Dragon's Dogma - Making Money problem disappear completely at low level 

@Poe Soul I had 3, so it still endsed up ont sdhakghzh

Yes that’ll work, but I wouldn’t waste a skill slot on suasion for my arisen or my pawn; just look for 2 support pawns with the skill. Instead, farm BBI novelties (level 3 I think) until you get 2 ring of thrift. Has the same exact effect as suasion, except it doesn’t waste a skill slot.

@@Whitebreadonly you know you can just swap it out right? it dosent take long at all and not a complete waste of time either since the money you get per run fully buffed is way more worth (although its fine if people just want it done fast and dont care about doing it optimally.)

Thanks for feedback. Well, my videos changed a lot into direction you say. You can watch my Sorcerer vocation video as example

Hmmm, building this setup so i could have all vocations by this level took 250+ hours of preparation ;) Whole game goes a lot slower when main concern is not to level up. There is no person in the world who would watch 10 hours of straight farming like I had yesterday to get Hindsight ring for Fighter... Way off 250+ hours of avoiding enemies, opening chests, stealing items All the necessary knowhow for doing this and getting ready is contained in this playlist and separated by theme it touches, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4t4Py7XoN_E.html and even when condensed like that it is more than 2 hours long. But, after watching this, even beginner can enter BBI and have no real trouble, If you check the video about obtaining Moonbeam gem, that is recording of my very beginning on this character. I start waking up after dragon fight. I think I got even better idea from your comments, but this will take a little time as well. When you asked me last time I put my head into it and separated whole thing in vocation playlists, knowhow playlist... Now, the last thing will be cross connecting it with cards in videos and links so it is really easy to follow But, yea. As you say... Next play will most probably be something like you want. Speed playthrough from beginning to end of BBI from scratch, but that will be because I won't avoid leveling up and I'll do that for all vocations as well once this is finished. Or I might do video about Magick Archer like I did about Strider after BBI. I have a feeling that people didn't really notice how much MA changed with BBI because class descriptions, the way they play... it is the same as before BBI. Whenever I watch any MA video, I almost want to scream "and... daggers are for decoration?"

well... or I might do video on my previous project... Saya, my pawn level 26. She is a product of more than one month of work. I know it sounds strange, but I made her so people can have easy start if they want

Np, glad you liked it

pilfer is good master thief is better as you get rarer stuff like lvl 2 & 3 novelty items and lvl 3 gear. take 3 pawns with you hit the gorecyclops prisoner and run up the stairs. Go back and forth thru the door till all your pawns and you are overburdened then use a liftstone to get to the surface and have the woman take you back to Cassardis. You can sell all that stuff for a good 6 mil or more without using suasion. This works at very low levels. I always do this before going to Gran Soren with that hydra head and usually have around 24 million. A little tedious but worth it. The trick is to run past all the enemies. Tell your pawns to come and hit a door. The area with Barrach has at least 2 liftstones you can get free. Rest at Cassardis and repeat if you want.

Thanks ;)

I show the results at the end. Don't know what "full process" stands for you, but it should be easy to calculate

Heh, believe it or not, even though I made this video I prefer that method as well. I just get necessary few things and then don't change until end game whatsoever. Black cat sells awesome gear, some other awesome like Mummer you can find from game start and then there are some really good and cheap to purify armor 1 accessible form game start as well. I usually just get one decent weapon and farm myself lv.1 in helix. That and dragonforged reward from 10 Macabre is enough to just buy lv.2 weapon as soon as you kill bishop. So, I'm with ya ;) No need for excessive money.

i swear all the black cat stuff was counterfeit

Thanks, I am glad it helped ;)

Enjoy the game, it is fantastic. As far as the same, well... I know I didn't copy anyone since I do this from DA ps3 release date and I figured it out for myself, but that doesn't mean noone else could figure it out as well. It is pretty much straight forward thing You can steal once until you either exit area or save/die/reload, chests respawn in 3 days, items have price and weight... No rocket science here ;)

wh1sper 123 ah, you misunderstood. I was referring to the other comment on your video, I am in the same boat as him, playing on PS4

Ahh, ok It wouldn't be any different even if I didn't. Game strategies and things get copied and copied and copied... ;)

You need strider skill for it, but when you learn it doesn't matter. Only thing is that the later you are in levels the less it is worth. Once you can quickly kill enemies, killing for item selling will be much more fun.

thanks buddy for answering. and i have 2 question: 1- is there another special use for this skill of strider, and 2- if i put my portable crystals in some places and after that i change my difficulty to hard mode, what will happen to my portable crystals? they will disappear or they will come back to my storage or they will remain there positions in the map? thanks for ur consideration.

