I'll go over some the pros and cons of living with an electric lawn mower. I'll also talk about how using a different battery can make a huge difference in performance and run time.
4 years ago my Honda gazoline mower died and I went for a self propelled 46 cm Greenworks with original Greenworks 6 amp battery. I'm still amazed by this mower and to make sure I bought a second unit 2 years ago as I'm misstreating the original one, but at my big surprize the original one still accomplish it's hard duties tireless.... With one battery charge I can easily work around 45 minutes. I bought a second 6 amps battery cheap from China, it performs the same. I would never go back to a gazoline mower. I also bought Greenworks chainsaw and my gazoline Stihl chainsaw rest in peace...... I bought the trimer and blower, all excellent products for a cheap price.
I've never had that happen. First thing you do with a new gas engine, if it doesn't already have it, is to install a fuel cutoff valve for like 2 bucks. When putting it up for the winter, turn the valve off with the engine running and let it run dry. The carb will never have a problem.
Except for the joy of pulling out the gas lawnmower from a long winters sleep and having it start on the first pull - I love the smell of exhaust on a cool spring morning- it smells like ……. victory.
@@John_Ridleygas stabilizer my friend - gas stabilizer. All my engines and never a problem after a winter of engine storage. And if perchance a problem does come up - engine start fluid - never fails.
This mower has been really good. Cuts nice, is quiet , easy to use. My battery currently averages 25 minutes per use . 1/4 acre, haven’t needed a second yet. Oh and my green works blower gets in on the same charge for driveway
@@dirtytrucker08 the Ego mower battery gets better run time. At least 45 to 55 minutes. Mine was $449. I had a greenworks before and ended up getting the Ego. The downside about ego tho is if the battery dies...its $300 for a replacement.
I was using mine very hard on a swampy, mountain terrain. I beat it all to hell. It was still working until yesterday. The downside is it overheats pretty easy. I am hitting waist high grass in west Virginia. It does a amazing cut though. It ran very strong for 4 years. The battery seems to still be running strong. I have a weed eater and blower also. I was using the 60v. Most gas mowers only last 1-2 years and can't keep up. This mower did keep up. I really needed the slightly bigger one.
Thanks so much for the info, Chris. The tips about cooling the battery before and after charging were especially helpful and on the money. Without advice from someone like you, who seems knowledgeable, I would be leary of the aftermarket brands. I ordered one and, hopefully it'll help get the job done all at once.
Thank you, the kind words are very appreciated. I'm just a guy trying to show my experiences. Please let us know how you like or dislike your new battery.
Wow, I wish I had found this when you first made the video, but awesome. I love mine, but now I agree every single problem you mention has been part of owning one. Thank You for enlightening me.
Thanks for the review. I bought my gw mower used and both batteries last me close to almost 50 minutes. Given that it's 2 year old. Condition is good. I did upgrade to the off brand lasica 5ah. Thanks!
Have the same model, 2nd season of use now. Completely agree with the review, battery, usage/charging/ hard to get them out, the clogging.. but the convenience...
I just did my one year update, curious if you're having the same issue, minor nitpicky stuff ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k5LPC_Vwjhs.html Thank you for your feedback.
Thanks for this informative video. I did not know about the battery heating up (I never have to recharge before finishing mowing). What you say about mowing wet grass, etc, is true, but when conditions are normal, I can easily mow the front and back lawn of my regular-size suburban lot on the same charge. My (8yr-old) GW will run for more than an hour on its twin (original) batteries. Other advantages: you can just flip it on its side to clean the deck. Winter storage : I hang it on my garden-shed wall: no floor space taken. All good, with the cautions you have very well described.
Thank you for your feedback. And I totally agree, normal mowing conditions it seems to run a long time. We clean the underside of the deck after every mow, noticing the paint is starting to wear out and not clean up as easy this year. How's your paint on the under deck doing?
@@dirtytrucker08 I don't know. I'll check next time. I hadn't noticed that the bottom was painted in fact. I may try putting on car wax on one side and see if it makes a difference. But given that you can easily flip the machine over makes cleaning not a big deal. Btw, the other environment friendly aspect of those mowers is the noise factor. I'm not only a "tree-hugger", Chris, I'm also a "neighbour-hugger" (in the appropriate way, of course!) so I appreciate the fact that my neighbours two houses down can barely hear my mower.
