I was literally foaming at the mouth for the CMZ zenkai for the LONGEST. He was my first LF 14 star and then I maxed arts boosted him waiting for his zenkai. He's an absolute unit!
You can still use them. Just because they're not top 10 units does not mean they're not usable, use whoever you want. I use them with the green broly on powerful opponent and it's pretty good
@@JanusGreenway relevant is different from person to person. Some people only define relevant as must be top 5, some people think ultra gogeta blue is relevant, some don't. I'm not gonna go into "relevant" because that's too vague and too opinionated to use as a point in any argument
Exactly, good isn't good enough against Gohan, *especially* type disadvantage. Godku was a long anticipated unit, and I don't think his kit is bad or even mid by any means, but idk, something like around the level of Ultra UI would be good enough.
@@teamxbox4753or maybe they just need to stop releasing units that belong on the same tag back to back? Maybe a 3 month break between every son family release would fix that issue?
Green Kid Gohan deserves C tier and should have made at least an honorable mention to red beast. He pairs extemely well with UL and Ultimate Gohan, lots of support, team heals, combo extension, blast and strike cover changes, sub count manipulation, unbelievable equips, vanish restoration, blue and green card generation, arts power down, buff and vanish removal. Been playing at BR60+ with these three and it really is Gohan Ball Legends.
I've been maining UL Gohan, Ult Gohan, and red Beast gohan myself and it's ridiculous. I usually like to Main my fusions but Gohan Ball Legends is just too powerful
In future, I'd advise not to try keep it so neat. 3 per tier made the tier list semi flawed in my opinion. (intentional or not idk) e.g., if all tiers are inter-changeable, with your logic you'd be fine with FGB at the end of the tier and UUI at the top of his tier and that would imply UUI is 4 places ahead of FGB which I think if you ordered it you'd agree is not true. Just some insight for future reference. Also, you complained about Blast Break from ULTRA Gohan. Ironically, FGB has Blast Nullification on his blue cards every time which literally solves your problem. (Reacted to this on stream, good video)
Ah yes cause you always have a blue card. If he had it on normal strikes then sure, but a blue from him isn’t one-shotting an ultra Gohan unless there is a gigantic star difference.
im glad FGB nullifies his blast break, thats great for him Unfortunately it doesn’t stop it from being an annoying mechanic, hitting literally anyone else on your team or even hitting FGB pre fusion.
@@rayyanjamil6966Blud is delulu💀first of all, he can force draw one, so that’s that. Second of all, Gogeta can have the hardest hitting Blue itg with gauge pop
A way they couldve fixed Gogeta blue is give him the vegetio blue mechanic where for every strike used he drew a strike card and recovered 10 ki on strike hit. Boom instantly 10x better
I lose the mental battle against ultra gohan, too many mechanics to prevent him getting touched with the ki reduction, counter gauge, counter blue card, aoe green, endurance, and armor break
Half the battle is trying to not throw your phone after out playing a Gohan player and getting shit on with armor break, the most OP green, and a counter
I'm surprised no revival kid gohan zenkai with how much regen has seen a glow up with the zenkai kid buu and zamasu. 40% damage and just providing decent disrupt on cover and revive bring immense value. Regen is real
@@KaizerHZI mean sure the best of the best are son fam, but God Ki, Majin Buu Saga, Regen, Powerful Op, Movies, GT, Fusion Warrior, Frieza Force to an extent, all are Viable and can get you to the top with enough luck and skill.
@@KaizerHZI think by "Diverse" he meant different units. For example, Evil Buu, Beerus, Frieza, Super 17, Broly, Zamasu, Nappa and Vegeta, Pikkon, etc. All of them are viable. So, I don't think he meant TEAM variety, he probably meant UNIT Variety.
