Update: - Forgot to mention but she's also rumored to he behind why Illit member youngseo left so early. - Min heejin later responded and denied trying to leave HYBE. She thinks that the timing of all of this is to sabotage nwjns as they are about to have a comeback - Alongside ILLIT, she also accuses TWS and RIIZE of copying NewJeans
@@AyonaJose-f8q ik an unresponsive adult got nothing to do with minors she should know that her attacking minors ruins her image and literally not a good reason at all
@@JessChillN_it’s mostly the aesthetic and wardrobe, it’s y2k which newjeans kinda brought back. but honestly they do sorta look alike, look at moka and haerin, minju and hanni, yunah and minji. theyre obviously all asian but it’s like they’re tryna do what newjeans did right
If ever MHJ gets kicked out as CEO, New Jeans won't get disbanded. Hybe isn't that dumb, they're money hungry. However, I think the signature, identity, and artistic direction for New Jeans would change a lot.
It’s actually kind of concerning how she exposed HYBE’s artists information to the media and if she was behind Garam getting kicked out that’s just disgusting she was literally a child
@@Singularitaeethe former member of ILLIT just so happen to be a former trainee of ador and was actually training along side new jeans during her time there
@kkurakisseverybody wait really? Then it makes sense that MHJ leaked both Garam and Youngseo's info and Youngseo left bfr debut so she can prevent thing that happened to Garam but poor Garam suffered from it....
yeah, no im not gonna believe anything and everything I see/hear on the internet esp a 45 sec yt shorts. it's because the public opinion is this easily swayed, innocent artists keep getting booted off 😂 don't blindly believe any of this!!!
Omg you litteraly read my mind! It would be such a waste if great talent is once again thrown away due to some selfish reasons regarding the company :( Lets pray for Newjeans and hope that everything turns out fine 💗
Anybody talking about disband. Don't worry, they aren't some nugu group. Even if Hybe try to disband they will be approached by other labels and investors. They are already established in Korea.
Bro why did she do so As a Fearnot it is still hard for me to accept that garam left the group and now that I know that she did that the firs spreaded.... Garam would be in Lsf still I miss her 😢😢😢
Lol her wrong doings were always in front of our eyes. It was just bunnies covering them up and not being ready to accept that she is a horrible person.
I believe that min hee jin is more obsessed with her popularity rather than her group if someone is king or queen maker they should put all the highlights on them but she always credited herself for new jeans success rather than praising new jeans and not giving credit of their success to them , where as if you will bang pd had always set top priority to put bts in limelight from starting for their efforts in music and their comebacks and music they made he made sure public knew that its bts members who made what BTS is now today
her "reason" is such bs and is clearly just an excuse to try to make it sound reasonable as to why she did all that shit. i dont think newjeans will be affected much by this but their music and concept might see a noticeable difference as mhj was the one behind all of that. we all knew mhj was a horrible person and a creep since the start but its sad to see illit and newjeans get caught in the crossfire and it seems like this would affect illit since they still arent very established and are very disliked by a lot of netizens and bunnies unfortunately.
No evidence that she did all that shit though. Without her fresh concept, New jeans wouldn't get this popular like now. And illit's producer basically copy paste that fresh concept. Anyone would get mad if their works are copied, especially from the same company.
@@minhmeo5010hybe collected plenty of evidence theyre just not sharing it with the public which is literally what they discussed at the shareholders meeting mentioned before. if you actually do the research you'll see hybe literally conducted an investigation and full audit of ador and found the evidence to back up their claims. also newjeans has a fresh, pop, cool, y2k-2010s american nostalgia concept meanwhile illit is more dreamy ethereal, cute, retro, east asian 90s-y2k, 8bit/anime concept which is not even remotely close. NOTHING about illit shows similarities with newjeans aside from the fact both groups have 5 pretty asian girls
@@minhmeo5010there are literal evidence tho...like hate Hybe all you want but one thing about this company when they sue they go all out be it evidence or their no leniency policy. Also New jeans doesn't own Y2K or dreamcore concept
@@minhmeo5010girl, Min Heejin didn't create new Jeans concept, she just popularized it. As incompetent as YG is, I doubt theyd get pissy over another girl group having the same or similar concept to their group, at least not in public, that goes for majority of CEOs. Min Heejin is down right unprofessional, and is possiblly doing illegal things.
