Drag Race's Cursed Placement 

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Being robbed in Drag Race is a blessing. The fandom will love you and that translates into a better career. Most of the cursed/robbed queens would have never won their seasons (with the exception of probably Ongina and MAYBE Katya, at least Violet thinks so)

I also think Miz Cracker deserved to go home in 5th place but that challenge was so disturbing overall, I don't think making people face their trauma and open up about them in front of the camera is not the greatest idea of a challenge but oh well, that's drag race they do that literally every single episode while doing their makeup. Also, RuPaul really needs those Emmy's I guess.

I still think it's crazy how to this day people will blame the contestants instead of production for Queens going home too soon like Katya's situation for example she knew it was her time. On that episode of Untucked she told Kennedy she wish she could just sit there and watch Kennedy perform but she knew she had a job to do. It's great thinking of theories and "what ifs" but childish hate isn't lol

hearing you say "Trinity K Bonet one of the most beloved queens" is just crazy because after season 6 I feel she got a lot of hate, I always said she was an amazing queen, it's so good to see her finally get that recognition by the fandom

Vanessa so quickly losing such a loyal and an enormous following was an absolute shock to me. All we had heard the season prior was she had to come back and once she did and was critiqued so harshly the fandom proved how very fickle they are. I still can't get over watching the judges pick her apart while silky slid into fourth place. I don't think Vanessa got any credit for how big a part she played in her season. I'm sure production encouraged their relationship with Brooklyn which was a real distraction but great for TV.

I mean i wouldn't really count this "curse" as a bad thing neccessarily. Going home towards the finale is tough when thinking about the competition, but if you did somewhat well in the competition before and get a likeable edit, you're basically guaranteed a dedicated following

Talking about cursed placements, no queen has walked into the werkroom first in 13 seasons of the original Drag Race and won.

The curse is just like the move Destiny Bond: it isn't just pernicious to the eliminated queen, it also causes a fair share of damage to the (reputation of the) queens who sends them home.

from a storytelling point: it’s genius from an ethical point: it’s garbage

I think Jackie still has the curse in a unique way. Because Sh*rry P*e is what caused her to not be in the top 4, even though she was disqualified. Many fans called for her to be in the finale after she was eliminated, both because of that and the fact that even though she did better in the penultimate episode, both in the challenge and lipsync, she was put in the bottom and sent home because of "track record". This + the disqualified queen being favored and bumping Jackie down I think gives her the 5th place curse as well

The funniest thing about Katya coming in 5th is she made a bad outfit and someone was like "You can do better, you can sew, why don't you start over?" And Kayta's response was she didn't want to. Kayta's laziness is the cause of all of that drama!

Most of these gals are fan favorites, probably because leaving before the final 4 (or 3) gives opportunity for us to view them as "robbed," which is always a reputation win with this fanbase.

Can someone explain to me how Derrick was the villain? Maybe I should rewatch s8 but I remember seeing her as the victim everyone was constantly putting down and criticizing. I feel like I watched a different show.

You should do a video analyzing every queens placement in the entrance episodes to see if there’s any coincidences in elimination order, or even just the winning queens not EVERY queen Hahahha

You NEED to watch dr spain if you have some time! now, i wouldn't say the 5th place curse was there, but (not to spoil) the queen who ended up 5th had probably the best and most complex character developments of any season ever and the episode of her elimination (ep6) i consider one of the greatest episodes of drag race of all time (9.3 on imdb, if it says something)

I actually think that Blu Hydrangea was one of the most recent / prominent "5th place curse" victims where she had an okay ish to bad commercial and a stellar runway and was put in the bottom while Baga Chipz had a bad commercial and a horrendous runway and was pretty much safed because she didn't knew the words to the lip sync Song that week. Even Cheryl said that she shouldve been in the bottom next episode. Baga was basically safed of elimination as the producers knew she hadn't had a Chance of surviving the lip sync against Cheryl lip syncing to a Cheryl song. Plus Blu could've easily won the makeover challenge that was in the next episode and would've given her 2 wins and 1 bottom position. But maybe that's only me...

