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Draymond Green Says Lebron James is the Greatest Player of All Time! The Shop LA Lakers Warriors NBA. Golden State Warriors Draymond Green says Lebron James of the Los Angeles Lakers is the greatest player of all time on the Shop Uninterrupted. NBA Russell Westbrook, Anthony Davis, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green interview. Draymond Green podcast. NBA news, Lakers news. NBA on ESPN. ESPN First Take today. NBA today. Lebron James Jerry Jones. Lebron James lying.

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@blacktopbuckets
@blacktopbuckets Год назад
MJ or Bron?
@ShowtimeMaury
@ShowtimeMaury Год назад
bron
@domudeh3691
@domudeh3691 Год назад
Bron . draymond green explained it perfectly.
@DirtyDev
@DirtyDev Год назад
MJ
@torianowilliams7276
@torianowilliams7276 Год назад
Bron stars MJ plummers
@sideshowbobsaget8876
@sideshowbobsaget8876 Год назад
@@torianowilliams7276 plummer Shaq dominated the 00s
@Clear256
@Clear256 Год назад
Draymond has a great point that Lebron managed to stay on top in a rapidly changing league
@qdontae6
@qdontae6 Год назад
MJ played the 80s 90s n 00s
@TherefslovesMichaelJordan
@TherefslovesMichaelJordan Год назад
@Topjunkie true but lebron evoled league
@qdontae6
@qdontae6 Год назад
@@TherefslovesMichaelJordan nah that’s Curry
@TherefslovesMichaelJordan
@TherefslovesMichaelJordan Год назад
@@qdontae6 there weren't athletic point forwards in 80s 90s
@qdontae6
@qdontae6 Год назад
@@TherefslovesMichaelJordan Bird n Pippen was the original
@MrKay1619
@MrKay1619 Год назад
Much respect for Draymond for this much needed truths
@adammckennen5252
@adammckennen5252 Год назад
People forget it’s a team game. But lebron plays basketball better than jordan
@MrKay1619
@MrKay1619 Год назад
@@adammckennen5252 facts
@thinkcritically6373
@thinkcritically6373 Год назад
No 😂🤣..... Mj is categorically and empirically far superior than lebron 😂. The eye test, individual/team accolades, and deep metric analytics prove mj was significantly better all-round 🎯...
@nbagoats4819
@nbagoats4819 Год назад
Draymond just called Curry the GOAT over both MJ and Lebron. Uh oh. Your biased hypocrisy is about to be exposed.
@Los150
@Los150 Год назад
The best point here is Lebron remained the best player in the NBA through multiple changes in how teams are assembled and how the game is played. I lived through the Jordan era and I’ve never seen the league go through that many changes from ‘03 to now and one guy still dominated his craft through it all with little to no drop off. He’ll never be associated with cliches like “He was great but the game passed him by.” He doesn’t have to your personal goat, but his greatness is undeniable.
@duckytm777
@duckytm777 Год назад
The thing is we also saw mj at lebrons age range currently and we saw the drop off also considering the years of rest he had bron has never taken a break
@seigi007
@seigi007 Год назад
Funny thing is he was not the greatest player in 2014-2023 2014 is durant 2015-16 is curry 17 Westbrook 18 harden 19-20 giannis nicola on 21-22 joel in 23 i dont see lebron on 14 to 23. What the hell are they saying that lebron is the best till 2020's he is not even the best player in his team now.
@Axoneba-hp1by
@Axoneba-hp1by 8 месяцев назад
@@seigi007lol u need to stfu u make no sense🤣
@Axoneba-hp1by
@Axoneba-hp1by 8 месяцев назад
@@seigi007bron beat them all in those years
@GrahamCStrouse
@GrahamCStrouse Месяц назад
Well said!
@VANCOUVERHOUSEFINDER
@VANCOUVERHOUSEFINDER Год назад
Dray has matured so much . Respect
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@clinical_caliber
@clinical_caliber Год назад
@@kingtrawal get a life
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
@@clinical_caliber Am i lying? Don't cry, Bronsexual.
@michaelmurphy-downey6952
@michaelmurphy-downey6952 Год назад
@@kingtrawalMJ wouldn’t have won against the warriors with KD
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
@@michaelmurphy-downey6952 Loser, most people think the 96 Bulls would beat the '17 Warriors. Google it. Learn how to read, Bronsexual LOLLLLL
@Aurinna
@Aurinna Год назад
LeBron is the goat
@tcmb3434
@tcmb3434 Год назад
The Goat of Losing in the finals 😂 but I can see why you think that, this is the era where winning isn’t everything. Most LeBron fans look at him carrying his teams to 2 finals losses as a win 😂 crazy
@Aurinna
@Aurinna Год назад
​@@tcmb3434 Appreciate what you see now, no disrespect to MJ, we can actually argue about whos the greatest when bron's career is over.
@QuavoGotFame
@QuavoGotFame Год назад
@@tcmb3434 it’s not just about winning correct. Now if you wanna make all about winning you already know what I’m gonna say. Robert horry is better than lebron, Kobe and Jordan. Now as for lebron carrying those two teams to the finals. Nobody in the history of the nba could ever come close to doing that. Now as for lebron losing in the finals. Besides than 2011 and and 2014 all I can say is basketball is a team sport and if Kevin Durant didn’t join the warriors best believe lebron would have 6 rings right now lol. 2017 and 2018 lol
@QuavoGotFame
@QuavoGotFame Год назад
@@Aurinna oh we can do it now I say lebron is better right now let’s argue.
@tcmb3434
@tcmb3434 Год назад
@@QuavoGotFame Olajuwon and Dirk both carried their teams to Championships and won, so Lebron carrying his teams to finals losses gets canceled out. Lebron never won a chip without at least one Hall of Famer on his squad, and averaged 17 in a NBA finals vs Mavericks. He got too many L’s to be the goat.
@justlove3140
@justlove3140 Год назад
Draymond is a high IQ player and understands the game better than most. No one (GOAT status) has ever (except Bill Russel(10)) or will again, carry their team to 9 straight finals
@justlove3140
@justlove3140 Год назад
​@@xgnofearzthe10thgenlegend82 Your response shows me two things. One, you are just a fan of the game, not a student. Two, it shows me your hater driven history lesson excludes that Bill is not only respected by all hall of fame players. He was an olympic level athlete, not just for basketball. Also, he played while American racism was widely accepted behavior, in Boston of all places, which in still one of the more racist cities to this day. He did what he did for his city, yet was not loved by his own fans. Ungrateful is what you bring to the table. Get it? This is you, projected onto an athletic art form. Shameful. You are likely a young teen ager that has a lot to learn about life. No one will ever win more than 11 rings. This I guarantee.
@justlove3140
@justlove3140 Год назад
​@@xgnofearzthe10thgenlegend82 Wow, it gets worse, you're over 60 years old and project on others what your mother or father referred to you as a child perhaps? Your lack of growth as a human is extremely uninspiring. You are disrespectful, that is the point to my response. Lack of education, stopped learning at an early age, settled for a job that paid the bills, and gave up on doing anything substantial, and resentful to everyone for it, including yourself. Im I getting through? It's humorous yet sad how people think they are tough, but in reality simply are eking their way through life to understand its meaning, while living underneath a comfy blanket of trauma. I actually played basketball at a high level before injury, so yes it's a different level of understanding one would have than watching the game from the cheap seats, season after season. It's simple to distinguish a player from a fan. Season tickets...please. Defer trying to impress me with your attempt at proving me out to be someone you always were...it's painfully embarrassing to experience. Now that Ive castrated you, I'll be the "mature" one and walk away.