The only way this meta gets disrupted is if the Ultra has non-cancellable endurance null. Everybody might think they want that, but they'll hate it as soon as the celebration ends, thus continuing the endless cycle of giving way too strong solutions to the problems they create
Surprised any of the 1% sparkings arent here mainly shin or evil buu and would definetly put gogeta in S since he is THE anti hybrids unit right now and actualy gained value. Actualy im brave enough to say he is better than ui. His lock in did lost some value because due to new fusions having disrupt which lowers its power quite a bit. So you are better doing consistent combos with gogeta rather than finding that one perfect scenario where ui can kill Also forgot to add. What the hell is gt goku doing here? His "tanking" era is over. Now he is just a punching bag. Rest i agree.
I agree with the 1% sparkings. I've had so many matches where broly just goes on a rampage 💀I understand goresh is looking at this from a perspective of God rank and higher ranks of PVP but these other units are definitely underrated
@@johncoolman destroying green cards is really clutch against ultra gohan, stacking impact resistance as well because a lot of the times you can eat his blue for less than 30% of your health. Also gogeta is current tankiest unit in the game. Also aoe immunity is nice as well. A lot of the times you are actualy better chaining those 5 strikes with gogeta than do a combo with ui
Ssb gogeta is NOT better than baby or ui. Edit: okay good because the crybabies are out in full force. Super baby2 is way better competitively than gogeta blue.
@@habaneropepperprolly cuz CMZ is the 2nd best meta counter next to him, but I don’t understand myself. He should be at least around UI lvl, maybe even UGF
Zenkai'ed corrupted zamasu is the only reason I kept playing while getting shafted by the banners cause he can easily compete with the new characters Even after I finally managed to pull the new characters, the only character that 100% stayed in every team I tried is zamasu
@@nimrodshachar2773 no I’m pretty sure you have to build up to it with his gauge and even that ultra gohan literally eats chain assault so lock it doesnt scare me but other unit maybe and in this day and age you need something to scare other players
@@allroundgamerog6885 gauge just draws a card, then refreshes after using another card and gives him type neutral, chain assault is just for chaining strikes after strikes/blasts with no time in between, the gauge has no effect on how chain assault works
Godku needs a buff. Maybe not a balance change buff but a unique equipment is definitely needed period. Gofrieza was in the SAME spot, they weren't trash but they were in the B teir as a anniversary LF that's a huge no no.
Difference is that the Goku/Frieza unit was the PART 1 HEADLINER. The only banner to release in Part 1 of the 5th anni. People needed a strong character and they weren't good enough. They couldn't just say "oh go summon on Vegito if you want a dominant character" because there were no other banners. Their hand was forced.
@@IchigoKurosaki0715 ik the difference between the two. However they still buffed a anniversary LF and whether they like it or not the next time they dropped a B sub class anniversary LF regardless of context people will call for a buff now that they demonstrated their ability to do so
I don’t really think he needs a buff, gofrieza was borderline unusable pre-buff because of defense glitches and Goku quite literally be a year one sparking unit, godku is usable and pretty solid only problem is that it’s gohans game.
I really think God Goku can carry even better than super Vegito cuz he has alot of ways to restore his vanish the AOE greens that helps u getting priority easily I think these points make him a very good 1V3 character
There actually is a glue character for rev vegeta, you can do a team with him, kid buu, and rev kid gohan, don't forget that gohan gives a 40% damage buff to regen and sayian saga.
Gogeta loses a lot of combo potential from having only strikes when landing a strike or blast and being forced to chain them against a counter unit. Especially considering he has no cover null when fused and with very little time of type neutral. Also his gauge is good but it kind of works against him since characters like S17 and Ultra Vegito Blue have cover null so they can side step or charge steps to draw more cards. Also for some reason his green is forward charging but you cant nullify counter gauges while using it when thats his whole gimmick
C tier: 9:56 that pikkon/gogeta is essentially useless. No value to bring him in a match. For that gogeta and vegito fusing team I would just put ultimate gohan on leader slot along with those guys or even frieza B tier: (first character) there we go with the controversy A tier: no comments S tier: was kinda shocked on the placement of golden frieza Z tier: I hate gohan so much that I don't want to see another gohan until the game dies. Yeah Armor break should not exist☠️ Another thing is that the hardest hitting ultimate in my opinion is that ultimate gohans ult(if you drop combo)
Gogeta downplay is insane. He is top 4 at the least. There is no way you can tell me that UUI, UGF and Zamasu are above him. Gogeta tanks counters most of the meta. Zamasu is the only one who hurts him. Top 3 in my book is Gogeta, Vegito and Ultra rathan(not in order).
