This just motivated me. I have been researching ACEs for about 2 years now and im ready to make a move to create a policy change and implement early screening for ACEs at all wellness checkups and taking it a step further and screening the parents. Thank you Dr. Nadine Burke Harris. this was very impactful to me. Can wait to finish graduate school and begin my work as a change agent.
Hello, I'm interested in how you're getting on with the policy change; how are things going? I'm in the early stages of studying to become an Educational Phycologist and really behind this movement.
I broke that generation cycle...I choose not to have children... I was 8yrs old and I remember telling myself that I would never have children because of childhood abuse
Not having children does NOT stop the pain. As long as you're alive and you do not release that POISON of bitterness within you....you will transmit that negativity to everyone you come in contact with. Read the book " Child Called It" by David Pelzer The story of an extremely abused boy that grew into a healthy man!
I am a survivor, and I struggle with C-PTSD. Im so glad, that for kids stuggeling to survive their upbringing, now have such well informed help. I am 53. I cannot help but wonder how my health would be better today, than it is, had only someone with all this knowledge intervined on my behalf. God bless you in your very important work. 🥰😇🙏
I would like to express my gratitude for the work that Dr. Nadine Burke Harris and others are doing in the way of linking adverse childhood experiences and toxic stress to health issues experienced later in life. This was a very beautiful and informative talk - it is clear that Dr. Nadine is very passionate about her research. I am blessed to have all of this information available to me prior to having any children of my own. Knowledge is power and I am feeling empowered to be an amazing mother someday, in sha’a Allah. 💝
For me this just solidifies my my faith in God even more & gives me more reason to praise Him because my ACE score was 8, but by His grace & mercy I have over-come all that was against me.
It would be AMAZING if we actually did the ACE screening with ANTENATAL appointments. As then we could really start putting those supports in place BEFORE the children arrive.
Gotta find a way to heal adults who suffer from these traumas, only this way cycles can be stopped. These adults if not aware and not healed can keep doing all the unhealthy traumatic behaviours again
You are doing an amazing job! This is groundbreaking and needed!! I am a childhood/adult trauma survivor. You HAVE to go deeper than the pediatrician visit. You have to go into schools, the community, the churches, daycare, etc. This must be a part of intricate daily life, or still too many will be overlooked. The vision is amazing, but it must be MUCH more in depth, or it may prove to be ineffective.
I don't believe the government would invest fully into ACEs because accepting the truth of ACEs means we now have to focus on solving many root issues/direct causes of health problems. I'm not sure our government wants to possibly create mass "cures", while getting kids off of medications that bring in great profits. Full investment may bring about the mass development of needed programs and aid that would directly fight ACEs. I believe full government investment into ACE would begin to shine a brighter light into the environments of the low income, impoverished, and most targeted cultures "especially the hoods, the ghettos, trailer parks, the working class, etc. The denial of full measures, strategies, and funding for so many "root issues", reminds me we have leaders who are not often concerned with the best course of action. We have leaders concerned with the most profitable or outdated strategies.
The minute you are aware of a problem, a symptom, or adverse trauma, the only one that can truly help is oneself. You also need to want to get cured, and not dwell in the past and blaming. It’s tough and it hurts but awareness leads to engagement to ownership.
@@nestorar If you remove childhood trauma and remedies from the Quran there won’t be much left of the book. That’s all it talks about. The problem is with translations...
That’s not the case for children. The most healing aspects at that age can be applied by parents because they include sleep, nutrition, mindfulness, mental health care, and healthy relationships.
I totally agree with her. When she was talking about the child whose asthma acted up when the dad punched holes in the wall, my first thought was asbestos. (Or some other toxic chemical being released). That's just where my thoughts went. But seriously, childhood trauma is terrible and I wish everyone could have a beautiful childhood filled with love and void of emotional, physical, and sexual abuse. And it all does affect everyone deeply. I'm really grateful for her passion regarding this matter and dedication to making the world a better place.
This video makes so much since! A lot of us has been down deep into Dr. Nadine's well. Lots of us has found a way out. but many of us is still looking for that rope that will lift us out of the well of hell.
