@@paperluigi6132 eh not really. Goku couldn't even handle Raditz with what you said. It was really his training with King Kai and at 100x Gravity that really put him so far ahead of everyone.
@@thecatwhisperer2820ut it's thanks to all Gokus prior training that King kai saw Goku as worthy discipline. Master Roshi taught Goku to aspire to be better.
Yeah. It's scary. 😰 I'm so used to Vegeta being an antihero if not a fully fledged hero that I forgot how evil and ruthless he was before he had his redemption arc. No wonder Goku didn't want to be his henchman. 😅
@Cosmic Power Hell its implied people like raditz were the adverage in terms of freeza force power. So for vegeta to be multiple times stronger than that is crazy, even as a kid. I say that as the elites of freeza's army were around vegetas level. Zarbon. Dodoria, Cui all not to far from 18k.
The most shocking thing about this, is that Vegeta's Technique (tm) is actually useful. now we know why he had it to begin with, good for clearing generic fodder troops.
Well in the original version raditz didn't meet them until after planet Vegeta's destruction. Hence why he's nowhere to be seen. It's dragon ball minus and the DBS broly movie that put Raditz with nappa and Vegeta before planet Vegeta's destruction. Originally Raditz was a low class hence why he isn't with Vegeta and nappa in this. But toriyama changed it and stated Raditz was a mid class Saiyan hence why we see him on Vegeta and nappa's team before planet Vegeta's destruction in DBS. He's NOT a mid class in the Bardock movies and this version. He's a low class. So he wouldn't be on a team with two high ranking Saiyans like Vegeta and nappa.
Absolutely love this part in the game. Always loved the original DBZ kid Vegeta design. Its so clean and his hairline isnt messed up. He would look clean with those bangs in his adulthood instead of looking like his dead father ☠️
That's exactly the issue: they have made some nonsensical and bad decisions with the franchise many times before, and very recently too. This feels more like laziness than restraint
@@addictedtochocolate920 indeed that's what how i see it too they are not focused on creating a beautiful and badass story like dragon ball Z anymore that's just straight laziness
Same but it is pretty inline with his ruthless character starting out. Even with his species being extinct, he had no hesitation taking any other saiyans out if he didn't think they were able to fight.
@@jensennguyen02the sad thing is knowing that the worst, evil and cruel got to be spared, got a family, became more human and now hes a great person While the other two that were more nice (hell raditz despite wanting to kill goku felt bad he couldnt get his brother to join them) remain dead
@@angelarce9747Raditz didn’t give two craps about killing Goku heck he even wanted to kill Gohan too, his nephew. Raditz had some serious issues man and I like to think it was because he had an inferiority complex that in his father never hugged him when he was a kid. 😂
You know, it's actually kind of sad. Nappa was actually legitimately concerned and caring(somewhat) towards Vegeta. Makes me think he would have actually made a pretty decent Z fighter if he had the right people to guide him.
Yeah he was concerned for Vegeta's safety because he a child. It's disturbing that Vegeta killed somone he knew his whole life! Nappa was shocked when planet Vegeta was destroyed and shows concern to his allies and even wanted to wish Raditz back to life
@@andycash9143 yeah. I mean don't get me wrong, Nappa was still a bloodthirsty asshole but at least he had some sense of camaraderie. But it also goes to show how ruthless Vegeta used to be and how much he's changed..... But some part of me feels kinda bad for nappa and raditz.
I would love a movie that focuses on Vegeta and his early life as a child soldier ... being subject to frieza and having to watch his dad bow down to a guy like frieza ... I would rather see a vegeta movie than a Gohan movie bc we know Gohan..there is so much we don't know about vegeta... he wants to become powerful so nobody can take anything from him ... frieza fckdd his head up and goku wished him back to life SMH
"he wants to become powerful so nobody can take anything from him" Tell that to all the civilizations he wiped out that, he literally took EVERYTHING FROM THEM! Only in Dragon Ball do you have fans unironically sympathize with and empathize with a literal genocidal maniac and act like his evil deeds don't matter. Why? cAuSe hE's a fAmIlY mAn nOw!
