@@tristanplays7377 They definitely apply to UK and Chinese 8-ball and 10-ball. For more info and advice for 9-ball, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/9-ball/
Love this video. Hearing the logic for why you chose particular balls and then seeing the shooting strategy (spins, speeds, etc) that you use to get position is fantastic. Your consistent execution helps me a lot because when my cue ball goes wrong, I always question whether it was my shooting strategy or if it was my less consistent stroke that threw it off, so this helps reinforce the strategies that should work as I continue to try improve my execution.
Hey Dr. Dave! Thanks again for all of the free lessons. My brother and I have benefited tremendously from your videos! I have one piece of constructive criticism, though. In this video you suggest pausing to analyze the table and compare, but, in several of the examples, you have lines drawn and explanations going before the balls even stop moving. The lesson is great, but it's hard to be truly objective with your influence. I'm probably just nit-picking. I do appreciate the videos, and get excited every Monday to see what's next!
Lil' Chris Thank you as always. I impressed that you watched the whole thing! I suspect most people won’t have the patience. I hope people like this video because, as I am sure you can relate to, this one took a lot of time and work.
@@DrDaveBilliards You are correct! I personally understand the time and effort it took record 20 racks of runouts. It's worth it so long as the viewers are able to grasp the concept being taught.
What was your break and run percentage? How many attempts did it take to get the 17 break and runs? I didn't notice a clock rapidly spinning in the background, no change of clothes, you didn't have a full length beard by rack 20... Nice work Dave.
Unfortunately, I didn't keep stats. I would guess that my break&run percentage was about 20-30%. I filmed in two sessions (about 3-4 hours each) over two days. It helped that I had the racking and break working well.
@@DrDaveBilliards when you are applying SAWS, when you apply BHE you are rotating the body with the cue. Where do the eyes look when applying BHE? Down the shaft? Still at the object ball contact point? I also noticed once you have adjusted for BHE/FHE you don't take any practice strokes, correct? Personal preference or best practice? That was missing from SAWS video.
@@MJ18883 Everything (body, head, eyes, cue) moves together as a unit with BHE. I think it is best to focus on the CB during the pivots to ensure you get the exact tip contact point (and amount of spin) you want. Then focus back at the OB after the pivots. I generally like to take warm-up strokes after the pivots to make sure I will keep the cue along this new line during the final stroke (and to judge the backstroke length I want to achieve the desired shot speed), but this is personal preference.
Most shot are easy if you have good cue ball control. Be sure to work on that also. If you want some help, see the videos and other info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-ball-control/ Enjoy!
Ah... 3 Years ago I started my journey in pool. This was one of the first videos I ever watched on pool and I just kept thinking "Wow he can make anything from anywhere on the table!" I've strived to gain the same confidence and calm demeanor on the table as you and it's starting to pay off. First solo tournament I've entered in APA as a SL5 last weekend and I'm going to regionals in October now. You are so vivid and clear when explaining things in your videos, I've seen ALL of the pool videos you've posted and I can't get enough. I said this was one of the first, it's also one of my favorites to come back to and look at potential shots you didn't mention and go try them out on my table in the garage, you know, get creative with outs. Anyways, great videos man, love em, thank you for quality content and always AIMING TO SWERVE!
Thank you for the "success story" and kind comments. The things that help most with accurate and consistent aiming are covered here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/aiming/dam/#advice It's DAM easy when you do everything right. :) Have you really watched ALL of my videos? I already have 600+ posted. If you want to see more, go here: www.youtube.com/@DrDaveBilliards/videos And a good way to find info and videos (from me and others) on any topic of interest is to start here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/ Continued good luck with your game!
Let's just say I watch a LOT of RU-vid and when I subscribe to someone I go and check out EVERYTHING they have. I guarantee I've seen at least 550 of your videos, looking now down the list of your videos there's a red line on almost every video all the way down to "HSV B.30 - cut-induced and sin-induced throw and spin", everything past that I haven't seen (BUT I WILL NOW). I appreciate your help always! When a night of APA or BCA is over and I had a tough situation, I'm always like "There was that one video by Dr Dave... Let me find it.." and I go digging for a certain ticky explanation or caram angle explanation. I think one of the biggest thing that helps is just shooting ball to pocket and not worrying about shape TOO much, it'll come, but first you gotta make the ball your shooting at. As always, we aim to swerve! @@DrDaveBilliards
My shot and pattern choices and recommendations aren't always best for all players. Regardless, I'm glad you like my stuff, and good luck with your game!
