Dr Mulder FF Plus vs ANC Naledi Pandor on Israel Palestine-Conflict 

Double standards...they ....ramaphosa was too much of a coward to arrest him during brics....he flew there on tax payers money to warn him to stay away.....

Putin makes war allllll over ...a bit of vinegar in water spoiled clean warer

Amen

You probably also curious why kids should not be raped right

​@@user-uf5hq2sm1e He wont get it. Mant are still lekker asleep.

It's simple. Israel was close to White South Africa because of the Jewish connection in South Africa. ANC supports Russia because of BRICS. Not to worry though. South Africa is a nonentity and a laughing stock on today's world stage.

All communists love each other.

Thankfully you are not God. And neither is He you.

Exactly 💯

I'm hoping in the 4 weeks you posted this, you've educated yourself about what is truly happening..

What the heck? You people are so pathetic I swear to god😂

And his passionate about supporting an Apartheid regime committing war crimes.

Which farmer got your panties in a twist?

Well said..

@@NineteenEightyTwo-hf1jx Why haven't those passionate supporters of the Palestinians gone in with there armies to counter the war crimes? The surrounding countries would exterminate all Jews if it wasn't for the IDF and of recent, big brother in the gulf. Both sides are guilty of killing people and let's hope all this is solved soon. Enough people have been sacrificed.

@@johnarch6876 Jewish people, Muslims and Christians co-existed in Palestine before the mass migration of zionist ashkenazi jewish people from Europe. Only issue Muslims in that region have with Israel is their treatment of the Palestinians. Being against the apartheid Zionist government in that country doesn't mean we want to exterminate all jews. I can see you have eaten up US propaganda when it comes to Islam being religion for radical genocidal terrorists. What has been done to nations like Iraq or Palestine is a war crime. They invade their land, steal their resources, grape and murder their women and children and label them terrorists for fighting back. The only solution to all the killing is end to apartheid and occupation of Palestine.

Israel had a Good relationship with the Apartheid Government.... At the end of the day after everything; the Jews got away with most of the Gold and Diamonds and the Afrikaaners still don't realize where it all went to.......

You said it just as what i had thought from the start if this clip.

U shud b ashamed palestine will b free and has my vote

Shame on Israel for genocide

​@@LightningDodger789will Palestine ask Jordan to please return 80% of Palestinian land which it occupies?

She is Muslims so she it totally deluded and just using this space for the ANC as its voting time overhere and they are getting very worried about losing power..

What are they paying you 😊

it must suck to be starts with a D and ends with a B and has a UM in the middle. Israel will carry on and finish of the job properly this time. hey @@jamildaniels1005

Move to Israel ,what are you doing in Africa

@@ianabrahamson785 What exactly will they finish off?

well its not the same party inside anymore. 35 years later its a syndicate to steal money and control everything. pseudo communist tribalism regime fake democracy hidden monarchy despot orgn.

THEY ARE NOT JUST A PARTY, TO THINK THEY ARE OUR GOVERNMENT, IT IS MIND BLOWING!!

Totally agree 👍

I agree as well.

Standing for the truth Israel are hypocrite

Really 😂😂😂

And as a black man you should be ashamed of your ignorance. Our freedom is not complete without the freedom of Palestine. These were words spoken by our first black president decades before 7/10/23

@NineteenEightyTwo-hf1jx I don't agree with President mandelas politics but I think he was great leader for the ANC and The nation, but I don't agree with his politics in most things so yeah

@@lansmgroup6540 So you don't agree with over 80% of the world, UN and human rights organizations calling Israel and apartheid state or the numerous UN resolutions stating Palestine is under occupation? DO you even know what zionism is?

@@lansmgroup6540 And the man you agree with has lied in Parliament using propaganda designed to dehumanize victims of Israeli war crimes. He is actually inciting hate and violence while promoting genocide.

And in the West bank, who's using these innocent Palestinians losing their life's as human shields?

You have just proven your ignorance to this subject matter. Turns out the 1400 Israeli victims that were used as an excuse to justify war crimes were actually IDF casualty. Bibi has been committing war crimes for actions perpetrated by his army.

Not true. Palestinians elected Hamas in an election arrangement by the USA which was internationally supervised and declared 100 % fair and free.

​@@janewhite572true. That was in 2006

You are lying through your teeth. Palestinians will never curse Hamas. Your spewing what you heard from Israeli fanatics.