I am excitedly surprised! I had no clue that Dr’s had made that connection! I’m no doctor. Just struggling like so many; but now I have hope. Hope for children. It’s been obvious to me for so long. Now knowing that Dr Burke is researching and making moves to address this issue… gives me hope
I'd love if Pediatrician Nadine Burke Harris' work, research and company can reach international basis someday, so more children and adults with and without ACEs can become more aware, help and be helped! :)
What about the "adult" that had 10x childhood aces, and is now chronically ill? Learned what it is, changed it for their child, but is still suffering massive consequences for it? Learned coping skills, learned new behaviors, stopped the cycle...but my body is seriously sick now...doctors don't care, 12 specialists, none talk to each other...I'm not functioning at 50..it's so sad!
I wish there was more information on what adults, that experienced trauma as children, can do to heal. Dr. Burke Harris mentioned it was helpful to talk about it but is there anything else? Does anyone know?
CBT, EMDR, and mindfulness are the top ones. If you can’t get yourself to do any of these, start with play (nothing productive or around accomplishments, the sillier the better).
I hope the “experts” look at the lack of successful healing of all the adults who suffered ACE, I think prevention is great, but not looking at the adults who struggle every day, who also are part of passing on the transgenerational trauma is part of the problem. We as adult survivors need a lot of help too!
This is also why I’m here. I have been struggling for years and just coming to a realization that my childhood traumas are at the root of my longterm emotional and physical health issues. I was laid off my job in 2019 and had never been unemployed for over 30 years so I plummeted as it was just before Covid lock down. I’m struggling to find my way back to some sense of normalcy. Wanting to get up and start my day simply doesn’t exist for me anymore.
Sounds like my life. I just want to say I am a grandmother and my score was 10! After gaining this knowledge I want to stop this cycle. I worked from the age of 14 till I was 53. After being diagnosed with multiple auto immune disorders and a cancer survivor, I was no longer able to work. Dr.Nadine gave me that AHA moment “that’s what’s wrong with me” now I want to heal, help my adult children heal and hopefully break this cycle with my grandchildren.
31:39 Good list 33:20 Schadenfreude The "Good Relationships" piece is one of the least believed. Which never ceases to amaze me. Since Bad Relationships was the Cause, why wouldn't Good Relationships be the Cure? Why wouldn't it show up on an MRI?
Is is safe for me to say that someone in the family must have a high tolerance level for others in the family to be shielded from (ACEs). Just a thought. I loved, "When we know better, we do better.". I would like to thank my Mother for doing her best to give me a safe childhood. But society has some work to do. Outside victims spread their ACE issues on others. Maybe an ACE test should be done before a person gets married. At least you will somewhat know what you are getting into.
One way to heal it is to continue to advance forward no matter what. Something I told my own subscribers this week. As I see this daily as a healthcare provider. People who are destroyed adults because they couldn't outrun a terrible childhood. Too many times this becomes the excuse to give up. The reason someone won't try. "Because this (fill in the blank) happened to me." Now understand I am not discounting terrible childhoods. I had one as well. What I am saying is that the world doesn't care. It is totally indifferent. It may owe you but good luck trying to collect. The only way to collect your due is to go out and seek it, pursue it and take it back from the universe. The stories of great triumph are rarely without great adversity--ever notice that? Most will lie down to bad circumstances. But those who get up and fight back will insure that their story is a great one. Hope this helps someone out there---keep being great---Charles.
So true i myself has experienced that i was victimizing myself but luckily l realised it is not the right way to move forward. I am now trying to heal myself but it is very hard and painful but at least now i am hopeful. And you are right the world doesn't care in fact if they find out what happen to you they try to hurt you even more. But hey i am stronger now and moving forward so thats what matter.
Her findings are essential to know but how do you break the cycle of trauma? It seems to me that parents are the ones who really need to realize that THEY have a serious problem and that is addressing where they are in their level of emotional intelligence and making it a mission in their lives to develop it with the attention it deserves. A tall order indeed but if you are going to have kids, there is no other way.
I am very happy this Dr discovered all this.... Just gave Child Protection permission to take my children!!!! I love my kids!!!! I have a spoiled 15yr old who has really messed up!!!! Let me know. Where the hell were you while my crappy mother fought with my dad and used me as a scapegoat!!! I was a victim then....I'm being victimized now!!!! How do you things sleep?