“People liked Alyssa a bit more” why tho ? She literally bullied Coco all season long for something that was fully out of her control. It’s the racism for me. (racism from the fan base not Alyssa.)

Season 14: what if there is no 5th place?

Thailand Season 1 - Amadiva, though I don't remember if that seemed cursed Thailand Season 2 - THIS ONE is a prime example - Tormai literally WON the Snatch Game then that very same episode was sent home in 5th place based on runway, only for Kana and Kandy to be brought back, bumping her down to 7th. Vanda and Bandit were then sent home in a double sashay 4/5th place, missing out of the final and allowing the 2 returned queens into the top 3. Holland Season 2 - 5th place got sent home instead of a queen who should've been disqualified (since it streamed so recently, not gonna spoiler it) Espana - Dovima stood there during the lip sync and sent herself home in 5th place.

In regards to Thailand: Thailand 1 didn't have a single 5th place queen since it was a double elimination, but Amadiva and JAJA weren't robbed, they did the worst in the challenge and gave a mediocre performance to one of the most monumental lipsync songs on the show. Thailand 2, The original 5th place queen, Tormai, was robbed to hell and back. When the co-host says that they shouldn't have gone home you know someone fucked up. As for 5th/4th Vanda and Bandit, I'd argue they were robbed by Kana and Kandy being brought back for no reason. Also Bandit shouldn't have had to lipsync and Vanda totally won that lipsync so double robbed.

Dovima was the 5th place of Espana, and yes she lost the lipsync, but she didn't deserve to be in that bottom.

Of all the names mentioned, as for earlier seasons, all are like 'be saved to be brought back for ratings but still didnt win even they've shown they deserve to win (based on performance)'. The only one I respect is Bendela, she eliminate herself because she maybe already knew she wouldn't win. But regardless, we all knew she already won (with 4 top 2s in the first 4 episodes, with 2 wins). Those mentioned, most already were back for All Stars, and didnt win, right?

shannon sckarlet from drag race brasil season one is tyhe fan favorit and she is also in fifith place

I'm curious what production was pushing for with AS3 before Dela chose to leave, though with the voting a lot was still in the hands of the other queens.

On season 12, when you leave out you know who, Heidi would’ve been 5th place and honestly that might be the ~cuuuurseee~

when you meant cursed i thought you meant how none of them have won all stars 😭

and in the thailand seasons both 5th place spots are both double elims and especially for season 2 cuz Bandit and Vanda would have been the final 3 if kandy and kana never came back. and for thailand season 1 they both had been entertaining but flopped the lip sync. so it is there too

I feel like the curse couldve worked for season 12 if we dont count Sherry pie. Which means Heidi wouldve been 5th place. She didnt deserve to be in the bottom.

8th place curse Monique Heart (S10) and Plastique Tiara (S11)... I can see it.

I love both Darienne & DeLa

S12 is actually a case of 5th place curse. If it wasn't for Shitty Pie, Jackie would've get into the top4 but as we know she wasn't and got 5th place. Let me know what you think of it

So what you're saying is that the producers are edging us

In fairness Darien did better in both lip syncs

DEREK BERRY IS CAMP!!

What the F-woRd

Omg I remember Alexis Michelle yelling at everyone "why did no one tell me my outfit was pedestrian!?" 💀💀 like girl this is a competition

I don’t care what the official placements say, if a queen comes back and sashays the exact same episode, then I don’t count them as taking that placement. So for me Shangela and DiDa are still Top 5, they earned it. On the other hand, Trixie gets Top 6 and Naysha Top 9, since they managed to stay more than one episode.

It's no coincidence that a lot of Miss Congenialities/Fan Favorites are around 4th-7th place. They're only a few episodes away from the finale, so they basically stay the whole season and you get to know them and love them. Being eliminated so close to the finale helps their brand; I would say that a "robbed queen" in some cases is more loved than the actual winner of the season. It's also worth noting that aside from Nina Flowers, no finalist has won Miss C (i guess it's an unofficial rule) so fan favorites being eliminated so close to the finale at least gives them a higher chance for that consolation prize

I would consider Jackie and Olivia fan favorites, but why it doesn’t feel that shocking was that at that point in the competition it was time for them to go. Also if you look at the shift from the 5th Place curse to the 8th Place course from season 9 to season 10, it pretty interesting because after that victims of the 8th Place curse are Monique Heart, Plastique Tiara, Jan, and Denali.

