Dr.G Raises Issues Against Madkhalis | Shamsi | Speakers Corner 4/20/2019 

Disgraceful man he said "your" sister then changed it to "any" sister after he saw shamsi reaction.... little coward, respect to shamsi for keeping his cool BIG respect!

@@aqeelhassan5830 Dr G would fight for your sisters safety, unlike Shamsi.

Android phone, even if what you say is true (i not agreeing nor disagreeing with anything as i dont have enough knowledge). what he said about shamsi sister is still dishusting and he quickly changed it to "any" sister when confronted on it. Just found that really disgusting n i think guy knew he was wrong. but thats just my opinion. I dont know dr G so maybe it was out of character people make mistakes. Love to all 💚

Shamsi same guy who calls other Muslim dogs. He can do one.

@@OriginalAndroidPhone Dr. G can't stop shaving his beard. How can you trust a man to defend your sister when he can't even follow a Sunnah?

They seem to be missing the bolded part. Not sure how when it's from my experience one of the main points that are mentioned when talking about this topic.

"except when he is ordered to do a sinful thing" so bombarding Muslims in Yemen, sinai, Libya is okay? Madkhalis are such a joke because they twist the evidences even though it is proof against them.

the question is if you see the ruler doing sinful things , what are you gonna do , like rape your mum or other female relatives ?

@@spark05100 Check 01:28 onwards to see what the question, he says something like" if the wali Al amr told you to kill some one you will kill him" also 01:50 and 02:00.

Does this hadith apply to kings or only caliphs

I love this lol

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We're not certain of it.

if you know you know love how shamsi ended the video your talking about lol🤣😂

Firstly I said 15 minutes and secondly I did not "fail"...he keeps on running away. He will not last 15 minutes.

Who do you work for? Israel? You are a disgrace and may Allah disgrace you more in this life or guide you, ameen.

@@greenhomestead9895 No but I have a better question for you: Why do you get to enjoy world class healthcare, a good education and prosperity but wish to deny millions of Arabs that freedom? Why do you think you are better than them? The people revolted in 2011 (peacefully) but were violently killed with support from your madkahli role models.

Dr G Why do you care more about social injustice than Islaam? Why are you not bringing forward proof from Quran and Sunnah. Surely if we are all deviated and have said we will take firm proof, then shouldn't you care more about helping guide your brothers and sisters if you truly believe the truth is with you? No more emotional talk. Bring the proof or go home and sort out whatever problems you have with sunnah. Because you don't have a problem with Shaykh Rabee or Shamsi really, your issue is with the sunnah, and that is a personal matter you should gain knowledge on so you can understand. This would be more beneficial for you and others, rather than accusing your brothers without proof. It deeply affects your credibility.

@@BlueSkyblueseagreenland Habibi I am more than happy to bring proofs from quran, sunnah and salaf but shamsi refuses to have a grownup discussion without running away...so all we have is this confrontation.

@Internet Contrarian your not even a Muslim so what benefit is there in "refuting" yours claims other than playing some stupid game with you.

@Internet Contrarian you know I just looked at your "sources" just now to see what your point is and I laughed. I have tareekh tabari and funny thing is your quoted volume "16" when it only has 11 all together haha you complete idiot, and if you quoting from the English version just shows me you are a even bigger fool because you should have said " history of tabari" translated by so and so and not pretend you are the source of the translation. Also it is well known when you quote books of tafsir when you try to make a point from a narration then you have to bring the quote of the hadeeth, because books of tafsir are not books of hadeeth. So clean up on your sourcing before you want to be taken seriously. Lastly, if your not even a Muslim why are you concerned who we take our knowledge from, surely you believe it all to be lies, unless you have some strange obsession to try debate Muslims on things you think you have points on.

@Internet Contrarian Muawiyah also disobeyed Ali.

@Internet Contrarian please read this www.ambitiousaboutautism.org.uk/understanding-autism/behaviour/obsessions-and-special-interests I no I'm not trying to be rude but I can see these signs in you mate.

@Internet Contrarian lol you don't even understand what I criticised you for. I'l will simple it for you. When Muslim bring proof has to be Qur'an or hadeeth, not a tafsir narration that's chain of narration is unknown. Get it now? You gave one which is in Bukhari, but first one is missing. Thanks

Majnoon by the way means crazy.

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It is Allah who guides.

@F.A F.A of course. It was a response to the original comment. We do not convert anyone, it is only Allah that converts people.

