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@xxSkeleton17xx 2 месяца назад

I’m British and I’m so ashamed of what my country did to Dresden. Whilst I know what Nazi Germany did was atrocious, there was no need to destroy those beautiful buildings

@markto806 10 дней назад

Wer 2 Weltkriege anfängt... Dafür musst du dich nicht schämen.

@christopherhall3894 3 месяца назад

The destruction was done in 3 air raids by hundreds of planes dropping thousands of bombs. In less than 24 hours. At 9:30 pm on February 13 , 1945 everything built over centuries was still there. History around every corner at every turn one could look. By the evening of February 14 everything was gone. It is true the Prussian bombardment in 1760 during the Seven Years War caused significant damage to Dresden, one of THE most beautiful Baroque cities in Europe at the time. However, what happened less than 3 months before the end of World War 2 is beyond understanding. The debate regarding this will undoubtedly never end. "Dresden was a transportation hub for the Reich so it had to be done. " ( The train station was the one landmark that got through the bombing so trains were running again within 3 days. The fires from the bombs burned for a week. ) You can go to England and walk the streets of Oxford and Cambridge, visit the Cathedrals, (Salisbury's comes to mind. ) and these treasures are still there as they were. To compare what happened to one of the most beautiful cities in the world as revenge to what happened to Coventry, there is NO comparison. Perhaps compare what happened to Rostock in 1942, (still much worse) as revenge for Coventry, but not Dresden. What happened to Dresden was a war crime of the most sickening nature because besides obliterating an acknowledged center of Western Civilization of the highest order into total ashes from end to end (even the Grosse Garden and the Zoo) it was very well known by the Allies the city was full of refugees from Silesia by the tens of thousands. These civilians thought they would be safe because places like Oxford were never bombed. Yes, what happened to Rotterdam, the Blitz, the seige of Leningrad, Warsaw, the Concentration Camps were all horrible, but so was this. So was THIS.

@robertoesterini1021 3 месяца назад

The DDR plan to rebuilt the city after the war is as atrocious as the bombings, many landmarks and residential buildings that could have been restored were totally flattened because they "didn't have a place in a communist city". Luckily since reunification the old town have been rebuilt, and there are currently a lot of important reconstruction plans taking place, the more time will pass, the prettier Dresden will become, it's just a matter of patience and waiting.

@justjosh711 3 месяца назад

Yes, I think this is true. Debate about the necessity to bomb the city will likely go on forever, but I think a better question is: where were these areas that were legitimate targets? Was every corner and every street a part of the war effort? If not then it was revenge bombing. Nuremberg is another example. Yes, it housed some industry which contributed to the war effort, but it doesn’t seem like the historic part of the city was involved. Yet, the Allies bombed it because it was also symbolic. Another terribly tragic event.

@mlohr1 Час назад

@@justjosh711 No the the old city was bombed packed with citizens and refugees. On the other side of the Elbe "new city" side there were the military targets which were left intact. This can only be intentional and therefore a serious war crime.

@justjosh711 3 месяца назад

It’s so sad to think that, what took centuries to beautify, was destroyed in a matter of hours/days. What an atrocious tactic carpet (and fire) bombing was.

@Turpll 3 месяца назад

how brutal the idea of Nazism and the killing of civilians by the Germans was

@albertsmyth9616 3 месяца назад

Yes indeed, but I was told that because Dresden became part of Communist East Germany after the war the Communist authorities also destroyed large swathes of the beautiful baroque architecture of the city, so the Allied bombing wasn’t entirely to blame.

@justjosh711 3 месяца назад

@@albertsmyth9616 Yes, that’s probably right. But I can’t imagine there was a lot still standing intact at that point, given how devastated the city was. I know the communists changed cityscapes to better reflect their ideology. So that wouldn’t surprise me. So the war was the first tragedy, and the communist takeover was the second.

@filip2442 3 месяца назад

@@albertsmyth9616 Is this the fault of the Allied bombing? Were the Allies supposed to surrender to the N*zis? Or maybe they should throw flowers at them? The Germans destroyed Dresden themselves because they started the war. (in Poland, the communists rebuilt many monuments destroyed by the Germans)

@user-ul5tf8ui6t 3 месяца назад

@@albertsmyth9616 Жаль, что не до конца разрушили

@SlavicCoffee Месяц назад

I hope that they will rebuild more of the old town centre and surrounding area in the future,