We not only need to look at policy that separates caregivers from young children - we also need to provide education, training and support to caregivers - in school and also from the birth of their child. If we can create healthy stable children to the age of 7 - we will save trillions within 50 years and create a MUCH healthier, happier and productive society. This also improves the economy (except for pharma companies). As someone who has paid privately for therapy for over 10 years and been recently diagnosed with CPTSD - we also need to provide evidence based support / therapy for the adults who have already experienced toxic stress / trauma and who have been living with the consequences throughout their adult hood. We were unseen as children - and we are unseen as adults. Big pharma companies are the major stumbling block - as you can’t give a child /adult with cPTSD a pill to ‘fix’ them
She did actually get to that at @42:50. She says we need to focus on prevention as well as supporting families to be safe and stable. She does talk about the economic benefit as well @43:15.
The most important piece of information I gleaned from this is that relationships and physical contact help heal the physical effects of trauma. Why? Ocytocin is a powerful hormone that's stimulated through physical touch. Why are Kpop stars so youthful and physically, mentally, and emotionally healthy compared to US celebrities? It might boil down to something fans call "skin-ship". Kpop groups are encouraged to bond through physical touch; they hug, hold hands, play physical games together, etc. --things that were once commonplace in our society but have since been replaced by electronics. Ocytocin is known to reverse aging, treat anxiety, even improve wound healing! We were designed by our Creator to bond with others. Long before covid, many school policies began preventing teachers and staff from physically interacting with children. A friend of mine was almost fired because a student ran up to him and gave him a hug. Is it any wonder that more and more children are showing physical, mental, and emotional developmental problems? Women with low oxytocin levels (often due to childhood neglect) are more likely to impulsively throw themselves at the first man who looks at them because they're trying to fill a void. People with healthy oxytocin levels are more stable and less desperate because they "feel safe". So what can we do about it? Encourage physical interaction. Remember the days when you held hands with your best friend? Let's bring them back. If you're a teacher, play games that involve holding hands, high fives, hugs, etc.
I applaud her efforts but I don't see how screening as described would solve the issue. They have screened for depression, substance abuse, domestic violence etc for years. People either avoid taking the child to the doctor unless they are dieing or tell them what not to say. The involvement of child services in the lives of kids or parents whose lives are already troubled often just makes their situations more complicated or worse the child is taken away. I grew up in foster care.. as far as stress and chaos it was much worse. So just screening for those issues wouldn't change anything until they change how they deal with it. The parents who know they have mental or substance abuse issues often avoid getting help for fear of loosing their children.
I’m getting to the middle where separation of families and nurturing is best to combat toxic stress 💯. But how do we determine as quickly as possible if we are separating children from nurturing families or from their trafficker ??
The Children. Listen to the children. Oftentimes they should be separated from both parents and extended family as well. Look at the ACe factors and which parents and even grandparents are exposing the children to that type of trauma. We’d like to think one parent is better or extended family can take the child but sometimes trauma factors are prevalent throughout the family.
I don't drink and I've never smoked and I have a solid 8 but I do what ever I can to avoid doing them because my stepdad was a alcoholic and a drug addict and he was a loser basically mostly do to his drinking and my mother was a weekend and holiday alcoholic drink like a 24 pack of beer on weekends and not drink during the week but her doing it on weekends probably made her worse as well so I don't drink smoke or do drugs because I don't want to turn out like they did and that's why alot of people with a high number of aces don't do drugs because they avoid turning out to be like there caregivers most people with aces do smoke or drink or do drugs because they've been influenced by there parents doing it or they get really depressed and drown there pain and some with high number of aces end up living in poverty when there adults so alot of them can't afford drugs or alcohol or smoking so aces in some way can increase the risk of alcoholism and we'll mostly it does increase the risk of it but sometimes it can cause people with aces to avoid it
In my years of research ...I've cant quit understand why no one looks at welfare programs as a leverage used by state governments to incarcerate mothers, the only parent in the house . We well understand the problem (systems that keep the poor in an abusive experience, especially blk folks)... theres no real commonwealth of closing gaps with abuse
We need more people like Nadine Burke who are passionate about their field of study, not greedy people who make money out of people's sickness. We also need to break the cycle of childhood abuse
Sorry to be the jaded one but when I was growing up no one gave a fuck and now as an adult I get told to get over it. As long as this is people's attitude this shit isn't going away.
