@@mattstbe6452 These were made to be replaced quite frequently. The exponential savings Amazon is going to have after fully switching off of fossil fuels for delivery fleet is nuts. The trucks are plenty durable, but will probably be replaced every 3-5 years.
@@mattstbe6452 tell me you've never driven for FedEx without telling me you've never driven for FedEx, their trucks are decrepit, half the time the heat is stuck on, no a/c. loud , many blind spots the list goes on
@@happinessiskey2858 From what I’ve read they’re pushed so hard they occasionally have to pee (or worse) in a bucket in their van, so, yea, I think a toilet would be an upgrade.
I watched Doug's review yesterday and really liked learning about this Van, but I had no idea how much more fun and interesting it could be watching a proper review from a person actually using the van. Super review thanks so much!
Appreciate it! He had a couple extra quirks I didn’t know about, but really these are delivery vehicles so they start to make more sense when you see them in that context!
@@FridayAdventureClub that van is stupid for offroad, it may work in average residential areas but that thing will leave drivers stranded. It doesn't have the ground clearance as the dodge vans we use.
@@cornbreaddiabetic4615 These EDV's are based off the Rivian SUV/Pickup chassis, so if Amazon needs an AWD version with higher clearance, it wouldn't be difficult to do.
it's nothing new. the 2005 e450 i drove two years ago had offset mirrors, passenger way up on the fender, it reduces the blind spot and requires less head turn.
The bulkhead door you were noting you open through the screen can be closed by pressing the unlock button on the key fob twice, and closed by pressing lock twice. The vehicle shipping counter on the top of the screen means it was not taken out of shipping mode when it reached your facility. That may be a contributor to your connectivity issues. I would also like to note that I am very happy to see the van is doing good for your route!
@@ARSZLB Did you know t he default code to unlock an EDV is 8726? Seriously! It 's in the manual that can be accessed via the touch-screen! 🙂 amazing what one can find when the MANUAL is READ! LOL!
I work at the Rivian factory. Seeing all of the Amazon vans moving down the line then out to the lot is so exciting! We are doing what we can to reduce auto pollution. I appreciate all companies moving into the EV space. At the end of the day, it's a concerted effort to improve our air quality and not rely on gas. Thank you for the honest review.
Do a little more reading…where do you think the electricity comes from and how about the kids mining the elements…this would have a bigger carbon foot print than any other, the minute it hits the road…but I love it !
I talked to a driver when I saw one in my neighborhood. He also mentioned that he liked how the music mutes when he gets out. They are really cool. Would be interesting if Rivian offers a passenger or camper version. The adventure vans are a growing market.
Amazon drivers are going to love these, no more queuing up at the gas station at the end of the shift just wasting time to fill up, simply head back and plug in and return to a fully charged vehicle in the morning.
This was so cool, I'm surprised you're allowed to record yourself for the day while running for Amazon. It's super rad being able to see behind the scenes a bit into what it's like to be a driver for em
@@The_North0 Anything is allowed with permission. This guy has like 9 videos in and about that van, there’s simply no way he’s doing it without permission.
This is the farthest representation of what it’s like to drive for Amazon I’ve ever seen. This guy is going at a snails pace and has like maybe 30-40 stops. I did Amazon for 6 months in Las Vegas. It was 200+ stops a day with 300+ packages. If you took a break you ended up behind no matter what so no one took breaks. Also, as may have heard, the guys peed in bottles. It was so bad that when Covid first hit and our routes were shortened to 100 stops we all joked “hey now I can take a break”. There’s no AC in back of the van and you have to turn the van off at every stop so even in 70 degree weather you baked. Oh, and did I mention that a idiotic computer routes your deliveries? I would frequently have a house be my 5th delivery and the next door neighbor be my 67th. Meaning I was just going in circles all day following the non sensible route the computer decided putting me further behind. Also, you’re not even employed by Amazon. You work for a 3rd party DSP that is CONTRACTED by Amazon. Meaning every dsp is run differently and Amazon can’t be liable for mistakes. It was by far the worst job I’ve ever had and I wouldn’t even wish my enemies to work there. There’s your “behind the scenes”
holy hell this thing is awesome! lmao I never expected delivery vans to be such high tech. love how the cargo door opens/closes depending on the drive mode. that nuts
This definitely looks like a well thought out van on the inside. Let us know if you get the outside drivers door latch figured out. And also after you get some time in these vans, how you like the punch button and mechanical release. Looks like the van has some significant differences in the way you work and move around the van vs the other vans. I am really curious how that very long wheel base affects the tight quarters maneuverability of that van verses the other vans. Is it more or less easy to get around in tight spaces.
