Drake Combo vs Turbo Initiative | Quarterfinals 2 - Quest for the Best Pauper Deck Ever 

Drake Combo with some of the newer cards we have would feel so consistent. Lorien Revealed with it all would be incredible

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One more reason to hate initiative.

tbf, drake could have won game 2 but fizzled

Zero lands on a mull to 5 and he barely even feels it x(

Initiative was that busted.

Thank you so much for piloting the deck in the Swiss! You did a wonderful job :D

@@CardmarketMagic thanks :) was a blast!

Idk chief chatterstorm is absolutely insane. It 5-0 in the Swiss

I'm really torn between Initiative and Chatterstorm, that's probably going to be the finals though.

It's strong but it lost to aggro twice in the swiss round, Golbin and Delver both got the drop on it and Goblin is in the top 8 too. Tho I agree, to me turbo initiative and chatterstorm are like the two decks that are the big boogiemans of the tournament.

I personally feel like Glitters Affinity may beat Initiative if they go against each other, simply because Gingerbrute makes it so easy to take the Initiative from the opponent so it curbs some of the snowballing potential

Thank you :) that's very kind of you to say!

If you look at the raw output, in game 1, for example I did: Turn 2: Play a 3/7 that draws a card Turn 3: Play a 5/3 that deals 5 damage Turn 4: played a 1/4 flying that drew a card and put a 5/5 into Play And with a good hand this deck can start that on turn 1

It's free, automatic value that closes the games, it gives you mana, it gives you permanents, it draws you cards, it deals damage, it buffs your creatures, it's so OP it needed to be banned in legacy.

@@CardmarketMagic Also game 2 showed the resiliency of the right hand path when your hand is mid or your opponent disrupts you a lot but you just barely manage to take the initiative, you get to scry 2, get a treasure, then make a 4/1 menace, they seem designed for this exact deck to put you back in the game when all you have is the initiative and nothing else.

@@Eltharyon obviously true but let's compare it to the horrible underpowered mechanic venture into the dungeon, featuring the original trio for example which are pretty solid and way better base cards, cannot be stolen from you on attack and all of this with one HUGE downside - no upkeep trigger But generally effects that happen on next upkeep aren't game breaking. It's not that I somehow don't see the absurd value it generates, it's that when you look at it and pretend like you never saw it played, it doesn't look that much better than just venturing into the dungeon - a mechanic that never saw play, because it's like "well ok so 1 more small effect a turn on upkeep, what difference can that possibly make? I'll just play more efficient venture cards and the gap will be closed, no? " and the answer is somehow back breaking difference Now in fairness dungeon of the mage is only stronger if you reach the end and have payoffs and annihilation you need to build around etc Well obviously one mechanic is broken and the other is weak, but it's just that you gotta wonder with better cards and better payoffs venture just never worked in any format, not even standard, it's very hard to grasp how tiny little changes to the quality of each dungeon level (venture has a worse average level) and a single upkeep trigger can push this so far through the roof that a 1/4 flier for 4 becomes an acceptable card

@@blueplayer6197 The point is that initiative is essentially mana cheating by giving you free hard to interact with value. Whereas venture you have to keep contributing resources to get value.

Pestilence is going to face some difficulty unless Elves manages the upset against Chatterstorm. Feel like the finals might be Glitters vs. Squirrels after a tense semi against Initiative.

Nah Initiative just stomps the hands werent even that good

​@@devilbhrothesavage2807 Glitters has comparable speed, but enough bodies *_and_* evasion to scrap for the emblem. I _did_ forget that it was Jeskai instead of UW, so was imagining some Rebukes/other permission to better stuff resets. We'll have to see if 'gucci piloting a decently pet deck can make it past multiplayer mechanic abuse with Carl at the helm. Either way, likely a fun time.

This makes me wanna reimagine my initiative deck.

You did so well in the Swiss though! Beating those delver decks is not easy as a combo archetype! :)

I was the Drake swiss player (actually using my own 5-0 list from 2016): I was trashed by initiative and chatterstorm but won all the other matches. Power creep is terrible; those decks were at least 2 turn faster than whatever I could do. Definitely different formats

@apass7241 I think to drake have a chance against those decks it would need godhands with control responses for the first 3 or 4 turns and perfect draws... too much to ask lol

anybody have any other suggestions for channels like these

I always thought the same for Legacy

She will also be piloting Goblins in this tournament :)

Thank you: :)

She'll be piloting Golbins in this tournament as well :)

🤢🤮 Less child touching “women” please

Yeah im a bit worried for future rounds, if the initiative Deck wins with a hand like on the second game 😅.

She couldn't destroy the battlerager :) it has 5 toughness

You are right. That was a better line than what I played :)

The card we showed, The Initiative, the one that is on the table most of the time. It says "Enter the Undercity". We are playing decks famous for being banned or omnipresent 😅 misunderstanding their core mechanic is as realistic as pro basketball players not realizing they can dribble 😛

Another one could be a game between a deck of only commons (pauper), only uncommons, only rares, and only mythics (including lands).

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There are many reasons for this. Firstly, we simply don't have the budget to fly 8 people from around the world to Berlin and pay for their hotels just to shoot a handful of videos 😅 but the most important reason is that people watch this channel for us. We realized early on that whenever I had two pros play against each other, the video would often get half as many views. Even if it was beloved community staples like Frank Karsten vs Andrea Mengucci. Finally, I'd like to add that we are all rather capable magic players with various levels of competitive success :) it's not like we are piloting the decks poorly. I personally take a lot of time to learn the two archetypes I'm given at every tournament to make sure I give the viewers as close as possible to perfect play :)

​@@CardmarketMagic omg yeah, I wasn't trying to imply you were bad or piloting the decks poorly, sorry if it came out that way :o yall are great and the way you explain your choices is really insightful ! I just have a weak spot for those people who play the same deck again and again for years, good or bad, like Apass prob did with drake and currently does with walls ^-^ (I'm a wall player too) Thank you for taking the time to answer, it all makes alot of sense :) (I do love watching you haha) Also I wanna make clear that I love your content, thank you for making it and putting it out there for us to enjoy :) And a special thank you for helping bring attention to the Pauper format, it needs the visibility haha Can't wait to see the rest of the tournament, I hope chatterstorm wins ! :3

@tertmemelur1880 no worries! It was not taken as criticism :) maybe one day we'll have the budget to film the Swiss rounds and you'll get to see people like Apass play! Maybe even playing walls :D

@@CardmarketMagic I'll be thrilled to see that, and I'll be thrilled to see whatever you guys come up with the budget you have ^-^

Felix not only has 5 boots but also is awesome! I hope you enjoyed our Slime Against Humanity episode :)

@@CardmarketMagic I did! I actually forgot that was a card but then my brother pulled one from a pack and gave it to me so that was rad!

You get a good display of that!

Yeah the good old benefit of hindsight. Totally agree but playing the tapland was probably still very correct. The draw becomes so slow without it but it didnt pan out ideally - thats for sure :/

Don't worry :) we've stopped the top5 videos as of last week

@@CardmarketMagic amazing, you guys keep creating great stuff!

Yes of course! But I don't recommend getting it for yourself :P it is very banned in pauper

Curfew returns her only creature to hand too, and also both creatures she didn't block had Menace so Carl was always returning the Sneak she blocked to hand.

@@Norgodir Oh, you're right, I didn't read it correctly. It says "each player". Thanks.

Any card that was printed at common at least once is legal in pauper :)

Any card that was printed at common in either MTGO or paper.

No, no uncommons (silver symbol), only commons (black symbol)

Yes but only with a creature. It only counts combat damage

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