Draymond & PG Discuss Their True Feelings On The NBA Business 

Respect to Dray, PG, and Jokic for keeping it real. “Playing the game is the easiest part”

I played a little soccer overseas on a mid league team and it definitely felt like a job after the first few weeks. The constant work, nutrition and knowing somebody can take your spot was stressful. I can only imagine what it’s like for the big timers. Having to perform in front of millions around the world and being scrutinized alone would make me want to quit. The few hundred - a thousand fans we would get at my games felt like pressure some times.

Announcer: how does it feel to be a champion? Jokic: It’s good. It’s good. Job is done we can go home now

Great points by them. This reminds me of the time a reporter had no idea who Klay was and asked him about the scaffolding in NY. He was delighted that she didn't ask him about ball lol I'd assumed it gets old real quick when everyone wants to talk ball with you

i'm glad this segment happened. teach these kids that there's no way to escape the LOVE for what you do in any field. it's either a passion or you're really good at it. anything else will lead to depression

The thing they dont mention is the constant stress of not being an all star player. Draymond and PG still have to perform but they still have some leniency and reputation to take them to long careers. But other players deeper in the depth chart are constantly fighting for their spot against new rookies every year to players in the G-league and now overseas. These players are now probably playing the way the team needs them to play and not the way they enjoy it. Players that were top dog in high school and college are now barely getting playing time and when they do, its not the iso scoring they are used to, its very niche or particular. Also keep in mind the garbage time players that maybe play 50 total minutes in a season but grind with the team every day. Its all work and no glory. Although the paychecks and lifestyle probably make up for all of that

This podcast is constantly putting out great insightful content.

Episode 4 of the Last Dance resonates well with this topic, when Dennis Rodman was talking about the bullshit outside "I'll play this game for free, but the bullshit that comes along outside of this zone, I can go without"

This is literally applicable to any career ever

Draymond and Paul are spot on, it’s all of stress and pressure to play NBA, I always hear my brothers big mouth saying that ain’t a job, it’s insane the amount of work these guys put in to stay in shape, eat right, mentally prepare themselves and hear the nonsense noise from a hole fans on a daily basis. These guys are the elite of the elite in sports and only like a quarter of a percent reach it. So my respect to you guy speaking on this matter.

Draymond always speaks his mind and shares his opinion on anything. Agree or disagree with him, I love his unapologetic mentality. I have so much respect for him 👍

I agree with Dray. I used to be professional overseas and its tough hooping and training everyday.

Crazy how we went from KAT lie the whole podcast to the most insightful conversations with players like Dray

Appreciate the question being asked and answered 🔥

Great content. Laid back. Makes me help me feel better understanding of how nba players think

Im a cavs fan who truly hated draymond during the cavs/warriors finals but ive grown to appreciate him a lot more as a player and especially for his insight. Great explanation without being ungrateful for an opportunity many would kill for.

shoutout to Dray for keeping it a buck. one of the few who aarent gonna give those canned NBA 2K responses that most of these players give in real life.

This is so well put. Work is work. Money ruins everything. But it can give a lot.

I wont lie I was surprised when Shaq said when he came to Nba he realized alot of guys were depressed and then I realized why... There is quite a difference between being a star, which has its own challanges, and just being a random player who struggles to get minutes, to get contracts, fear of injuries, fear of losing your spot, envy of others making more money, more recognition etc. I can see how it takes a toll mentally.

The balance between PG and Draymond. It's cool and They could just do the show together.

very good to have draymond and talk about this subject. Very very good content

Very fair points. This is a question I wish I could hear Kobe’s answer and perspective on

The fact they are complaining about being rich and famous is laughable. An now I see y some people don't support sports and call them "spoiled athletes"

watching this from a 9-5 perspective 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

Like Dennis Rodman said “Anybody can play the game, it’s just the bullshit they pay you for”.

Paul George and Draymond Green have great chemistry 🧪

There's a very small group of people in the League who truly LOVE basketball, and the fact that it's their job. It's pretty obvious who they are too.

This is dope🔥🔥Thank y’all for the amazing content 🙏🏽

Another Great vid P

I can agree even as a firmware engineer. Doing it for fun, as a hobby is one thing; but doing it for a job?... That takes the joy away from it.

Why did I think of Ben Simmons after listening to this?! 😂 Really hope he will find back his love for Basketball,

Love Dray but clearly he never had a regular job…he just described basically every job and say “you couldn’t handle it” 😂

I'm glad Draymond put it out the way he did. So many will never really understand.