@@minhmeo5010so you're saying this concept copying thing is an excuse to all the shady stuff she did see how hybe told that she leaked private informattions, tried to get independent and shit and her reply was illit is copying new jeans girl fix your brain new jeans are in damger rn iam not saying hybe is a saint either but for now its better for them
@@shirleymay.35 For Cookie, it was rumored that there's a s€xual double meaning if we take the lyrics in the English way. And for ETA, it's supposed to mean in the song Estimated Time of Arrival but it's also the name of a t€rrorist organization.
She needs to leave because all of this is her fault in the first place and no one can trust her anymore , i hope new jeans will be ok and get a better ceo for the company and i hope this doesn't happen again
It was very suspicious that all hybe debut were spoiled except new jeans it was totally surprising, and how come after 2021 all hybe groups were getting in back to back scandle and till date new jeans got none , it was all very suspicious now we know
At first I thought nah, lsfm scandal caused by MHJ is probably too much speculation at this point but when I read the story of how MHJ was actually at source music making a group with them and then broke away because of concept differences and disagreements... I just hope it isn't true and I'll stay neutral for now.
Okay, you can go on about Illit not copying new jeans (which they most certainly did), but saying they have NOTHING in common is total bullshit, unless you’re blind
@@YouknowMimisParplaveOrffrr ...I feel like the illit concept is very similar to NJ...feel really bad for NJ their comeback is coming soon and now this is happening...
seventeenisrightthere I don't get how cool highschool kitsch/ boycrush concept is similar to cutesy aegyo. Maybe their songs? but then you can just say all catchy kpop songs are copying NJ. I don't see it. and again, I defintitely like NJ more cause I am not in to cutesy stuff except when KARA did it.
seventeenisrightthere And you misunderstand me, I don't see it. Same with BP and 2ne1. Just cause they have a similar theme/or genre doesn't mean they are similar themselves. BP came out distinctly different from 2ne1. They still a YG group so they still have YG energy but that's it. Illit is even less like NJ to me. They don't even have the same genre.
proud to say that ive been a min heejin hater from the beginning, get that woman OUT of hybe and away from newjeans, there's a reason SM didn't want her anymore.
I never liked her although her concepts were top tier... But I couldnt have imagined in a million years that this woman could pull of such a stunt 😮 she's legit crazy and way too selfish. How she thought that she could deceive a huge corporation like Hybe is beyond me...
@@divx1001 probably looked at Givers and Attrakt situation then thinking shw could successfully pull it off since she recently had everything she wanted --> her own label when she's just supposed to help Source debut a new gg, increased shares etc. lol, those who will be swayed by her are the emotional gullible ones
Initially Bang and MHJ wanted to start a new girl group together as a collaboration with Source Music but they didn't agree on the groups concept. So Bang decided to let her do her own thing and she started Ador. Alot of what Ador has was originally from Source music. They basically took everything from Source Music from directors/trainees/producers. The only major one who stayed was the performance director Amy Soyeon who went to Le Sserafim. 4 members of NJ were SM trainees. I think only Hyerin was an actual MHJ pick. Yunjin was also heavily rumored to be a New Jeans member since she trained with Hanni and Minji but got cut since MHJ wanted to go with younger concept with NJ. That was Yunjin's last hope so she basically quit being an idol and went back to school. Source Music was basically gutted at this point and was losing money since they didn't really have anybody. SM basically paid for most of NJ training period before they left for Ador. Gfriend also disbanded a little bit after this all went down. So Bang got heavily involved and started his own girl group Le Sserafim. I don't really see her being behind Garam but seeing how MHJ basically screwed over Source Music. Bang then went on to do his own thing and make Le Sserafim which ended up saving Source Music after they made it profitable a year after their debut. MHJ being as narcissist as she is, LSF sucess no doubt pissed her off.
Wondering where did you get all these info because I don't think it was ever publicly mentioned that NJ was sm trainees? Plus this feels like such insider info. Just curious
@@zZNightDiamonZz bcoz source music x bight global audition was done by source music. Minji was the actress in that audition ad video. Even hanni herself said that after seeing that video of minji she auditioned. We know yunjin was trainees with hanni. Min heejin was only hired to work as the creative director. Whatever lineup, it was actually to be debuted under source music so basically alot of the trainees were under sm. Later ador was created as a subsidiary label by hybe and made mhj ceo. Alot of trainees were probably transferred then. Now that the global audition was completely gone and wasted, i bet sm lost a lot of money on it. No wonder Lesserafims lineup had 2 experienced idols + yunjin who's experienced as well in the industry. Only 2 members were new. It was easy to pick things up than start from scratch.