@Eddie Austin I'm with Shamsi. Narrated Ibn `Umar: The 'Prophet said, "It is obligatory for one to listen to and obey (the ruler's orders) unless these orders involve one disobedience (to Allah); but if an act of disobedience (to Allah) is imposed, he should not listen to or obey it."

@Eddie Austin people could understand me wrong I add Shamsi is right.

@Eddie Austin Wa Eyaak brother.

@@adelbenmsioud5983 Yeah it seems really obvious to anyone with any wit about them that this ruling is open to abuse , a ruler can move a category of people into a group where it would be halal to attack them and then use this ruling as justification for commanding others to do just that.

Hadith on Corrupt Rulers Quran & Hadith The Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) said: "There will be after me leaders, whoever enters to visit them, believes them in their lies and helps them in their oppression is not from me and I am not from him, and he will not be admitted into the Hawd. Whoever does not enter to visit them, does not help them in their oppression and does not believe their lies is from me and I am from him and such a person will be admitted into the Hawd." (In the Sunan, Vol 8, Page 165, Tirmidhi, An Nasai & Al Hakeem)

Dr G wallah your don bro respect for that ive all ways wanted someone to speak about theses talafis

If that really is you then I swear by Allah you are an ignoramus. Aboulte ignoramus. "I use to memorise the books of Muhammed Abdulwahab"... When told to bring one quote you can't say anything. Rabi Al-Madkhali, Rabi Al-Madkhali!!! You haven't even done for Islam what our brother Shamsi has done for Islam and you want to speak about Shaykh Al-Allāmah Rabi Ibn Hādi Al-Madkhali..... قبحك الله اسأل الله ان يقسم ظهرك

The heat was from your side mainly, you didn't want to discuss or ask him, you just wanted to shout accusations

Why talk about Shamshi his sister

@@tajineissuperlekker2803 I didn't it was an example

Shamsi got his ass whooped 😁

farid sadrati he ran away. Coward.

If you talk too much to a donkey he is going to think he is a horse

@@gamingwithjoshua6277 yeh he can sit with a hate preacher for hours but he can't stand in front of a Muslim for 5 min !

idiot

Then explain why the dangerous almadkhali instructed his followers to kill with Haftar to try to overthrow the government of Libya. Madkhali's loyal assassins said they will "obey Haftar even if instructs to sin".

@@drg312 no, Shamsi is right no "madkhali" scholar said obey tge ruller if he tells you to kill

@@sufyanalthawri1257 Shaykh madkhali orders his followers to kill for example in Libya under General Haftar and in Yemen. His top students in Libya said "we will obey Haftar even if he orders us to sin" The madkhali scholars say even if the scholar commits kufr don't rebel - shamsi knows this but is being disengenius. Shaykh Taweel and many others say obey the leader even if he sexually assulated your family members. Shaykh Al-Rayees says in a fatwa which went viral in Arab world even if the leader commits zina and drinks alcohol every day live in TV you must obey and not even publically condemn him and invite people to love him. In Egypt the famous madkhali scholars asked Sisi to kill the protesters.

Hadith on Corrupt Rulers Quran & Hadith The Messenger of Allah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wa Sallam) said: "There will be after me leaders, whoever enters to visit them, believes them in their lies and helps them in their oppression is not from me and I am not from him, and he will not be admitted into the Hawd. Whoever does not enter to visit them, does not help them in their oppression and does not believe their lies is from me and I am from him and such a person will be admitted into the Hawd." (In the Sunan, Vol 8, Page 165, Tirmidhi, An Nasai & Al Hakeem)

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shame-si is the clown ... madkhali coward dog

Bro Shamsi gets it from these brothers twitter.com/baladimarrocc?lang=en, website doesn't work atm but send them an email or whatsapp message

Abu lahab tha heck

Omar Seyfullah Barekzai no it’s not true u obey them in everything except sin,, just like the parents

Madkhalis are the puppets of all the arab leaders wasakh

Shamsi himself said in the video that he doesn’t believe that

Abdul Mo just following the sunnah

MAY ALLAH GUIDE SHAMSI OR BREAK HIS BACK!!! MAY ALLAH GUIDE ABU KHADEEJAH OR BREAK HIS BACK!!! MAY ALLAH DESTROY MADKHALIYYAH!!!! TAKBIR!!!! ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!

Brother this is the standard answer but in reality this is not what madkhali scholars advocate. Madkhali scholars advocated overthrow of President Morsy and the killing of his supporters. Shaykh Rabee orders his followers to kill for Haftar and cause an uprising against President Sarraj of Libya. One of the top madkhali followers of Shaykh Rabee in Libya says "we follow Haftar even in sin". Shaykh Al-Taweel of Kuwait says obey ruler even if he sexually abuses your female relatives and shaykh Al-Rayees says if ruler goes on TV each day commiting zina don't condemn him by name and invite people to love him.