In this meta he is just not enough. UGF can nuke anyone, and that includes Gogeta. Zamasu is just dummy broken and can kill Gogeta in 2-4 strike cards. He is not on the same level as Vegito because Vegito's kit is infinitely better. On top of that, both Gohans are broken as well and the Ultimate Gohan has a free drop combo with his ultimate that can ohko Gogeta. UUI isn't used as much but he has a more passive kit which typically works better than super aggressive playstyles.
the only counter for all the unique gauge characters is a UL with a mechanic that can decrease the unique gauge fill up rate or punishes every time for filling up the unique gauge
I am surprised evil buu isn't on here. His defense is actually insane. I think he is a character you think wouldn't be that valuable until you actually use him. If I were to put him in the tier I would say he is A tier
Gohan plain and simple the most broken and frequent unit in PvP directly counters him not to mention godku can be immune to ki reduction there’s just too many ways round his disruption
@@coconuttwee7288 well actually tbf now that I think about it evil buu is as good as he is is actually because he is an absolutely great partner with lf gohan. He covers ultimate gohan biggest weakness which is his bulk. Goresh himself said in the video that the problem with gohan is that he can't really tank super vegito normal combo and I find that evil buu covers that. Put evil buu and ultimate gohan together and you basically can't get rr by super vegito
Glad you pointed out God Goku because here's the problem I have with this game: Everything you just said about God Goku tapping the ability to get a green card, which your opponent can then try to challenge and it does what it does If it connects right. SO WHY TF, does Gohan get all that just by breathing on the screen. Gohan gets to press an ability and the opponent can no longer play the game just cause he exists on the screen. Mind you previous Gohan's also do similar shenanigans. Like when blue Beast Gohan came out, start the match with green card. What does your opponent get to do? Not play? Then there's another Gohan where every time he's on the screen you just lose cards. Then you click that button and then the button is no longer there so it makes you click a different action that you didn't want to do and you then you just lose. That's not power crap. That's just pure trash when it comes to trying to be competitive. The ultra Gogeta and Ultra janemba ability should never had existed either. In what gaming universe are you beating your opponent and then you lose because you're winning? Doesn't make any sense! Finally, they need to stop with these characters that get basically infinite cards and infinite ki.
There is no way that golder glizzy is the best unit individually in the whole game when there is still a ultra green baby roaming the meta here and there 😄
MUI was never the best unit in the game. The androids were better with ease. especially when they released the quick tackle right after. super vegeto was the one who topt them
Fusing Vegito is such an amazing character, kit wise he's top 1-2 effortlessly but there's really not much toxicity when facing him. They were in the HQ doing overtime making him
i love how there is a lot of teams in this game like we have son family and son family but don’t forget about son family i really hope that they give son family a buff the tag is really dead not even near to smthing like vegeta clan
Ssb gogeta is getting a bit disrespected here. Having him WAY below ui sign is diabolical. He deserves bare minimum s tier. This meta is very good for him right now, and I don’t see him anywhere NEAR a tier. I would also argue him above ui sign because of how well he can deal with ssj2 gohan and ulthan. He completely shuts down ulthan because he’s not dependent on the blue card to kill him and with how many cards gogeta is spawning, ulthan can’t take a combo from him. Not to mention the fact that I’ve had gogeta LIVE ulthan rush because of how tanky he can get. For ssj2 gohan, he obviously has the assault chain and also the ability to tank a blue card counter from gohan as well from how high his defensive capabilities are. For ui sign, he can’t control when to use the lock in, and if he uses the lock in against ulthan, ulthan can just eat it for free because of the debuffs he’s applying. Although, i do think that ui sign can deal with ssj2 gohan a bit better than gogeta because he’s blast based and the lock in ult can destroy ssj2 gohan. I also think that gogeta can be utilized a lot more than ui sign because of the abundance of tags he’s on compared to ui sign. Gogeta has better utility, tanking ability, firepower, forced card draw, disrupt on base, aoe block, healing capabilities, and a green card spawning machine in base, dragon ball generator, and longer combos. Ui sign has the dodge, dodge in combos, lock in ult, green card spawn, lowering sub count on dodge, and stalling and outside of that, gogeta just washes him in every category imo. Not to mention that gogeta imo fairs better against the top ten than ui does imo.
