@@SeventhheavenDK How do you know he is not affected? He has one scene if he is king. Do you expect him to appear in Redcliffe like "Hi Herold, nice to met you. Mages get the fuck off my kingdom. Oh and by the way, i just started to hear the calling."
@Lucy Vakarian Actually they do. Back in Origins Riordan immediately recognized Alistair and the hero as wardens, though they didn't had anything that showed they are wardens. Wardens have the taint and are able to feel the taint in anything that bears it
Yes. If Loghain is spared Alistair will always try to leave but Anora will stop him and either execute him if the Warden doesn't interfere or exile him so he can pose no threat to her claim to the throne.
Blackwall: "Oh yeah, him! Totally stand up guy, that Duncan. I remember he was always drinking..." Alistair: "Beer?" Blackwall: "Yeah, beer, that was it! Always with the beer."
I can't believe that Alistair/Stroud and the other Wardens couldn't tell he wasn't a real Warden. They can sense the blight so they should have been able to detect that he wasn't blighted. I big hole in that plot point, but whatever, great fucking game either way!
Radix Malorum Celibate? Who said anything about Grey Wardens being celibate? and he already had the shortened lifespan, making him king doesn't change that. I also get the feeling him and Anora aren't on the best of terms
***** Being forced to have sex with someone you can't stand wouldn't improve the relationship. If anything it would probably make it worse. I wouldn't be surprised if he chose to have a son through a mistress rather then through Anora. Sure the people wouldn't like the idea of having another bastard for a ruler but I doubt Alistair would give a damn. He may respect Anora as a ruler, but as people the two couldn't hate each other any more then they already do.
"Yes that was me, war, betrayal, darkspawn, lots of fun! It made for excellent stories I'm sure. Nobody cares about that anymore" Oh Alistair you fool, of course we still care, we wanna know where the Hero of Ferelden is!
@@louis8487 . I have to point out that the Exiled Alistair in Inquisition is not Drunken Alistair, as is not possible for that Alistair to appear in the game. Exiled Alistair in Inquisition is the result of killing Loghain, Alístair remains a Warden, doing the Dark Ritual, and the Warden marries Anora (tho, I think this last one is not necessary). According to this, once Anora becomes Queen of Ferelden and after the battle with the Archdemon, Anora exiles Alistair.
excellentes I could sacrifice them if.. Alistair wasn't with my Warden, and Hawk with Anders xD I can't end up a relationship with a death Dx Loghain isn't an option to me.. because Alistair is still there and I can't let him leave just to keep an ass xD
Shizuka Yazawa their just too good to be sacrificed, tho i think with their fighting skills they have higher chance of surviving compared to loghain or stroud
I thought you may be interested to know that there is a DA:I wiki entry which references a codex entry to the exiled Alister - who apparently in the end comes back to Ferelden, sobers up, rejoins the wardens and heads for Orlais - I don't know if this the same background but he would probably be similar in a save where the warden exiles Alister and Logain makes the ultimate sacrifice killing the Archdemon.
Yo Blackwall, bit of friendly advice bud. Whenever possible as little info as possible, that way you don't need to pull out some crap about not fearing the calling
Blackwall: I don’t fear the calling. Yeah cuz your no warden, jackass. Side note, when you say Exiled Alistair do you mean when he becomes a drunk in the second game? He comes back from the mess?
Should have put a ring on him, and a crown, the king and warden queen will be separated throughout Inquisition, but at least he won't be exiled to dank caves, succumbing to the calling as his comrades consider him a traitor... Possibly having to sacrifice him. *shudder*, thank the maker for Stroud.
+KakashiFNGRL Screw that. When Alistair gave me the choice between him or Loghain, I kicked him to the curb. My pragmatic dwarf noble was having none of his shit with a damn Blight going on. Let him becoming a wandering drunk if he's willing to let innocent people die to the Darkspawn because of vengeance. Between him and a seasoned warrior, Lady Aeducan chooses Loghain.
+ItoFumika Logain is way worse than Alistair he betrayed everyone and killed the grey wardens especially Duncan who was like his family, and not only that he has participated in selling elves to slavery, your playing as a character as a game this doesn't have to much impact on you, but in real life ask this type of question would you work with somebody who killed everyone you loved? Then frame you for the deed and tried to assassinate you? Can you be able to do this resist the urge to kill the person who caused you so much pain? I sure couldn't I wouldn't like my loved ones murderer walk free.