@marioroth2987 Месяц назад

Dresden hat uns sehr gut gefallen! Hatten einen kleinen Campingplatz für unseren Bulli gleich gegenüber der Frauenkirche direkt an der Elbe!👌 Traumhaft schön, besonders Abends wenn die Beleuchtung der Stadt zur Postkartenidylle wird! Auch das Essen wie Wurst und Brot sind nicht zu vergleichen mit dem was wir hier in der Nord-Eifel bekommen! Dresden und das nahe gelegene Elbsandsteingebirge sind absolut eine Reise Wert! ❤

@muscledavis5434 3 месяца назад

Es tut so gut, die Beispiele zu sehen, wo der Unterschied zwischen den Bildern behoben wurde! Aber umso mehr tut es weh, die anderen Vergleiche zu sehen😢

@jimmim3000 3 месяца назад

What a beautiful city. As an American, I'm very sad for what the "worst generation" here did to it during that period. Thank you for putting together these photos so that we can remember. Hopefully, it can all be rebuilt back to the way it was, and maybe even better.

@ArchitekturTV 3 месяца назад

Thank you. A lot of american’s spend money for the Frauenkirche reconstruction.

@user-yp2mw2ko9k 3 месяца назад

"better", in which way ? Even if everything would be reconstructed 1:1, it would still be a lousy museum, full of loud and badly clad tourists. Europe`s best days are gone and will never return.

@checkcommentsfirst3335 3 месяца назад

@@user-yp2mw2ko9k As if one could predict the future in the world.

@user-yp2mw2ko9k 3 месяца назад

@@checkcommentsfirst3335 Firstly, I was talking about the presence, secondly, a lot of people were able to predict exactly what was to come: read 1984 by George Orwell or Brave New World by Aldous Huxley for example.

@gaborgredely1848 3 месяца назад

Warsaw??????

@darchir2079 3 месяца назад

Another thought provoking piece of work by you... many thanks.

@ArchitekturTV 3 месяца назад

Thank you 😊

@benni2974 4 дня назад

I currently live in Dresden and i have to say, in the 20th centuries Dresden looks way more beautiful than todays structures

@inotoni6148 Месяц назад

Dieser Krieg damals war so unnötig. Nur wegen dem Wahn eines Mannes! Leider wiederholt sich die Geschichte aktuell.

@someopinion922 3 месяца назад

I think Dresdeners owe Kurt Vonnegut a monument. Without his "Slaughterhouse 5" about the bombing of Dresden, the destruction of that city would have been as forgotten as that of other ancient German cities (eg. Würzburg).

@cl-pm5jr Месяц назад

Gut aufbereitet, Dankeschön!

@ArchitekturTV Месяц назад

Bitte 😊

@carolus5409 3 месяца назад

Even what is rebuilt now is not so perfect, it has its typos. Sadly... why simply don't build the same as it was? it is the Historic Centre!

@Sacto1654 2 месяца назад

Well, the need for wider streets to accommodate more foot traffic, bicycles and trams is the reason why the narrow streets of the pre-1945 Dresden is likely not possible anymore.

@carolus5409 2 месяца назад

@@Sacto1654 no, i am talking specifically about the facades of the buildings near Dresden Frauenkirche. Some of them are artificial modern and i don't find them suit well with the other old buildings. For example the windows

@ArchitekturTV 2 месяца назад

@carolus5409 These buildings were among the first to be reconstructed. After that, they had more experience and better laws

@Zymil273 25 дней назад

Thanks

@tobiasrykowski6473 2 месяца назад

War früher schöner...😶‍🌫️

@Equulai 3 месяца назад

Time and again impressive to see what could still be, not only in Dresden but everywhere in Germany and many other places in Europe.

@ArchitekturTV 3 месяца назад

Thats true!

@Fenris8800 Месяц назад

My hometown and still live here. Must say today the city more beautiful than earlier times imo. Its not that crowded with buildings. But its interessting to see how roads are leading back in the days before WW2. And dont know there was Palace located Pirnaischer Platz (nickname "Pirni"^^). Thx for this comparison :)

@MausTheGerman 3 месяца назад

Dresden was once called the Florence on the Elbe, also Florence of the North. In German: Elbflorenz

@piwipete1928 3 месяца назад

Now it is Plattenbau-Florenz

@ArchitekturTV 3 месяца назад

@piwipete1928 🤪😊

@klausbohlert6613 Месяц назад

Wichtig ist, daß wir aus Fehlern lernen und dergleichen nicht wieder zulassen.Leider kommen mir immer mehr Zweifel ,ob Frieden und Anstand möglich sind,zuviele Menschenfeinde verdienen an Kriege,laß uns trotzdem optimistisch sein.❤❤

@davidscott2821 28 дней назад

Those tower blocks! Yuk!