Source paid for NJ’s training and then had to debut LSF super quick. Technically NJ’s training debt was covered by the profits LSF made… so maybe that’s why they can’t afford vocal lessons
Shes literally scrambling to find something or anything to save her ass like ??😭😭 Hybe: We have proof that you tried to manipulate public opinion about our artists etc etc MHJ: they copied me🥺🥺
@@Ichigo29ify exactly!! Some ppl are so gullible 😭😭 this evil witch has now dragged even BTS into this like she doesn't need court she needs asylum atp😭😭
@@Ichigo29ifyfr the way she's trying to divert thins because bunnies already mad on tge illit and newjeans thing and some of these stupid people actually are going the way she wamts to is insane yall say you want to save new jeans then support min heejin 😭😭
@@MrPenguin-yx8bf People who think they are different are either delulu or hate nwjns for some reason and want them replaced, there is no other explanation.
Exactly they are completely different the only think that’s the same is treat they’re young girls having fun😂I’ve been saying this everywhere the only people who say that are people who aren’t fans of either of them to clown them both. Then dumb NJs fans probably little kid bunnies see that and say “see everyone thinks they look the same” like bruh they don’t mean it they’re making fun of them and you😭😭But like I said their either young or older and don’t have social skills so they can’t read people, it’s so annoying cause it just cause more probable me that neither group needs😡😭
Exactly they are completely different the only think that’s the same is treat they’re young girls having fun😂I’ve been saying this everywhere the only people who say that are people who aren’t fans of either of them to clown them both. Then dumb NJs fans probably little kid bunnies see that and say “see everyone thinks they look the same” like bruh they don’t mean it they’re making fun of them and you😭😭But like I said their either young or older and don’t have social skills so they can’t read people, it’s so annoying cause it just cause more probable me that neither group needs😡😭
i used to think Min Heejin was trusted, now i’m not so sure, if you’re rumored to be behind all these scandals, it’s so messed up. newjeans shouldn’t disband
Ok I don’t wanna believe everything on yt shorts but like… youngseo was so dedicated with debuting and this is especially seen on runext. Her leaving bc of “personal reasons” was so sus bc she almost succeeded bc illut debut was so soon. Considering she trained under ador, this situation being real is very plausible
i dont get min heejin at all… she says that she does all of this bc illit is copying newjeans, but illit has a rlly different concept that i’m surprised a director and artist couldn’t differentiate.. since shes being accused of being the reason behind all these scandals like with garam, chaewon, and soobin, but these all happened before the group (illit) even debuted, especially the garam case… I really hope this doesn’t interfere with illits and newjeans success as they are both really talented groups that show a lot of potential
Bc the reason behind that scandal is not her, like you said it all happened before illit debut. Garam's scandal is bc of kakao, it wouldn't make sense if it was her bc newjeans also debuted around the same time as its gonna affect newjeans too. For seunghan's, everyone and their grandma knows that seunghan's scandal is bc of his highschool friend. Soobin's scandal is bc of netizens, i saw it in real time after his live. The allegations that she revealed idols personal info is newjeans's photo before they debuted, and the medical info is about hyein's teeth predebut. Like i understand if she did something illegal if theres an evidence, but shorts like this just add new drama from random sources. Hybe only said she revealed idols personal info, they didnt say shit about shes the one behind other idols scandal. Remember how shorts like this is also the one who ruined garams careers bc they keep adding drama even tho hybe always defending her. And for copying, its different when the one copying is random people and when its your own boss. I understand why shes mad because people keep associated illit with her, that means its similar enough for netizen to be mistaken. If what she said is correct, shes already complained about this to hybe but hybe didn't care. Im not defending her or anything, if she really did stocks illegally then shes also wrong, but just remember to watch this kind of video with a grain of salt. I also hope that it doesn't interfere with both groups, i think they both deserve success, i feel bad bc they get dragged with companies drama
I just hope that she leaves, but I'm scared of what will happen to Newjeans. And if she is the one behind Garams scandal. She destroyed a young girl's dream and I could never forgive her. And ILLIT is NOT copying Newjeans.