FF- FREEDOM F*CK PLUS

So proud of the Israeli apartheid regime? Slaughtering millions of Palestinians? Wow!!! Were your parents perhaps Askaris?😢

Thank you tseko for your unique thinking

U are the biggest joke in South African politics

No it's not. Minister Pandor challenged his lies and he couldn't back it up with evidence. Repeating same propaganda his masters fed him

No it's not and they challenged his propaganda claims and he had no rebuttal. Minister Pandor exposed his pandering to his masters through spreading false propaganda

He breathes falsely, A summary of the truth about the palestinian-Israëli issue in this title on you tube the first video tha will appear to you is 14,29 minutes long and watch with your eyes until the end the title is : who Israël wos created

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*_ EVERY ZCC CHURCH MEMBER SHOULD TAKE A STANCE AGAINST THIS EVIL ANC!! ..... THE PALESTINIANS have caused HAVOC ever since they became a "Nation" .... They started this sort of thing in Jordan and got out of hand but the king of Jordan sorted them out 'Chop Chop' ... exterminated 25,000 of the SH!T STIRRERS.... then they went over to Lebanon and screwed that up too!! Read about "BLACK SEPTEMBER" _*

Evil is die broer and Apartheid regime

imagine a government opposing occupation and war crimes being evil.🤣🤣 . Open a book and learn history before embarrassing yourself. Ever heard of Nakba or the many military operations by the occupiers to eradicate the individuals our government supports.

As a south African I agree

U talking utter nonsense.

@@joseromeudeabreu9999 you are talking utter nonsense, not this person

Amen

U an Mulder shud b ashamed of urselves palestine will b free

Please open your eyes, that's not the real biblical Israel, that's not real Jews, that's a fake Israel and Jews indosed by the west in 1948 for political purpose in the region and God will punish them Revelation 2:9. Jesus calls them of the Synagogue of Satan.

Anc has my vote well done palestine will b free

To hell with you You are heartless Free Palestine

To hell with you You are heartless Free Palestine

We are not separate from the entirety of the world. Humanity should rightly function as an interdependent organism

You sound like you have a share in Trevor's millions😂😂😂😂

Thank God we don't want them here anyways

You will be surprised how many people are waking up to the Western propaganda and destruction. The Guardian released something they had to later remove because it was highlighting people to the real issues behind the unrest in the middle East. More Americans than you can imagine supports Russia and doesn't blindly believe propaganda machines disguised as media. South Africans will remember the sides chosen by each party as the world watched a certain state commit war crimes with impunity.

You will find that the world is no longer what it was 25 years ago. Lots of Americans, British and Europeans care about justice for everyone and will not pander to the right wing hogwash about Israel being always right

Trevor Noah is compromised!! How the hell could he claim that all muslims are not terrorists?? Let him read Quran 9 v 29,and then retract that statement, if he's consistent!!

who cares about your vote anc will win again😁

​@@siphodlamini3549of course as they own the IEC. Plus they have 18 million voters on social welfare. And half of Mozambique and Zimbabwe also vote for them due to bribery. You golo

Go to Europe stand for your own continent this is African continent for black African masses

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south africans see there is still many racists in this country thtat would jump to put apartheid back into place

More people stand with palestine 🇵🇸 and its people who is oppressed by Isreal

​@@fariedabarden94094:40 and how very wrong they are. 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

@@lynncw9202 I think that you yourself cannot believe the true so you believe the lies.

@@fariedabarden9409 nope. Hamas are savages as they showed the world on The 7th October.

She has wrong information about the history of the land of Israel, it the Roman empire, Ottoman empire and other Arab groups that displaced the Israelite over hundreds of years. The Israelite occupied the land 3000 years ago, there were no Palestinians but Philistines who were exterminated. The land rightfully belong to the Jews not the different group of people who call themselves Palestinians.

Pandor is an idiotic representative of SA, disgusting. Replace that woman that looks like a man for God's sake.

@@nkazimulondlovu2870 *_ THE PALESTINIANS have caused HAVOC ever since they became a "Nation" .... They started this sort of thing in Jordan and got out of hand but the king of Jordan sorted them out 'Chop Chop' ... exterminated 25,000 of the SH!T STIRRERS.... then they went over to Lebanon and screwed that up too!! Read about "BLACK SEPTEMBER" _*

Agree

Imagine them supporting a marginalised people 😅 being born In 61 I'm not shocked you enjoy seeing apartheid still a thing elsewhere In the world

@@kanezagar5780 I like how you jump to conclusions. 1961 is not my birth date. Also, you are delusional if you think Apartheid exists all over the world. The only apartheid there is in the one between those who makes good choices and those who makes bad choices in life. You sound like one of those woke nut jobs. PS. It also interesting to see that no one is condemning the wars in Syria and Yemen where many more Muslims are being killed by their own kind. Funny how people only does the protesting when its Jews defending themselves against barbaric terrorists.

