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Dragonflight Healer Tier List for M+ Dungeons 

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World of Warcraft: Dragonflight is just around the corner. I've been testing all of the healers on beta, and in this video I rank them all from best to worst based on their performance in m+. dungeons. Don't forget to like and subscribe so that you're notified of my new videos! Read more below:
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I aim to create high level, yet easy to understand content for healers in M+ keystones for current World of Warcraft and into the new Dragonflight expansion. If you have any feedback, questions, or ideas for new videos - I'd love to hear it in the comments.
0:00 Intro
1:35 Druid
3:47 Evoker
7:04 Paladin
9:50 Shaman
13:20 Holy Priest
15:34 Monk
17:20 Discipline Priest

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@Peatopher90
@Peatopher90 Год назад
Growl, you should do your next tier list video with only clips of your party dying/wiping while you talk about how strong the classes are, but don't ever acknowledge it. I think that would be funny.
@ferynze
@ferynze Год назад
Best idea yet
@rosco3
@rosco3 Год назад
And the bottom tier is him doing keys easily
@Peatopher90
@Peatopher90 Год назад
@@rosco3 its just him pulling 50k dps fistweaving a 23 lmao
@KognitiveGaming
@KognitiveGaming Год назад
I like your takes and reasoning for the placements. Very solid and well articulated. Thanks for the time you put in on this.
@gamathroy
@gamathroy Год назад
I love how you put the healer tierlist in a details box.. such a small DETAIL, but I love it ;)
@Pegglea15
@Pegglea15 Год назад
good one!
@michaelcoffey1991
@michaelcoffey1991 Год назад
Thanks for this, very concise, and knowledgeable. Appreciate you taking the time to say 4 thru 7 may change depending on the player. Kudos and Thank you for the quality you put in this video
@Clewlessly
@Clewlessly Год назад
So glad to see you got your well deserved Blockbuster video sponsor! Such a big company, glad they chose you
@Balloonbot
@Balloonbot Год назад
What are Blockbuster doing these days?
@MyPlaylists22
@MyPlaylists22 Год назад
i think there is only one blockbuster left in the world
@dabnscape5569
@dabnscape5569 Год назад
Nah think it closed
@calebf71
@calebf71 Год назад
@@dabnscape5569 it's in Bend, OR, USA
@andreasaa2000
@andreasaa2000 Год назад
Its in denmark still
@CosmereConcierge
@CosmereConcierge Год назад
Super high quality videos coming out these days! Great work
@stupiddoeswow
@stupiddoeswow Год назад
Solid explanations that really make it a decent tier list, thanks dude!
@prosansmeta8662
@prosansmeta8662 Год назад
Maining Holy Paladin this expansion and I have never seen a class vary so different per build depending on what stat you choose to stack--and interchanging even that. I like it so much.
@alinmeleandra3175
@alinmeleandra3175 Год назад
i am also main HolyPala... and I have never been more happy about pala, before... The only thing that I would improve is to increase Crusader strike's dealt damage based on weapon damage and put in game some two-hands Intellect weapons (i.e. a 2H mace/Sword/Axe/Poleaxe with intellect). This would make the Single Target DPS a bit better (which is one of the things that is lacking for HolyPala) but at the cost of losing the shield which makes it survivability a bit worst. I would also change Shield of Righteous into something like the Strike of The Righteous where the if used with the shield it will provide Armor (like it does now), but it used with the Pummel of a weapon it will either stun a target for 1 sec or provide a damage increase for 5 sec (depending on balancing). This would also mean that the ability would be more used as Holy Power spender since, at the moment, I only use it if I have wings up and I want some addition armor expecting some incoming physical damage or when I want to dump some Holy Power into some AoE DPS... but in generally I do not use it since I rather dump the Holy Power into LoD to increase the change of a Wing Proc...
@_alex_y.not_
@_alex_y.not_ Год назад
So glad you finally did the right thing and returned Jak's family to him.
@20the20
@20the20 Год назад
some of your best content man. been watching since bfa, love to see you stepping it up to the highest level!