Shes not the one behind garams scandal, its kakao ent. The allegations that said she revealed artists personal info is newjeans members predebut photo and the medical info is about hyein's teeth predebut. Seunghan's scandal is also not her, its his highschool friend. Soobin's one is purely netizen bc it happened after his live, i saw it real time. Maybe she did other illegal things we dont know, but we shouldn't be blatantly believing everything especially from shorts like this who always makes drama. Remember that shorts like this is one of the reasons why garam is kicked out, many people believing info from random sources even tho hybe was defending her. This time idk who is right, shes wrong if she did illegal things but hybe is not innocent either, they're powerful enough to stir the media and dispatch is always siding with them.
@@eemmanemss In summary: -Gfriend disband bcs of adore(not confirmed) -most of source music manpower went to adore✅ -source music have no trainee ready to debut no funds and no employees✅ -They start le sserafim with the little thing they have left but BSH had a concept in mind so big hit's empoyees transfered to source✅
MinHeejin doesn't deserve to be the producer of NewJeans, (also doesn't derseve to be a ceo) and if NewJeans disbands it will be so sad and HYBE is going to lose alot of their money and sales, after BTS became more popular worldwide and in Korea HYBE has started to get money hungry.
I swear Min Hee Jin is literally crazy someone needs to bring this woman into a mental institution and if she’s the reason behind the garam scandal and the reason why Youngseo left then that’s just messed up she crushed 2 innocent girls dreams because of greediness and I don’t think companies would want to plagiarise from a woman who gives inappropriate songs to her groups filled with literal children and tries to sneak in a 9/11 reference in Red Velvets debut MV
If you're trying to defend min heejin this way because she created nj this is wrong she'll keep leaking infos and what not and who knows when she'll have to get away with things she could throw new jeans under fire how she literally mention groups like riize tws about copying nj instead of directly addressing the allegations she could use those girls image to get what she wants we need to protect new jeans i am not saying hybe is good either but if min heejin stays in ador new jeans will probably be in danger remember this is not her first time getting caught up doing shady thing no wonder she was kicked out of sm
Come on HYBE has been managing BTS TXT Enhypen for soo log all the groups have distinct and great concepts with whole storylines and what not albums after albums of great music they can manage Newjeans... And would you rather the girls be safe or have a consistent concept? Plus it's not like SHE was writing, producing, composing the songs or was directing the MV they have entire team for that... The girls would be fine maybe even better without someone like her
Money hungry!? 🤔 She's talking about herself 😂 thats the caused of this drama. She did not even deny the accusation against her instead she blame the other artist for copying. Most of the time too much success can lead to greediness and stupidity
“Money hungry” new jeans started a trend, lots of groups now want to have y2k concept, that’s what’s most popular now and people like to stay with the trends
Just imagine new jeans disband man...life will be meaningless...... They have worked so hard for their comebacks and now if they disband this will be really sad😢
they probably will be very sad if that happens but they are very young, life isn't over for them, there will be other opportunities for them to grab especially bc they are so loved
I just hate that MHJ keeps on bringing other groups names in this conversation. She brought in ILLIT,RIIZE, and TWS saying how all three of them copied he look. Yeah ILLIT looks really similar to Newjeans’s concept, but this whole drama started because she was doing illegal activities like giving away information of trainees, healthcare information, and family information, and there’s also rumors about how she was the one that was leaking information about other HYBE groups to makes hybe reputation bad. This whole drama should just leave out other K-pop groups and have the idols enjoy what they worked hard for (including Newjeans), and just try solving problems without bringing in the idols.
tbh, After hearing about this controversy the first thing that popped up in my mind was Kim Garam as le Sserafim was never intended to debut before New Jeans.
I feel so bad for new jeans because they don't get a chance to be in tv also but lesseraafim always be in a tv show they should also give a chance to new jeans I hope new jeans deserves very better ☺️
she definitely lying she definitely caused all of that and then just used illit “copying “ newjeans to cover up why she tried to make ador independent because if anything illit dosent give newjeans they give early loona and red velvet.
min heejin is literally a devil in disguise. fans say that min heejin treats newjeans as like her “daughters”. no way. min heejin is so problematic, she should leave hybe entertainment for good. she shouldn’t be associated with newjeans nor ador/hybe in any way. hybe is slowly getting hungry for money.. and yet hybe doesnt even treat their groups properly. yes, i stan the groups in hybe but i do agree that hybe IS money hungry.