I disagreed with all of our choices (not really) but then I run tables pretty infrequently, so that would kinda makes sense. :-) Good vid, it NEVER hurts to see it again and again. Eventually it might just seep in. Keep 'em comin' sir!
Great video! I watched them all in one sitting, rewinding a lot to go back and look at your methodology. I'll get lots of good from this video. You definitely prefer shooting stripes. lol I'm working on using the english with the highest chance of success. I've almost completely stopped using draw for now. I need to spend some time perfecting the pace. So, you're okay with leaving the cue ball that close to the rail that often because the break you're using? You believe that break has the highest rate of success? And you adjust using top or bottom based on the table? And if you hit it harder wouldn't the cue come off of the rail leaving you in the middle of the table? I appreciate your time and effort.
I'm glad you found the video helpful. I don't like leaving the CB so close to the rail, but backspin was required to pocket the 2nd-row balls on this table. More speed would be better, assuming I could maintain accuracy. FYI, a lot more 8-ball break advice can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/
I would shoot 11 first top soft but hard enough to pop off the rail then id slow roll the closest to the middle pocket leaving a shot on your first attempt shoot that either top with left or bottom with right set up for 9 then run the rest out either way 8 ball in either corner pocket
This is a lovely watch to accompany my dinner before heading out for a pool tournament. I always joke that I am a pool shooter, not a pool player, but after watching this, I think I will bring a different game to the tourney.
@@DrDaveBilliards Watched more videos from you today and saw some triple shadows when using your cue to calculate angles... :o ;) LED is the way to go yes and it is cheap as well ;)
If you're playing APA, some of your examples won't work because you're stuck with whatever set of balls you make on the break, unless you make one or more of each. In rack 1, you pocket the 14 on the break and choose to play stripes, but in rack 2 you pocket the two ball on the break and still choose to shoot stripes. Maybe you didn't realize you pocketed the 2, but in match play, you can be sure there will be a whole host of people watching and pointing out pocketed balls.
@@M0J0HAND I follow the WPA “official rules of pool” in my videos. The APA does many things differently. See: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/rule-differences
@DrDaveBilliards, if there's a cluster that's 1 of my balls and 1 of my opponent's, and there's no good key ball to break it, should I save it for last and let my opponent try to break it? Or Should I try to break it early on, even if the key ball is far?
paused at 3:47 id approach the 13 i think i cant tell looking at vid left centre pocket followed to the 14 then the 9 back to the 15 to the 10 12 with leaving 8 ball open for 3 pockets to choose from
I really enjoy your videos. You mentioned SAWS as a aiming tool. Where might I get information to learn about SAWS to improve my aiming? I just started playing again at 81 and have difficulty aiming even when I get the angle. I am sure I don’t always hit the cue ball in the center. Any information you can give me will be appreciated. Do you have a video on developing a sound stroke?
For help with aiming, see my recent aiming video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-avJ6_l-pHaY.html For SAWS info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/ For stroke help, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stroke/technique/
Great content. Only disagreed with one thing..."always take care of problems as early as possible" couldn't disagree more. I personally take care of problems when problems need taken care of. My problem is usually a result of a problem for my opponent also n I don't play to win, I play not to lose. Different perspective that's all
Fair enough. The other way to say it is “Always solve a problems at the right time” (which might be different for different people in different situations).
Love your videos Dr. Dave. I am wondering about the 8-ball break, because some pro pool players like SVB and some others likes to break from the side (not the 2nd ball break though) rather than from the center. Is there any advantage by placing the cue ball to break from the side instead of the center because I tried it a few times and it's really difficult to get a good spead when breaking from the side.
They do that to attempt to pocket the 1 in the side. For more info and examples, see near the bottom of the page here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/
Dave I love yah but you are a GREAT shot maker...EASY PEASE!!..Great racks to. Out of 20 racks I would only win half the games..I think my problem is my stroke👍
For 3:44 , you played the (bottom left) 10, but if you accidentally kiss the 8 to be frozen onto the purple 12, or if you further tie up the 13, wouldn't it be really bad? I'd go for the red 11 middle, then the 10, then the 9, then the 12 into top left corner. If this goes well I can go for the 13, or use the middle pocket hanger to readjust position. But then again, I can hardly run a rack so what am I talking about.
You really love that 8 ball into the side pocket for your run out finishes huh? Haha nice show of skill, expansion of knowledge, and tutoring on your behalf of things tho! That side pocket shot has ALWAYS been tricky for me but you smack it into the heart everytime lol!