Dr G No.1 There’s a difference between the Ruler falling into sin himself like drinking alcohol or committing Zina etc... that’s between him and Allāh. So long as he is a Muslim then you still have to listen and obey due to the plentiful ahadith in this baab. Like the statement of the Messenger of Allāh صلى الله عليه وسلم “Listen and obey to the ruler even if he hits your back or takes your wealth.” A very clear cut command to still listen and obey the Muslim ruler even if he is sinful and oppressive so long as he is a Muslim. So those sins are between him and his Lord. As for if the ruler orders you to carry out a sin then Ahlus-Sunnah hold that it is impermissible to obey in that sin specifically but you still have to obey him generally in other things. Meaning if he orders you to drink alcohol then you are forbidden to obey him and then if he orders you right after with something not opposing the religion then you have to listen and obey him. This is what the scholars of the Salafis teach and spread the likes of Shaykh Rabee, Shaykh Fawzan and other than them. Distinguish between the two affairs for they are not the same. Perhaps your misunderstanding has lead you to accusing some mashaykh that which they did not say. We do not believe - as is common now and widespread - that if the ruler falls into a sin then he is Kafir or if the ruler falls into a sin or commands with a sin then we have to revolt against him and remove him due to the ahadith warning against revolting against him and commanding to be patient with him and anyone who reads history knows the great evil caused by revolting against ones muslim ruler. The way of going against ruler just because of a sin is from the way of the Khawarij and a perfect example of how the Salaf were in dealing with rulers that are sinful is their dealing with Hajjaj bin Yusuf. al-Hasan al-Basri and many of the companions warned against revolting and going against the ruler even though he killed thousands intact even some Sahabah. Is any ruler worse than Hajjah and is any of us better than the Sahabah and Tabi’een? والله أعلم وبالله التوفيق

@Abdul Aziz رد العالم الجليل الشيخ ربيع بن هادي المدخلي عن هذه الأكاذيب رَدُّ الصَّارمِ المصقُولِ إلى نَحْرِ شَاهِـــره المــخذُولِ الجاهل العابثِ بالأصولِ ) نقــد لفاحل الـحربي( كـتبه ربيع بن هادي عُمري المدخلي ... لقد سلك فالح مسلكاً رديئاً ظالماً في عرض كلامي ومناقشته فهو يعرض نُتَفاً من كلامي ويخفي مجموع سياقه وأدلته وقرائنه ثم يُرجف بما يوافق هواه ويؤكد عليه ويدندن حوله بما ينسبه إليَّ من التنازل المطلق عن الأصول ، وتنازل رسول الله صلى اله عليه وسلم عن رسالته ! ،تلك الفرية الكبرى التي افتراها عليَّ فالح وحزبه الأثيم ، بل حتى النتف التي يختطفها لا يعول على شيئاً منها ، بل يهدرها إهداراً ظالماً ولو كان عنده شيء من الإنصاف لخفف من ظلمه وشره . ... أرجوا من كل مخلص يريد الحق أن يقرأ هذا المقال الذي كتبه الشيخ ربيع ردا عن هذه الأكاذيب ru-vid.com?redir_token=zReKhwmjeo-O8ByP5TaDrYH9qHB8MTU1NjU4MDUxOUAxNTU2NDk0MTE5&stzid=UgwomQC0WX4o2l8afud4AaABAg&event=comments&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.ma%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D3%26cad%3Drja%26uact%3D8%26ved%3D2ahUKEwjy8cH98vPhAhW3DGMBHT8jDeUQFjACegQIAhAC%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.sheikfawzi.net%252Far%252Fbook%252Frabiee%252Falkashf4.pdf%26usg%3DAOvVaw1Y9mFgaV65qRlI_cPgjg0T

@Abdul Aziz you're such a liar

@@IbnAbdurRazaq Sheikh Sulayman Al Alwan said that some of the Sahaba and tabieen made Takfir of Hajjaj, furthermore, Abdullah ibn abi Zubayr RA rebelled against him, so did Sa'ad ibn Jubayr. Are they Khwaarij? Husayn ibn Ali RA rebelled against the rulers, was he a Khariji? Abu Hanifa supported a rebellion against the rulers, was he also a Khariji? May Allah guide the Madkhalis or break their backs!

You make tabdia on almost every Muslim scholar and backbite them behind their back every day, don't be a hypocrite.