@ericreeves1342
@ericreeves1342 Год назад
I really appreciate overviews like this, thank you growl! Keep up the good work! Hope this comment helps feed the algorithm for you
@2NextLvL
@2NextLvL Год назад
BTW i keep track of all ur content across twitch and other channels, u are doing so good man keep it up
@MrMadman111
@MrMadman111 Год назад
Good video thank you for the explanations on each for all levels of players.
@Adam-yj9jj
@Adam-yj9jj Год назад
Production value and editing going up as those subs go up. Growl got me into healing in SL and it’s been great to see this cat with a waffle on its head grow. I didn’t touch Holy Paladin in SL but I’m loving it on pre-patch and will probably keep it as my main for season 1.
@peterschruff3055
@peterschruff3055 Год назад
Banger video. Thanks for the tier list!
@BruceRiggsGamer
@BruceRiggsGamer Год назад
I miss the old Disc Priest. The bubble priest. He was a god.
@bethanymay3056
@bethanymay3056 Год назад
Me, too. I was in the top 5 healers on my server as Disc and would rival the spot for top DPS in our guild raids as the top healer. It was so much fun. I never ran out of mana, then they took away our ability to have bigger mana pools through Spirit Stat. 😔 Anyway, I was hoping to hear something good about them in this expansion, but I guess not. 😕 Such a bummer.
@bennytyty
@bennytyty Год назад
Growl! I'm only 3 minutes into the video but I have to say, the editing on this video is ON POINT. The Details-esque UI for the rankings is a nice touch - more interesting than tier maker.
@Adam-yj9jj
@Adam-yj9jj Год назад
Ikr, editing has stepped up and the script is tight. Growl is a step ahead of the competition
@BialyK1el
@BialyK1el Год назад
Props to his editor! Good work!
@moridyn6501
@moridyn6501 Год назад
Yeah, growls editor has been doing phenomenally.
@RTB1400
@RTB1400 Год назад
Bump for the algorithm. Very true.
@Forlingas
@Forlingas Год назад
Thanks for the video, fantastic to have *such* thoughtful and informed comparisons, even though most of us know that we’re switching to evoker anyway because it’s new.
@remi9951
@remi9951 Год назад
The tier list we all been waiting for
@koteykee3255
@koteykee3255 Год назад
A comment to support your content, Growl. Great videos, as always. Take care, bud.
@MechVince
@MechVince Год назад
Thanks for the video, I really value your opinion and so this helps a lot in deciding what to play if DF
@Terrezio
@Terrezio Год назад
As someone who decided to main resto druid in DF around half way through SL season 4, I'm very happy about this :D
@josephparisi1458
@josephparisi1458 Год назад
As someone who has mained resto druid for the past 4 years, I'm very happy about this :D
@johnjohns_channel
@johnjohns_channel Год назад
As someone who has played druid for over 10 years and still plays druid I am really happy about this, I usually play balance and they got nerfed to the ground but I can play all spects of my druid , Im like a master druid my favorite class out of all.
@icresp4263
@icresp4263 Год назад
The use of details as the ranking is really sick
@lexkappa
@lexkappa Год назад
Great vid mate!
@ChaosPrimus
@ChaosPrimus Год назад
As a resto Shaman main, I'm glad they've gotten better over the beta. I just hope they get a slight further nudge on big AoE like you mentioned and maybe a buff to Healing Tide Totem. Also, I very much feel the whole part were we have ltos of utility that we don't take because it's just not worth it. Makes me sad loosing so much and gaining, what at least feels like, not much in return.
@KNByam
@KNByam Год назад
I'm a returning resto shaman, I stopped during Battle for Azeroth as I felt our class has gotten the shaft last 3 expansions or so. Hopefully it plays well during this one.
@plummet3860
@plummet3860 Год назад
@@KNByam if you left in bfa how would you know ? rsham was amazing in SL
@MC-os1qp
@MC-os1qp Год назад
Hello Growl, this is friends. Thanks for all the content you're pumping out on here and on Twitch
@morland192
@morland192 Год назад
just got my evoker up and it feels good!! Happy keying Growl
@koekienator
@koekienator Год назад
Sad to hear MW still lacks the burst healing. It finaly feels soooo good to play again. Would love to see the cd from instant vivify gone since its a two edged sword that could drain your mana quickly, yet it could add some nice burst on demand.