It depends on where the 8 is and where the key ball before the 8 is, and how much CB motion is required to get position for the corner instead (and whether or not there are risks to doing so).
26:07 ..... Welcome to MY freakin' world ! lol I had not played in 20 years and just decided to start up again. I used to be a fair player. Nothing great, but nothing to be ashamed of either. Biggest thing now is I'm constantly rattling pockets. I decided it isn't my fault, it has to be the pockets got smaller over the years, lol.
@DrDaveBilliards Watching this, around 19:43, Wouldn't Rack 14 technically not be a break and run, as you foul by slightly moving the 1 ball with the bridge or cue? kinda hard to tell by camera angle which hit the 1, but the 1 ball clearly does move.
For Rack 8 I saw pocketing the adjacent 14 immediately with slight draw to bring it back out to only then shoot the 9 leaving QB in the corner instead. With the 14 gone the whole right side is clear to play the 13 up to far corner with follow on the QB to leave near the top rail with shape on the 15. Should have a good play off the top and/or side rail to the center to play the 11 into the side, and you can close with the 12 and 8 the same way you did. Positioning seems a bit simpler than your runout especially not having to guide the ball through the solids to move from 13 to 12 with the potential to get hooked if you hit too slow (or you come back too much and hit the 1). Heck if the 11 can play to the corner around the 12 (hard to tell from this angle) then you could pretty much hit all stop shots except the follow up the right side on the 13.
Hi Dave, Love the content. It would have been nice to see you go at a few racks with more clusters and a couple of opening shots were probably too tough to take in a serious game, so would be nice to see you take the easier opening ball and tougher runout. Great video though, thanks
Agreed. It might have been more instructive to present tougher runouts. FYI, I have a lot more runout videos in the following playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLH9d4KFY28XvSPUa4VAKp47822aPYFYgx Check them out.
Do Dr Dave videos use the same sound effect as the old Mika Immonen videos I had a million years ago? There’s something familiar about the sound during transitions and that’s what’s coming to mind.
Hey Dr. Dave, great video. Is there any particular reason you racked two solids behind the eight ball on every rack? Seems a bit patern-y and you ran out stripes most of the time. I thought you had to have a stripe and a solid behind the eight ball.
The only 8-ball rack requirements are that the 8 be in the center and the corner balls be different (solid and stripe). If you want to see real 8-ball pattern racking, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/
I think one of my biggest problems is picking the correct pattern or ball to get started with, I've got the ability to run the rack....but it seems majority of the time I pick the wrong ball or group to start with......
Make sure you walk around the table and think ahead with the balls that you think are good starters before you begin. FYI, VEEB-I has lots of good advice on how to choose a starting ball, how to choose key balls, and how to plan patterns: drdavebilliards.com/videos/8-ball/disc-i/
i know pool can be a complicated game when you get to shape and banks and such but i never put thought into breaks that there can be sweet spots this is interesting to say the least im going to try this break spot here it seems ot work i break on the side going for power more but that smy inexperienc ei guess..more good tips here thanks ..theres a few shots im looking forwar to trying form Daves videos ehre hes pretty good. i can sit at a pool hall and watch guys like this play all day its amazing some of the shots they make or just take lessons you cna leanr so much
FYI, more 8-ball break options and advice can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/ Although, it sounds like your game could benefit more from the fundamentals stuff here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/ Enjoy!
24:37 Why did you not kick the 14 instead? It looks like the CB would have rolled forward off the short rail for the straight shot on the 11. Stop shot on the 11 and 8 ball in the bottom left corner.
That probably would have been a better choice, but I was only a millimeter from getting out with my shot at the 11. Regardless, both shots (kicking at the 11 or 14, attempting to pocket the ball) is low percentage.
At 8:39 especially on longer tables I would have rather dealt with the two problem solids then attempt a cross table combo I would have but the two in the side and zig zagged across the table but that's why you're the pro and im clearly not 😅😅
OK I picked up a couple cue sticks at garage sale and I found a bar where tables are free from 9:30 to 6:00so here I am trying to learn pool at age 69 and your stance is different from other videos show one foot back other forward does it really make that big of a difference I like your stance
You moved the one when shooting 13 on rack 14 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eGAEfE71WPc.html Otherwise great content. All my shot choices were much worse when played out in thought if not the same
Good eye. Several people have pointed it out. I bumped it with my bridge hand by accident before the shot. Luckily, I was playing under "CB Fouls Only" rules. :)
I have lots of good videos for banking here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/kicks-and-banks/ If you only want one, I would suggest: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U5Exnt3WDXA.html Enjoy!
this should be called Dr. Dave's Beast Mode. thanks for sharing and teaching again! for what it's worth, i thought you should be on the pool's power 15 list for your contributions to the game
FYI, I already have lots of 9-ball and 10-ball strategy and runout videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/strategy/9-ball/ billiards.colostate.edu/faq/drill/ppc/ Check them out.