1. You can really use it on anything that can be blinded or put to sleep. Like, you can steal shitton of beastial eyes or ogre claws by the time you would maybe,... hopefully... cross your fingers... sacrifice few goats to gods of luck... farm 1. This skill is extremely useful for farming rare materials, although not every rare material can be stolen (look blind/sleep). And even more so on bugged Siren Tailfin which is actually very common item drop... with fault that it drops under the map where you can't pick it up in 99% of the time You can check out my Heists playlist for examples ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o76rBhqnIJ0.html I show this skill in depth here. Won't point out time because I consider it very useful video for everyone and just watching one part is making yourself disfavor ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i9kAQaVPuzQ.html 2. They stay exactly where you set them. Only selecting New Game will reset that

thank u so much buddy. too useful info.

Max sell value is ~ 75% and that’s with 2 support pawns each having Suasion, and you and your pawn either having Suasion OR the Ring of Thrift. You can’t stack Ring of Thrift with Suasion. It’s one or the other, not both. I recommend using the Ring of Thrift instead of Suasion for you and your pawn so you don’t waste a skill slot. It’s impossible, however, to find a support pawn carrying a Ring of Thrift, as it’s not apparel or gear that can be equipped.

Off course, I agree 100%. Otherwise I would do this in at least one playthrough I recorded ;) But, in some cases you can't afford to kill enemies if you keep level low. This makes money really problematic. And then some people like to do these things

When he was in the area where he took fall damage, with the guy on the bridge. You can glitch inside a door that gives you the ring of perseverance which levels your vocation 50% faster and 50% more discipline. If you restart on hard mode, you can get it a second time for 100%

It is a dagger technique from the Strider vocation.

Try running through NG+ and doing it again before you get to Daimon. Might seem like a pain in the ass to do everything all over again, but there are advantages to NG+…for starters, you get to fight Grigori (the dragon who has your heart) again. He’s guaranteed to give you a set weapon based on your currently equipped weapon(s) and dragonforge whatever weapon(s) and clothes/armor you currently have equipped (when you strike the final blow to kill him) that’s upgradable. You may already know this though.

@@Whitebreadonly yeah I knew. Gear 3’s aren’t hard, theres a rout for like 5-6 lvl 3 equipment I was doing and on the way is a guaranteed gear lvl 3. As for gold I can kill offline Ur pretty quick now then sell the wakestone. I love grigori as a character but now his gear is of no real use to me. Also theres cursed dragons which give a good chance to dragonforge.:). I could do this easily enough, would just have to be careful now hehe. I did it a lot when I first found this vid. Best wishes to you.:)

Yeah, once you level up there's way better methods for money, this is really for low level farming.

Nvm I wasn't on the right vocation

This is kind of exception here Prisoner until locked doesn't trigger it and sorcerers are too far to trigger combat state no matter if they can hit you or not. As I was reminded here in comments, You also cannot have pawns with you. As soon as pawn enters the area and gets targeted by sorcerer they trigger combat beginning. The way that games usually work in this case is by event collision sphere. So, until your character enters it, combat is not yet triggered. You can test how big that sphere is by nearing to sorcerer and trying to save. Sometimes, height can apply as well

Ring of Thrift. But, they don't stack. The only way it stacks is once for each member in group. So, if let's say 3 in group have suasion or ring... money is 1.2*1.2*1.2

thanks for answering. u sell ur items without pawns and that skill 18,500 but i tried 3 pawn plus myself and i could sell 3 kinds of items that i farmed , between 31.000 till 33.000 gold, around double price.i think having those pawns really worth it and another thing i could farmed all more than 1000 items only in one run, and i didnt have any problem with weight of those items.those items goes straight in my inventory without limitation for weight and that was too helpful. thanks again for ur nice videos and fast answering.