Hybe is a business it supplies all resources, financial backing and music distribution for each label. All labels under hybe work independently. So how is hybe money hungry they all get pay their share based on contract agreement.
@@nicoleloss7987 Firstly, their groups have no proper training Whatsoever. They make tons of groups and invest their money yes, and people buy the group’s albums. But honestly, hybe’s groups have not so good vocals. Le sserafim & ILLIT has been the main target for hate because of their bad singing. People are still buying things from hybe. Its clear hybe only cares about visual and not talent.
@@haertsnisshybe doesn’t train the artists tho or have authority to choose who debuts, that’s the labels job. each separate label has their own staff. i agree hybe may be money hungry but they have nothing to do with the training of idols. the only thing i’ve heard is that bang si hyuk helped produce illit’s debut album
She is fucking crazy. Lol. Newjeans n illit literally have different concept .newjeans have a fresh rnb concept nd illit the girly n cute concept .also before , she also said that riize was coping newjeans .even if they copy so what nwjns didn't own any concept ....
It’s disgusting of her to claim to be newjean’s mother and seeing them as her children while also leaking private information and ruining other innocent idols reputations 🤢
So she was upset that hybe is money hungry trying to copy NJ while also trying to get ADOR all for herself doing all kinds of crazy stuff after it became famous to ruin hybe and other artists who helped her grow... crazy her actions are not even fair and she keeps on trying to include innocent people in the process
Min Heejin is so delusional. How can you say someone is copying your concept when you didn't even make it?? She's got some nerve, and it's giving JoJo Siwa thinking she created 'Gay Pop'. The Y2K, fresh concept has been around for a while. She's basically just accusing any group with a fresh concept of copying her. The music doesn't even sound alike at all between most of the groups she's accusing. Not to mention, if HYBE has legitimately found evidence of her doing illegal things, she's still doing something illegal. Why is she so pressed that another group under HYBE has a similar concept? NWJNS is an influential group, so of course, they would popularise a concept. Just like BP popularised Girl Crush. Shouldn't you be happy that your group is so influential?? Edit: I just want to add, what motivation does HYBE have to sabotage NWJNS??? Like it actually makes no sense. NWJNS are under HYBE and are probably a huge source of money for the label bc they're so popular. Why would they want to sabotage one of their most popular groups???
Do you know what's the most disgusting part? It's between new jeans' sub label and ador but everyone for some reason has to go after txt for everything that happens to hybe They think we moas are weak? We have tons of moas too nowadays and more the quantity more the toxicity so stop coming at us and our idols for your problems
Well when illit came Out people literally compared them To Newjeans so as their concept so yea hype need to something new not another copypaste.. but I hope none of my Girls faces any people cause Newjeans is on a role atm ! Hybe need to calm down with The debuts and focus on the ones that’s making the Company shine !!! Newjeans themselves only been out for 2 years !
Bang Si Hyuk, the founder of Hybe is playing dirty by framing MHJ trying to betray Hybe. In fact, he is the one who discriminate Newjeans. He strongly opposed MHJ’s NJ concept in term of selection of members & debut songs (Attention, Ditto). He also once forced MHJ to take Sakura & Chaewon into her first Hybe girl group when MHJ first entered Hybe, but was denied by MHJ. (Sakura & Chaewon didn’t match the vibes MHJ wanted for her girl group project). Bang took this personally and hated MHJ eversince. He never took group photo with NJ members, neither congratulate them despite of their oustanding perfomance worldwide. Instead he is using Lesserafim and Illit, the girl groups he created to compete with NJ. Now since he is debuting Illit with the concept similar to NJ, it is clear that he try to play dirty to disband MHJ and Newjeans because he just cannot defeat NJ (such as recent bad reputation of Lesserafim in Coachella perfomance). He is a man with big ego, refuse to lose to a woman.