The 90-degree and 30-degree rules are also very useful (and more reliable) for this when applicable. For more info, see the "CB Control ... Everything You Need to Know" video and other videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/cue-ball-control/
Hey Dave! Whats the length of your table? I know 7ft is a bar box, and its too small to play with, plus if i buy i new one, i need to get used to the new size! Its tough to get used with the new dimensions! Can you make a video for that! Thanks!
The table in this video is 9' (standard "regulation" size). Concerning how to adjust to a larger table, CB control is easier because obstacles are further apart. Also, many shots are longer, which takes more care and skill with aiming. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/strategy/bar-box/
It was because I was racking and breaking the same way every time. I also prefer the stripes when solids are not clearly better. The stripes have more contrast with the cloth and have more visualize features to key on during aiming.
@@DrDaveBilliards No worries man.. I usually put ten 8Balls to practice the shot on the last ball or ten 9 balls lol. Don't have that much 10 balls atm xD
Dr. Dave. I have a question about pocketing the 8 ball on the break. Are there didfwrent set of rules per different leagues or international bodies or is there a universally accepted rule. Because on the US 8 ball site I read that potting the 8 ball on the break, provided there is no foul/scratch, you win the game. On the other hand, on other sites I read you continue your turn at the table, having the option to respot the black or re-rack. Which is it?
Under the WPA “official rules of pool,” you have the option to spot or re-break. For more info, see the links and other info here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
Hi dr Dave, I know games like virtual pool 4 aren't perfect simulators, but even in the mode where I can change power spin and position and make all the variables standard, I cannot get the two second row balls to get anywhere close to the centre holes. They always end up too short no matter the position. I've also found this to be the case when I play in real life. Not sure what's going on
In real life, you can make the 2nd-row balls go higher with backspin on the CB. For more info and advice, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/8-ball/
Some great run outs. Enjoyed watching these- gonna try method of dealing with the problem balls earlier in next few sessions. Couple things 19:45 rack 14 looked like a foul. 17:20 rack 12 on the 4 ball could you have played it to take the black in the bottom right of the screen. As this was the shot i was looking at however it could be harder to see the exact angle on video or could it be there is a reason not to do that?
The OB bump at 19:45 would be a foul if playing under "All Ball Fouls" rules. At 17:20, I think the 8 went in both corners, but I had too much angle on the 4, so I decided to play for the side or upper corner just to limit CB motion and the chance for bumping into something.
That 11 ball on 19th rack. I think there was some chalk maybe a piece of hair holding that up! Very unfortunate! I was willing it to drop from up in Canada 😄 🤣
I was also a little surprised and shocked (in addition to being disappointed) it didn't go in. Thanks for watching. I'm impressed you made it all the way to Rack 19! I doubt most people will.
@@DrDaveBilliards lol. I like to watch and learn how others shoot as well as to see what i would do differently! Great video! I enjoyed the last 2 racks to show ppl you cant always be perfect :p Until next time!
Dave, your point about picking best option - high or low balls - is well received. However, APA rules only allow for choice if one of each drops on the break. Might be good to determine how many Subscribers play APA, and do a video from that standpoint. Love your channel and often refer my students. Thanks
All my videos are based on the WPA "official rules of pool." I wish leagues systems like the APA didn't make up their own rules, and I wish all the league systems (CSI, BCAPL, VNEA, APA) could at least use the same rules. This causes confusion. If you or others are interested, I have a summary of pool league rule differences here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/rule-differences
@@DrDaveBilliards I sooo agree with you here Dr. D. I've been saying this for years. I wish they would just stick to one set of rules, unless it is exhibition play or creation of a different discipline altogether.
@@DrDaveBilliards yezzir lol! I'm the president of the pool governing body in Barbados, CueSport Barbados... Would to have a chat sometime. I've always admired your work, from your first few videos on your Colorado State Uni website and it has only be gotten better over the years gone by.