@t0ky0balling57
@t0ky0balling57 Год назад
Draymond went from calling bron a b***h to riding his meat like no one else lmfao 🤣🤣
@TrenchBaby13
@TrenchBaby13 Год назад
Just Bc he stated facts it’s meat riding?
@t0ky0balling57
@t0ky0balling57 Год назад
@@TrenchBaby13Bruh their friendship is fake as hell it’s so obvious 😭😭
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 Год назад
He's known to latch on other's success. Curry and Bron.
@qdontae6
@qdontae6 Год назад
@@TrenchBaby13 what facts? He ain’t surpass Kobe til he fell off
@Lultwin96
@Lultwin96 Год назад
So he d riding because he telling the truth
@blue-phoenix115
@blue-phoenix115 Год назад
It makes perfect sense why Draymond would pick Lebron over MJ because it subtly elevates Draymond and Warriors status for beating the GOAT 3-1 in the Finals. If it weren't for the Warriors, Lebron would probably have 6 or 7 championships and the fanbase would be around 50/50 on whose the NBA GOAT. Right now, it feels like 80/20 in favor of MJ as the GOAT.
@jklb7777
@jklb7777 Год назад
It makes perfect sense because of what exactly? Bet ur girlfriend don’t d-ride as hard as dray does bron😂
@raymondbrown4972
@raymondbrown4972 Год назад
The warriors was dealing with injuries plus lefraud james had help from refs & the NBA plus 👑 Stephen curry 👑 was injured😂😂😂
@Vnx013
@Vnx013 Год назад
feels bad for Kyrie tho LeBron get all the credit when they comeback 3-1. Kyrie hit the clutch shot. avg 27 ppg while guarding the best player on the opposing team.
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
I have Lebron as 2nd all time, and it's crazy how his fanbase will be quick to call you a hater for giving him his flowers but not calling him the goat. Most people across all age demographics have MJ as the goat. I'll be honest, if Lebron had more rings, or even a three-peat, I'd probably be changing where I place them.
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
@@Vnx013 100% Kyrie was going CRAZY that Finals and he gets little to no recognition for it
@malcolmclanton6216
@malcolmclanton6216 Год назад
To play form October to mid June 9 seasons in a row (when regular season ends in April, so other players get more rest) is extremely difficult.
@coolrig
@coolrig Год назад
i dint understand why people keep saying lebron did more with less talent. his first two rings was with Wade, Bosh, and Ray Allen. Third ring was with Kyrie. Fourth ring was with Anthony Davis in a covid bubble.
@Shaun-h1r
@Shaun-h1r 6 месяцев назад
Wades knees was gone Bosch had heart problems was carried by PIPPEN RODMAN KERR KUKOC GRANT HARPER LONGLY PAXSON BILL CARTWRIGHT BJ ARMSTRONG WILL PERDUE Charles Oakley AND Others. Mj never faced a team in the finals in their prime or more than one all star. Never faced a team the caliber of SPURS IN PRIME. BIG 4 Celtics. GSW WITH AND WITHOUT KD.
@terrelltyler4308
@terrelltyler4308 Год назад
Definitely agree with Draymond 👌🏾💪🏾💯💯
@bainer3052
@bainer3052 Год назад
Jason Terry and JJ Barea have receipts on LeBronze in the NBA Finals 🤣😂🤣
@babygroot8023
@babygroot8023 Год назад
@@bainer3052 so you’re basically saying they’re incompetent players yet the team they assembled bounced every other team in their conference and made it to the finals for a reason… just say you don’t know basketball bro the mavs weren’t pushovers.
@christianlloydamar8958
@christianlloydamar8958 Год назад
Lebron 1-2 against duncan Lebron 1-3 Curry so sad hahahaha
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@allendelgado9675
@allendelgado9675 Год назад
You can't mention Jordan without Scottie and Phil!
@nine3seven
@nine3seven Год назад
you can’t mention LeBron without DWade (top 3 SG ever) Kyrie (most skilled ever) Ray Allen (greatest shooter ever b4 Steph) i could keep going but this should do
@knathanknathan
@knathanknathan Год назад
@@nine3seven bosh
@knathanknathan
@knathanknathan Год назад
@@nine3seven but today’s society wants everything now. That’s why it’s okay to chase after something without putting time in and work with what you got. Jordan and Kobe stuck with their team through think and thin.
@Los150
@Los150 Год назад
@@nine3sevenD Wade’s knees were shot most of that Miami run. That wasn’t ‘06 DWade he was playing with. And Scottie is probably the greatest wing defender ever. Phil the greatest coach ever. These are silly comparisons lol
@impacc4182
@impacc4182 Год назад
@@nine3sevenwow lebron has teammates what a shocker lol unlike Jordan LeBron was the driving force unlike mj who got carried by the greatest coach for all time
@kellyaustin7487
@kellyaustin7487 Год назад
The best basketball player came straight out of highschool and impacted the game immediately as a kid. Where was MJ in highschool? 🤯
@obiwontrice
@obiwontrice Год назад
Please not the Kobe argument. Sorry he was an incredible talent but him being Shaq’s sidekick disqualifies him.
@JmedleyMusik
@JmedleyMusik Год назад
MJ could have came out of HS too but the mindset of an athlete was different back then. Keep that in mind
@nikclaus2372
@nikclaus2372 Год назад
@@JmedleyMusik yeah he could but he didn’t
@darienholmes8671
@darienholmes8671 Год назад
@@JmedleyMusik 😂😂😂😂MJ didn’t make his HS team let alone could he come out in HS 😂😂😂😂😂
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@VLeaders
@VLeaders Год назад
Lebron is the greatest! I've lived in the height of both. But Lebron is just different. Just Amazing
@jerrysmith8899
@jerrysmith8899 Год назад
When you look at his body of work when he came into the league at age 18. Draymond Green I agree he is the GOAT
@Grandmaster_Vic
@Grandmaster_Vic Год назад
This reminds me of this clip of Andre Igoudala start twirling his hands when he was looking at Draymond and Lebron giving each other a hug
@PerryUnlikely
@PerryUnlikely Год назад
So glad to see someone use their brain to rationalize this debate. The crowd that penalizes him for making the finals and losing lacks critical thinking. Great points
@jordanlewis1851
@jordanlewis1851 Год назад
Yea I respect the ones who don’t just Bring up a finals record because at the end of the day, winning a championship is a team effort not one person
@NegronAngel2828
@NegronAngel2828 Год назад
Mj better
@PerryUnlikely
@PerryUnlikely Год назад
@@NegronAngel2828 No issue with that
@GhostbustersPhone8489
@GhostbustersPhone8489 Год назад
MJ's & LeBron's Awards, Accolades, Accomplishments, Trophies: 1984 NCAA Player of the Year LeBron came out of High School 1984, 1992 Gold Medal LeBron 2008, 2012 1984/85 Rookie of the Year LeBron 2003/04 Rookie of the Year 1990 Most Points (Regular Season - 69) LeBron 2014 Most Points (Regular Season - 61) 1985/86 Most Points (Playoffs - 63) LeBron 2018 Most Points (Playoffs - 51) 1987 & 1988 Slam Dunk Champion (twice) LeBron (Nothing to Register) 1987/88 Defensive Player of the Year LeBron (Nothing to Register) Regular Season MVPs - 5 LeBron - 4 Finals MVPs - 6 LeBron - 4 Points Per Game - 30.1 LeBron - 27.1 Playoffs Points Per Game - 33.4 LeBron - 28.7 All Defensive Team - 9 times LeBron - 5 times Most Championships - 6 LeBron - 4 Seasons - 15 LeBron - 20
@joncsoriano5163
@joncsoriano5163 Год назад
wasnt expecting that from Dray.. i guess he pretty smart after all
@MrLuismusik
@MrLuismusik Год назад
Idk but what lebron is doing is incredible 👏👏👏 breaking records!!!