@@SpinoRexy733in all fairness, vegeta grew up with a race where that was their entire ideology, culling planets and then selling them to the highest bidder, it’s not exactly his fault that he has basically been taught that throughout his entire childhood, the only reason goku didn’t end up like vegeta was because he lost his memories of the sayians as a child. As the prince of sayians, he was literally taught that mass genocide was normal and the only thing that mattered was how strong you were, he turned over a new leaf when he came across goku and realized that he didn’t need those ideologies in order to maintain his pride as a sayian. Besides a lot of a dragon ball is about villains eventually turning good. (Piccolo, vegeta, majin buu, the androids, ect.)
@@Nex_NovaIt doesn't matter you clown. He still murdered tons of people. He doesn't deserve shit. And the Saiyans were evil all on their own before Frieza even found them
@@Nex_Nova So true! I get the argument that Vegeta shouldn't be let off the hook because of his upbringing, but he managed to see the error of his ways and evolve into something that he never would've dreamed of(even if he did lose everything and had some sense beaten into him, literally) and that's thanks in large part to Goku's good influence. 😊
It seemed like he didn't care. But I think he really did care about losing his home planet and the kingdom he was destined to rule. ❤ He was just good at hiding it. We'd see this again much later when Goku sacrificed his life to save the earth from Cell's self-destruction and Vegeta was reflecting on everything he'd done in his life and questing the ideology he was raised with, even lamenting Goku's death. Heck, when Vegeta was making his final plea to Goku, he explained how Frieza destroyed their home planet, by the end, he was crying. Something Goku himself noted. So Vegeta does have feelings, he's just good at hiding them. 😊
It would be cool if they made a prequel game focused soley on the saiyans. It would have chapters starring Bardock, Nappa, kid Raditz, kid Vegeta, with the later chapters going into adult Raditz and Vegeta. You could call it DBZ: Conquerers of the Cosmos! Or something like that You can even have DLC that takes place after the cell saga but before the majin Buu saga featuring a warrior that survived Vegeta’s assault on their planet and they come to earth to get revenge on him and they are pretty powerful. Vegeta fights them to protect earth and affirm himself as the strongest surviving Saiyan.
Oh god, Justin Briner's voice keeps bringing me back to when TeamFourStar made Final Fantasy 7 Machinabridged, AND I CAN'T UNHEAR CLOUD STRIFE BECAUSE OF IT
Now I have a good idea for what an evil Izuku Midoriya might sound like. The voice may be a bit high pitched (prepubescent Saiyan = cinnamon roll superhero teenager), but the ego carries over in every word.
Vegeta really went under a lot of training as a Kid. Even Being bound by the frieza force. And, Other Than Looking at what he's been through, I'm actually Surprised Nappa Had Hair.
But, he didn't - he barely batted an eye over the fact that Planet Vegeta was "hit by an asteroid," as Dedoria originally claimed. When he learned that Friza destroyed it,Vegeta had little to no care about the destruction of his people.
#7:16 "Next time though, you're dead!" - Cui He was only half right when he said that. But next time, Vegeta viciously kills Cui. Bastard got what he deserved.
The game itself is excellent. The movements are very characteristic and surgical in relation to the anime. It truly is a very high quality game in what it intends to extract from the anime. Now, what draws attention in some combats where there are several characters against one, is not so realistic. The characters move forward and stand next to the opponent (Vegeta kid) when they should attack. I think it must be to make it easier or it's really a bug, which loses "another dose of emotion" from the game's combat. A little more difficulty in the fights would be interesting.