Phoenixfireheart Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with you wholeheartedly that Loghain did WAY worse things than Alistair walking off, and I can completely understand why Alistair felt like he just couldn't work with Loghain. Could I myself have still worked with Loghain if I had been in Alistair's shoes? If I'm being entirely honest here, I'm not sure if I'd have the strength to do it, but I HOPE that I would ultimately be willing to place the world's survival over my own personal feelings, however justified they may be. And to be fair, Loghain wasn't exactly just walking free. He's already hated by the country he's poured his entire life into protecting, and then on top of that he gets to join the Wardens, which is essentially just a slower death sentence.
Gosh, I love him. Also his explanation made a lot more sense to me than Stroud's. Do they have the same dialogue or is it different? Maybe I just wasn't paying attention to Stroud.
This scene is exactly why I had my Cousland and Alistair reign Ferelden, I felt something sad would happen if they did not. Glad my Hawke is still hooked up with Anders too! Now, off to make Cullen and Lavellan start their own clan!
Haha I romanced Cullen too! Go team Cullen! The choice between Alistair and Hawke was freaking hard! I had come to far with Alistair though so I left Hawke behind. I had romanced Fenris so if he appears in another game down the line I am sure he will be ultra broody.
"He walked a dark path." I wonder what triggers that comment. The Warden must have done the ritual with Morrigan for both him and Alistair to be alive, but there are far worse things that the Warden could have done. Defiling the Sacred Ashes, killing Leliana and Wynne, siding with Branka, allying with the werewolves and massacring the Dalish, killing all the mages at the Circle Tower, stabbing all stabbable NPCs with the murder knife...
Or, as opposed to killing Leliana, refused to take her along twice and when Alistair objected by saying she looks more like "Ooh, pretty colours" than "Muahaha! I am Princess Stabbity! Stab, kill, kill!", responded with "Don't make me stab-kill *you*. She's not coming." ...he'd never live that down :'(
I imagine the Hero realizing that being a Warden isn’t sunshine and rainbows somewhere down the line. And decided to do whatever means necessary to save the world. Even if it means becoming no better than the darkspawn.
The way he says "Tevinter ritual tower" is a nice detail. Because that is exactly what Ostagar was. This must be a really uncomfortable similarity, and depending on how it ends, a fateful one.
"If all the Wardens die, who will stop the next Blight?" This question is why my Dalish Inquisitor Revan Lavellan spared the Wardens at Adamant. He didn't pardon them out of forgiveness. He pardoned them because it was the most pragmatic thing to do. He wanted to banish them with every fibre of his being, but considered the consequences of this particular choice by trying to look ahead to the next Blight. If he banished the Wardens, Southern Thedas would fall to the Darkspawn.
Thanks to Dragon Age Keep I tried this and u about cried at how Alistair acted. He's so tired and bitter compared to my Alibear...(which I romanced in DAO). Why would anyone want this for such a happy man?
I still think it is better then him being King. Unless you and the warden became king and queen together. I would of romanced Alistair but I didn't know there was romance in Origins until like half way through haha. I was playing as a male Dalish elf. I had made a couple female characters and they looked horrible then I made a male elf and he didn't look horrible so I said fk it and played the game with him lol
@@Violana I think that Alistair would make a great King, especially without Anora controlling him, maybe with the female Warden as Queen/Queen-Consort. Maybe it's not what he wants at the Moment in this part of his life, but he is the King that Ferelden needs.
I hate this. I just can't kill Hawke, so I'll make him king, but then he's all tough stuff and you don't really talk to him, or hear him say anything about your warden if you romanced him. BUT, here he'll talk about the warden, and is good ol' Alistair... but Hawke dies and I can't, especially cause I chose Fenris, can't do that to him. Ohmygosh I haaaate this.
Let me get this straight, you labeled your video exiled Alistair, so you exiled him in Origins, which would make him a drunk, so why is he a Warden in place of Stroud?
He is like a roach, I swear. No matter what you do, he's still going to come creeping back. I would not have been surprised if there weren't some "executed Alistair" reacharound. What really got me is that he went to Kirkwall to try to get Hawke to negotiate things with the Empress, and *years* later, he is now trying to get the Inquisitor to do it for him. He never quite grasped the ability to do jobs himself.
So he was exiled to Orlais? I never kept him as Grey Warden in any of my playthroughs, he was always king, drunk, or executed lol. Why would they exile him wtf and now he listens to Clarel smh. Would've been better if he could've stayed in Ferelden taking orders from the Warden-Commander (if they lived).
If I had to guess, Anora would still consider him a threat even if he renounced his claim to the throne, which he didn't in the one playthrough you kept him alive and uncrowned. Exiling him was probably the most peaceful way to get him out of the picture without a fuss or nobles/people rallying to him.