@brutals4964
@brutals4964 Год назад
Yea in like the most easiest league ever 😂 come on bro lol everyone always forgets about Kobe lol
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@MrLuismusik
@MrLuismusik Год назад
@Brutals I'll never forget about kobe bro...he was my guy growing up so when he passed away it hurt!!
@MrLuismusik
@MrLuismusik Год назад
@@kingtrawal 🤣🤣
@SenpaiJoyBoy
@SenpaiJoyBoy Год назад
Wow lebron is the all time scorer in NBA, how many scoring titles does he have?
@theunknown7441
@theunknown7441 Год назад
The most weakest title ever since AI wont it with below league average shooting
@bobbyd1632
@bobbyd1632 Год назад
in fairness Bron is a good scorer, arguably top 10 all time as a scorer. But the gap between MJ as a scorer and Bron, is much larger than the gap between them as passers
@SenpaiJoyBoy
@SenpaiJoyBoy Год назад
@@bobbyd1632 gap between them as scoring title holders is very large. Efficiency over longevity
@bobbyd1632
@bobbyd1632 Год назад
@@SenpaiJoyBoy yep, like I said the gap between them as scorers is decent (best ever compared to maybe top 10), the gap between them as passers is actually quite close
@federalfreemoneylackofrese9937
Lebron has a higher fg and 3 pnt %. Nothing to do with longevity. Mathematically, he scored more with the same attempt. Jordan just took more attempts
@ScottRachelson777
@ScottRachelson777 Год назад
I think the point DG is making is that LeBron did what he did with less talent on his team and played better opponents in the Finals. Jordan's path to the Finals was more difficult, but once he got to the Finals, his opponents were not as good as the ones LeBron faced. Also, it's easier to win in a league where the talent level on average is less than the talent level during the era in which LeBron played: Players are bigger, faster, and stronger than they were during Jordan's generation.
@montanamountainman
@montanamountainman Год назад
You got that ass backwards bud. The league is full of soft young players afraid to trade elbows. There's no way you were born before 1990
@knathanknathan
@knathanknathan Год назад
Lakers? Trail Blazers? Sonics? Suns? Jazz? They weren’t good? These teams were stacked goof ball
@ScottRachelson777
@ScottRachelson777 Год назад
@@knathanknathan They were past their primes when Jordan beat them. It's a fact that players are faster and stronger on average. The keyword is "average", meaning across the league. If you want to dispute this point, prove your case with data and science! I challenge you. Goofball!
@pmontyjaaaymes488
@pmontyjaaaymes488 Год назад
@@ScottRachelson777 Yes and ppl say Lebron era was soft. But it wasnt soft for Lebron the way players were able to just grab on him bc he was so big. Not to mention i feel like this Era is bc of the Jordan rules anyways.
@ScottRachelson777
@ScottRachelson777 Год назад
@@pmontyjaaaymes488 I find it hard to believe that if players were allowed to get away with haymakers the way they were in Jordan's day, and LeBon was playing then, he wouldn't have given them a few hay rides down a starry lane that would change the course of their careers.
@michaelfultonjr4396
@michaelfultonjr4396 Год назад
It’s crazy cuz Bron could literally be MVP every season. And it be legit
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@TJPhillips23
@TJPhillips23 Год назад
@@kingtrawal my bad big dawg your profile picture invalidates your opinion 😭 L troll
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
@@TJPhillips23 just like how LeCHOKEs resume invalidates his goat argument? 4 out of 10 for 40%. Dude loses nonstop.
@HFGnash
@HFGnash Год назад
Exactly he took a break and still ended up dominating ! Enough said lol
@jaybrick8973
@jaybrick8973 Месяц назад
After getting another hofer in rodman why does mj need so much help lol
@dexterlim8426
@dexterlim8426 Год назад
It's Michael Jordan? Nope it's Lebron
@mellissajanevicente1643
@mellissajanevicente1643 Год назад
Everybody has a point with this conversation but since your talking about the what if of MJ, What if LBJ was drafted by a Great franchise he would have probably have more rings than MJ, the problem with LBJ career is that Cleaveland management sucks and cannot sorround LBJ with a good player that could help his load, maybe if cleaveland have done this he would have not leave cleaveland and stay there for his whole career
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
MJ wasn't drafted by a great franchise either though. They were literally one of the last place teams in the league when he joined and most his teammates were drug addicts who partied more than they practiced
@mode2079
@mode2079 Год назад
The Cavs was favorite to beat the Mavs and LeBron melted. Jordan never melted in the biggest games, because he was the most ferocious competitor ever . Remember the Bulls weren't nothing before Jordan got there.
@jonaalstern3899
@jonaalstern3899 Год назад
@@gabrieleaster yea but he had the front office willing to make Change and help where was that for bron ?
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
Didn’t cavs win 60+ plus games in 09 and 2010. With lebron back to back league MVP and COTY
@jonaalstern3899
@jonaalstern3899 Год назад
@@judahmourneth3211 how u think they got 60 wins buddy ? 😂
@adriankimble8422
@adriankimble8422 Год назад
Mj won defensive player of the year while not having to guard guards who impacted scoring as scoring threats at his position in the era he played in (Big Man Era). There were good scorers at those positions but they were not focal points of any offense.
@KingsdaleNorth
@KingsdaleNorth Год назад
See there. You are way to smart to be up in these comments hittin' bullseye's.
@impacc4182
@impacc4182 Год назад
What does that have to do with anything? In 2013 bron was defensive player of the year candidate and was guarding positions 1-5
@KingsdaleNorth
@KingsdaleNorth Год назад
@@impacc4182 no won is talking about 'anything'. Ask a proper question. What does that have to do with...
@impacc4182
@impacc4182 Год назад
@@KingsdaleNorth what’re you babbling about
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@andygold3699
@andygold3699 Год назад
Jordan is the standard! 🐐
@dwightturner2642
@dwightturner2642 Год назад
Damn Kobe didn’t play in 2005
@jarviswilliams4374
@jarviswilliams4374 Год назад
Exactly because that 2009 Kobe season was so underrated, Kobe wasn’t going to be denied in 09 he was actually waiting on LeBron
@stephanelobemouelle5211
@stephanelobemouelle5211 Год назад
You know guys! Scotty has said it already James is infront according to one thing : the supporting cast around the player.