Nothing has hurt me more than watching Trinity lose that Top 4 spot 😭 Also, Elektra Shock may be the most robbed queen in all the franchises and in the history of the show.

Fun "facts": both BenDeLaCreme and Katya were eliminated in the Ball Challenge, placed 5th, won Miss Congeniality, had two wins and had lipsynced one time before being eliminated;

Heidi is top 5 of season 12 now, so it definitely was in place there

The fact that every single American girl has been back in some way shape or form accept Dida Ritz is sad. Dida should’ve beeeeeen on allstars.

Well, if you count Jackie as "Top 4", then the 5th place Queen is Heidi.

So 5th is the Fan Favorite placement And 8th is the Pretty Girl placement: Jade J, Farrah, Plastique, Jan, and Mariah.

I mean, Katya's elimination was the biggest shock ever. Before that episode, she did have the best ppe score of all contestants, and even Violet said that she was glad Ru eliminated her, otherwise, she would have probably won. Ru literally did this whole fake-out thing at the finale when everyone and their mama for a hot second thought that Ru decided to crown her despite the elimination.

Love how from s4 to s7 the 5th placing curse queens were all taken out by the 4th placing queen (Kenya/Dida and Latrice, Coco and Detox, Dela and Darriene And Katya and Kennedy) Also Miss Detox striking on both ths 5th places on her 2 seasons is hilarious to me. Also it being both Alyssa and Coco Also also. I feel like Blu was one of the biggest 5th placing curses, Fan Favourite, Was in the bottom 2 to save a production's Favourite, Went against Cheryl to Cheryl in front of Cheryl. she litterally had no chance of staying. Also ends up being miss c

I think BendalaCreme was a genius to vote herself out on AS, they were definitely preparing her for a 'shocking' elimination anyway, there was absolutely no chance she would win. She played the producers and now she can say "Well, I was the 'real winner' look at how well I did" -- She won without really winning.

i just realized that none of the robbed 5th place queens that have gone on to compete on all stars ending up winning Pandora- first out on as1, 6th on as6 Shangela- 3rd/4th on as3 Dela- 6th on as3(would have won had she not eliminated herself) Katya- 2nd/3rd on as2 Cracker- 2nd/3rd on as5

I don’t think Denali was supposed to get a robbed edit, I think the producers just genuinely didn’t expect the fanbase to like her so much. To me, it felt like they were setting her up with the “trying too hard and then getting eliminated” storyline, sort of like they did with Rock M Sakura the season before. I think we just naturally gravitate towards driven people and since they showed Denali’s determination throughout the season, we couldn’t help but like her.

it is just a normal stunt on reality tv shows. the elimination prior to getting to the finale is used to cause controversy and stur things up so the hype can increase in the finale

thank you for acknowledging that Shangela and Dida are the true 5th place on their seasons, this is the absolute truth and anything else is blatant fake news.

the way Holland 2 just gave us Tabitha who went over someone who broke the rules…

Clicked as fast as the AS6 queens voted for Serena

heidi is now technically fifth after sherry was disqualified… miss congeniality. fan favourite. fifth place curse

Maybe the plan on season 9 was to make Valentina place 5th, if she Knew the words she would have stayed over Nina Bonina Brown and probably get cut at top 5

YES GIVING US THE CONTENT WE NEED

I think specially with the ones where there was a top 4 and viewers votes, the fifth place is the one when the producers are afraid of the popular vote, Vanjie, Katya, Della, Cracker all of them I think will have an overwhelming popular vote on social media and it would look worst for Ru if she selected other queen, even if Vanjie was not the most polished queen, everyone will vote to crown her, at least I think this is the fear

