video-pioneers, give me a break! 5 years before "ivanxtc" the Dogma movement was founded. 2 years before "ivanxtc", The Celebration triumphed in Cannes...
Glauber Rocha was doing films with a camera in the hand and an idea on the head 35 years before the Dogma movement was invented. But he wasn't European or American so people know only about Dogma. They need to expand their horizons. As for Brian Rose, I watched his four Tolstoy films again a few weeks ago and was even more impressed than I was the first time. Those films are short of a miracle as far as I am concerned. Funny enough, I couldn't finish watching his Hollywood mainstream "Immortal Beloved" because it was rubbish. And Dogma was in a way pretty much of a farce. They didn't have the money, they didn't have the gear, they didn't have the knowledge so invented Dogma as a "new " language. Von Triers denied every single guideline of the Dogma as soon as he had the money. "Dogville' is the exact opposite of every thing preached by the Dogma. Every single thing.