Dr. Dave, your knowledge on this sport is impeccable. However, your technique has one major flaw: your shoulder alignment with the cue. This will pose a physical limitation on how accurate you can be.
Thank you for the concern, but I disagree per the info in the "Is it important that your upper arm and shoulder be in the plane of the cue and your forearm?" section here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/advice/
@@DrDaveBilliards thank you for your reply! I will give this link a detailed read. I was trained in snooker and was instructed to get the arm, cue and shoulder coplanar vertically, and that’s what nearly all snooker pros do, which led me to believe this is necessary.
@@DrDaveBilliards I agree it’s not critical. However I also believe perfect alignment can only help not hurt… so I try to do it. Some people may have slightly different anatomy or mobility that prevents them from getting a perfect alignment but I think if they can they should.
I hope you have resolved that situation. :) You might need to do some catch-up "homework" by watching missed videos on my channel. I have over 400 now! I'm glad you like my stuff. Good luck with your game!
I have a question for you Dave if you could possibly answer it for me I'd appreciate it. I've been using the 3 inch predator extension on my predator cue I really enjoy the feel of the added weight and length. Do you think it's foolish to use an extension on the back of your cue? Would it make sense to just match the weight to around 21 and not use the extension at all? I can't get used to the light feel of 19oz feels way less stable to me. This may all be subjective but just looking for feedback and you would be the guy with the knowledge. Thanks.
Short answer: Do whatever works best for you. Long answer: See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/weight/ and: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/balance/ and: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/length/ Enjoy!
Sorry, this is a total rookie question. On rack 2 you sunk a solid off the break but ran out the bigs. Did I miss something, or is it just, that was the better run out off the break? Thanks
@@DrDaveBilliards ohh that’s awesome. Sorry, as I said, rookie alert 😂. If you sink a ball on the break do you get a second shot when playing an opponent or then does that mean you still bass it over? Thank you so much for quick reply 👍
@@MrKaxid Yes. If you pocket a ball on the break, you get to shoot again. But the table is open (i.e., you can choose stripes or solid) until somebody pockets a called ball after the break. If you want to learn more about pool rules, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
@DrDaveBilliards Hi, Dr. Dave. I would like to know whether the shot at 24:54 was a foul since it seemed like the 11 didn't hit a cushion. Also, I have seen some other RU-vidrs using GoPro action cameras, so would you like to use that approach instead for your future videos? Thanks for providing the wonderful content.
The 24:54 shot was a foul, but the main point was that I missed, failing to run-out. Any good player will run the solids, especially with BIH. Concerning using a head-mount GoPro, the images do look cool, but I honestly don't think they really add enough instructional value (beyond my normal camera views and spin diagrams) to justify the extra effort (especially in editing) and inconvenience/discomfort (having to wear it). I'll probably try it some day, but I am honestly not that excited about it.
Love your videos and have learned so much from you over the last few years! Thanks! I noticed you maintain a very level cue on the break. I think you covered this at one point but what about the pros that tend to "pop the cue ball" off the break like Shane? Is this just a higher speed break where the bounce is more exaggerated or just a more elevated bridge? Is it more of a 10 ball thing? And also what positive/negative effects come from "popping" the cue ball vs a level cue on the break? Sorry for million questions
Most of your questions are answered here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/ball-hop/ I wasn’t up really using a big power break in this video. The main purpose for the cue elevation is to give room for the cue to drop with elbow drop and shoulder motion. At contact with the CB, the cue is usually fairly level.
Many thanks Dave! Been studying your videos , my brother n me, and we’ve gotten good enough to where we can hold our own at the “roll ‘em up, roll ‘em in”, it’s just a real old pool hall here in our town that’s been around for ever but people know about and come from way off just to shoot in these tournimonts. Still got the old oak wood floors that creak when you walk, smells like tobacco and spilled beer, not too many ladies but money can made if a man can shot good stick. Thanks again buddy.
On rack 16 for your Key ball shot to get on the 8 instead of drawing would it have been equally as good to follow and play for the wider window? Just curious trying to better myself.
4:33 Would you suggest this first ball for a beginner you were teaching? You said it is a tough ball, is it suitable even for a beginner, considering you are an elite pool player!
I am far from elite. Regardless, I would definitely not recommend that shot to a "beginner." Even I almost missed it (and would have on a table with tighter pockets). I didn't compensate enough for cut-induced throw (CIT), which is maximum with a stun shot like this.