@@adelbenmsioud5983 I never said anything about him, If I did Show me please what I said. The hadith is very clear don't obey rullers if they disobey Allah.

Don’t idolise - go back to the scholars

@@PantheraTK wth are you taling about idolising? So if u day someone is good theese days and his telling the truth im an idoliser? Are u lost mate

James Soloman Caan “best da’wah giver ever” is not an appropriate way to fanboy over someone. This is extremism in love. Be moderate, this is the path of the salaf

No he is not

where does he make takfir?

sim ba SubhanAllaah more like Shamsi and shaykh Rabee gained some of this mans good deeds.

First congrats on the overthrow of Boutaflika. Secondly, I am not an ikhwani but not sure what that has got to do with the discussion. If you have something useful to say come discuss with me next Sunday on topic of the Arab Spring revolution and see if you can last 15 minutes habibi.

I may come this sunday too i too dislike madkhalies.

@@drg312 Carry on exposing the Madkhalis brother, but let me tell you something, read the works of the fuqaha, this is their kryptonite. Read Al muhalla by ibn Hazm (if you know Arabic). It completely exposes their evil. Furthermore read the works of sulayman Al alwan, Safar Al hawali, Abu Hanifa, imam Malik, imam shafii, history of the Sahaba is also their kryptonite. Abdullah ibn az Zubayr rebelled against the ruler, was he a Khariji? Sa'ad ibn Jubayr rebelled against the rulers, Abu Hanifa supported rebellion. Are they all Khariji? Please brother, use the works of the scholars plus history. And one last thing, Abu Khadeejah is their head in the UK and he has been exposed as a fraud. These followers however are idiots and need to see the truth. Show them this.

@@retvrntotradition4454 Do you think Safar Al hawali is higher among the scholars than ibn othaimeen and ibn baz?

@@عبدالرحيمعمر-ض6ش I mentioned Ibn Hazm first and he is definitely much more higher in status than ibn baz and ibn uthaymeen. Read Al Muhalla.

The guy accused Shamsi of pimping his own sister to some cleric. This is clearly not a debate but a personal attack on shamsi.

how can he lost it when the opponent didn't provide evidences?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you are a joke mate😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yes I didn't mean to insult him at all, it's like me saying what if the ruler raped your sister would you still REBEL. I even showed this to a independent student of knowledge in Madinah University - he said it was clear that you are referring to the famous Rayess fatwa which shocked the Arab world and that Shamsi used this as an excuse to run away.

@@drg312 is it you in video?

But he said absolute truth,he dont own any apology to anybody

@usa wicked I am an Aboriginal black man to this planet where my ancestors where in the transatlantic trade slave - go figure that one out with the information you have. Now tell me what has that got to do with Shamsi running with his now 3yr old stick (if he still has it) 🤦🤦🤦

Really are you sure

on the contrary, the people you called madkhali are wide-spreading in the east and the west why are lying .

Everyone keeps chit chatting, but none of you guys are bringing any proof still ... like come on why should be blind follow you guys????

@@djamelcher7959 لا, هذا ليس صحيحا. ممكن بين أهل الجهل ولكن أهل الخبرة يعرفون عن الشيوخ في المملكة العربية السعودية و الظلم فيها ضد الجميع الناس.

@@MrResearcher122 you're such a liar

Madkhali scholars advocated overthrow of President Morsy and the killing of his supporters. Shaykh Rabee orders his followers to kill for Haftar and cause an uprising against President Sarraj of Libya. One of the top madkhali followers of Shaykh Rabee in Libya says "we follow Haftar even in sin". Shaykh Al-Taweel of Kuwait says obey ruler even if he sexually abuses your female relatives and shaykh Al-Rayees says if ruler goes on TV each day commiting zina don't condemn him by name and invite people to love him.

@Faizal Abubaker If Shamsi or whoever is more knowledgeable than him in the madkhali cult will agree to a moderated debate I will happily give you the evidence from the Quran, sunnah and actions of the salaf taht revolutions are allowed, but you guys are afraid of this very kind of discussion that will expose your cult.

You just as ignorant as the person who he was talking to with no proofs.

Amīn

The guy accused Shamsi of pimping his own sister to some cleric. This is clearly not a debate but a personal attack on shamsi. May Allah guide that man to the truth and leave his falsehood.

@@lakaafa No he didn't at 5:09 he said not your sister to Shamsi. May Allah guide Shamsi to sirat al mustaqim and away from Saudi funded scholars for petrodollars

link

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zw4pSpsAnI0.html 9:55

Britishfever456 your two two cents had absolutely nothing to do with this video.