I'm confused. I thought if Alistair is exiled in Origins, he leaves your party and the Grey Wardens after the Landsmeet and doesn't go on to fight the Archdemon. So how can he now be a Grey Warden again (did he rejoin?) and why are they talking about him fighting the Archdemon? (Is it an oversight from Bioware?)
And just because he hasn't faced the archdemon himself doesn't mean he didn't fight the archdemon, like, you guys lead a whole campaign against him over a year to things change over the last week
Since everyone is arguing about that in the comments: I found it pretty easy to decide whom to let stay behind in the fade: with Alistair Hawke, because i never connected with him/her as a character...and it seems like the heroic thing they would do with Stroud Stroud because who gives a shit about Stroud with Loghain Loghain because he deserves to finally rest. I mean thats my argumentation for why I kill him in Origins, but yeah, works here aswell.
I got Stroud. And I leave Hawke behind in the fade. Why? Precisely because.of what you said. Stroud is a nobody, so I found more epic to the story leaving the Champion behind.
The decision on who to leave in the fade was easy for me tbh. Alistair who’s life span is already nearly at an end anyway, as is the hero or fereldens. Whereas Hawke still has a life to lead with their LI. Plus am surprised, you didn’t connect with Hawke. His story has more tragedy than the hero of fereldens. Lost his father, lost his first sibling, then his mother to the very thing he is (if he’s a mage) the only people he has by his side all those years is Varric. So biggest question is: why choose someone who has less life span than the other? Plus in the inquisitors mind, they’ve known Hawke longer
Something I am wondering, if Corpypheus has the same power as an Archdemon, if he dies near a Warden, wouldn't his spirit do the same thing as the Archdemon's and enter the Warden's body, destroying both of them?
he unlocked the ability to rebuild himself in the body of another who contains the blight later in the game you see him using blood magic controlled wardens as a personal bodyguard so if he dies he can just come back
This is also how Corypheus survives the battle with Hawke in DA2: Legacy. A Grey Warden who has already gone on his Calling is in the prison and helps Hawke get to Corypheus, when Hawke kills Corypheus, Corypheus takes over the body of the Warden. This is referenced in a conversation that you have with... I forget who, but they mention the Warden was a mage and Varric says "Uh-oh. He wasn't a mage when I met him."
Blackwall was my favorite companion in Inquisition, I grew very attached to him and his backstory and I always had him in my party. But after I found out that he had been lying about everything and that he wasn't really a warden, I absolutely hated him. It doesn't matter how good his intentions were, the things he said and did was unforgivable. I remember feeling so betrayed when I found out the truth about him that I lost all my respect for him and stopped using him all together.
hey, sorry, I got a question. Does your hawke automatically look similar to the one you created in DA II or how does that work? I played DA:I first and then bought the other games. Just started to play DA:I again with an imported world state but I'm afraid my Hawke will just look like Standard Hawke..
Hey there, I don't believe you can import your Hawke unless they changed that. Right before you meet the character in game they bring up the character creation so you can design your Hawke to look like the hawke your created. When using the keep make sure your world has your Hawke set to the correct gender! If it is set to Hawke was a male but they were a female in your game you will be designing a male character!
+Jumeaux Elaine mine bugged out, my warden married Anora, Alistair killed Loghain and remained a warden but I had Stroud and Alistair was referred to as king Alistair when my Warden was Prince Consort of Ferelden
+HarlequinnNova Maybe you failed to upload your custom world state. The default state have Alistair as king, meaning Stroud will be the Warden you meet in Crestwood.
AdelioNightstorm no it uploaded cause all my choices and stuff were there, in the bio for the Hero of Ferelden it refers to him as Prince Consort of Ferelden but everybody calls Alistair the king
You're welcome ^^. No you're not crazy haha, the insignia isn't really obvious to see x). Plus the fact that if Blackwall was a true warden Alistair could have sensed him could have been a funny scene x). " *sniff* You a warden? - *sniff back* you too? - *brohug Blackwall/Alistair* " XD
He looks like a shell of who he used to be and I despised that joke about village girls, it also comes to mind City elf's origin story that comes quite close to that "joke" which was a nightmare for that warden. Disgusting. Not my Ally :/
+Luiz Antonio Alistair is a Fereldan warden as far as I know. Though how strong that order is I don't know. Either way, the wardens are all led by the Warden-Commander, who at this point is from Orlais.
I'm surprised they didn't make Alistair look different in the 3rd game? Like maybe giving him a beard. I mean it's been what 10 - 12 years in game time? So why not have his appearance change?