It's on purpose, and I can tell you from experience it makes the game unplayable if you have several enemies attacking you at once, as someone who's played xenoverse, a similar game that tried to allow multiple enemies to attack at once
Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, Toriyama stated that everything seen in the game is canon to the original manga and helps to fill in plot holes. Kid Vegeta is insanely strong then
In the anime he very much cares considering that when they tell him, he acts all angry. Too bad he can't use the excuse of "I'm the prince OHOH OF THE STRONGEST WARRIOR RACE" since they got wiped and so he switches to "Oh im so angry because he made a fool out of me"
It's always strange to me whenever they make a point of saying vegeta was a prize fighter in the freeza force, there were nearly a dozen stronger fighters that we know about without even including freeza or cold (or cooler if you count him
@Darkwear-vr8biI love goku but it’s plot armor bro lol. Even vegeta could not understand how goku’s power was increasing so dramatically from the saiyan arc. He went from being weaker than a saibamen, to final form frieza level . It was goku who actually started the whole thing with the saiyan characters making enormous leaps in strength.
I mean the fact he can beat cui like this. by the time hes an adult and he trained that seriously. he would beat goku even if he used kaioken. vegata got lucky with all the zenkai boost on earth and namek
Yeah, as much as I love Goku, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he lost to Vegeta had they had their iconic first showdown as kids. Thank God Goku trained as hard as he did. 😅
Vegeta’s Power Level was 18,000 when he first arrived on Earth, right? Depending on where this fits in the timeline, what do you think it’s in this DLC?
Considering it's been stated he surpassed his father as a child, I'm guessing tiny veggie is close to about 16k or so. Beyond the 12k range easily. Plus, given Cui is around and people compare them, it makes some sense since he was at 18k during namek
So Prince Vegeta is stronger than his father. I would say King Vegeta’s power level is around 12,000 meaning that Prince Vegeta’s power level should be 14,000 - 15,000
Something I'd like to point out here that a lot of people missed out is that Vegeta says he's stronger because he "constantly trains to get stronger". However, when the saiyans come to Earth, he notes how he doesn't train and how Saiyan power levels are determined by genetics, which is then the entire moral conflict of that saga + namek. So 1. Either King Vegeta influenced Vegeta to believe he didn't need to train. 2. Freiza lied to him that he shouldn't train in fear he would unlock Super Saiyan and overthrow him. 3. Continuity error.
Yeah I had the same problem with this too. The whole message of Dragon Ball is that hard work and training triumphs over raw talent, but having Vegeta train before encountering Goku kinda muddies that whole thing
@@doubleoof7907 Yeah. That's strange. My personal theory is that Vegeta used to train as a kid, but stopped as an adult because he became so confident he could never be defeated. That is of course until Goku came along and beat him at his own game. I could be wrong though.
For gods sake Kakarot, just give us tournament of power already. Im sick of playing through meaningless distant pasts. I found it incredibly annoying to power up goku and vegeta to such a high level during the first two dlc, just to have the following episodes completely forget about them. Without the tournament saga, they feel so incredibly incomplete to me. Kakarot does such a great job at truly making the improvements of characters over the cource of the game, visible during fights. I just NEED to see Ultra Instinct in Kakarot.
@@NoobThatExists Whatever, Battle of gods and revival of f are in super too so who even cares, the original Dragon Ball, which is also not Z, is even being featured next so your argument is invalid regardless.
@@dyztroyax46281. Kakarot takes shit mainly from the manga, which means that the original DB and DBZ are one series. 2. Before being included in super, both BoG and RoF were movies under the DBZ brand, not DBS.
@@Crimson1Fed Dont see how either of those things would stop them. Plenty of games have "Z" in the f.cking title, yet featured GT. As if that would stop anyone from including an episode of Super, the actual official continuation. Anyone who doesnt want Ultra Instinct in Kakarot is a moron in my eyes.
I wonder what the average power level of this planet was, certainly higher than the average power level of Earth, no wonder the Saiyans thought it would be easy to conqueror