@@saifuldeen the derogatory term "Madkhali" is based on Shaikh Rabea' and historically, has everything to do with this video.

May Allah guide SPUBS or break their backs!

@@retvrntotradition4454 We seek Allah to guide them and NOT break their backs.

Dr G go to speakers corner then

@@saifuldeen but will shamsi agree or run away as usual. He doesn't want to debate an Arab who knows the sources.

Dr G why don’t you go there and find out if you are serious????

@@saifuldeen are you confirming Shamsi will debate me without running away?

Dr G lol I’m telling you if you want to debate him you should go to speakers corner and ask him for a debate. No point in acting brave behind a computer is there?

hassleoffa it's worn to cover the Awrah not for sand ....

sah

What you talking about ?? You will dissobey prothet peace be upon him or what ? You must follow your leader except if he tell you to do something outside teaching of islam.. go do your homework

@@ayubma3635 The Saudi government are no benefit to Muslims and should not be worshipped or loved. The Sharia or Quran doesn't say you need to love your leaders, it says to love Muslim leaders not Saudi leaders. Saudi leaders are best friends with the USA and Israel who are massacring Muslims.

@@sayidadam9794 leader is a leader my friend if you live in saudi you need to obey - على المرءِ المسلمِ الطَّاعةُ فيما أحبَّ وكرِه ، إلَّا أن يُؤمرَ بمعصيةٍ ، فمن أمر بمعصيةٍ فلا طاعةَ. الراوي: عبدالله بن عمر | المحدث: ابن جرير الطبري | المصدر: تفسير الطبري الصفحة أو الرقم: 4/1/199 خلاصة حكم المحدث: صحيح التخريج: أخرجه البخاري (7144)، ومسلم (1839)، وأبو داود (2626)، والترمذي (1707)، والنسائي (4206)، وابن ماجه (2864)، وأحمد (6278)، والطبري في ((التفسير)) (9877) واللفظ له.

@@sayidadam9794 - دَخَلْنا علَى عُبادَةَ بنِ الصَّامِتِ، وهو مَرِيضٌ، قُلْنا: أصْلَحَكَ اللَّهُ، حَدِّثْ بحَدِيثٍ يَنْفَعُكَ اللَّهُ به، سَمِعْتَهُ مِنَ النبيِّ صَلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّمَ، قالَ: دَعانا النبيُّ صَلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّمَ فَبايَعْناهُ، فقالَ فِيما أخَذَ عَلَيْنا: أنْ بايَعَنا علَى السَّمْعِ والطَّاعَةِ، في مَنْشَطِنا ومَكْرَهِنا، وعُسْرِنا ويُسْرِنا وأَثَرَةً عَلَيْنا، وأَنْ لا نُنازِعَ الأمْرَ أهْلَهُ، إلَّا أنْ تَرَوْا كُفْرًا بَواحًا، عِنْدَكُمْ مِنَ اللَّهِ فيه بُرْهانٌ.. الراوي: عبادة بن الصامت | المحدث: البخاري | المصدر: صحيح البخاري الصفحة أو الرقم: 7055 خلاصة حكم المحدث: [صحيح]

I’m guessing your one of the clueless ones 😂

Bro shamsi litterly asked for proof but he didn't give shit all the other guy screamed was your a madkhali

That does not make his claims invalid.

@@nazmulslater8398 his claims are invalid. he is just shouting, not bringing any proofs. what I meant by not keeping a beard and drinking with the left hand is that if someone cannot even do the fundamentals of the religion how can we take the bigger things? May Allah keep us upon salafiyyah and with the major scholars such as Sheikh Rabee and Sheikh Fawzaan. Ameen p.s not looking for a back and forth. Alhumdulillah

speak English mate

teach me mate @@aishacalvert6572

The guy accused Shamsi of pimping his own sister to some cleric. This is clearly not a debate but a personal attack on shamsi. The real coward is you who supports ISIS.

@@lakaafa IS are muslims like you, the only difference is you live in the west and they don't....they are you brothers and sisters...they read the same book they have more Iman than you...if you were not living in the west you will be killing the one who disagrees with you understanding of the Quran....shamsi will be fighting to be the new Khalifa......not wize Khalifa....🙈🙊🙈🤣🤣🤣🤣😁🤣😁🤣🤣🙊🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😁🤣🤣🤣🤣🙊🤣🤣🤣🙈😆😂😆😂😂😂😂😂

muslim xxx he said clearly in the video he wouldn't ... Either you didn't listen or you are blatantly unashamedly lying about what someone has said

@@BlueSkyblueseagreenland my frend i know how it is. This guys kill for there leaders.