@ronaldoguedes68
@ronaldoguedes68 Год назад
I’m not sure MJ would survive this era. Dealing with That GSW. It’s insane
@therealjayz8036
@therealjayz8036 Год назад
It ain’t even about GSW. Jordan wouldn’t survive social media
@dawjy9413
@dawjy9413 Год назад
@@therealjayz8036 MJ has the most media coverage on him...he'll survive it pretty well...man was a true professional unlike Lebum and these clowns today. Look at Steph he doing well.
@illiturit1151
@illiturit1151 Год назад
MJ would mind-fuck Curry into sub-par 20-point performances while averaging 35, Pippen would easily hold his own against Thompson in every aspect of the game, Rodman would out-Draymond Draymond Green and Kerr learned to coach by being coached by Phil Jackson. MJ vs Lebron is a good argument, MJ's championship Bulls teams vs GSW, meh...not so much.
@jeffedwards250
@jeffedwards250 Год назад
@@illiturit1151 cap who guarding Durant you forgot they had him too idiot jordan can’t guard Durant and Pippen and Rodman good luck Steph and Klay gone get 30 especially in they prime fool
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@tayluc777
@tayluc777 Год назад
Juan wasn’t feeling that 😂
@InbredSpanishKing
@InbredSpanishKing Год назад
Mike guarded little men and lebron guarded every position
@kolelegge7860
@kolelegge7860 Год назад
People tend to forget that. On top of that I believe MJ switched to the point guards a lot which helped a lot for him winning all those defensive accolades.
@InbredSpanishKing
@InbredSpanishKing Год назад
@@kolelegge7860 exactly. He didn’t guard the best 3,4, or 5 positions
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@InbredSpanishKing
@InbredSpanishKing Год назад
@@kingtrawal MJ was getting bounced in the first round and getting swept until Scottie and Phil Jackson came along 😂😂
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
@@InbredSpanishKing Phil Jackson with MJ: 6 rings no losses, Phil without MJ… 4 finals losses. Grow a brain, Bronsexual 🤡
@sh43n
@sh43n Год назад
I like seeing more more people that actually played in the NBA give out their opinions
@tcmb3434
@tcmb3434 Год назад
Draymond makes no sense when he says the players of today are way better than the players back in the day. So how do you consider Jordan the 2nd best player all time, if he’s a player from back in the day? If guys are way better now, then the best players of today should be way better than the best players back in the day right? There should be a bunch of players that we consider better than Jordan and we all know that ain’t true 😂
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 Год назад
That's the problem whenever I hear people make the argument for LeBron. Their argument is inconsistent. OK so LeBron is better because he beat the greatest team ever assembled which was the warriors right? Then why is Jordan ahead of Curry in his rankings? Why isn't Durant higher because Durant almost beat those same warriors that same year. James Harden needs to be top 10 because again James Harden nearly beat the Durant Warriors while LeBron's cavs got swept. Miami with three all stars losing to a team with one all star that's not in anyone's top ten list just didn't happen I guess
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
I don't get that either. Players today are supposedly better but all the all time stats are dominated by 80s and 90s players. It's a league where small guards can dominate, if that tells you anything about the defense of today's league.
@youtubewatcher4955
@youtubewatcher4955 Год назад
He’s talking about the general pool of players. Take away Jordan and the superstars of the 90’s as well as the one’s from today the bench of today or the mid level players would be better than the bench or mid-levels players of back then. Which makes sense considering basketball was a hobby to those back than and now dudes are groomed in HS to be elite.
@tcmb3434
@tcmb3434 Год назад
@@youtubewatcher4955 I find that hard to believe when I seen the 2013 Miami Heat play a 38-44 Milwaukee Bucks team in the first round of the playoffs. The players and teams of today are pampered, get to miss games to rest, and can make the playoffs when their mathematically out of it. Idk how much better the players of today would be if the league wasn’t candy coated.
@MindfulAttraction2.0
@MindfulAttraction2.0 Год назад
Jordan accomplished more in a compressed amount of time. That's way more impressive
@mobetta2092
@mobetta2092 Год назад
With better coaching and more skilled teammates.
@at2130
@at2130 Год назад
@@mobetta2092 Bron never wanted to be coached and he had spoelstra and pat Riley and chose to leave. Jordan played with 1 other all-star in pippin. Bron literally created super teams with 3 All-stars and still losses.
@mobetta2092
@mobetta2092 Год назад
@@at2130 LeBron left to deliver on a championship promise he made to Cleveland. Jordan’s GM created superteams including signing Dennis Rodman after realizing the Bulls had no chances against the dominant bigs of the 90s like Shaq, Olajuwon, and Malone. Bron never had a teammate who could do what he couldn’t. LeBron led in nearly every statistical category on his championship teams. Bulls would’ve never won a single chip if they required that outta Jordan.
@dreadheadj5558
@dreadheadj5558 Год назад
True, but in a less talented league.
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
@@mobetta2092 what happened to winning "8" rings in Miami tho?
@HF19859
@HF19859 Год назад
Makes total sense. Never seen MJ carry a team by himself to the finals without having a sidekick.
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@kevtaylor9958
@kevtaylor9958 Год назад
And Lebron has? 😂😂😂 he had more HOF than mj ever had I don’t get it
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
In 1998, Pippen was usless and injured. MJ won that ring all by himself. Grow a Brain. LeChoke is a loser. Losers can't be goat. looks bad for the sport.
@justaguy7953
@justaguy7953 Год назад
​@@kevtaylor99582018 Cavaliers🤷‍♂️
@tyronenorth6644
@tyronenorth6644 Год назад
His point wasn't Jordans accolades him simply said lebron through extreme adversity stated on top and carried teams that weren't built around him
@roadrunner6103
@roadrunner6103 Год назад
Never forget that lebron did that and manage to be one of the best roll model for society.
@albertol9654
@albertol9654 6 месяцев назад
Bro said Lebron 😂.. He loves hugging his 🥜
@haekalalwi4038
@haekalalwi4038 Год назад
Way longer minutes on his knee, nobody could ever play as long as lbj and be as great as him.
@georgeclooney6071
@georgeclooney6071 Год назад
Impact matters in any GOAT conversation whether sports or music, Lebron hasn’t had the same or more impact that MJ.
@MR.__G
@MR.__G Год назад
“By 2005 bron was the best player in the nba” Can a bron stan explain to me how he was the best player in 05 & missed the playoffs ?? Can you also explain to me how the best player finishes bronze in team USA 06 ??
@DapperChe
@DapperChe Год назад
He made some valid points i can’t lie HOWEVER…… Michael Jordan crushed his rivals en route to championships, he never had to team up with them. I commented this on another videos but it’s true…. Jordan came in the league with John Stockton, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley. Lebrons rookies class was him, Carmelo Anthony, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh. Lebrun literally played on the same team with everyone from his rookie class, Jordan on the other hand crushed his rookie class. That’s one of the few reasons i could never say Lebrun is the goat.
@taishogunsum960
@taishogunsum960 Год назад
please you need to copy and paste this ppl keep forgetting lebron jumping ship as soon as the shit hits the fan
@Twotimes510
@Twotimes510 Год назад
Let’s end this right here . When mj left for that year the bulls still made the conference finals without him . Showing his team was already that good without him . Lebron teams didn’t go to playoff for at least 3 before he came and none made it back to the playoffs when he left . He didn’t just take these 3 teams to the playoffs but finals with a different group
@alhajiibrahimbarrie9934
@alhajiibrahimbarrie9934 8 месяцев назад
Let's put it this way, the Bulls never went to the NBA finals before MJ, They won 6 with MJ, and never went to the finals after he left.