Thanks for your comment! Very well thought out van, you can tell! It’s perfect for delivery. Drivers door is a mechanical issue. I had a different van today and it was fine. We put a service order in already I think! I use the electronic button unlatch to open the door from the inside! I think manual open is for emergencies, it has a little hazard icon next to it! Totally changes the workflow. I park, grab my package, and head to my stop. No e brake, no key-turn, no opening bulkhead door or slider. Literally saves like 5 steps. And for the wheel base, I’m finding that the steering is way sharper so I don’t have trouble pulling out from behind a parked car, but the rear end does wander a bit from the path of the front wheels so you have to be mindful. It’s just so big, but it drives so smooth that it’s easy to forget! Didn’t make a video but I did a big route today with no issues, so I’m getting a feel for it!
@@FridayAdventureClub from the sound of it it has 4-wheel steering for maneuverability, although I don't drive one so I wouldn't know. Seems like everything was designed with practicality and efficiency in mind.
@@ttamcc.4674 Less often yeah, most EVs have a "one pedal driving" option. So they will use regenerative braking which puts energy back into the battery while saving brakes by using the motors to brake.
@@ttamcc.4674 You would be amazed at how little the brakes are ever used in an electric vehicle. When you ease off the pedal the motors are driven as generators and this applies a strong enough resistance to slow the vehicle without pressing the brake. Imagine how much potential energy is wasted going down a long hill in a loaded vehicle ... rather than just producing lots of heat and brake dust this thing puts the energy back into the battery.
I was hoping to see a review of this van and you did fantastic job. If Rivian can bring a camper version of it for general public, that would be really cool.
heyyy you made it before doug demuro, i actually found your video through his though. :) Thank you so much for taking us on a tour with you and giving us an inside-view of the new van and the daily life as an amazon driver.
Rivian probably has Amazon to thank for their ability to continue forth with manufacturing and production without too much issue; whereas without 'em, it's quite possibly they wouldn't have made it this far. Love the EDV!
Oh my God! The depth of this review is top notch and your presentation is brilliant. You have the potential to become one of the best the automobile reviewer. All the best
Please Rivian, survive and keep building great vehicles. EV vans are practical and suited for variety of use cases. The long wheelbase is both great and at the same time, seems challenging to maneuver in the city quarters.
Nice to see the feed backs, a couple of things that you had some problems with. I tested these vans with Rivian, and the diver door take some time to get use to, but all you need to do is press the button on door to unlock, and immediately start to push/pull on it. All the doors work by proximity, it should know that you are near, that is why the light is always on. Other wise put key fob up to door. The doors have to be all closed, locked, and key fob not in proximity for lights to turn off. The lock on the center console is for vehicle, and does not lock/ unlock screen. Finally the counter is for shipping the vehicle, so it doesn't wake up, and unlock or turn it self on while on a flatbed. On center console, its under settings, and its a mode that the EDV can be in. It can cause problems for proximity locking/ unlocking. Also when you walk away from the van, it should auto close and lock bulkhead door. Let me know if you got any more questions. I really enjoyed the video.
I like how he said I need to post this before Doug Demuro posts his. That was funny. I'm looking forward to watching Doug's take on the Rivian Amazon Vans also. Great video my man. Very Detailed and informative.
this was such an awesome video, I haven't seen anyone else make a video this informative and entertaining about the EDV. Definitely will be recommending this video to Rivian fans.
Cool video man, I knew you'd like it. You pointed out some things I hadn't fully appreciated. As far as sync issues, the first troubleshooting step should be the "Restart" button. I believe you can find it after you click the button in the top right after you hit the map. They added it like a week or two ago and it helps, but it doesn't always work! Sometimes you have to take it a step farther and reboot the whole van. You can do this by simultaneously holding button on the left side of the steering wheel and the hazards for 10 seconds. If you ever encounter that the vehicle seems "stuck" to the previous user, this will probably be your best bet. Overall, though, the sync issues have progressively gotten a lot better recently with new software updates, which is great. Cheers!
Thanks Dawg! I’ll have to look for that reset button, and had no idea how to reboot! Yeah the sync issue sounds fixable, even without the map this thing is cool to drive!
It's clear the designers really sat down with delivery drivers & got into the nuts & bolts about how to make delivering as easy as possible. It all just makes sence
No not all man. Our workplace conditions are atrocious. This guy got a special route from Amazon to hide the fact that there is like 8 rivians max at most stations as well as giving us 35 tote bags & 30ish overflow packages. This guy only has 20 overflow total. Thats why he has time to make this video unlike everyone else who are pissing in bottles bc we have almost 200 stops with 400+ packages. Using a restroom will put you too far behind on your route. It's really not ok how Amazon steadily increases our workload daily until we quit. Rinse and repeat.