I hear you, Daniela. It is very frustrating, and I feel it reflects the same dynamic as we experienced in childhood. Those who "could" help, instead expected us to "suck it up", and just get over it. The sad reality, I think, is that there are so many traumatized "adults", and they keep it repressed. That's what they want us to do; anything but be "triggers" for their unresolved shit. Also, what we need is costly in terms of time and money, and as it's a pandemic, it must not be brought to light. The stronger one fights for help, the more labels one will be slapped with. The gaslighting from childhood never ends. I wish you well, and can assure you that you are not alone.
How will the science impact legislation? i.e. There are is a statute of limitations on reporting/prosecuting crimes of sexual, and or physical abuse. If ACEs affect us our whole lives why do perpetrators get a "pass" with a statute of limitations? How will this change, through the public health system?
It is my understanding that when these things occur in a household research shows that removing a child from the household will do more harm than good so I think there needs to be more funding put into healing the whole family which will hopefully make getting help accessible to those who otherwise would not be able to access it
It's good that you mentioned aces past down from generation to generation it definitely has with me and my family both my parents grew up with alot of aces so did my grandparents as well I don't know about my great grandparents but I know my great grandfather faught in the world war 2 and that in on itself really is like going through alot of aces so aces really has affected our family generation to generation aces past down to me my brother and my cousin's as well and alot of us have mental health problems because of it me and my brother both have ace score of 9 or 10 we all had it pretty difficult in my family
I want to help in anyway possible to help with getting ACES in the Education System. She needs to get in touch with Kamila Harris and talk to her more about getting the Education System and Teachers to work with all of the children that are being exposed to the affects of children who are living with ACES Now, and start teaching children differently, we need to help them to make a change in what & how we are teaching children. We need to start helping & assisting children in an entirely different way, we need to help kids when their young emotional regulation and explain about some things that happen in families, and how these actions are not normal and if you know someone or are someone who has seen or live in this situation, that it’s okay to come and talk to any of the adults at school anytime, and you if anyone said not to talk about it or you’ll be sent away to live in a terrible home, that isn’t true, it’s just a story someone said. It’s okay to come talk to us, we are only here to help you, we would never do anything to hurt you. I’m not completely sure how it could work. All I know is that we need to do something to help children when their young, so not only do they grow to know how to emotionally regulate, before they get to be teenagers or Adults with mental illness that they have to live with & the Nation gets to live with in all the different cities and towns around the world. And Yes we need to work with Adults who have ACES to, because their raising our future generations. And their needs to be counselors who teach this to the Adults with ACES around the World, NOW, Everywhere, especially Now with everything that is going on our world.
All I hear is a doctor telling the fish that the ocean is wet. It makes me think there is no cure, no hope for the suffering only the stigma of being a kid with crap parents.
(Not she), Nadine, if you could please get this taught to at least Americans in the entire Education System, this needs to be shown how to teach all Educators to use this on a daily basis in the Education System.
I see how it's important to absolute take the child out of that type of environment but how offensive is it towards parent and child to take the hope of their relationship away almost like a human right violation. Why not mandate some sort of program for ALL parents to be educated on toxic lifestyles and their affect. Also a educational program for everyone else to have a type of understanding when it comes to children and Ace problems so that a family life who is already complicated and struggling will be understood rightfully and taking away many unnecessary barriers that contribute to toxic lifestyles with families and raising children
I love the direction these discussions are going in. But...,. What happens/what do you do when the source of your ACE's are the parents, the teachers, the doctors, the families etc.
That's the big public health challenge. it is not possible to remove every at-risk child from their environment. And removing a child from their home or school is itself a risk because of the trauma of separation from caregivers. The interventions therefore need to be supportive of parents and non-stigmatising. A well-funded children's centre in every neighbourhood is a start. More education for parents and teachers on ACE. And we also have to look at some of the economic problems and market failures. For example, extended families networks are broken up by a housing market that prices young parents out of the neighbourhoods they grew up in. Market fundamentalists are too blinkered to see this as a problem. But when you break up family networks, and detach children from grandparents, aunts and uncles, a buffer to ACEs has been removed.