I have two of the Lasica batteries and they are great. I had a warranty claim on one that wouldn't charge and they sent me a new one after I passed their test and didn't have to return the old one.
I just bought a 16" Greenworks mower and found this video. Thanks for the information, I'll see what I get for performance time. I know some batteries have the air holes on the sides for faster cooldown. If I have a problem, I'll look into a battery upgrade.
@@dirtytrucker08 First run on a fully charged battery and very tall foot tall grass. One hour with a 4.0AH Greenworks 40 volt lithium Max battery. I takes about an hour and a half to charge. The wife won't let me buy another battery. :(
@@falconashek8913 that's impressive with the tall grass, and as for another battery, what about a weedeater or blower or hedge trimmer, just a suggestion. Thanks for sharing
I have a pair of 120v cooling fans that are used for cooling CNC machines pendants that are connected with a pigtail to plug into a wall socket. I put a fan on either side of the battery. A hot battery is ready to charge in 5-10 minutes! Saves a LOT of downtime.
I have this same mower. I really like it for the most part. I love how easy it is to fold the "arms" down and then store the mower vertically...such a space saver. My main complaint is that it doesn't have much suction power when bagging. I have a tree that sheds a ton of tiny leaves which a gas powered mower is strong enough to suck up when bagging, but not this electric mower. Really wish it had a lot more suction power. I heard you can switch the blade to a higher suction blade (but that cuts down on battery time). Anybody ever tried a higher suction blade with one of these mowers, and if so, which blade did you get, and was it noticeably better than the stock blade?
hello, by the time you purchase all the extra batteries etc you are on 800 plus US$, you better off purchasing a good GAS mower with an electric start. and the way you go, thanks for your review.
tyvm i received a lawnmower from the mail and it didnt have a manual and so i did everything to figure where the battery goes. sheesh now i know from you that it is under the top panel. i put a whole lawnmower together without a manual and got stuck on a little thing like the battery yes the battery haha
I actually haven't had that short of a run time on my lawn mower. Although mine came with a 4 amp not a 2.5. Mine will last easy a hour and that's with me being lazy and leaving the lawn to the super hero known as tomorrow man. With a 4 amp if you hit a thick patch and I do since half my front yard is weeds, the lawnmower will spin blades faster. You can feel it crank itself up. Now I figured out that when it drains the battery and you slap it on the charger the charger reads it as full. It's because the battery is hot and the charger will not charge it until it cools. It's ok to leave it on the charger but you still gotta wait like 30 minutes for it to cool on average and it takes like 2 hours to charge to full. However if you pull it fresh off the charger it's still too warm to actually run the mower and it cuts off after a few minutes. So slap it on the charger, come back in like 2 hours and see if it's charged, if so take it off and go do whatever for another 20 or 30 minutes. I actually wanted to know if it could run a 2.5 battery and you answered that so thank you for that. Also it being able to stand vertically is great for space and let's the wet grass dry out. Give it a couple of days and the dead grass under it will flake off easy. Leaf blower the rest of it and it's good to go
yeah I’ve had a 5A battery for a few years now, it used to do both yards on one charge, then it became only one lawn then it got down to about 1/2 of it. This is the best battery I’ve had but I can’t find a replacement under $150, it was the commercial-grade greenworks when I bought it and my local store didn’t carry replacements. The only place I found did not ship to my country. Crazy… this will be my 4th cordless that lasted less than 5 years, mainly because replacement is cheaper than maintenance...
Spray the underside with silicone before you start and clean the underside of the deck when you are finished, I had a similar problem with my 60 V mower, I call Green Works and they resolved the issue, by the way these problems are caused by lack of any quality control regarding the battery problems and of course Green works was maybe shown one kind of battery and something else was delivered? Corporate American needs to have someone on site in China 24 seven to work with the factories, thus insuring consistent quality it can be done, I was there doing it as our CEO wanted to have better quality which increased the company's profits. Trying to eat 5,000 flawed products does not leave much room for desert???
fine I'll get a bigger battery. You sold me. I haven't even got the lawn mower yet but I'm mowing just under an acre. haha. I'll have two 6 ah batteries plus a 3 ah battery.