Is it worth it? Well, yes and no. Yes, at first glance. No, later I for example don't even bother with that. I only need around 3mio somewhere around level 45 per playthrough as I can buy lv.2 weapon and few other armor items. 2mio I simply get from macabre statue reward which is cursed belt. when you dragonforge it you sell it for around 2 and the rest i get from selling my lv.1 weapon. Money became pretty much pointless with BBI. All best items require RC and not money. Lots of good stuff you can find if you know where you're looking and very little you actually buy with money. I most cases this ends up being 1 lv.2 weapon and few armors at black cat

ok. u r right. but u played this game 1000 hours, u know everything and also u r pro. but i am still beginner and not pro. any way, i use all ur info that u give me, and try not to waste more time and try to do lesser mistakes. and 1- we can buy level 2 and 3 weapon after we reached specific level????? 2- there is one ring for faster casting that we get from a quest. i reforge it . and i gave the forgery ring for completing the quest, and try to use original ring for faster casting with sorcerer, but i cant use the ring. do u know why? and how to use it?

1000? If only that, number is higher, 1000 is probably too little for the little I needed to make my DD videos ;) I show that optimal nonspending here and other 2 videos. But, I would highly suggest you play the game first on your own and later follow these. Believe me,... going with this too soon will spoil the fun. Instead you enjoy the game on first play ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lk4NMq-EyDM.html Trust me on this one and even if you watch it (or other 2 builds), ignore it until you finish the game. 1. No, you can only buy lv.2. Lv.3 can only be farmed. Lv.2 weapons are sold when you finish quest with 3 cursed dragons horns (also shown in that video). It just doesn't make sense to buy those before hitting lv.46 as their level uses stamina like crazy if you're under that. Each weapon in this game has specific level at which it stops draining stamina. Lv.3 are 51 2. You don't use it. You only have it on you in inventory and it works and same it is for pawn if you have one extra. You can still equip both rings

You need Gear 1/2/3 rings for that. Skill has to be equipped and when you equip skill ring as well you get to 3rd tier skill

Thanks! I'm gonna try your methods, looks like a good way to get Lvl 3 gear too.. ;)

Compared to how easy it is to get post Daimon, not really. But, it can be awesome addition when you're low level if you get something decent. It is much better for Novelty 3 to get Elite lamp and other shit like that

Where do you farm lvl 3 weapons and armor? I only got to Daimon once and lost. It was like a 1.5 hour fight where my weapons did 0 damage. I was level 78-80-ish. Somehow he was able to kill me with a swirling blue vortex that went on and on forever. He just stared at the ground and didn't move. Felt like a glitch that it went on for so long, or is that one of his powers?

Only available part before killing daimon is quest for killing Death that awards Shadow boots with useless enchantment Daimon 1st you mean? That one has decent defense, but not even remotely as much as second form in 2nd BBI playthrough. For Daimon the most important thing is that you pack enough power which is easy with 4x periapts (they stack just in case you didn't know). Go to my channel, select playlists and search for "Low Level FULL OUT (your vocation)" and search for Daimon fight. I made a point of making some sort of easy tutorials there for whole BBI Just curious... Which vocation? Which weapon and how much upgraded? Maybe on that information I could add something

It works without pawns. It is pawn who triggers that state of being unable to Save. Read comment from Tar vyn and the few others in that discussion

Yea, my bad. Buckles, not knuckles. I meant the weight, as their price is practically the same

wh1sper 123 mk. Cool. Also when do you unlock 'Master Thief'? I assume its for assassins only.

Strider vocation level 8

wh1sper 123 all right thanks. Now i know what to level up with next. (joly fuck m'y keyboard is being really weird)

dont know for consoles but you can still steal even with max weight on pc...atleast i tried to get over 100kg and it worked :) just did this inbetween a moongem run to get my "starter-op" gear, as always thanks for the videos^^

When you get to gran Soren (the capital), go to the inn. Go to withdraw from stash/inventory and it will be there. The game just gives it to you

Dark Arisen has been the "only" version since the expansion released. At this point, with the PC, Xbox One/Ps4, and Switch editions all having the dlc as the only version, there's no real excuse to be asking for that much information. It's implied and expected now

@@aliceangel2799 just day dark arisen in the title, it's not hard.

At that level you have tons of better options. Probably best is to just kill things that drop ultra expensive materials, farm cursed armors/weapons to dragonforge and sell...