@curtis0074
@curtis0074 4 месяца назад
Check your history. You made an error. They didn't make the conference finals....I watched the game live, it was semifinals.
@Vnx013
@Vnx013 Год назад
Greatest team assembled? they almost lost to Houston with Cp3 and Harden. If Cp3 didn't get hurt Houston would won the series. Also people forget that all the jaggernaut teams who dominated the game are old and retired. If were talking Greatest team that would be the MJ Bulls they 3 peat twice. Warriors didn't. He even put steph at #4 😂
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
KD warriors couldn't even threepeat once and he wants to call them the greatest team ever. Wild
@impacc4182
@impacc4182 Год назад
@@gabrieleaster73-9 and the bulls are overrated they had the goat of all time
@Will-ib7ok
@Will-ib7ok Год назад
Warriors would have a 4 peat if it they didn't have to face Lebron
@Vnx013
@Vnx013 Год назад
@@impacc4182 overrated? bulls? 😂 do you even know what overrated means? they won 3 peat twice. Have a 72-10 record with CHIP. Bulls are the best team back then both offensive and defensively.
@Vnx013
@Vnx013 Год назад
@@Will-ib7ok you mean LeBron with Kyrie and Love. and what? 4 peat 🤣? really? 2015 finals without kyrie and Love? 2017 wcf Injured Kawhi? 2018 wcf CP3 hamstring injury? Warriors is not the greatest team. more like the luckiest team ever 😂
@malsawmtluanga8249
@malsawmtluanga8249 Год назад
Dominant wise - LBJ Championship wise - MJ
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@malsawmtluanga8249
@malsawmtluanga8249 Год назад
@@kingtrawal brahh look at the all time leading scorer list lebron about to past even the great Kareem
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
@@malsawmtluanga8249 being the career leading scorer, doesn’t make you the goat… Just ask Kareem. Losers can’t be goat… looks bad for the sport
@malsawmtluanga8249
@malsawmtluanga8249 Год назад
@@kingtrawal oh yeah compare MJ's teammate with lebron. Just so you know Lebron is in 10 on every leading scorer, assist, 3 pointers made, steal and so on
@aygagi
@aygagi Год назад
Draymond was right
@serjack26
@serjack26 Год назад
TOP GOAT NBA: 1- LEBRON, 2- JORDAN, 3- MAGIC, 4- JABAR, 5- KOBE.
@albertol9654
@albertol9654 6 месяцев назад
He said in 2005 Bron was the best player 😂.. Tim Duncan was and after that Kobe was. I dont know what juice Bron gave him, but he's obsessed with him now. Plus MJ went 6 tor 6, and could of won more but he was bored and went to go play Baseball to honor his father. Donkey Draymond sounds so goofy.
@2playschemeo.p.croutes724
@2playschemeo.p.croutes724 6 месяцев назад
LBJ supporter never speak facts. They just make BS claims. Like this one 😂
@kennysmith1336
@kennysmith1336 Год назад
Always pick Kobe over LeBron always say Kobe was the next Michael Jordan but you cannot really compare those three Michael Jordan went to college before he was in the NBA Kobe and LeBron came straight out of high school
@knathanknathan
@knathanknathan Год назад
If LeBron had gone to college the career scoring wouldn’t be that high.
@Bungycb
@Bungycb Год назад
Thank you for showing everyone you don’t know anything about basketball
@YaboyReilly
@YaboyReilly Год назад
But who’s the most clutch player of all time? Lebron has the most clutch points at over 2600 points. Mj was playing against a bunch of drunks and ppl doing coke. The athletes now a days train every day and spend so much money on their body’s. It’s insulting to say the league isn’t better now
@VelhaGuardaTricolor
@VelhaGuardaTricolor Год назад
Anyone who says Jordan is using his heart. Lebron is considerably better than MJ. He is not half as loved, nor half as idolized, but this ain't no popularity contest.
@rationallearner
@rationallearner Год назад
Can't agree more. Right when lbj had played 11-12 years league became 3 pointer league when steph hit his prime. League kept on changing but lbj for sure was the best player up until 2020.
@MyronZhao
@MyronZhao Год назад
Kobe was the best player until 2011. 2019 Kawhi was better than Lebron. Dwade was better than Lebron for a couple seasons. Giannis was back to back MVP 2018-2019.
@MyronZhao
@MyronZhao Год назад
@Topjunkie yeah I agree with that but Lebron is definitely not above MJ or Kobe haha
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than Lebron at offense, and MJ better than Lebron at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@mobetta2092
@mobetta2092 Год назад
@@MyronZhaoKobe was more respected because he was an elder statesman. Everyone knew Kobe was all about himself and was incapable of making his teammates better.
@mobetta2092
@mobetta2092 Год назад
@@kingtrawalJordan relied so heavily on Pippen and Phil (Rodman too) that he vowed to quit if they didn’t return. LeBron never had a teammate that could do what he was incapable of…Jordan needed Rodman because he was too small and short to do anything with Shaq, Mourning, and Malone. Heck, even Pippen was needed against a bigger and stronger Magic in 1991 finals.
@Trenton_Amani
@Trenton_Amani Год назад
What Dreymond ( I thought made obvious ) is that essentially yeah Jordan stays will look better and he will have more accolades but these days the players are more athletic and the game has evolved many of times but yet LeBron has remained the best player through it all and even though he didn’t win them all he went to the Finals for like a decade straight …
@TherefslovesMichaelJordan
@TherefslovesMichaelJordan Год назад
@Topjunkie the league was soft back then
@NevaSellmySoul
@NevaSellmySoul Год назад
@@TherefslovesMichaelJordan nah
@TherefslovesMichaelJordan
@TherefslovesMichaelJordan Год назад
@@NevaSellmySoul I remember that series against the New York Knicks MJ was getting all types of foul calls to help his team
@thediseaseisthecure
@thediseaseisthecure Год назад
And the Buffalo Bills went to the Super Bowl four years in a row but nobody cares about coming in second place 🤡
@montanamountainman
@montanamountainman Год назад
Put lebron in his prime against the 1988 pistons. The league is soft and young. Not nearly as competitive or athletic Anyone who says otherwise was born after 1990. Facts.
@kifleyesusgaim3529
@kifleyesusgaim3529 Год назад
Michael Jordan averaged 30.1pts 6.2rebs 5.3ast and Lebron averaged 27.1pts 7.5rebs 7.3ast. 2 more assist is not that big of a deal. Jordan averaged more steals and was a better defender. Jordan has more rings and he left the game to play baseball in his prime.
@magicien233
@magicien233 Год назад
2 assists is min 4 points
@dreadheadj5558
@dreadheadj5558 Год назад
N Michael Jordan played against high school teachers and grass cuters
@curazao1507
@curazao1507 Год назад
He has more rings but made it to the finals less, and sure he averaged 3 less points than Jordan but you have to look at the longevity. You rather 30$ a day for 15 years or 27$ for over 20 years?