@@dirtytrucker08 yeah so much so that I tracked down the "equivalent" at half price and ordered that one also. Too bad I didn't know this ahead of time. I could have just got the "tool" and then then "equivalent" batteries. Well need a charger also. Anyway - thanks. I'm planning - I got the "clearance" motor that is not brushless - so we'll see if it lasts.
Greenworks 2 x 24V (48V) 21" Brushless Cordless Self-Propelled Lawn Mower, (4) 4.0Ah I found similar issues of batteries only lasting 7 minutes also but have 4 batteries, could not find the heavier battery on Amazon can you share a link for the battery and ty great video
i have a 20" greenworks lawn lower and i love it. i also got beefier batteries from amazon - biswayne brand. i have 5 batteries total. some are 5.0 ah & some are 6.0 ah. i also have the string trimmer & a leaf blower. i don't have the largest yard but it is sizeable. each battery lasts about an hour - on damp grass usually after a rain storm. i also set my mower deck to the 2nd notch. yours are only lasting 14 & 15 mins??? could that be the difference between the 20" model & 21" model ??? it takes me 3 batteries to cut the entire lawn, use the weed eater & leaf blower. if i haven't skipped a week between mow's and the grass is dry i can get by on 2 batteries. if you're going to shop for additional batteries be sure to do your research & google reviews. there is a huge price difference in the batteries & there seems to be a difference iin performance of brands.
Going with one of their dual blade mowers seems to help a lot with battery life. My guess is that spinning 2 smaller blades draws fewer amps and keeps the batteries cooler. If you have any in your area, I have found places that will "rebuild" the batteries once the cells go bad by replacing the 18650s with new ones. Cost me about 40 bucks Canadian.
The money you spent on all the extra battery’s , you can buy a lot of gas . And cut your yard in one session without having the cool battery’s and change them . Yes they have a long ways to go before I’ll ever even think about one.
I have a smaller GW mower and never experienced your problem with run times. All my batteries are 4amps and I do have the older style 40v that pre-dates the GMax series. I easily get 25 mins. My front lawn is 20x35ft and the back yard is 20x60ft. (aprox) I usually cut once a week. My problem is battery replacement. I wondering if I can just buy the GMax batteries and swap the insides.
I've not taken any of my batteries apart and can't really speak to that. My yard is just over 1/4 acre and run time is drastically higher under normal circumstances. I was using an extreme situation to show the benefits of larger amp hour batteries. Wet+tall grass cutting WAY to short. And back to your batteries, are they a totally different shell? I'd like to learn more.
@@dirtytrucker08 regarding the battery. It is almost identical in shape except the contacts. These are the first gen batteries. Greenworks does not support them anymore leaving me stranded. Thats where I thought I could just buy a gmax battery and do a transplant with the gen1 battery and I cant find generic batteries so I have no where to turn to except hacking. Here is a old link from amazon www.amazon.com/Greenworks-29662-40V-Lithium-Ion-Battery/dp/B00KJ65W8K
@@dirtytrucker08 ive seen those before and I dont think that would help with my case. Just curious have u taken a voltmeter to the contacts. I found that the contacts do not produce 40v (36v) but there are 2 contacts producing 20v and 18v respectively. So I assume they (GW) are combining the voltage for whatever reason. Interestingly if you put the probes on the + and - contacts the voltage is 0.
Wow I just bought a Greenworks 40V for my daughter. It came with 2 4.0 AH usb batteries. So if I hearing you right I can use a 5 amp battery? Where can I get them? Thanks great video by the way!
Hi Chris, Thanks for the great vid. If you could reiterate for me if you would, so how many minutes would you say you will get out of that mower with the stock battery?
I have one and I haven’t been able to use it yet. I had to cut a charger and then a battery and it didn’t work. 🤷🏻♀️ Do you have a link to that bigger battery?
I am looking to buy a Greenworks 40V 17" (2-In-1) 4.0 Ah Push Lawn Mower. I wonder if the Lacica 5.0Ah battery you have is worth the step-up against the 4.0Ah one. Also, it would be great if you can post the Lacica 5.0Ah battery Amazon link.
