Dr Oliver Hartwich on the state of our education system 

The students don't make decisions about how they learn and your extreme demeanor of saying "you hate it" is not ideal. My perception of the issue from experience is when "culture" and "inclusion" which created hate, exclusion and teams which diluted focused learning and was inappropriate as to the intention of these learning institutions were introduced, we learnt very little with so much distraction. I was in a poor school in South Auckland 30 years ago, there were A LOT of poor nz Irish, scottish and war vet families that had been there for generations living with maori, had all half maori or white nzers, my family have maori and colonial ancestries of really good people, also Asian, indian, all in the same classrooms and we never even knew what race was, we just liked each other. We were poor and good people and helped each but were encouraged to feel rich in the live we had for each other, it was beautiful. There were a minority of extreme racist maori all of us had to watch out for because there was also a lot of white looking maori, I got spat at as a kid as young as 7 and yelled at pakeha and palangi regularly without any reason. The race based policies were introduced with the lie that white people were rich and oppressing maori was the most disgusting and discriminatory policies ever made. It ignited the most racist people in our suburbs for generations and a lot of white people and their maori families were forced out through abuse and exclusion through fake inclusion in their lives and schools that our ancestors had donated their skills and hardworking to build without any help. Our ancestors are being lied about and the ignorance and damage through also teachers that are grown ups just sit by and allow this divisive behaviour as an example of a good thing. Now it's rainbow clubs excluding straight children and making other sexual identities a special thing, in our school time we had gay,lesbian,Trans and no one thought it was weird and didn't have a rainbow club designed to exclude people from grown adults. However in my time the things protecting us such as dare programnes that created mutual empathy ftom police to kids and vice versa for later in life was removed and drama classes were removed when this was giving us common ground and giving us self esteem. The policies and these clubs and these obviously excluding ideas like blaming race on failure while turning people against each other, helping some financially and others not for inclusion when a school is for education to get you a job and should apply its help to all nz kids is ridiculous and has turned our education into a hateful, immature joke.

@@elizabethbradley4301 why not listen to the message instead of implying someone is an extremist for having strong negative feelings.

@@bennichols1113 I didn't say the message was negative. I have had a very bad education and bullying and separation of treatment in our mixed families because of these institutions and policies so how about listen to mine. She needs to read my feedback and act accordingly to stop repeating the same bs in our schools and be the adult and not the child

@@bennichols1113 thank you Ben. The rant above has nothing to do with what I was saying.

@@elizabethbradley4301 As I skimmed your very long response I see that you didn’t hear what I was saying. You’re way off the topic I addressed.

That is so sadly true

They are subjected to hysteria and fear don't forget, children should have their childhoods without constant alarmism

They are actually opinions picked up from mob culture

Yes I agree with you. The kids are missing out.

Yes, a nice line.

President Zuma (South Arica) said that he disliked "clever" blacks ie those educated enough to oppose him.Classical despot tactics that we are seeing here in NZ

Ohhhhhmy goodness. Isn’t that a ridiculous statement

Badly educated people have thoughts and opinions that are easier to control

@@Eohippus100 there is a lot of truth in that comment, when the PM hasn't pushed the boat out on her own education I doubt she will for anyone else....baring mind she the top job atm probably doesn't resonate with her.

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Lets get rid of her as fast as possible

If he is in your care you should think of stopping this abuse dead in its tracks

Teachers standards are dropping too

You forgot lose and loose.

..and condoning and using made up words like, versing,

@@juliusschwencke142 Had never heard that word before. Why did they find versus inadequate, I wonder ?

@@juliusschwencke142 Such a pity that they don't speak the languages of their great grandparents.

Well, Brown was wrong. 50% of those attending NZ schools in the 2020s are functionally illiterate & thus well nigh unemployable, unable even to fill in the form for financial assistance.

@@traditionalfood367 Theory v reality was obvious even back then

@@lauriescott535 Indeed even back then it was clear that the situation would only get worse; in particular after the DPB came in in '75, before which (& for many years after) said situation was dealt with by streaming. I wonder when .that ended. Teaching more than two levels in a classroom is very inefficient, unless it's done the 19th century way. Not that that was ideal; it was simply the reality of the rural schoolhouse.

That’s darkly fascinating.

Nothing to do with Māori, Buster. Quite the opposite if you knew anything about language.

You need a lab to teach real physics and chemistry

That was the case in the past. Nowadays online resources are remarkable. Besides at upper secondary school level, chemistry, botany, physics, geography, etc. camps are organised.

@@Eohippus100 Perhaps at the High School level. The problem is getting the basics of numeracy and literacy established in the first place. Nothing is going to work if you don't get these foundations settled.

@@jeffappleton926 I do agree but I was replying to the concept of home schooling right the way through

@@Eohippus100 no you can do lots of physics without a lab. And some chemistry.

bullying and anxiety epidemic. So many had to withdraw kids from school because of the trouble school created for them and homeschool. That's why homeschooling has blossomed throughout the country also, not just covid related. Better a well alive at home kid than a dead or increasingly suicidal one

@@havilahfarm1591 Agreed. I was bullied a lot at intermediate school and no member of faculty gave a shiitake mushroom. They were plenty ready to pounce when I wagged though.

The rate of dyslexia among the prison population has always been sky high.

This is New Zealand.

Makes them unable to function on the world stage English just recently overtook Mandarin as the most widely spoken language and you need to teach good English for the sake of your kids futures. Learning Maori is fine but should not be forced at the expense of the three Rs

Yup great for Haka & song...NOT for fixing a microwave, reading maori history, driving licence computer programming ,working out tide tables cooking recipe s, or understanding all human functions! whoops I feel SO whakama I cannot ask to get better!

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