@Emiel1200
@Emiel1200 Год назад
Watching this knowing full well I'll just play all of them
@Huschke85
@Huschke85 Год назад
Really enjoying your content lately. There might not be that many healers compared to DPS, but we still deserve content! :D
@lancegifford9349
@lancegifford9349 Год назад
Yo the blockbuster sponsor that is wild!!! what an honor to work with them
@frost2621
@frost2621 Год назад
Great video quality!
@hawaiiansurfboards
@hawaiiansurfboards Год назад
This is truly the Blockbuster of videos.
@goaliedude32
@goaliedude32 Год назад
I wish that warlord disc would come back. I loved crit heals would instead leave an absorb shield for 100% of the amount healed. I mean it was super overpowered and made a lot of content trivial but I would love to see it balanced and brought back. It was such a good mechanic, not a huge fan of the current disc
@PossiblyJustARandomGuy
@PossiblyJustARandomGuy Год назад
Thanks for the video!
@ferdericole8661
@ferdericole8661 Год назад
nice video and you are very soothing to listen to.
@bardandrebendiksen3987
@bardandrebendiksen3987 Год назад
Thanks for the tier list
@xgiLb
@xgiLb Год назад
Grats on 100k!
@SirMo
@SirMo Год назад
I played a healer on and off from Vanilla to WoD (Priest, Druid and Pally). Just got back to the game after 8 years. Thanks for a great overview as well as showing the actual clips of healing. Man healing is so different now. You actually do damage lol. Seems cool. Also I can't decide which healer to play, so much choice. I know Blizz will change the balance since this is a new expansion so I'm not sure just picking the current strongest healer is the best idea. I kind of like being different too. I'm maining a warlock atm, but I want to pick an alt healer. Leaning towards paladin only because at least I know what some of those spells do, so it will be easier to pick up.
@alinmeleandra3175
@alinmeleandra3175 Год назад
Pala was changed substantially from WoD to present day, while some of the abilities like Word of Glory did exist in Dreanor, most of the new core abilities and talents were introduced in Legion... Also in Legion the play style was changed from Ranged Healer to Mele Healer. Playing in Mele as a healer is not trivial since one little mistake can cause a group wipe (if you die, and there is no CR available everyone else will die in seconds). In BFA the main secondary stat became Haste, while previously was Crit. Crit was important for us due to the fact that HShock had a 50% increase chance to crit which meant that stacking Crit could lead to each Shock being a crit and that meant we would have had a 100% uptime on Infusion of Light proc.. Blizz nerf Shock crit chance in BFA while not changing the Mastery but also buffed the Holy Power (HP) spenders: Word Of Glory (WoG) and Light od Down (LoD) which meant that building up HP and spending it on WoG or LoD was more important than casting HL or LF.... Since Crusader Strike (CS) is a HP generator and there were talents that made CS interact with Shock (by reducing in CD), it meant that Haste became more important since Infusion was no longer guaranteed but we still needed to be able to cast the occasional Flash of Light (FL) or Holy Light (HL) but to get infusion we needed more Shock casts which is dependent on CD which is dependent on Haste... With the move from range to mele abilities like HL and FoL which used to be core in the past are now niche and only used occasionally and the reason for this is that in most occasions you do not have the time to do a hard cast, but both HL and FL can provide some usefulness when Infusion proc is active and, you do not need to move for any reason... Also, remember that pala lack strong AoE healing (Light of Down is quite good but requires incredibly good positioning and situational awareness and Beacon of Virtue is also strong but drains your mana like is nobody's business)... Playing pala is quite fun, but I find it quite challenging... you can give it a try but don't expect it to be the same as it was in Dreanor or you will find it "less fun"...
@seussiii
@seussiii Год назад
Dorki converted me but I still eat up your content too. Good video and nice way of displaying the ranking in the meters.
@ericcossette3999
@ericcossette3999 Год назад
Awesome stuff! Now we need guides about how to do as much damage as possible as a healer please.
@2NextLvL
@2NextLvL Год назад
Best tier list made so far. Tier lists are kind of a meme but the way you explain yours it actually makes sense. I also like the fact that you chose to mention that from place 4 onwards they are kind of even, preventing ranting of the lowest placed spec. This tier list is ofcourse focused on those 20+ keystones and maybe you could make a smaller faster video explaining what u think the tier list would be for those semi-hardcore 15-20 keys, also taking in mind the randomness of the pug groups.