53:06 in this meta, before janemba and pikkon, not only gf could counter his gauge, but Path To Power Goku too. When he uses rr, he gain a uncancable cover change nullification for 3 counts, just against to gf.
I feel like this is a perfect ranking format! So many broken units are coming out pre anniversary, anniversary & after anni its very difficult to squeeze them in top 10.
Bro def summoned for Gogeta. I have both at 8 and 9 stars respectively, and Vegito is just better. Don’t get me wrong, Gogeta is very good and underrated for sure, especially with his ability to counter the meta, but Vegito is just better for the most part
@@Immitis-ct7ic Nope I summoned for Vegito and Gohan as well. I still think he more valueable. I think Vegito main gimmick was counter by Ult Gohan. Plus tbh he’s really easy to deal with he’s not that really tanky and then he doesn’t really do anything I’m afraid of.
I think you forgot another LF in the Top 10, he’s handsome, he can transform, his color is red, he gets an attack buff on saiyans, he is oldest son of King Cold and his name starts with a C
Dude I'm sorry but theres simply no way you said Frieza has the potential to be the best character in the game. Ultimate Gohan quite literally does what Frieza does 10x better. His endurance is basically indestructible bc he cancels your buffs,(obviously not better than comeback but honestly the tradeoff is just some damage that everyone can heal back) his green gives cover null AND gives your gauge back (better than frieza) and his blues hit like a truck and nullify and endurance. Oh yea and then the ultimate that also nukes your character. Come on on
This tier list makes no sense because gb and uui have almost the exact same kit, but uui is slightly better. Why would you put gb a tier below him when he fulfills the same role as gb and A tier is flawed GB is a way better unit than kid buu and super baby 2, and cmz is a little bit too high. GB should be switched with cmz
To say that GB is better than CMZ is not really right. CMZ is considered a hard counter to GB because of his damage output (after all, PO gets a damage buff against Saiyans). Buu and Super Baby 2 are better because they are also PO, and they pair with UGF insanely well. Super Baby has a really good gauge, and he has a blue/ultimate that can seal when the gauge is full. Buu is insane because he gets almost no Ki cost late game, and he is overall a really good offensive unit. PO (even though they aren't used as much) is a very strong team, and they are better than GB
Its aleays Nice listen to Zelda OOT BGM But besides that... As someone who was playing some time ago (when Goku and Bardock and Red Beast released) and omg its MILES away How theyre working with characters like, UL Gohan its ridiculous to fight against, he can be 10X worst than UI in my opinion, like The Power some months ago is extremely Miles away from this ANNI, in a way that any a bit old char is Just going to be crushed by The tier Z and S
Never had a problem with pvp but currently for me it's unplayable only teams I fight are vegito with either gogeta or Gohan or both Gohans I don't see a variety of characters and it annoys the shi outta me I pulled gogeta this Anni I ain't spending money anymore because I've already spent way to much in the span of 5 years I quit during 4th Anni because the game just felt toxic just like it feels now We have so much good characters but one team gets buffs and they gave both vegito and Gohan a utterly disgusting unique equip 15% hp for 2 of the most toxic characters in the Meta damm
I don´t get how gt goku and pikkon even made the list. Gt is solid but can´t compete right now and gt goku has no place on son fam.He is like third option number 6 there and why would he be a better pick over goku and bardock who have the indestructable. And pikkon is nowhere to be seen. The new kaioshin sees way more play for example on the majin buu saga team and even the new 1% is better right now. The biggest issue with godku i have is that he should help to bring godki back which colour wise he does and he brings the protection with endurance but because of ultimate gohan and vegeto who are run everywhere his existence doesn´t matter. He just dies against son fam which is the most common team
Also, aside from my previous comment, I really like how you decided to do tiers instead of making a straight up top 10, as it allows people to understand what level certain characters are on/being relative to each other, rather than people bickering about “He should be lower” or “he should be higher”
34:00 the only benefit I see to running Gogeta over UI Goku is you can Zenkai buff him with SS3 Gotenks who is also a health bench for fusions and hybrids. That way, you don’t have to sacrifice a Zenkai buff for a health bench.