A simple search on Amazon brings up the batteries for you, and my opinion is bigger is better on the batteries, extra batteries is always a good thing. Let me know how you like the 2n1.
Hi Chris, your video was a great help. I have probably watched 45 videos on the greenworks lawn mower. I am having trouble with the mower starting. I don't know how to remove the cover from the battery holder, do I take the blade off and go at it from underneath? Also, have you taken the box apart where the lockout switch is located? I was taking mine apart to see if the breaker had a problem, but when I took the screws out of the box, the lid flew off and I was not able to see how everything went together. Have you done this, and if so can you give me some tips? Thanks, Vicki
I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, please come to the dirtytrucker08 Facebook page and message me there, hopefully we can get you the answers you need on a faster timeline than here. Possibly I'll make a video if I'm able to help you so others having the same issue can follow along.
I just searched “40v green works battery” on Amazon, there seems to be more style options out now, but the ones like you’ll need were in the selection.
Your mower says 21 inch on the side. I noticed on the website i bought my mower off the 21 inch model was being sold with a 6ah battery you might be using the wrong size battery for that particular mower.
Not to my knowledge, I can say from reading the comments the smaller mowers have good runtime with the 4 ah battery. I'd be interested in trying out some of the 80V tools but mine all still work
Oh hell no. 14 minutes wtf. It takes me an hour to finish my dad’s front lawn and backyard with gas powered this ain’t gonna cut it. Shame I really wanted an electric mower but ah well. New gas powered it is
There are down sides for sure, the examples I gave were in worst case. Tall wet grass cut way too short. But it's not as easy as filling a gas tank for sure. I've gotten used to mowing on a more regular schedule so it's never too tall and that helps a lot, hope you found the video helpful though
@@dirtytrucker08 Yeah it is always extreme. I visit my dad maybe once a month or every other month and all the grass is a foot tall sometimes even growing as tall as me with heavy rain. Def helped because I woulda been pissed if I bought it and it died on me 14 minutes later lol
😂🤣👍 No doubt electric still has a ways to go to hang with gas. but seriously how much of an inconvenience could a little gas push mower be in the suburbs with a postage stamp size lot? throw some “Non-ethanol” fuel in a 5 gallon can with some fuel stabilizer and I doubt you would need go to the gas station more than once a year. as long as you buy non-ethanol then add fuel stabilizer in with the fuel there will never be a problem with the carburetor. a gas mower won’t care within reason how tall, wet the grass is or how long you take to cut It just gets it done. if you spend the extra money and buy the good fuel injected or EFI lawn equipment The ethanol induced carburetor problem Will be eliminated.
You wanna know why I buy 60v Greenworks, hate to keep spend on gas to keep me drive car to station every 5.6 mile to fill can then return so that make 11.2 mile, mostly it drain my car and mower fuel for extra cost too, it suck so I can spend on favourite car gas only. Secondly it can storage upright so no more fuzz in garage space, third it quite so wont disturbed from neighbours and in my music headset, happy music in my ear. *EDIT*: Change my misspelling and add bit more clear reason. Thank for pin, will post on channel about my 6 month old greenworks 60V mower push soon. (or very later)
I haven't focused on the warranty of any of it to be honest. I can say we're still using them and they still perform like new for us. Thank you for your feedback.
Just got the 19inch 40v Greenworks and yeah... the batteries are garbage. First battery lasted for little more than 30 minutes, second battery was not even close. Saw a couple of videos, open up the case and everything looks in place. This should not be happening on a product you just bought. Would not recommend.
Build it cheap and sell high . Got to cut costs somewhere . Why not give them a cheap p.o.s. batter . Want a real battery go to a battery technition and have them build you a real battery that meats your needs . Need a chandler use fishing líne
Very nicely done br I feel am your fan for your video br but battery lasted for 7 to 8 minutes which is awful so why these guys talking that battery will last 25 to 30 or 35 min?
During normal mowing they do, cutting very wet tall grass to a very low level is hard on any mower, I was using an extreme situation to show how much better the bigger batteries are.
@@dirtytrucker08 I was planning to buy very first one for my self who does not have much knowledge about lawn mower I dont like the gas mower but your true feed back safed me from buying the electric mower thanks again🤝
This model isn’t, but I’ll argue it’s light enough you don’t need it. I’m sure there are others where it would be beneficial but this one is very light weight feeling for sure.