@Manaklyps 2 месяца назад

Sehr viel vom Stadtzentrum, als Dresdner hätten mich ein paar andere Ecken auch noch interessiert.

@RubenStaFE 2 месяца назад

What beautiful cities Germany has, what a rich cultural past, what a shame that today Germans have lost their identity as a nation thanks to progressive policies. In a few decades, Germany will be Muslim, and all that past will be erased.

@gernotkwaschnievski5901 Месяц назад

"Should we reconstruct? I have to answer the question unreservedly in the affirmative. Perhaps the number of people in Germany and abroad who can foresee what a vital loss, what a sad source of disease the destruction of the historical sites will prove to be is not yet so great. Not only is a great deal of great value in terms of tradition, beauty, objects of love and piety destroyed: the soul world of these descendants is also robbed of a substance without which people can survive in a pinch, but only lead a life that is a hundred times curtailed and stunted." HERMANN HESSE

@udokiesslich1352 Месяц назад

Da hat der Sozialismus aber auch harte Spuren hinterlassen im Stadtbild von Dresden.

@Pretagon 8 дней назад

naja wenigstens hatten die Leute billige Wohnungen auch wenn das nur ein kleiner Trost ist, wenn man sieht, was das mit dem Stadtbild gemacht hat

@udokiesslich1352 6 дней назад

@@Pretagon Vermutlich war die Lage 1989 in Berlin, Dresden und Leipzig ähnlich. Die Neubauten waren "preiswert", aber es gab zu wenige. Die Altbausubstanz war komplett verrottet und mit Außen-WC auf der Treppe. Viele Altbauwohnungen waren nicht mehr bewohnbar.

@eckert7875 11 дней назад

Ich kann mir das nicht ansehen. Was am meisten schmerzt ist die Tatsache dass es viele Initiativen und Spender für historische Rekonstruktionen in Deutschland gibt aber dass die jeweilige Stadt diese Vorhaben oftmals ablehnen. Völlig unverständlich meiner Meinung nach. Es ist doch eigentlich ein Geschenk an die jeweilige Stadt. Siehe Frankfurt. Tausende stimmten für die Rekonstruktion des Schauspielhauses aber die Stadt (SPD, FDP, Volt und Grüne) haben sich dazu entschieden ein weiteren Betonklotz stattdessen zu bauen. Einfach traurig.

@wotanvonedelsburg1610 7 дней назад

Weil es Antideutsche sind.

@sissitop1505 Месяц назад

" We are very grateful to the american and british government - they did a great job " - thank`s a lot

@user-nq5kl7yu4d Месяц назад

Dresden ist immer noch eine schöne Stadt. Und heute sicherlich Grüner als vor 1945. Außerdem wird es auch damals sicherlich Schmuddelecken gegeben haben, dazu der Ruß von der Kohlefeuerung. Das ändert nichts daran, dass unglaublich viel in diesen Februarnächten für immer verloren ging. Mein eigenes Stadtviertel ist heute geprägt von Plattenbauten. Auf historischem Fotos sieht man anstelle breite Boulevards mit großbürgerlichen Mehrfamilienhäusern, die ein wenig an Paris erinnern.

@ms64ful Месяц назад

Die Rechnungen für den Wiederaufbau in die USA und nach Großbritannien schicken!!!!

@MeAndi-wj4pc Месяц назад

An dieser Stelle ein herzliches Dankeschön an die Alliierten, die Deutschland von den geistigen Vätern der AfD befreit haben. Traurig um jedes Opfer, welches der Bombennacht von Dresden zum Opfer gefallen ist. Die Täter jedoch waren diejenigen, die der NSDAP in blindem Gehorsam gefolgt sind. Auch heute noch gibt es diese Mitläufermentalitäten und sie schreien brav und artig :"Nur noch AfD." Nichts haben sie gelernt.

@fb3634 17 дней назад

richtig dumm sowas zu schreiben, das hat sich nazideutschland selber verbockt. wie viele städte in europa wurden von den nazis verwüstet?

@robojokes2274 14 дней назад

Oder an den wahnsinnigen Adolf.

@DDalladas90 3 дня назад

Weil die USA und GB auch den Krieg begonnen haben 😂

@AHNKOOKK 2 месяца назад

i hate russian communism architecture....