There are a lot more. UI doesn’t have a consistent way to kill Ulthan. You would need to pop main and kill with blasts, but no one would leave their Ultimate rat in such a spot. His lock in also doesn’t work because that ult doesn’t nullify endurance. Gogeta on the other hand can tank really well for an offensive unit, can 4 card Gohans 1st life, counters Cryhan, Gay UI Goku and Frieza…..He counters 5 of the top 10 units and only has 1 direct counter. UI doesn’t really counter anyone. Gogeta undeniably better.
Red Pan was top 2 in the game. God Goku deserved better. Him not being made to be No#1 doesn't excuse the fact that he was done dirty the way he was. He's gonna age like milk and that is the worst of it all. I just wanna have a viable unit for more than 1-2 months. Just normalize buffs and make the slight adjustments, not GoFrieza situations it's not that hard to not put 89129378172 things in the buff list jeez. If there are that many people that find a thing deranging how in the world does it do any bad if they just do a single adjust ? That's ig part of the frustration, on top of other things. #BuffGodGoku
I'm just happy to see a Broly in top 15 units. He's very fun to use imo. Hope they do more Broly units that can be in the meta. Even if they hate that character.
Super disappointed with SSG Goku, seems like the team got a little lazy with that unit. I think UUI Goku should be somewhere around in Z tier, that unit can still secure early kills effectively.
I get the complete disdain for UL Gohan’s armor break cards, but is it really that much worse than everyone back then freely fishing for strike/blue/green/ult blast armor? I think people should be properly checked for abusing blast armor.
Well he is the better character right now simply because Gohan makes Godku irrelevant atm. It really sucks, but Godku was released with a subpar kit and at a horrible time too.
Given the typings of the 4 headliners that have released I feel like we can assume the new Ultra is gonna be Red? I wonder how they will affect this list.
11:12 they literally said last year that g&f would be the only character that they will ever buff, g&f was an exception, they’re not gonna buff god goku
@@SadMoribundthat's what makes him so valuable His ultimate seals RR for 15 counts, and deletes two DB, G/V green card effect too, AND GOHAN SEALS RR FOR 15 MORE COUNTS ON ENTRANCE WITH THE ATTACK GAUGE.... The sinergy is unreal
16 hours online and I have seen a lot of content creator down playing your list. They are mainly talking about your C-tier and God Goku being even on your list. Impo, there is nothing wrong with your list. Saying that characters like GT Kid Goku or LF Pikkon are not useable or straight up bad in the current meta is wrong imo. They still have flaws in which, from Situation to Situation, they can turn tables to your favor. Just because a character has not the most broken kit in the game doesn't mean he's basically useless or cant provide some utility to the team. Now in terms of God Goku, I think that your point of view of the character is actually the right way to see him. He's not "That" character to carry your whole Team like LF SV, but has a similar role like Future Gohan. Very good disrupt, many ways of combo Potential, Type neutrality and overall decent damage. The only drawback this character has is no Ki on entry which is, for me, an insult to a 2024 anniversary unit to give him an entry of a basically 2020 unit. But nontheless he's probably someone people see more value in him the more time Passes quite similar to how future gohan aged. You really do not deserve the slander on your list because there is nothing wrong with it. Now if people straight up disagree, that's one thing. But saying your list is wrong, that is wrong