I want to see Derrick get a fair shot on all stars, I get that her elimination in all stars 5 was fair but she didn’t get to show anything

Wow denali and Jan had the same pose in the promo too

Omggg Dida Ritz future all stars winner YES I LOVE DIDA. It is bizarre how we have the same exact taste in drag race

I was the most angry at A'Whora getting sent home after just coming off her second win and first time in the bottom meanwhile it was Tayce 3rd time in the bottom with only one win. I was routing for A'Whora to win I actually screamed at my TV when she got sent home 😂

The top 5 curse would probably apply to Drag Race Thailand too. Not really season 1, but season 2 is interesting to look at. In season 2, they did snatch game when there were 5 queens left. Because of how the main challenge and the runway are judged separately, the queen Tormai ended up winning snatch game, but ended up getting eliminated the same episode. Tormai wasn't particularly a fan favorite, but the way she was eliminated despite winning the challenge was an interesting twist. She was technically the 5th placing queen... BUT right after Tormai sashayed away, the judges suddenly brought two queens back into the competition. So it went from a Top 4 back to a Top 6. They did one more competitive episode, eliminated another queen, and it went back to the Top 5. Then at the top 5, it was suddenly time to decide who would be the 3 to make it to the finale, meaning two queens would be eliminated simultaneously... and two of the queens that ended up making it to the finale were actually both of the returning queens. This upsetted a lot of the fans because the two simultaneously eliminated queens (Bandit & Vanda Miss Joaquim) would have technically been the real top 3 if the returning queens weren't brought back into the competition. Bandit was a fashion queen who brought it every runway and was pretty much "high" the whole competition while Vanda Miss Joaquim was a non-thai queen who brought a unique perspective to the competition while embracing Thai culture and people fell in love with her. Now they share the 4th/5th eliminated queen title. A lot of people thought they were robbed since they slayed the whole competition. It was very much similarly to how Trinity K Bonet made it to top 4, but it was taken away from her last minute because Eureka was brought back. However unlike Eureka who was brought back immediately, these returning queens were missing from 2~3 episodes, so it was extra gagworthy that the returning queens made it to the finale. So Bandit & Vanda kinda share the 5th place curse. Fans who watched Drag Race Thailand 2 usually hope that either one of these queens will appear on an international all stars season, especially because both of them also speak English.

I wish I was in the timeline where the 5th place curse struck in s13 and took out Rosé. Oh I would've loved to see twitter and ig lose their shit 🤣

Bendelacreme confirmed ghost type

Can we please get "the Riggory of Canada's Drag race?" Season 2 is a month away!

Drag Detective: I have to wait for s14 to see if the producers noticed we know about the 5th place curse The Producers on season 14: here's a top 5 everyone

You should watch Drag Race España - it is one of the best seasons in Drag Race herstory - and Drag Race Thailand is great as well - especially the runways which along with Drag Race Holland and Season 13 are vastly superior to other seasons.

5th place on s13 was cursed, the acting challenge was made to either save Symone,Kandy and Gottmik and set up to eliminate Liv. Both s11 and s12 had a music video for the top 5 and s13 somehow didn't , (hence why LUCKY has 5 words) knowing Olivia would slay that thing,and knowing that Symone,Kandy and Gottmik flopped on recent dancing/performing challenges (on the Rusical and Condragulations) production wouldn't want to risk losing them. Thats why the acting challenge was shitty, it seemed rushed and I guess that's why they chose roles related to the queens.

The 6th one to go is a curse as well since Season 10, controversial eliminations. S10 Blair (same episode she told her story), Scarlet Envy S11, Jan S12, Denali S13.

it happens again on España s1 when Hugaceo Crujiente, who won the first challenge, got eliminated

I will never understand people who hate a queen for sending home their favorite in a lip sync, it literally baffles me.. The "disliked" queen is just doing exactly what she is supposed to do by slaying the lipsync and fighting!! Did i love kennedy in season 7? Not really. Was it HER fault katya went home? No!! Katya landed in the bottom fair and square. And even if you want to argue if a bottom 2 placement of a fan fav is fair or not, it's STILL not the other queen's fault, it's production who placed them in the bottom.