I dig PG to the fullest. He's a real one. Draymond grew on me over the years. I respect them both.💯💪🏾

Pg mentioned being efficient, I feel that. I'm a heavy truck repair technician and my pay is based on efficiency. It's not flat rate for those who understand what that is, I still get an hourly rate with a bonus at the end of every month. The bonus is based on efficiency. Somedays I don't get to work in the heated shop in the winter and sometimes in the summer even a fan can't cool you down while in the shop. Work is work, no matter what you do. Being famous throws a wrench in it I'm sure, but at the end of the day they've set their families up for generations. I hope I can leave a little something for my kids when I pass. You bet your ass though, if I could ball like these guys, I'd be happily enjoying the nba as well. I just hope players don't forget where they came from or what their lives might look like if they weren't blessed with talent. I love how charles barkley always gives props to us blue collared folks. He's the only nba person that I can think of that does it on consistent basis. I wish Ja would see how lucky he is and what he's got. He's extremely talented but he's trying to throw it all away. I'm all in favor for the second amendment but different jobs have different requirements and rules that must be upheld, or you lose said job. Look at Carmelo Anthony's young life, dude had it rough but used basketball as a way to get out of it and away from it. PG and draymond seem like real down to earth dudes though. Lovin the PG podcast lately

I love hearing about the day to day routine/grind behind the scenes of nba life. People have no idea how hard it is.

This podcast is actually good. I'm impressed lol

Fantastic question and segment

I played at semi-pro level in Europe. And I completely agree with Draymond. Gamedays are super stressful. The anxiety, the anticipation, etc….

I think many people who do jobs they truly love can definitely relate to this, especially in highly specialized fields, not just sports. Definitely relatable. I hate the paperwork and bs surrounding my job but once I'm doing it, it feels like the reward for the other work.

Respect and thank you for the honesty.

Can’t hate your job and say that you wouldn’t trade it for another one

Love these 7 8 minute clips easy digestible

People were legit hating on Jokić and saying he is “faking” the persona of not having crazy reactions after winning the chip. They really dont understand of how down to earth Jokić is, he was very happy of course he was, but if y’all expected him to cry and roll over for winning the NBA championship y’all were dead wrong. He puts family first beyond anything and its how we Serbs and Balkan people in general are. Family values are something we take pride in, maybe someone else from the Balkans would be more ecstatic than Jokić because he’s more of a mellow guy in itself but at the end of the day i dont know how y’all can just expect them to cry their shit out like Lebron and Jordan did and when they dont do that call them fake and hate on them for having a realistic outlook on life. Wow family matters to him more than basketball does, how dare he! Smh

I work in customer service and this is the lowest (I feel) when it comes to a job. I wish I was 6’6 and get to play ball everyday 😭

I think the nature of humans is to think the grass is always greener. This tends to breed discontent for your occupation as we focus on the negatives and take the positives for granted. Being in thr NBA has some amazing positives. Money, fame, travel, exclusive access, etc. All the things they are complaining about are part of being a professional. And any occupation at a high level is going to require time, commitment, studying and sacrifice.

Love they are honest!

Honeslty what they're saying is true for any job, except normal people don't make millions doing it. Any job in business, tech, law, medicine, etc. is filled with stressed overworked people juggling all kinds of tasks to appease shareholders and meet deadlines.

these are life lessons yo

It's the genuine truth for every job!

I couldn’t deal with the stress of a game day? You severely understand how much stress I’m constantly under.

they say dont make your hobbies your career. it never feels the same once you HAVE to do your hobbies. It's nice however to say "if i had to do something, I'm glad it's this", then make millions on top of it. could be doing something you actually hate to do and pays the bare minimum to survive.

Pg might just have made my favorite podcast

I belong to the percentage of people that think you shouldn't make your passion your job because eventually you will grow to dislike it. So for me, I have a day job and play the sport that I love recreationally. I love basketball!

very honest discussion, respect

I'm sooo blessed. I looooove what I do. I love my job

"ITS WORK!!!" AGREE!

I like the co host,cool af. And ask good questions

Good real conversation. I love working in power plants. Been doing it for 30 years. But I HATE the 12 hour rotating shift!!!!!

Love this topic..and I understand it...obviously I never made it to the nba..but playing overseas..definitely man was a trip...some of the best moments of my life..but it's a grind...it's like having 2 jobs...you got skill work in tje morning..then full practice...then more skill work after practice...then later on..conditioning..possibly weight training...then after that it's film study...but unlike the nba..was not traveling in style...more like old Chevy ASTRO vans....alot of the times I was In the jungle...some places were hostile and crazy as hell...but it was the best...but yes if your committed it's definitely a grind...

That’s everybody you just get to enjoy the best things in life doing it

Loving the content PG! Hope ur have a great season with the clippers. I know u and kawhi gunna bring ur A game!

i agree everyone hate they job whatever they tell you its just a question of does the payment on a job go beyond the hard parts of the job and in the basketball they sure do

I am glad they are being honest about this, and telling it from their perspective. I still would take your job over mine. I got a job that pays $75,000 a year, and if I mess up or not on top of my game, we lose money, while policies and the politics of my job keeps changing. Literally we just had a rule change the other day, no discussion or debate, it just changed. And I got to remember that because the company I work for doesn't want to write down that rule change.

What he said at the end can really be life changing. Having a schedule/having good habits can really make even a really dumb or untalented person be really successful in life.

jackie really rockin the no mustache with beard boy out here looking like a puerto rican lmaooo

One of the reasons why I like and respect Draymond Green.