@Big_3000
@Big_3000 Год назад
@@dreadheadj5558 dumb ass argument
@kylaberichardson7971
@kylaberichardson7971 Год назад
Lbj is clearly the best
@judahmourneth3211
@judahmourneth3211 Год назад
Everybody’s keeps crying about talent. Lebron’s has played with enough talent on his teams to compete. He just didn’t get the job done.
@derrickbevill8549
@derrickbevill8549 Год назад
This argument is crazy but when you good you tell everyone but when you great everyone tells you..Jordan never said he was the goat..smh
@UncutGamingClips
@UncutGamingClips Год назад
Definitely the greatest basketball player. Not quite the greatest winner though.
@blacktopbuckets
@blacktopbuckets Год назад
Can't go wrong with either
@UncutGamingClips
@UncutGamingClips Год назад
@@blacktopbuckets he's definitely up there though.
@EmojiMan927
@EmojiMan927 Год назад
It’s MJ
@hairjordan2620
@hairjordan2620 Год назад
Watch "Jordan's historic Bulls mixtape" and "rare voyager", he's just different bruh, you might just change your mind lol
@burgerveli1676
@burgerveli1676 Год назад
That's it right there
@justified9537
@justified9537 Год назад
Naw MJ, did not face the same amount talent Lebron has, there’s no way MJ in his prime would be dpoy in today’s league. Bringing up those achievements but disregarding the ease at which he was able to get them is disingenuous. MJ was good in era of NBA average LB is great in a much higher level era of the game.
@sideshowbobsaget8876
@sideshowbobsaget8876 Год назад
Marcus smart and Gobert have won DPOY what are you talking about
@sideshowbobsaget8876
@sideshowbobsaget8876 Год назад
LMAO Bird, Magic, KAJ, Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Drexler, Payton, Miller, Ewing, Zeke etc. DPOY in the 90s Mutumbo, Rodman, Hakeem, Robinson, Alonzo. LeBron lost DPOY to M.Gasol LMAO
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 exactly. If all the players of this era are so good, how come all the records still standing are by players from MJ's era?
@atulkar3794
@atulkar3794 Год назад
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 he shouldve won that he got robbed not lost casual
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 Год назад
Jordan played in an Era with Rodman, Ewing, Hakeem and you say he wouldn't have won a defensive MVP??? Lmfao!!!! Those are some of the greatest nba defenders of all time. LeBron losses defensive player the year awards to ummmm jokeem noah and Mark Gasol. Yall new nba fans are hilarious
@XxL4venderxX
@XxL4venderxX Год назад
What about defense??? Its a two way sport, no player has ever scored 30 points AND had dpoy in 1 season except jordan not to mention the mvps and the finals record.
@geekhan559
@geekhan559 Год назад
Lebron is hands down the greatest player in this era, you can't call him the greatest of all time. come on, Draymond, you would lose to the Bulls of 96 your coach would be playing against you your talking about a player who assembled his teams and shoots over 33% of the teams shot
@Vnx013
@Vnx013 Год назад
The only way to describe LeBron with the GOAT term. When it stands for G-oing O-n A-nother T-eam.
@thsu8
@thsu8 Год назад
Yup
@mybestnugget7514
@mybestnugget7514 Год назад
And I could say LeBron’s midrange, shooting, post up game, handle, and free throw shooting is all about league average🤷🏾‍♂️ all you can argue is MJ isn’t quite the passer Bron is
@doylefrye1547
@doylefrye1547 Год назад
Boy you slow...How can he be average at all those things but be one of the most efficient in the history of the game lol.His size strength and speed was an advantage just like MJ in the 90s.Look at how he get to the rack and creates balance in his scoring.MJ did the same thing and added a post game later in his career.So did Bron.And Jordan never won anything without Pippen.Point blank period.
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
MJ wasn't surrounded by great shooters his entire career either. Lebron's been playing with current top 5, top 10 players his entire career since joining the Heat
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
@@doylefrye1547 Bron never won anything without another superstar either so what's your point?
@doylefrye1547
@doylefrye1547 Год назад
@gabrieleaster Steve kerr,John paxon,bj Armstrong,Craig hodges,jud Buchler.All great 3 point shooters.Tex winters triangle offense was built to put shooters in the corners so the stars could have more room to iso and make easy reads.Phil Jackson knew exactly how to maximize mj and Scotties abilities.Look at the lakers.Fisher,Horry and Odom.Odom was nearly identical to kuckok.The other guys were sharp shooters.And you evidently must not remember how good Dennis and harper were.Great defensively.Longley was no scrub.Jordans teams were loaded
@doylefrye1547
@doylefrye1547 Год назад
@gabrieleaster none of those guys lebron played with were great two way players (except for AD)Jordan never got out the east without Scottie.Bron made it out with scrubs before he was 22.Stop it!!
@georgeclooney6071
@georgeclooney6071 Год назад
MJ averaged 6 assists in the finals but his haters act like he averaged 2.
@jerico6731
@jerico6731 Год назад
We dont care about mj's assist. Mj doesnt involve his teammates unlike lebron. Basketball is a teamsports.
@DeauxTheGreat1990
@DeauxTheGreat1990 Год назад
Lebron averages like 11 assists in finals appearances
@georgeclooney6071
@georgeclooney6071 Год назад
@@DeauxTheGreat1990 “Like 11” tells me you don’t know you’re just guessing, you’re way off btw lol.
@georgeclooney6071
@georgeclooney6071 Год назад
@@jerico6731 Depends on the teammates, but if you don’t care about assists then it doesn’t matter lol.
@jerico6731
@jerico6731 Год назад
@@georgeclooney6071yeah boobie gibson and cedi osman being the 2nd best player still reaching the finals
@kirkiskhoas6029
@kirkiskhoas6029 Год назад
Lebron James is : LeCoach ,LeGeneral manger, LeAll5position player etc...and also the greatest athlete of all time
@1977Kingsolomon
@1977Kingsolomon Год назад
Well presented and thoughtful video. No slander towards either player. ❤ 🏀
@ashleycimaglio7461
@ashleycimaglio7461 Год назад
Keeping it real 🥰🏀
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien Год назад
Yeah. Real dumb!!
@misane2212
@misane2212 Год назад
LeBron hit superteams and he still didn’t get a six and o record in the finals
@khoado123
@khoado123 Год назад
need superteams to beat superteams. Common sense ain't that hard kid
@domudeh3691
@domudeh3691 Год назад
@@khoado123 he ain’t idiot don’t mind him
@nikosvault
@nikosvault Год назад
@@khoado123 Dirk would disagree.
@khoado123
@khoado123 Год назад
@@nikosvault while Dirk didnt have a superteam, dont act like he had bums around him
@nikosvault
@nikosvault Год назад
@@khoado123 There was one bum around him during the NBA finals.
@dpistons149
@dpistons149 Год назад
MJ peak was higher 32-8-8, 2.9 steals 53% shooting. None of Lebrons season have been Better than that.
@SummerAwe99
@SummerAwe99 Год назад
lol in 1989 the pace was insanely high, and he led the league in usage% that season. Thats not even MJ's peak...