Are u right in ur head

And the eff

​​@@ThabisoMokoena-gl8pvAre you capable of thinking? Israel is the only democracy in the middle east, it is the only country that has rule of law, that actually has a functioning economy, and you would side with the barbaric islamic terrorists who would have it destroyed and turn it into yet another poverty stricken and violent wasteland? Have you seen what is happening in Yemen? Have you seen what is happening in Syria? Where were all the pro-Palestinians then? Why were they not protesting the slaugter of innocent muslim civilians then? Because they are all hypocrites. They dont protest because they care for the Palestinians. If they did, they'd be protesting against all the Arab nations who refuse to take them in as refugees. They protest because they hate the Jews. And why do they hate them? Becaise the Jews are successful and they are not. That's it. Thats what it comes down to. Plain, lazy envy and hatred towards anyone that make your own failed miserable life look bad. That is what the Palestinian protests are all about. The ANC claims a lot of things about themselves, but look who their international friends are. They are friends with every repressive failed state, and they make enemies with the states that actually works. Its time that this cANCer is cut out so South Africa can heal for tge benefit of all its people, not just a tiny political elite. We are governed by a criminal regime, and it is only logical that they will always side with other criminal regimes.

ANC,EFF we never regret South African imperialist/white Supremacy must just go to Europe and US,Australia.

Enjoy 4 more years of ANC thanks to your parties siding with apartheid regime. We will remember who stood against war crimes and who was exposed as a paid puppet of imperialists. 2023 will be the year DA and FF lost black voters in mass.

No they won’t.

😂😂😂 r u crazy

You have no clue what you're meaning

@@sakhilemkhabela5308 you can't support radicalist and say you know what you are saying. If this policy is pursued soon and very soon we shall be a fertile ground for terrorism. Radicalist are no friends to anyone unless you are a radical as well. Here in Africa we fought for our freedom but none of our freedom fighters targeted the colonisers family and kept them as hostages.

​@@addiepromaqnot true! The so-called "freedom fighters" only attacked civilians, mostly women and children, they never once took on the SAP or SADF. They are cowards these mk and apla terrorists.

​@@addiepromaqwho are these "colonisers" anyway? Only the San and Khoi are indigenous to Southern Africa. The Bantu are themselves colonisers

This very same Mulder was a supporter and upholder of Apartheid... makes you think how much of history we know

​@@mrb1110well you don't know that as a fact! Besides unlike mandela he never murdered innocent civilians or invent the necklace!

No they have proven themselves as leaders who stand against oppression.

​@@fariedabarden9409😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 All while they stock up their bank accounts with public money! You are insane

Kanti he's a Dr😮, but ke Magudumana is also a Dr.

​@@yoliswababa313bought a degree.......now a doctor???? Habe

Continue standing with Israel Bradley Jantjies6858.

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Once again total colonial imperial mentality on display from the FF. Viva Africa Viva.. Viva Palestine Viva. Thank you world for the phenomenonal support on Palestine. The terrorist Israel lies are being exposed on a massive scale. Their evil agenda is being exposed. And evil never wins

Keep exposing yourselves. Voting for ANC and EFF is paramount for the sake of SA sovereignty.

@@NineteenEightyTwo-hf1jx Time for change fellow South Africans, 2024 we're voting beyond racial lines. Emotional blackmail will not work in 2024 elections. Time for change. 🤣

@@user-lo9me7vs2r Yes it is time for change. Change from Western imperial hegemony. I'm sure like most you oppose the mass migration of illegal immigrants to SA yet pro the very US that caused the unbearable conditions that force people to migrate. DA and many other opposition parties have proven to be pro-Western hegemony and voting for any of those parties would be voting against true economic freedom as Africa. Only apartheid sympathizers would side with Israel, and many have exposed themselves and for that, we thank you.

Who's we? 😂 Most of us do not stand with Huamn Rights abusers, Apartheid states and ethnic cleansers.