@mehran2722
@mehran2722 Год назад
i didn't expect this ranking tbh xD
@leonardodolc666
@leonardodolc666 Год назад
great video!
@Nonann
@Nonann Год назад
Hey ! Thanks for the great content as always !! Really helpful and fun !
@SBqwerty
@SBqwerty Год назад
Good video thanks for the info
@matevzkosi1942
@matevzkosi1942 Год назад
Ty for great content growl !!
@brandonk99ign
@brandonk99ign Год назад
I do gotta say that for Resto Sham, it does seem like you have to focus a lot more on healing than have free time in order to do any dps.
@leachyboi567
@leachyboi567 Год назад
Oof sounds rough for disc.. With m+ seeming to just be more difficult across the board in dflight, at what level key do you think playing disc will become a problem? Great video btw, editing was on point. Congrats on the blockbuster Sponser
@Warkillable
@Warkillable Год назад
I always enjoyed playing as a Disc priest of healing and damage mitigation through shields. It was interesting when they made their damaging spells also provide heals so that they had a little bit of a middle ground of DPS and backup healing. Recently I have been playing Envoker to try the class out and it feels like a cross between Mage and Druid in my opinion.
@altusjp
@altusjp Год назад
Great Video!
@tomdalley84
@tomdalley84 Год назад
Cries in Disc
@lyricalfroge5219
@lyricalfroge5219 Год назад
Great breakdown
@jabeltre1
@jabeltre1 Год назад
I was nervous about Holy paladin, but it seems like they will be fine. So far really enjoyer invoker and mistweaver
@crashstarr6531
@crashstarr6531 Год назад
You may have said this elsewhere, but if you see this, what do you consider 'low', 'mid', and 'high' keys? Trying to consider your comments in the context of my personal goal of getting the KSM mount, and maybe pushing for the teleports.
@Arcturus_666
@Arcturus_666 Год назад
Awesome dude! Now too choose!
@d.p.1624
@d.p.1624 Год назад
Even tho disc is on last place, im gonna try it anyways. The way they changed it comparred to SL, it brings me so much fun.
@grip7777
@grip7777 Год назад
Evoker looks fun, gonna have to play that at the start at least, it's a bit too powerful probably damage-wise though so I'd expect a bit of a nerf going into mythic+ week honestly.
@Auntiebels
@Auntiebels Год назад
I haven't done anything on beta (got it shortly before pre patch) with dungeons for m+ or anything, but for evoker if you can stack three temporal anomaly into a stasis, its a very strong constant absorbtion for heavy pulsing aoes or aoe dots for a short duration while also leaving your other 30s or longer cooldowns ready to use. Basically, the amount of tools on evoker but not a lot of more consistent burst healing or aoe healing feels really nice because it forces some actual thinking, not as much as holy pally but it feels super nice. I'd rate holy pal and preservation as my top two in terms of fun!
@kylemussman4342
@kylemussman4342 Год назад
Congrats on all the new sponsors Grom!
@Oversear96
@Oversear96 Год назад
Great vid mate ! What addon are you using for party frames??
@ZackUribe_com
@ZackUribe_com Год назад
Sick, full Druid comp for highest keys, lets see it!
@JBPorter
@JBPorter Год назад
I'd love more info on your UI setup! Addons and everything.
@melancholy8881
@melancholy8881 Год назад
Dont care about healers but video edit is very pog!! Also very entertaining, even if you are dps or tank
@glennk44
@glennk44 Год назад
you know you've made it when that blockbuster sponsorship rolls in. grats grom!
@MrMouchys
@MrMouchys Год назад
Thanks for video ;-)
@trench6118
@trench6118 Год назад
Yep. Definitely felt like disc and mw could fall behind very easily - sad because they are both much better and more fun compared to the last few expansions
@Irades
@Irades Год назад
Thanks, friend
@Hagendazed
@Hagendazed Год назад
thx for the greats videos! I like your waffle tho
@fabianberntzen6141
@fabianberntzen6141 Год назад
Cool and informative video, kinda sad as a disc main, but still kinda like beeing the underdog :) gonna stick to it no matter What changes it gets !