Is that an american mower? Cause the ones up in canada come with 4ah batteries and will last almost an hour cutting 1ft tall grass. Using the 40v digipro. The replacement batteries are only 2ah tho:(
I just bought mine yesterday I charged the battery it turn green but now the lawnmower won't stay on? I push it a couple of inches and it cuts off? I did buy the floor model?
I've found false charge indication sometimes if the battery is warm. It sounds like what the mower does when the battery is dead. So I'd try letting the battery cool, then put it back on the charger. Hopefully this helps.
An ampere is a measure of electrical current. In a tool, it measures how much electricity the wires and motor can handle and bring to the work. However, it is not a measure of power or force. For that, you need volts. What are Volts? Volts are a measure of force. It’s how much force that electric current actually brings to the work at hand.
Ah, but do you have to wear ear-protection? Additionally, "The air pollution from cutting grass for an hour with a gasoline-powered lawn mower is about the same as that from a 100-mile automobile ride, according to a new study from Sweden, which recommends using catalytic converters on mowers." So, if you went and fitted a superior quality exhaust muffler with a catalytic converter . . . hmmm? Still, an electric mower powered-up inside an enclosed space would not poison the confined air inside that space. ... I have ONE petrol-powered mower and TWO battery models- the SOLE reason that I'm not using the cheaper electric is because I've misplaced (LOST) the plastic key for that one! The other one is an early-model Ego. I have not used the petrol mower for THREE years, or so. I DO bring home gasoline- 20 - 25lt a time with the Burgman Exec, but THAT is for the two 42" Ride-On mowers.
Your batteries only last 4 or 5 minutes? I'm looking at getting one of these and they claim the battery runs for about an hour. That is quite a discrepancy in time from your experience.
This video was showing the absolute worst case, very tall grass that's wet, and cutting it way too low. I wanted to do this to show the difference in batteries in a time frame that wouldn't take an entire day to film. During normal mowing cycles and expected cut height with dry grass, not rain soaked, you'll experience drastically longer run times. I don't think an hour, but 30 minutes per battery is perfectly reasonable. I'd still recommend the higher Amp Hour batteries though. Seems like a better cost to use ratio, IMO.
Ron: Greenworks does NOT advertise a runtime on the self propelled mower. I suspect he has a self propelled version, and that you saw that number on a push model.
@@dirtytrucker08 ohhh, so the advertised estimates ARE way out. I have just under a 1/2 acre of actual grassed area... is this the wrong tool for the job? any idea of how many battery I would need?
This must be a shit GW mowers, but this has not been my experience. I highly recommend the 20" dual blade mulching 40V GW, I have 2 4.0 AMP batteries, which can both be installed at the same time, I get ~60+ minutes depending on the wetness of the grass. I have no problem completing my 1/4 acre and usually have some life left to start with the trimmer.
@@n.g6524 how often are you mowing? Are you letting the batteries cool before changing, and cool before using? What size batteries are you using? Is that grass dry or moist?
Dude just get 5 sheep 🐑 keep in the garage of your fancy neighborhood and just let them out every day to eat the grass in your yard it cost you little to nothing that’s living off the grid just a little 😡🤨🧐
@@Giggity341 yes, that's more typical, I was showing worst case scenario to show the benefits of the larger battery. Glad you're getting along well with yours.
It moves the emissions from continuously to the beginning yes. It's my understanding that an electric car on average takes between 50 and 80 thousand miles before it is actually cleaner than a typical gasoline car. I wonder how many acres of grass I'd need to mow before this is the cleaner option.
I tested my first year with my ryobi mower. Now on 3rd year. I used just over a 1/2 gallon of gas to mow with gasoline engine. I tested my battery with what my electric company was charging per kwh with watt meter and was paying right at 32 cents to charge a 5 amp battery from 1 bar to 4. I can cut my lawn 1 1/2 times with full charge. That is if I am mowing on regular basis. Battery mowers are getting better every new release and cheaper. Solar charging is increasing yearly also. I don't think anyone needs to be a tree hugger to appreciate or look forward towards technology.