I started working as an Amazon driver in October and it’s been awesome watching the EDV rollout at my station. I have quite a few friends who’ve driven it and I’ve been rescued once or twice by one. Haven’t been lucky enough to drive one yet though, but oh well haha.
that is a super cool insight into the EDV, thanks for sharing it! also: you might not deliver in my country, but you and all amazon drivers deserve a huge thank you for your line of work - hats off to you!
I saw a new EV van 2 weeks ago on the road and yesterday in my area in Gilbert, AZ. Look really cool. Totally obvious what it is. Very good video, well done.
Thank you for showing how great the new vans are. The way it is laid out not only makes the driver more comfortable, but also it is so much more efficient. I can't wait to see all delivery vans to follow suit. I am a big fan of EVs and want the world to switch as soon as possible.
Looks pretty sweet. Looks like they put a lot of thought into maximizing the inside compared to the outside size and the drivability. Would be a nice base for a stealth camper build if it wasnt electric.
Thank you for this video! I'm in Southern California, and I've been eagerly wondering when we'll see the Rivian Amazon vans, none so far. Loved your attention to detail! So practical. I hope that there will be a minivan in the Rivian future!
Thanks for watching! I think they’re rolling out in major metro areas first, so depending where you are in California there’s a chance you’ll see one soon!
@@FridayAdventureClub True this, they’re rolling out these vans in my area; I’m actually driving one right now so awesome! Btw Im in Irvine/Santa Ana so pretty big
Yup, range aside, these are the absolute truth. It’s nice being able to deliver with everything from having a ton room that’s comparable to the Ford CDV’s, an actual radio, Bluetooth for your phone to be able to listen to your favorite streaming music app, download music and podcasts, A/C that actuality works, and the biggest feature of them all, the ability to change stops on the fly. Massive game changer compared to having to go through multiple settings within the phone itself. I just it was more than 155mi, and they tend to keep you closer to your warehouse, which usually means more stops, and more packages than the gas powered vehicles.
A quick tip from another delivery guy - try packing your truck from the final delivery to the first one in order because It will be way easier to find and deliver packages on the road, you will have them in order :)
@@Blakethegoat why not? It wouldn't be that difficult for major shipping industries to set up electric infrastructure. Are you worried about electricity usage? They'd charge mostly at night which wouldn't affect energy demand that much.
@@Blakethegoat Australia is a long way off to having good EV infrastructure too. Having the AC on when you're constantly driving in 105F with a range of 300 miles is no good when the next town is 400 miles away.
Wish I drove these vans when I used to be an Amazon courier! My DSP used Nissan NV2500's, Ford Transits, Ram Promasters, and Chevy/GMC Express/Savannas (smallest). They'd always get piled to the brim with packages, WAY more than in your video. I also like that you can't blast the whole neighborhood with your music in the Rivians, that's been a little problem on the customer-side with drivers disturbing everyone nearby. It's bad enough that randos drive by with their subs shaking the windows, we especially don't need the delivery person doing it too. Plus it's for safety, gotta be aware of surroundings.
since you're saying the Chevy/GMC vans were the smallest, I'm assuming the Nissans you were driving were the NV2500/NV3500 vans? the NV200 vans were the small vans (smaller than a typical minivan)
5:10 In my (unqualified) opinion the shelfs should have some anti-slip pads on them and they should be sloped more aggressively since this: 1. Prevents them from sliding or falling off 2. Makes them stick out less into the walkway At least that is how similar shelving in Swiss trains look like. I guess steeper slopes could make it difficult for smaller drivers? Ideally you would just be able to change between two or three angles I think.
A few other people have made this comment! There’s a little lip on the edge that keeps big boxes in place, and typically smaller packages are grouped in totes so there’s not really much to slide around or fall over!
The drivers side door I've noticed is kind of weird and touchy. Also to make your life easier and eliminate an extra step while on route you can just put the van in drive and it will start navigating you to your next stop. I've driven the EDV off and on for a few months and I really like it! Oh and another note on the fan in the cargo area, during the summer months when it gets hot if you have the fan set to "auto" when you're in the van and the bulkhead and rear cargo doors are closed it will turn on and blow air from the outside into the cargo area to keep it cooler so you and/or the packages won't just bake on a hot sunny day.
great vid, doing flex in my electric car requires about 30 minutes of charging during any route over 4 hours which kind of sucks. I've had a noticeable amount of battery depreciation now that it's got 80k miles on it so I hope the vans hold up well!
Man I love your positive and passionate vibes. I was smiling the whole time watching this. Almost makes me want to be a driver for Amazon.... Thank you for what you do.
The button you pressed to open the rear rolling door looks like it was glow-in-the-dark. I’ll bet that’s required in case someone were to get trapped in there (just like it’s required nowadays to have an emergency glow handle inside car trunks.)
