Great teaching on predestination and election. God does not choose some to go to heaven and some to go to hell. God predetermined the spiritual blessings and service of everyone who is in Christ.
Once again, my favourite Pastor delivered the message, signed, sealed and delivered. Once I heard a message and wasn't sure or needed more clarity, especially if it keeps re-occuring in my heart, I know Gid is not through with me yet in the message. I cross-checked with 2 other Pastors of integrity, and am Never disappointed. Same message different delivery of the sane gospel truth. 🎉❤
I respect Dr Evans, I do. And, I'm not saying this with even a trace of sarcasm or snark, I'm honestly not. But, I find it very interesting that Calvinists think that this whole doctrine needed to be developed, when in fact I already knew and believed all of this, for the most part, and have never been a Calvinist in my life. It seems to me that Calvin needlessly complicated something that could have been explained a lot more simply. If God sent Christ to die for ALL in the hope that ALL would become elect, and the only thing that separates those who become elect from those who don't are those who CHOOSE not to believe in His name, then the punchline isn't who God supposedly elects and doesn't elect, it's those who CHOOSE to be condemned along with those who belong to first adam by CHOOSING to refuse to believe in His name. And that doesn't take away from The Lord's Sovereignty AT ALL, because IN HIS SOVEREIGNTY, He set it up that way before the foundations of the world! Therefore, people, through their choices, and subsequent refusal to believe in His name, send themselves to heaven or hell. Those choices then, implemented and excercised through the use of God given free will, are the "trigger points" that decide the ultimate fate of a human soul IN RESPONSE to the "rules of the game" that God Himself already pre-established. It seems to me that the Bible is already pretty clear about all of that on its face. It's a shame then, that for centuries man continues to do what he always has, and spends WAY too much time complicating things, and therefore engaging in controversies that need not have been controversial in the first place. God Bless you
Hey CALVINIST😂, this is how you rightly divide scripture. Nobody is predestine in ETERNITY, that means God is author of sin. NOOO we are chosen in CHRIST BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. Once we believe… the Plan of Salvation was predestined…DUH beautiful sermon
@@tommasolombardi3520 He gives us free will to grab the rope or not to grab the rope. We choose to sin or we choose to grab onto the rope. He does not always tie the rope around us and draw us to Him. If this is how you interpret this teaching than you are entitled to do so. I know I understood EXACTLY what He revealed to me that day. Blessings.
@@tommasolombardi3520 You can not take a verse put of its context. You are correct but it is up to the person to learn it, to hear it and receive the grace that is offered. Hence the free will enters into play.
@@yvettebennett6170 I’m only sharing this truth because it has brought me so much joy. To know that all glory belongs to God. Listen to R.C. Sproul if you would like he has a good explanation on free will and the doctrine of election. At the end of it we are both saved by the grace of God and that makes me happy. God bless you sister.
God does not choose who he wants to save...….the bible says WHOSOEVER which means anybody who desires...…..then you cant say God chooses cause Jesus died and took ALL the sins of mankind on his body so that anyone can call on the name of the lord
Joshua says, “choose this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served in the region beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord” (Joshua 24:15).
There is no shortage of misusing scripture to support bad doctrine. You only have to take that scripture out of context and pretend is says something it does not.
Joshua says, “choose this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served in the region beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord” (Joshua 24:15).
Stop looking at Scripture with the calvinist lense. You are missing Scripture John 12:32 Romans 1:16. Romans 10:17 the word draws men.. Romans 10:14 Revelation 22:17
By that logic than everyone will get saved because in John 12:32 Jesus says He will draw all men to Himself. You can’t isolate one verse in the Bible, and not look at it in the context of the entire Bible.
The "Elect" come to God, because God has given them a heart to do so. "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy and compassion on whom I have compassion" (Romans 9) - Chose us in Him before the foundation of the world (Eph 1:4) And nobody can come to Jesus unless the father draws them (John 6:44) God is completely sovereign over EVERYTHING. And he has sealed them with the Holy Spirit (Eph 1) And he will keep them in HIS power (1 Peter 1:5). Nothing can snatch them out of my hands Jesus says! It is not the Fathers will that I lose one!! I came to give my life for the SHEEP! Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. Ezekiel 35:25-27
Joshua says, “choose this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served in the region beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord” (Joshua 24:15).