@attinger117
@attinger117 Год назад
I love holy pala. You can combine so many tools now in the 20 pt tier it’s insane. I was playing a build with avenging crusader, awakening, glimmer, vanquisher hammer, maraads dying breath, divine toll, and beacon of virtue. Fat ass group heals and plenty of burst cds. The only thing is you go oom super fast.
@trench6118
@trench6118 Год назад
I haven’t tried beacon of virtue since legion. I’ll try that this weekend
@vanguelisk
@vanguelisk Год назад
@@trench6118 BoV is useful in bursting weeks
@joaocaju3061
@joaocaju3061 Год назад
@@trench6118 Man, those were the days. Zero AoE healing and undispelable Bursting Weeks. It was all about that Bestow Faith into Beacon of Virtue
@Ridingthewaves305
@Ridingthewaves305 Год назад
I'm a discipline priest main, this just encourages me even more!
@droogeydroogey8950
@droogeydroogey8950 Год назад
Everything I see in disc makes me want to play it. Just came back to wow and have been learning resto Druid, but I think I made a mistake!
@Ridingthewaves305
@Ridingthewaves305 Год назад
@@droogeydroogey8950 resto Druid is strong and will likely be of the best healers in the game. Disc just plays different than every else I love it
@droogeydroogey8950
@droogeydroogey8950 Год назад
@@Ridingthewaves305 yeah, the atonement setting and dps rotation to heal just seems so unique. Looks so fun
@benhoward3049
@benhoward3049 Год назад
oh the blockbuster ad. beautiful :)
@meatdotpopsikle
@meatdotpopsikle Год назад
Thanks for the positive disc comments. Think I’ll dig mine out.
@Mamaleche
@Mamaleche Год назад
ohhh my comment is so positive and the algorithm loves that i left it. thanks for the video!
@theusernameicoodfind
@theusernameicoodfind Год назад
Considering how low MW was in shadowlands do you take mystic touch into consideration when you calculate your dps for that healer? That 5% can add up if your party has like 2 physical dps.
@wheeze8189
@wheeze8189 Год назад
Unfortunately with the absurd strength of windwalker going into the xpac, it's gonna be rare that the MW is the only source of mystic touch in higher end groups. It certainly does help though!
@theusernameicoodfind
@theusernameicoodfind Год назад
@@wheeze8189 that is unfortunate. Sounds like a WW meta.
@Arkael1110
@Arkael1110 Год назад
Great video, I main enhancement and I'll only ever heal low keys so fourth place is fine with me lol
@robinr.2095
@robinr.2095 Год назад
love your content
@playerone3690
@playerone3690 Год назад
I've personally mained tank classes for xpac life. this xpac DF I figured I would go heals. Im currently on my first healer Holy Pally and I can I've had some really good games and then some really bad ones. Some dung I feel like a God and other dung I feel like I have no business being there lol. Overall I think I'm enjoying the play style of HP. I'm currently running the "caster" build and I feel more comfortable using this build vs the maarad/raid build(s). I plan on lvl'n up other healing classes as well to see which I actually like more. Appreciate your input though, good vid.
@Chad-mx1pd
@Chad-mx1pd Год назад
Ty for the vid =)
@wheeze8189
@wheeze8189 Год назад
So glad to hear you put MW in S tier! I haven't watched the video yet, but there's no way it's not S tier, right? Right?
@officialdabaws5228
@officialdabaws5228 Год назад
man i am pissed at what they did to mw. the 40% stam increase hit them hard af (harder than any other healer from what ive seen) then they hit them with a round of nerfs. once again, another expac where mistweaver is bottom....