Here in Arizona we need cab air conditioning required by law. We have a few drivers wind up in the hospital every summer from heat exhaustion here in Phoenix.
lmao right? Don’t worry once the camera is off they’re gonna send him three addresses if he could do each rescue simultaneously please that would be great. Also they made him start his lunch break before they told him to start the video
I think this was a good presentation. It definitely makes me give serious thought to a Rivian van in the future when they are available for the general public.
Really nice to see some people at Amazon corporate care about their drivers. These rivian cargo trucks make deliveries significantly more comfortable, safe, and efficient than the old vans.
much love from a fellow Washingtonian. I loved the quality of this video. it was also great that you took the time to explain everything. Keep up the great work man. 😀😀
@@FridayAdventureClub is that a 10 hour route for you guys? We only have a couple of drivers who can complete that many and that’s with a UPS store and running
That truckin' awesome.... I follow the van lifers & these Rivians look great. Love the head room. Gas is just a killer for trying to live frugally in van life..... This Rivian will be a game changer. When Amazon retires these vans and they hit the used market I'd be checking them out!!!
I’m surprised with how nice it is inside.. both in the cargo compartment and the actual drivers area :o (which one would you drive more? The gas vans or the Electric van?)
Pro tip, when you get to a stop, you don’t have to completely let your seatbelt retract all the way back. As soon as you unbuckle, throw it over the steering wheel that will save you a couple of seconds each stop putting your seatbelt back on.
I saw one of these for the first time like 3 weeks ago. There were two of them on the back of a flatbed coming off the mountain on I-90 towards Seattle. Excited to actually see these in use as that was still the only time I've seen them.
I hope so! I’m sure they have plenty already but it’s always interesting to see how the van performs in odd/unlikely situations that may only occur in daily use.
I live right by Rivian HQ in Plymouth and always see these these things being towed. Idk if it’s bc they run out of battery or bc they break down. Either way super cool to see!
Great video and presentation! I've seen a few Rivian trucks around my area, they certainly get a lot of attention. Looking forward to seeing the vans in my area. And maybe a R1T in my driveway, someday. 😊
As a Whole Foods Team member I dislike amazon, but to see your knowledge base is amazing!! I also drive a Nissan Leaf for 3 years now. I can't imagine where all the companies are going to be with EVs and they should be saving more on fuel cost$ and paying US more!! Hello from Colorado, I do road trips in my 40kw Nissan Leaf (come see my vids) 👋🏼🌎😎🚗🔌 Ps how much range did you use at the end of the day?? I love doing stats and for all the neighborhood driving you do, I don't think you'd use that much range, unless it's cold out! Just wait til summer (that's when I do my road trips) !! 😉
Helloooo! Thank you! Used less than 40 miles of range for my route! Less than the actual miles I drove I think 🤔 The cold definitely takes some off because I keep the heater running all day, but still it’s only a couple miles I think! Hope you’re enjoying your Leaf! I was curious, does it have 1 pedal driving? That’s something I really enjoy about these new vans!
@@FridayAdventureClub yes I do have one pedal driving and that's the only way I drove now, it's amazing and you get use to it, lightly touch the pedal, feather it! I even do this one road trips and show my car at car shows !
@@FridayAdventureClub it's amazing I've made so many friends since ! No gas, no oil, pretty much free electrons if not half of gas car, the most I've sent for one "full" tank was $23.80 in Amarillo Texas!
Great video! I own an R1T and love seeing the Amazon vans pop up. BTW, it’s “when I let off the accelerator” and no longer “let off the gas” haha takes some getting use to, but it will come. Be prepared for the many questions of “yea, but who makes it”
@@FridayAdventureClub Thats great, especially if you are doing deliveries in hilly Seattle! You definitely dont want a lagging van when try to get up the hills of Seattle!!!!!
Pretty cool. And I don't say that about EV's. But they are more practical in this usage. Although I'm curious about longevity of the batteries. If vans come back with 3/4 or 1/2 charge....curious if putting them on charge daily like that will wear them out sooner. I guess Amazon is going to be first ones to tell us here in the next year or so.
During fist 1-2 years, natural degradation will be the most obvious thing to see. 10% is normal. After that, degradation rate is going to slow down. It also depends on if usable capacity drops with gross capacity or if it's being hidden until gross capacity drops below a certain amount. A 28 kWh Ioniq has got 31 kWh gross capacity, range reduction will only be visible after the first 10% are gone.
Li-ion batteries are not like older Ni-cads, It's not harmful to top them off every day. At this point, EVs are not new. There are many on the road over ten years old with a few hundred thousand miles on the clock.
@@21jimmyo It's not harmful.. but it will wear them a lot faster if they get fully charged and stand still for longer periods. Charge and drive or keep around 30-70% should be the best thing to do
good to see amazon drivers getting some nice upgrades. Its the little things too like the heated steering wheel and the grip on the back bumper for wintertime