Well, according to her press conference, min hee jin joined hybe at source music to form a new girl group. At source music, only trainee she found suitable for the group she wanted to make was minji. Others were too old or not that skilled for the group she had in mind. So, source music held auditions for this new min hee jin group where they found other members of newjeans. Newjeans was to be the first girl group to debut under hybe. Then, somewhere around in 2021, former i*zwon members, who already had fan base sakura and chaewon joined hybe. And Bang si hyuk wanted to form a group around them, as he had (according to mhj press conference) plans of 'crushing' aespa. And of course a group with already two famous members had more probability to do well than a brand new group. But, according to mhj she didn't want to discard newjeans, as members had worked very hard for debut and their parents were worried too. So, as a solution hybe subsidiary ador was formed, mhj was a paid ceo then (and i assume, no shares then). Min hee jin claims to have paid the training costs of members to source music. Lesserafim debuted first and got the promotion as first gg ubder the label. According to mhj since then Bang si hyuk and hybe sabotaged her. They didn't let her promote newjeans before debut, hence the sudden debut. When, Newjeans entered billboard charts with omg, much before lesserafim's easy she was sent sarcastic message "are you enjoying this?" by bang si hyuk. Mhj claimed that new jeans was never promoted as much as their labelmates. And she continuously faced workplace bullying. Then, illit was formed under be:lift lab which is a joint venture between bighit and cjenm, enhypen is also under them. Which mhj claimed copied her formula (in an interview, she stated that it's not y2k style she is talking about, it's her formula, her interpretation of 2000's y2k, they blatantly copied that too under the same label). Hybe trying to end the existence of newjeans by debuting a group with almost same concept in the parent company. She claimed that illit 's choreography is too similar to newjeans. When, she raised these questions inside the company, they triedto accuse her of usurping management rights when it's damn clear to anyone that no one can do it with only 20%in shares. They have been media playing by accusing her of statements she never made, like bts, tws, riize copied her and things she had nothing to do with like shaman, making her into a weird person so that nobody believes her as she already doesn't have that good of image whereas she is just trying to get justice for new jeans. Sorry for the long comment, but it was a long conference. Well no side is flawless, but sentiments of korean netizens are right now with mhj as she seems like every other korean office worker who is victim of office politics. She worked hard made new jeans work, bang si hyuk got inferiority complex, created illit, when worker raised voice accused her of usurping and now trying to kick her out. Just another big corporate vs individual drama.
I think there’s nothing wrong with calling them sister groups lmao. Like technically lesserafim is also there sister group bc they are in hybe. It’s not that deep. It’s fine if she doesn’t want there names to be associated with each other but she literally did the with new jeans saying they are gonna be the next bts. And weather you like or hate illit for whatever reason that may be, the girls don’t seem to be trying to copy new jeans. Like even if someone says “Oh there debute song gives off the same vibe as New jeans,” that’s still not copying. It’s not like they stole a specific beat, and when it comes to clothes illit has more of a cute concept then New jeans ever had and they Aren’t Y2K at all. The only thing similar about them is that it’s 5 members in hybe. And illit was t even supposed to be 5 members to begin with but sadly one of the members had to leave for personal reasons. So weather you think illit sucks or not they aren’t really doing anything that’s copying new jeans. Them having a similar “vibe” as new jeans for there debute isn’t illegal and then having a school concept isn’t illegal either. So, I love new jeans and they are my ult girl group but that women is delusion for saying that.
LOOK!!!!!! New jeans are associated with bts, now iLLit is associated with newjeans. as a senior should be proud? whether it's copying or flagiarism🤔 heres the little karma lol but whatever is clear is that you have to be successful and progress together, not compete internally (1 label) don't forget or disappoint your BTS seniors who have worked hard to create the name HYBE. Either ILLIT OR NEWJEANS WITHOUT HYBE they are nothing, and of course HYBE WITHOUT BTS they're NOTHING. Dont be over Confidence OKAY! 😊😊😊🎉
imagine 10 girls just trying to achieve their dreams to debut as a kpop idol but as they debut.. they get used as shields and get into drama because of their stupid company and mhj
Not trying to be mean when I heard about this min heejin thing I saw a photo of her and searched of right after if she was an alcoholic because she kind of looked like it.
Her being the cause of the artists' scandals and them being kicked out doesn't even make sense. No one said that and they're all rumours made by drama hungry people. Kpop stans need to use their brain when it comes to rumours 'cause y'all believe anything fr