@CrypticElements
@CrypticElements Год назад
@@officialdabaws5228 pov: you have no idea what ur talking about
@officialdabaws5228
@officialdabaws5228 Год назад
@@CrypticElements do i not? well thanks for informing me lol
@wheeze8189
@wheeze8189 Год назад
@@officialdabaws5228 I mean, the 40% stam increase hit all the healers equally hard, that was the point of nerfing stam instead of some other slider. The healing nerfs are small % that really only meaningly effect our healing throughput in raid, where every % matters. The reason mw is low on the chart is because we don't do a fantastic amount of burst healing and have very limited Single target damage
@officialdabaws5228
@officialdabaws5228 Год назад
@@wheeze8189 dunno, classes like druid, i was overhealing alot with hots cos it was so strong, not i feel like i get all the value out of hots and i dont often feel like x seconds of that hot was wasted on overhealing. just as an example. i mainly m+ and pvp, in pvp healing feels awful on mw since the stam change. and in m+ it pretty much feels like we're back to the same playstyle as shadowlands (a bit weaker truth be told), cant rely on damage to heal at all, stopping and hardcasting clunky awkwardness. this wasnt the case before the stam changes. i mean this is just my personal experiences so its purely anecdotal.
@denbeenour2247
@denbeenour2247 Год назад
nice vid. surprised u put disc so low but figures after your expl. gonna main druid this season after 16y of holy pally so i am curious :p
@loganboyd10
@loganboyd10 Год назад
Surprised to see HPal and RSham placements, but that’s a good thing. Will try them all anyway!
@Rawbherb
@Rawbherb Год назад
Ugh I miss when Disc was cool and was about absorption rather than the atonement thing. I wish they’d make atonement less of a focus, like useful if you have time to deal damage, but when there’s lots of healing needed Disc should be able to spam shields and shit
@dntthe88
@dntthe88 Год назад
As a former resto Shaman main my big issue with it is that it feels like it really got nothing interesting for talents. Even monk is significantly more fun with real fistweaving and most the other healers got some neat little changes that make them more synergistic and interesting but shaman just feels the same now matter how i build it.
@brewtank6738
@brewtank6738 Год назад
Could you make a video on your damage priority as a healer? I.e, if you were to parse on a pack of 1-2 mobs and 3-4 mobs what’s the priority system. Sunfire > moonfire all > swipe all? Hard to find this information on the best damage rotation for when I do keys and have slight downtime I’d like to maximize my dps
@MooshuMan
@MooshuMan Год назад
Amazing graphic....the details UI is awesome!
@UMCorian
@UMCorian Год назад
I can't decide if I should be happy or sad that pretty much the only critera that drops certain specs is how much damage they do.
@ero9685
@ero9685 Год назад
Love video.
@usernamejase
@usernamejase Год назад
What are those party frames? Super nice and clean!
@szudrinos3047
@szudrinos3047 Год назад
Great video as always growl YEP
@dominikschneeweihs9538
@dominikschneeweihs9538 Год назад
Nice!
@liangdar9675
@liangdar9675 Год назад
Just leaving a nice comment. Keep up the good work.
@Scarecrow345
@Scarecrow345 Год назад
Is having your skill bars right below your character and all of your party members health bars right to the left part of the normal UI or is that an add on? I'm looking to get into healing and want to have the best set-up I can to be useful
@moldgrim1
@moldgrim1 Год назад
Both the default UI and party frame addons (grid, elvui, etc) can be placed like that.
@nickh4354
@nickh4354 Год назад
YESSSS DADDY NEEDS ANOTHER TIER LIST BABY KEEP EM COMING (snorts a line of copium)
@greekttv3003
@greekttv3003 Год назад
What do you think your main will be for dragonflight? I finally decided on Evoker and Druid letting me cover all dispels required. I might bring my priest up too but since shadow is so down bad, I wanted I dps off spec I enjoy
@lokinxy
@lokinxy Год назад
i go rdruid>hpriest>evoker :)
@TheGoldenAngel82
@TheGoldenAngel82 Год назад
Preservation>holy pally>Rdruid Or Holy pally> Preservation> Rdruid For me.. haven't fully decided yet. And then all the other healers late expansion
@punker2534
@punker2534 Год назад
Hello Growl this is friends, well rounded video.
@bjlightnin
@bjlightnin Год назад
well done
@zendray
@zendray 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tier list, im coming from ff14, and was an all arounder there (play all types of classes), but i mainly healed. If you or really anyone has any tips for a newbie, it'd be really appreciated it!
@Zicru
@Zicru Год назад
A nice comment for the algorithm because I enjoyed the video.
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