Need? Not really? Should have? Definitely, it makes some things a lot easier... especially when farming some rare materials which can be stolen. Best example is probably Siren Tailfin which is not even rare, just bugged where it falls under the ground in 99.99999% of the time. If you try killing Sirens to farm 3-4 you'll need days (god bless black cat copy), if you try stealing them... you practically steal it every time where stealing something rare is using same factor as drops. If you're careful when killing you can notice how many times Siren Tailfin icon pops and disappears on kill which is when it drops under the ground I made a playlist that might show it better how to use Master Thief ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o76rBhqnIJ0.html

Well wh1sper 123 thank you very much for that video now i know how important is master thief

Well shit. I'm a warrior class

Strider vocation. Pilfer at level 6 and Master Thief at 8. I show skill in details here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i9kAQaVPuzQ.html I for example never use any secret augments at all

Care to elaborate which part is not newbie friendly and where do I claim it is? More so, which method is not tedious in your opinion? Name one method you can do from single digit level that is as awarding as this one.

knowing exactly where to go...

It’s not that bad. Truely it’s not, just don’t worry about grabbing the chests and it’s fine

Do you have pawns with you? As soon as battle music starts, it is impossible (you can look up comment from Tar Vyn)

Care to be a little more specific? If you play as Strider and have Pilfer or Master Thief skill you can freely steal once from him. Steal, then save and let yourself get killed to be able to steal again upon reload. But, as I was notified having pawns with you won't allow saving.

It is a Strider skill. You need to play as Strider to use it and you can only learn it at vocation level 6. This skill can be later upgraded to Master Thief at vocation level 8. Master Thief steals twice as many items as Pilfer and it adds some items that you cannot steal with Pilfer

wh1sper 123 awesome. Thanks bro. I just bought this for PS4

No problem, if you're new player this playlist ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4t4Py7XoN_E.html more or less answers all the questions you might have. But, if it is something you find missing do not fret to ask. If something is missing, I will most definitely add it

chickenchowchang mo dont know

dont know about other versions but the switch version starts you with one in the storage that you can use as soon as you unlock fast travel

@@BeanSparrow it's all versions

Never understood what is the point of the game after that. No challenge is no fun, but hey... as long as it works for you

@@whsper-fe4fo Yo is this patched?

I guess you should read the comment too or watch my other videos. If you notice, I don't fight single enemy and all you really require is Pilfer which is very soon in Strider vocation. Or do you feel it would be any different if I did it then? You have to take it with a grain of salt and realize that sometimes you record with higher level simply because there is absolutely no change even if you went and reset just to do one video. If you check my other videos you will notice I used this character to demonstrate how to efficiently deal with ALL enemies in BBI which takes a lot of vocation grinding and passing few bosses.

i went there at lvl 10 and the undead 1hit my whole team

I doubt that would happen. Those undead can only cast Ingle, Levin which can only take one at the time or maybe 2 if in right area. But, if you mean the big one... he is not undead. He is condemned gorecyclops which could really do what you say. Lowest level I passed that area was 2, which is absolute minimum. I even went and killed that Gorecyclops while dodging spells from all mages at that level which took 45min just poisoning and burning while doing 1hp damage with dragonforged Rusted Bow and Scalding Daggers If you really want his drops (lv.2 weapon) you can as well pick up Rancid Bait Meat and let dragon kill him for you, then bait dragon in the air and steal the loot

yeah dat big bastard owned my ass real good bro..i gonna try dat later, maybe i get better luck next time

I wouldn't worry... HE DID THAT TO EVERYONE! ;) And it can still one shot you in certain cases even at level 200 with best armor on Hard Mode. Also, if you're following the stealing method here... I would point on comment from Tar vyn. You cannot save when having pawns it seems. As far as fighting him, he is not really hard once you realize his patterns. I don't know which vocation you play as, but I made examples of dealing with him at low levels with all vocations in my "Low level FULL OUT (vocation)" playlists. But, most of it simply relies on one thing, if you are ranged vocation you want him without club and melee fares better when he holds one. Without club he is just raging and spinning which makes him practical target practice and with club he goes into is 1-2 foot stomp mode which makes it really easy on melee And dying is part of the process for this money trick. For stealing you need to steal, save, get killed, retry, steal, save, get killed... Basically each time you die and retry you can steal again, but each time you save with more and more loot

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