@jalenkyle93
@jalenkyle93 Год назад
2013 bron is arguably the best players ever. FMVP, mvp, 1 vote away from DPOY and beat the spurs dynasty
@theunknown7441
@theunknown7441 Год назад
@@jalenkyle93 2018 was the complete player
@fredooogoated8335
@fredooogoated8335 Год назад
It’s crazy cause when us bron fans bring up stats like all time points rebounds and assists y’all get mad and say we only use stats but you’re using a stat😂😂😂 bron the greatest that’s why you here trying to use that weak ass debate
@NevaSellmySoul
@NevaSellmySoul Год назад
@@jalenkyle93 thanks to Ray Allen
@tayrooster5302
@tayrooster5302 Год назад
You completely left out the fact that Draymond said Lebron competition level is higher!!! That’s the main factor.
@2playschemeo.p.croutes724
@2playschemeo.p.croutes724 6 месяцев назад
Bron supporters have no facts to prove he is Goat. Only excuses. And made up statements. Green literally said “the talent at Apple is better than it was in 91” 😂 so that is why LJ is goat.
@SA-zl1ll
@SA-zl1ll Год назад
Call it crazy but I actually agree with his list
@DLabri3
@DLabri3 Год назад
nah
@blacktopbuckets
@blacktopbuckets Год назад
to me or Draymond? Respect your opinion either way
@jessiehernandez6148
@jessiehernandez6148 Год назад
I'm not a fan of Green, but he almost got tears coming out my eyes dam on what he said!
@Rob93WLR
@Rob93WLR Год назад
Cap
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@Rob93WLR
@Rob93WLR Год назад
@@kingtrawal YES IN YOUR DREAM SON
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
@@Rob93WLR MJ with 10 straights scoring titles and 9 straight FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSE. LeChoke with Zero and Zero. MJ also 6 rings and. 6 FMVP. Drop your tears here 👇
@Rob93WLR
@Rob93WLR Год назад
@@kingtrawal I can't talk with peoples like you Lebron will prove again in a few matches that he has overtaken MJ a long time ago now, you can hate Lebron but you can't lying the whole world know the truth trust me.
@BernardMoon
@BernardMoon 6 месяцев назад
Draymond is smoking.... From 2005 on? Kobe Bryant?? Even Lebron said during the 2008 Olympics that Kobe was the BEST PLAYER IN THE NBA. Even the coaches and other Redeem Team members acknowledged this. Draymond is just a Klutch Sports Kiss--- sorry, client. And on ASSISTS? MJ averaged 11.4 assists during the 1991 NBA FINALS... more than Lebron ever has and the 3rd highest EVER IN NBA HISTORY. MJ JUST did whatever to get it done... average 40 pts per game for a NBA FINALS? DONE. Could Lebron? NO.
@112coachatc
@112coachatc 8 месяцев назад
Can you say Kobe and Guannis. Draymond you capping. Lebron can’t even do a 1-2 pull up jumper, he does a 1-2-3-4 pull up jumper. We can take at least 10,000 points from him for uncalled travels and offensive fouls. He does not play defense . All-around statement is a joke as he dominates the ball. That is also a curse for him. All-time leader in points, 2nd or 3rd in assist, but the flip aside is he has more turnovers than anyone in runaway margin and will pass Kobe for most missed shots all time this year. And if history tells you anything. Drafting Lebron over Jordan is a horrible mistake as Lebron played 11 healthy seasons in Cleveland and brought them 1 ship and spent the rest chasing super teams. Jordan in 11 healthy seasons gave Chicago 6 ships and battled through the hard times and not attempt to take over the organization.
@raymondbrown4972
@raymondbrown4972 Год назад
Draymond green lefraud james is my agent & he's paying me so I'm gonna say he's the goat😂😂😂
@jjoe7078
@jjoe7078 Год назад
except hes not. yall make up so much shit to hate its kinda hilarious. MJ my goat, but this debate is so fucking toxic for no reason.
@raymondbrown4972
@raymondbrown4972 Год назад
@@jjoe7078 Lefraud top 200 player!!
@jjoe7078
@jjoe7078 Год назад
@@raymondbrown4972 i hate when i fall for bait. smh.
@raymondbrown4972
@raymondbrown4972 Год назад
@@jjoe7078 me too bro😂
@raymondbrown4972
@raymondbrown4972 Год назад
@@jjoe7078 are you a LeBron fan
@terrencealexander6811
@terrencealexander6811 Год назад
Damn draymond spit nothing but pure facts! With No emotions or opinions. Great points about Lbj’s dominance through different era, and the evolution of the game. Lbj the GOAT
@SilentMovements305
@SilentMovements305 Год назад
Frm 04 to 11 Kobe was the best player. Lebron quit on team cuz he couldn't make it pass the Celtics shot he couldn't didn't even beat Orlando Magic wit one superstar and some good rope players. The last Cavs team he had before leaving to Miami were top 5 defensive teams at the time top ³ shooting team at the time. If Giannis got a title wit only good shooter Khris Middleton y lebron couldn't make it happen wit those 2 Cav teams. This man a clown and what iggy did on the bench when lebron and draymond were laughing on the court together is what this man is
@dparks2856
@dparks2856 Год назад
Naw
@gsquadgaming878
@gsquadgaming878 Год назад
Quit? Bro kobe literally lost the Lakers the finals in 04 cause he was being selfish...he broke the offense trying to get finals mvp over shaq
@dparks2856
@dparks2856 Год назад
There was no one close to Middleton and Holliday on that 2010 cavs team lol
@bmon8944
@bmon8944 Год назад
When did kobe faced 4 all stars by himself? Lmao he has pao to run with him, artest and odom and fisher. Bruh, lebron has no one playing against boston. Zbo?! Gibson?! FOH lmao
@roro6064
@roro6064 Год назад
Quit? Cavs couldn’t give a decent supporting cast for like 8 years. Lebron left to better himself and his career. Cavs at the time were ruining him. Only reason why mj stayed on the bulls is cause the bulls gave him the best coach of all time and pippin by his side
@jeramypoyer8631
@jeramypoyer8631 Год назад
You make good points and seem to be less bias than most MJ guys but you didn’t address draymond ms point that is a fact that talent now a days is much better than it was.. Lebron probably should have 8 MVPs and 10 All Defenses.. but because of the abundance of talent they felt like they needed to spread the wealth as time went on..
@TommyDavidVerbal
@TommyDavidVerbal 4 месяца назад
Lebron James management team has paid for Bots in this chat to answer "Bron" Lebron is totally pathetic
@chaserichardson4743
@chaserichardson4743 Год назад
This isn't even a question anymore MJ is n will be the goat for a very very long time
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
Correct. LeChoke ain't even better than Kobe
@ivanfloydsolas1369
@ivanfloydsolas1369 Год назад
Out of all the points Draymond said you didn't comment about the competition lebron and mj faced. I know that you know the opponents faced by lebron is way more difficult than MJ faced in the finals. MJ and the bulls are the favorites to win in all there championships, they never been the underdog in all there finals win.
@syzorst
@syzorst Год назад
What does that tell you? If you're the best player in the league and playing on a team with substantial talent, doesn't that suppose to make you the favorite? That proves MJ met those expectations. What about LeBron? Throughout the 2010s, he was unquestionably the best player in the NBA and played on superteams but he's the underdog? What does that tell you? He underperformed and underachieved.