I would LOVE to see a video about Drag Race España

After finishing Canada 3 I can say I believe in the curse - I love love loved Vivian 😭😭

I mean 5th place basically means you were either the last person to go home before the final or second to last. It's always gonna seem cursed cuz anyone who makes it that far has had enough screen time to endear themselves to a lot of people and will also gain bonus audience sympathy for appearing to fall at the final hurdle essentially.

It's a good theory, but I would take out some other situations out of this "curse". I think we need to discuss what the curse does. Does it eliminate a fan favorite? Mostly yes. Although, some of them were not because of a curse, but rather than they got fairly eliminated. I consider Coco, Derrick and Vanjie was not part of this curse whatsoever. Not because they weren't fan favorites, but because they did poorly on their seasons (they were in the bottom or near-bottom almost all the time).

This is so funny, I remember rooting for almost all of the 5th place queens lmao

As the Viviane said, If I don’t when I wanna come in fifth place because that’s we’re all the big names are if you don’t win

Def need a zombie themed runway//challenge with this thumbnail 🤣

8th place curse kinda applies to Valentina too

I would add Olivia Lux cause she won 2 challanges and also was in top 2 in the winner's circle, and she so sweet and lovely, and I do agree that she deserved to be in the bottom as well as kandy cause the critics are correct they have been doing same characters again and again , but what wasn't fair is that symone who'd literally done the same things in every single challenge as well as that one , somehow got the win for that week , I know symone was favored all season long and it was obvious they are giving her the win for social, political reasons but it was still a stinky moment

At least Ru made a nod to the fact that Katya should have been top three in the finale. Only time she's ever acknowledged making a mistake. I thought Katya placed fourth, actually :/ who was fourth then?

juriji der klee is the most recent victim of the 5th place curse (España 2)

Just watched this post season 14 of course ✨ jasmine kennedie is 8th! On a lipsync smack down after killing all her lipsyncs, becoming untucked royalty and the growth! Omg!!

The worst thing you can be on drag race is the girl who sends the fan favorite home. Like there is no coming back from that, and it sucks.

I think they sent home Bendelacreme when they did in season 6 because you couldn't have the "terminally delightful" queen up against Bianca because Bianca had a better track record and was a shoo-in. Bianca is the only queen whom with every moment on screen I thought "okay she's winning this season". (Plus Bianca was Dela's antithesis, except I didn't see another side to Dela -- she was nice to the core. Bianca was kind, so we didn't see her as the season's witch.) So Dela lost that season and later when she self-eliminated in AS3 I think solidified that she is in a league of her own (through relentless kindness, which is now her thing). And I do feel bad for Darienne. Her comedy just comes off as mean where Bianca's is just sarcastic.

I would also add Vanda Miss Joaquim and Bandit of the second season of drag race Thailand, their both got eliminated before the finale, placed fifth place and the fans considered them robbed especially because two queens who got eliminated and brought back in the competition

Elektra Shock is the worst ever case of this, she was literally the best queen we've ever seen on any season of the show, we stan hard.

I think Blu fits the curse. Won a challenge then gets sent home by Cheryl who was doing the worst in the competition up to that point. Blu deserved a top 4 placement.

This reawakens the hurt I thought I've healed over and sidenote Jackie is so amazing love her

It’s not cursed it’s the icon placement

For me TKB is the ultimate 5th place curse. That top 4 spot was literally taken from her by force. For some weird reason the entire cast decided it was her time to go even though she was doing well in the competition and perfomed well in that challenge as well.

in katya's case, the curse is on kennedy because of unwarranted fandom backlash

Crazy how a lot of these queens are some of the most popular queens in the fandom

Well there goes 22 minutes and 38 seconds I’ll never get back….

WATCH DRAG RACE ESPAÑA ITS *SO* GOOD

Will you be covering dragula s4 in october?

it's super understandable why the fifth queen eliminated is usually some beloved queen. top fives are usually filled with queens who the fans like/love.