Nick Diaz paraphrasing: you have to hate it to love it

Paul George has 2 jobs then: playing in the NBA & rehabilitating in the NBA.. technically 3, podcasting away from the NBA. Playoff P is him!

These guys obviously never worked a 9-5 making $40k a year. I would have 0 complaints to get paid for hooping. But, I understand the point they're making.

Great insight on how playing in the NBA is a job that’s not fun almost of the time. Everybody not meant for it. It doesn’t mean ppl can’t do it. If we are out in a position for the opportunity we can show up. We just not all talented for specific roles like playing in the NBA bc of height, basketball IQ, & the luck it takes to get in the nba… getting in the nba is a harder job than staying in for most ppl lol

Dope dialogue

I love draymond😂

Players also have to worry about being disrespected and thrown out like a piece of trash. It happens in every industry, but in basketball...whew! Some players end up being "what ifs" after all the work they done put in over the years. I fight for Mr. Penny Hardaway all the time, but he's constantly written off as a "what if." Anyhow, folks on the outside do not understand the grueling schedule and discipline that you must have in order to make things work. These agencies are always looking & booking ahead so get in the game and do the best you can. Oh, and be ready for the comparisons. They're gonna compare you to three players.

Y’all should talk about pg’s and roy hibberts fishing trip😂

Facts I like draymonds answer

Beyond🙌🏻

Jokic is the truth! =) he rather chills with fam and his life stock

I think Draymond sound crazy saying you can’t handle the stress of a game day. Regular people have just as much stress if not more, without the incentive of getting millions of dollars monthly. I know money isn’t everything, but I’d rather have their stress than mine.

i like the way they think the ONLY problem i have is the way they way they say “you can’t handle the stress” as if there’s not fields that are way more stressful when you’re preparing to have to be your best or your life is over such as Military, Police, Fire Fighters , Pilots , Pathologist , Engineers , Mechanics , etc. all these fields one mistake your life could be over in the blink of an eye. If they screw up a few nights and get benched they’ll still get paid ; if they get cut they have years of money they’ve made over the contracts they signed to still take care their family with the idea that they invested correctly ! still much respect to the profession of basketball though !

Draymond: “When you wake up at 9 or 8 and have a game that night…” Wait, wait, wait, what time do you wake up for this hard job? 😂

I understand what they’re saying to some extent…but some ppl put in as many hrs as they do, if not more, as there is no off season in a lot of jobs, and they do not get to retire around 38 yrs old. They also deal with the same sort of politics etc. and make close to minimum wage. They also don’t get to play sports/workout because they are too busy or can’t risk getting injured etc.

Bless you 3 Gods

It’s crazy Kyrie speaks on this all the time!

amen to that! love my job. but i hate what comes with it. as in, the admin part, the supervision, the rules & regs… etc.

Where’s Dallas tho? But on a positive note, Jackie is becoming a better interviewer while still keeping it light. PG’s pod is actually very legit 💯

My cousin was an Olympic gymnast. She would always tell me that she loved the days she competed, but hated everything else.

I love that these two players talked about the reality of playing in the league, as fans we only see them on the court and think that they live in a fantasy world free of the everyday problems people that aren't entertainers face but that is FAR from the truth

Super real by Draymond. Everyone hates their job whether it’s 100 mill or 100k or 30k

I always felt like the hardest part of the NBA for me would have been lasting 82 games cuz growing up as a Hooper I remember playing two three times in a day six seven eight hours a day but by the time I get to the third day my legs are dead no way could I make it 82 games for a whole season My body just wouldn't hold up and I know that and I realize that at a young age.... hats off to the guys who can

Having an NBA job is like one of the best in the world, you're flying first class and staying in 5 star hotels when you travel. You have a very long summer off, you make 100's of millions of dollars, even lower level guys nowadays will clock out 100mil due to expansion of the game. The hard part is just upkeeping your body, but even then Draymond pretending like it's that hard "You can't make it to the game". You're coddled by top level medical staff to make sure your body is always on par, you have parties of people looking out for your best interest because of just being an NBA player. Don't give me that shit where he's saying "You won't make it to the game", average people work harder than NBA players, and it's not even close. 2 hour game times and working out at the gym and getting "therapy", that shits easy money.

These guys are describing every regular-ass job in the world just plus some basketball and tens of millions of dollars. It's super cringe listening to them complain. "You have to live right and be up at 8am". Wow. So unique lol

Jokic once said, his passion is for racing horses but Basketball where he is good at.

That's why they will never be a player like Kobe Bryant ever again. Cause he loved his job.

cant believe they affirmed joker talk, him being so different character

Loved how paul goerge worderd that. Theres aspects they dont like but the basketball they will always love. Im sure if draymond worked a everyday job he wpuldnt be saying he hates his job. Hating certain aspects and hating what you do are completely different things.

Nobody: Jackie: BEYOND 😭😭😭

PG and DG are toooo nice, they are very pleasant to listen to, not banal, they should be very cool conversating with, I'd not be able to trash talk them if I was an opponent.

A job is a job whether you like it or not

They should have on Carlos Vela from LAFC in the MLS he can relate to this conversation a lot