I'm also a Christian in south africa, but I also know that in the Torah (the Jewish bible) it says that the Jewish people have to wait for the Messiah to return before they can establish a homeland. So the current people in Israel are disobeying the Torah by living in Israel and defending its existence. I also agree that we as Christians, Jews and Muslims shouldn't be fighting since our religions are all related. I agree that Jews should be able to live in peace in Israel but I did some research, and the israeli government doesn't treat Jews that arent white the same, they actually gave Ethiopian, Jewish women contraceptives against their will. There are some articles about it on Google. Also I did some research and the people currently living in Israel aren't the same is the Israelites, since the Israelites are the descendants of Jacob and his brothers but the Israelis are people that live in modern Israel, so they aren't the same. I also think that we as Christians shouldn't be praising any violence, whether it's Israeli violence or Palestinian violence. I think that the government has to choose to treat people equally, bcs at the end of the day, Jesus stood up for the marginalised so I think that we should as well. Plus we need to love our neighbours and obey the commandments of the lord, which tell us to not kill, so I think that also needs to be considered in this Situation. It's horrible that the Israeli government is using Christianity and Judaism as a justification for bombing innocents, that isn't what we stand for. I think that we as Christians need to do alot of research about this because the media has been telling us all a certain story and we need to make sure that we aren't just believing anything these days. ❤

Well they murdered Jesus Christ and you stand with them? Clearly you hate Jesus😢

@@Gorilla8 Lord Jesus was not murdered, but He laid down His life in order to save us from our sins and eternal death 💔 🙏. People that are sharing that same belief are very wrong and do not understand the Bible. They are are anti-semetic and share in the evil say that the Jews have no right to exist. That spirit comes from Satan and not from God. I there advise anyone with that evil and Satan belief to REPENT please 🙏.

@@jodiegates4868 Christ Jesus prophesied when He entered into Jerusalem days towards His crucifixion that Jerusalem was going to be destroyed and the land was going to remain desolate. That happened in 70AD when the second temple Jewish 🕍 ✡ was destroyed and level in 135 AD by Emperor Hadrian who changed the name Israel 🇮🇱 to Palestine/Philistia which in Hebrew means Invaders. That was after the revolt of the Jews and Emperor Hadrian wanted to humiliate and remove the memory & heritage of the Jews from the land of Israel 🇮🇱. Jews were scattered by God and He promised to bring them bavkvinto their land, which He fulfilled in Ezekiel 36 and 37. Not only that but there are many supporting scriptures where God said that Ge was going to bring back His people, the Jews back into their land; Israel 🇮🇱. I pray that the Pastor's and Teacher's in the Body of Christ will begin to teach the Bible right by firstly diving the Word of truth by showing Israel's role and the role of tge Church. Romans 11 is a scripture that perfectly 👌 show Israel 🇮🇱 and the Church ⛪. The Church has not replaced Israel 🙏. Israel 🇮🇱 is still God's nation and He brought them back into their land for a reason and for a season. The greatest news of them all is that Israel 🇮🇱 will be saved according to Romans 11: 26 - 27 and Zachariah 12: 10. We are to stand and pray for Israel 🇮🇱 as the Church ⛪/Body of Christ Jesus 🙏 ❤.

@@rejoiceinthelord3406 Preach on sister,"Forgive them Father, cos they know not what they are doing ". Ultimately he died at their hands and they are doing the same to the Palestinians. They're executing women and children. It's an Arab holocaust and the world is watching with a smile, including you yet you claim Christianity. I will pray for your soul my sister and hope that hatred for innocent women and children changes and you repent

What matter could you possibly stand _with_ the ANC and EFF? These are corrupted selfish criminals who want to loot South Africa for their own personal benefit. They both need to voetsek.

They do because as a government they know what Apartheid looks like.

Didn't Libya and other countries accept political exiles and train them in warfare??? Mandela made this very clear.... Its in the History Books....

Yes, I remember that. When it was reported, I though, how arrogant and blind he was to say such a thing.

The ANC always supported the Palestinians.

Thank you South Africa. Thank you to jews all over the world protesting for Palestine.. . For showing the true colors of the racist colonial occupier Israel. There is no room for colonial mentality in South Africa anymore.. Go back to Europe

Why bash the ANC when you full know that the ANC suffered similar fate under the National Party. Is it not understandable where their sympathies lie? The reason why Mulder is so pro Israel is that his forefathers invented apartheid. He is on the wrong side of history and just endorsing the terrible system of apartheid but which is far worse in Israel today. Problem with the collective west is we are up the backside of America and do exactly as we are told. No back bone. Why are sanctions that were applied so harshly to South Africa not applied to Israel?? Double standards again. I am not an ANC supporter and never will be. But on this issue I agree with them. There has to be a two state solution or this savagery from both sides will continue another 75 years

And rightfully so. His opening on the "atrocities" of Hamas resistance were dismantled within +-24 hours of all the lies spoken, statements made of the beheaded babies were retracted by the same journalists who made it. Why did he choose to open with that? It only means his looking at this from 1 side and pushing a narrative of 1 side unfortunately.

Before BRICS meeting phando was talking about this maybe you was not here