@at2130
@at2130 Год назад
Jazz and Sonics would have kicked brons ass
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
@@syzorst Lebron was favored to win in 2011 but...
@immanuelcunt7296
@immanuelcunt7296 Год назад
That's a straight lie. Everyone expected Magic, James Worthy, and Vlade to beat Jordan. They were also not the favourites to win in 1998 against the Jazz. People thought the Bulls (oldest team in the league) were too old that time and would lose. They were the favourites the other times. But being an underdog doesn't mean you're the better player. Nor does being the "overdog". Winning means you're better, losing means you aren't. Just because people expect you to lose doesn't mean you are better than if people expect you to win.
@gilbertoros2028
@gilbertoros2028 Год назад
@@syzorst he was schooled by Jason Terry
@ShowtimeMaury
@ShowtimeMaury Год назад
thank u buckets for mentioning that your not like these other people who think 6-0 and no losses ends the discussion to the GOAT debate. thats so fair for the debate
@dnice4145
@dnice4145 Год назад
It does in this instance. MJs bio is flawless both individually, team wise and impact on winning. 6-0 is shorthand for " you can't claim to be than perfection"
@vicdemone3901
@vicdemone3901 Год назад
Team game
@adrianoadriano5104
@adrianoadriano5104 Год назад
Dray si talking about a player in general aspects. Its Lebron who's on the top for me. His influence from his high school games until now has never change.. He's the most powerful in terms of how he carry the league consistently from the beginning of his carreer. And people complaining Lebron have more years than Jordan and they dont know about the point of playing in year 20 still dominating its all about his body and surprisingly he still strong as he was.
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
Kareem made it to the Finals 10 times and he won 6 with 6 FMVPs. End of debate. lol
@mrblackman1992_
@mrblackman1992_ Год назад
They sleep on kareem
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
@@mrblackman1992_ fr tho. He's always been in the conversation and has a strong case too
@Nbajunkie2782
@Nbajunkie2782 Год назад
I'm a MJ guy. Bron cold though
@kharzart5481
@kharzart5481 Год назад
If bron win another chip and surpass kareem. Its over
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
There's a reason why 85% of Earth knows MJ the GOAT by far... MJ better than LeChoke at scoring, and MJ better than LeChoke at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@ct1778
@ct1778 Год назад
Last year Draymond said MJ #1…
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
that's because The Shop is LBJ's show ;)
@montanamountainman
@montanamountainman Год назад
That's because he's trying to be a Laker. Watch they won't extend. He can never be the leader of that team again. Not after curry took poole's side.
@montanamountainman
@montanamountainman Год назад
*a leader*
@impacc4182
@impacc4182 Год назад
@@montanamountainmanalways excuses with you Jordan dik riders anytime they say brons the goat there’s some reasoning behind it
@jamesmurray34
@jamesmurray34 Год назад
I just don't understand the debate anymore 6 years of winning with a break in between compared to 20 years of winning every year mic drop....
@sehoujay
@sehoujay Год назад
Damn how humiliating for Steph Curry
@S-h-i-n-X
@S-h-i-n-X Год назад
The talent in mj era and Lj era is mad different its not even close
@dnice4145
@dnice4145 Год назад
Saying blanket statements like that doesn't make it true.
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
@@dnice4145 but it does speak to the ratio of talent between Jordan and his competitors vs Lebron and his competitors. If you're leagues above your competition, it's easy to say things like this. But if Lebron is wanting to be the goat, then he has to proportionately be that much better than his competition, the way MJ was, but he isn't.
@omarharris4758
@omarharris4758 Год назад
To be the greatest you have to have the greatest career. As great as Lebron James career is it is not greater than Michael Jordans career just fair and simple
@TrenchBaby13
@TrenchBaby13 Год назад
🤣🤣🤣
@feliperosa1358
@feliperosa1358 Год назад
A guy who played for 20 years + and is still regarded as a top play will retire with damn near the top of all stats didnt have a better career then a guy who played 15 years and retired 3 times ans barely is number one at anything 🤣🤣 you hate lebron jus say that its easier
@omarharris4758
@omarharris4758 Год назад
@@feliperosa1358 Jordan most finals mvps, most scoring titles, highest career ppg both playoffs & regular season. Highest career PER highest career box plus minus + - Most playoff 40 50 60 point games. Most points on a playoff game. Most career buzzer beaters. Most nba first defensive teams (tied).The most ppg in a finals series. Only player who won dpoy & scoring title the same season. Only player to win the scoring title, mvp, nba championship, finals MVP, named NBA All-Defensive 1st team, he Did It 4 Times In his career 🐐
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 Год назад
@@omarharris4758 and he did all that in 13 seasons. Can this debate die now? Let's debate who's better between Garnett and Dirk or something
@gabrieleaster
@gabrieleaster Год назад
@@MikeBNumba6 100% accomplished more in less time with less help. I'll always stand on that argument, but it's a matter of opinion anyways. The ESPN poll already ended the debate in all age demographics. The arguments done.
@tcmb3434
@tcmb3434 Год назад
That narrative that LeBron carried bad teams to the finals has to end.
@domudeh3691
@domudeh3691 Год назад
He did . Stop being mad at the truth
@tayluc777
@tayluc777 Год назад
I’m 25 but I remember Daniel Gibson shooting lights out in the playoffs when I was young. He had a decent squad not enough for whoever came out the west though.
@nikosvault
@nikosvault Год назад
@@domudeh3691 who did he beat is the better argument. The East was a desert of talent in 2007, 2015 and 2018.
@jklb7777
@jklb7777 Год назад
@@domudeh3691 watch actual game not stat so next time u speak gon sound a lot smarter
@thsu8
@thsu8 Год назад
@@domudeh3691 LeBron carried bad teams to the Finals because the East was trash in 2007 and 2018. I can prove that because he got swept in the 07 and 18 Finals. Who's the best team he beat in the East playoffs in 07 and 18? The washed Pistons? Is it impressive that LeBron carried those teams to the Finals? Sure. But lots of players in history could have taken those teams to the Finals in that weak conference. MJ, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Giannis, Steph, Luka, Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell, Oscar, West, etc.
@FamousStarz007
@FamousStarz007 Год назад
KING JAMES💜💛🙏🏾💐
@markangelodanglay3759
@markangelodanglay3759 Год назад
I'm with you bro dray...never mind who post this..hi's just like bald head stack in d 90's...
@chrisd7993
@chrisd7993 4 месяца назад
This dude compared him to Cicely Tyson?!? WTF??? This ninja reaching like dhalsim from street fighter
@kingk5557
@kingk5557 Год назад
MJ ALL DAY! Mike’s on a different level, that no one will ever reach! He played with such effortless grace, that will never be matched! He’ll always be the gold standard for league in my mind!
@KirikoSensie
@KirikoSensie Год назад
Mj never played 73-9 team
@amaljshah
@amaljshah Год назад
Because he was that team. MJ isn’t losing to Dirk and co.
@kingtrawal
@kingtrawal Год назад
@@KirikoSensie MJ better than Lebron at offense, and MJ better than Lebron at defense. That's the entire game right there, Bronsexual. No Cap. And we haven't even gotten to winning... LeChoke loses much more than he wins.
@mizzouriv3637
@mizzouriv3637 Год назад
Lebron hasn't been the best player since 05 he cappin hard
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