@fueyo2229 2 месяца назад

modern arquitecture is also increasingly more similar if not already the same as that horrible soviet arquitecture sadly

@SlavicCoffee Месяц назад

Same, the cccp flats are boring

@user-nq5kl7yu4d Месяц назад

Als Dresdner: Diese Architektur hat auch Ihre Stärken. Ich finde die Prager Straße mit ihren vielen Springbrunnen durchaus schön und auch den Kulturpalast. Ich wohne selbst in einem 70iger Jahre Plattenbau in Laufentfernung zum Stadtzentrum. 5 Plattenbauten und ein modernes Wohnhaus bilden hier einen großen (200 m lang) grünen Innenhof mit mehreren Spielplätzen. Ich kann meinen 6jährigen hier unbeabsichtigt zum Spielen rausschicken. Diese großen, Park- ähnlichen Innenhöfe hat es vor 1945 hier nicht gegeben. Short in Englisch: I live in Dresden, I find Prager Straße (the pedestrian area and main Shopping Street) and the communist style culture palas beautiful. In my quater, the communist style appartment buildings are build around big, green backyards with many opportunities for the Kids to Play!

@spatzdach6537 Месяц назад

und ich hasse diejenigen, die die alte architektur zerstört haben

@gernotkwaschnievski5901 Месяц назад

In many places, the urban development and architecture could have easily been returned to the pre-war state. However, the city planning office is filled with modernists through and through. What drives these ideologists is their hatred of Dresden's building tradition, which was once world-famous. So it is not surprising that most of the good architectural designs in the classical style have not had a chance in competitions in recent years. Investors were systematically stalled with bureaucratic chicanery until they backed out. Citizens' dialogues have been held for years. Their sole purpose was to channel and divert justified discontent with the prevailing conditions. What has been raging in this city for decades is nothing other than a bitter cultural struggle between the representatives of contemporary urban repair and the backward-looking revoltists from the left-wing academic networks. The citizens of Dresden must watch helplessly as their beloved city is robbed of a historic opportunity.

@17DEA93 3 месяца назад

Sad to see that the war took so many beautiful cities so that germans could finally learn a lesson.

@piwipete1928 3 месяца назад

Have you learned your lesson too?

@jimmim3000 3 месяца назад

Learn what lesson? That they shouldn't strive to be free and have self-determination?

@kermitfrosch6559 3 месяца назад

The whole world should know that such destruction and reconstruction are planned. Always! We can see it in Ukraine today. This has nothing to do with “the Germans”. It's always a game of high finance. Look at how the World Bank and Wall Street financed the Nazi regime...

@17DEA93 2 месяца назад

@@jimmim3000 starting a world war is not really a way to "be free and self-determinated"

@jimmim3000 2 месяца назад

@@17DEA93 They didn't start the war, boomer. It was self defense against what was happening in Prussia. Do a little research.

@hans-petermuller5151 Месяц назад

damals voller nazis und heute wieder - then full of nazis and today again . das ist schwer zu ertragen - that is hard to bear - für mich als einwohner - for me as a resident

@spatzdach6537 Месяц назад

spinnst du?

@ralphe5335 29 дней назад

So ein Unsinn.... Wahrscheinlich nie da gewesen, aber dem linken Mediengeschwätz glauben, sehr amselig, hinfahren, Stadt und Menschen genießen

@robojokes2274 14 дней назад

Ja, Nazis überall. Lol.

@spioel88 7 дней назад

@@robojokes2274das geile in den Aufnahmen ist das Kleine Flugzeug von der SA Das spricht Bände.

@maxehill5465 9 часов назад

Dann ziehen Sie bitte weg aus Dresden, solche Menschen wie Sie brauchen wir hier nicht! Vielleicht sollten Sie auch mal die öffentlich rechtlichen Auschalten und sich eine eigene Meinung bilden. Das was Sie hier unterstellen hat definitiv nichts mit der Realität zu tun!

@smith8 2 месяца назад

Sad

@tomaszlerski7517 3 месяца назад

Ponieśli karę za zbrodnie przeciwko ludzkości. Ale strata zabytków to strata dla nas wszystkich

@matthiasschwarzenbolz3567 3 месяца назад

Wer ist "Sie"? Wer wurde bestraft? Doch wohl die reine Zivilbevölkerung, oder? Da kann ich ja sagen, tja selber schuld die Polen, dass sie 1944 in Warschau nicht kapitulierten. Stattdessen haben sie nicht auf den deutschen Stadtkommandanten gehört. Nun wurden sie eben bestraft. So ist das im Krieg, gelle.

@kermitfrosch6559 3 месяца назад

This attack on Dresden (and other German cities from the middle of 1944), in time of an already long-lost war, was also (and now thankfully recognized) a clear crime against humanity.

@gernotkwaschnievski5901 Месяц назад

Ein Angriff auf zivile Ziele ist durch nichts zu rechtfertigen. Wer dies tut, relativiert Kriegsverbrechen- Punkt!