We cannot choose God unless God does a supernatural work in our heart. The will of the flesh will always chose sin. Only when God does a work in our heart we have the ability to choose Good. Irresistible grace, thus, all glory belongs to God.
@@domo649 Ephesians 1:4, 2 Timothy 1:9, Romans 11:1-6, Exodus 33:19, John15:16. I could go on but I don’t have the time. Election is all over the Bible.
@@tommasolombardi3520 Ephesians 1:4 is a corporate election of the church in which God chose everyone who is in Christ to be holy and blameless. Not a choice for non believers to be saved. 2 Timothy 1:9 is saying that by God’s grace He saved everyone who is in Christ. In other words according to Ephesians 2:8-9 we have been saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus. Therefore in context God predetermined salvation to be by grace through faith in Christ in all eternity and this salvation has been finally revealed in the person and work of Christ. Romans 11:1-6 Paul cites the OT to show that by God’s grace He always has a remnant of people who believe despite the majority of Israelites who rebelled against God. Therefore, in context Romans 11:1-6 is actually talking about how in the same way during Elijah’s time a remnant of the Israelites were saved, in Paul’s time there was also a remnant of Jews who were saved (hence the fact that the first Christians were Jews). Exodus 33:19 in context is God telling Moses that He will have mercy on whom He has mercy. This doesn’t mean He shows mercy to some and withholds merch from others, but rather that God is able to show mercy even to people who prove unworthy of mercy. Therefore, after Israel sinned with the golden calf, God reveals the riches of His mercy toward Israel. John 15:16 is literally about Christ choosing His apostles for service, not for individual salvation. Normally students chose their teachers in the ancient world, but this time, Christ whom is the master chose His disciples to be apostles.
@@tommasolombardi3520 this is what happens when you eisegete Scripture and take one verse in isolation to the Bible as a whole, and you use it as a proof text. None of those verses you typed up prove that God predetermined who gets saved and who doesn’t get saved. The reality is that God desires for all men to be saved just as 1 Timothy 2:4 says. God cannot desire for all people to be saved if He predetermined who gets saved and who goes to hell.
What a shame he was doing so good but then he forgot on page two what he just said on page one. The process of predestination and election is not based off of what man will choose. For those he forew he also predestined the word there does not mean those whom he knew would choose.... It means to know intimately in the Greek as in the way Adam knew his wife Eve when they conceived a child. So all those whom God knew intimately beforehand and chose beforehand and predestined beforehand would be conformed to the image of Christ. You cannot make a sovereign choice based off of someone else's choice because then the other individual becomes the sovereign chooser and you become secondary. Unfortunately this is the flat-out denial of the doctrine of election not the correct teaching of it. I would suggest for you individuals who believe this is the correct teaching to look at Dr RC sproul, Dr John MacArthur, Dr Voddie Baucham, Charles spurgeon, Jonathan edwards, John calvin, John owen, Martin Luther, Augustine, and every other Puritan on this Doctrine. Jesus said I do not pray for the world I pray for the ones that the father has given me. The father had given them to him past tense before the foundation of the world not for anything they had done for they were not yet born for as it is written Jacob I have loved and Esau I have hated not for anything they had done for neither one were born yet and had neither done good or evil. God's sovereign decision is based off of the council of his Goodwill not based off of what he foresaw man would do
Reading a couple rc sproul and John MacArthur books doesn’t mean you have the correct view of election. In context every verse referencing election is referring to people who are already in Christ. “Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge of the truth which is according to godliness,” Titus 1:1 NASB1995 a non believer doesn’t have the “faith of those chosen of God”. As a matter of fact a nonbeliever doesn’t have faith at all. Tony Evans has the correct view on election.
@Marvin, I agree. God did not say he would offer to certain ones, but saved certain ones. This cola example is so lacking. Romans 9:14-15 (NASB) What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
