Driving Fail Viewers Edition #35 | Liverpool Again! 

Did you notice how lane one and two were virtually empty for quite some distance after it had overtaken and the camera car was only doing 64mph with the road clear in front.

Would be very interesting to see how his company ( assuming he isn't self-employed) would react to him driving like that. Worked for a company about 13 years ago, where the owners son was killed on a country road by a van driver that did a stupid overtake. He checked licences twice a year, so any bumps or points, you HAD to tell him. I know he sacked a salesman for a speeding ticket. Think it was 40+ in a 30mph area. The boss promoted that drivers do advanced driver courses, I didn't as I could not drive at the time due to a heart problem.

​@@marklittler784 do you mean 3:20? If so, take another look... The GPS states 66mph, which will be an indicated speed on the cars speedo of over 70mph as they over-read. Lanes 1 & 2 are not virtually empty, there are 2x HGV's and a car. When the cammer pulls over after the overtake, there's a sensible 2 second gap between them and the car ahead (you can time it yourself as the grey car moves out of the shadow under the gantry). Dashcams often make things seem further away than they really are, due to the wide angle lens. The cammer was driving in an exemplary manner. They just failed to anticipate the utterly stupid and dangerous undertake by MF71 XBP - Tatton Drives and Patios Ltd.

It’s hilarious, indeed, but also a good advertisement for the company. Advertising what company I do not want to deal with 😂

@@shm5547 There was far less room being left by most of the surrounding vehicles than the Cammer even though they're in the wrong when you have a large gap in front others get the impression your not making progress.

Not as bad as the tractor video that was a couple of years ago.

@@se-kmg355 which one? I think I remember seeing another but I'm not too sure it'll be the same one

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fT8fNE736lE.html this one!

@@se-kmg355 the one with the BMW going for the overtake as the tractor is turning right into his field with a MASSIVE piece of hay bail machinery on it.

@@ashley_neal ohhhh yes, I remembered instantly when I seen you stood on the corner of the wall. That could've been horrific. It's scary how fast you can become more or less a passenger when something goes wrong in a split second.

Try flashing them and they just flash back🤦

@@robinhosleftfoot 95% of them are completely oblivious to it, I even try turning my lights off and on again beeping and nothing they are just next level stupid.

@@gravemind6536 the result of automating everything. Only succeeds in dumbing down drivers

Agreed. I also don't understand why cars don;t have rear DRLs. At least it would help with the numpties who don't turn their lights on.

There's also the dumb drivers who never check their lights from head lights out to poorly eimed headlights and now its darker earlier you should be checking them at least once a week

Not sure I would attempt to overtake 2 vehicles in one go either. Considerable distance to cover there before he tucks back into the left.

That RoSPA handbook by Nigel and Margaret Stacey with comic like clips of potential situations I thought was good.

Here in London I feel there's a lack of patience and common sense. People with bad lane discipline wanting to jump ahead of a few cars thinking they saved significant time 🤦. I'm happy I've learnt to be patient

And avoiding overtaking and undertaking on them.

I'm not sure how much the roundabout is linked to what happened here; there's normally very little issues overtaking near this roundabout in this direction and there's 2 clearly marked lanes to go straight on, and the road to the right is an Army Barracks so gets very little traffic that doesn't know the layout. Plus, the overtake was a little clear. I think the issue was actually a distracted driver who saw the bus lane markings late and tried to get out of it quickly. If they were paying attention; they would have seen the signs saying Bus Lane not in use, use both lanes

Liquid in (rigid) containers only causes problems if the container is part-full, though. A full liquid container is not a problem because there is no room for the liquid to slosh around. I would have thought that it would be unlikely that you'd have milk in a large, part-filled container, inside a refrigerated box trailer. If it's carrying milk, then it would likely be in bottles (which would all be full), or perhaps IBCs (at least mostly full). My guess for that truck is either hanging meat (e.g. beef), or something on wheels (e.g. cages of bottles of milk) that's not been secured.

@@misterflibble9799 so I agree with most of what you're saying but 2 things I think matter with this that you seem to have acknowledged is a problem but then not realised it applies to a lorry full of plastic milk bottles, they have quite a bit of air at the top of them, the second point they are most definitely not ridged containers beside the scientific base definition of ridged of they can hold there shape on there own, they can't when any sort of pressure is applied to them.

In that case I hope Arla were happy when their truckload of cheese was delivered 👍

Yeah of course there's also fast accelerating motorbikes you need to give a warning to that you might not see too.

I certainly hope people don’t go to his website and leave poor reviews based on his dangerous driving. That would be awful…

@@CycolacFan Yes, I certainly won't be doing or encouraging that......

I hope so that it was reported. I don't understand why people drive like that.

Ah, yes, the mellow fruitloops of Keats's poem!! Too funny, Peter Rabbit🤣Thanks for the laugh!

Had to go out in the late afternoon for some shopping. Arrived in daylight, parked at an underground car park. Time to drive home and because of the lit underground parking I don't realise it's now dark outside. Numpty here was driving for at least a mile without his lights on, despite various motorists flashing me. Oops!

@@pifko87 Everyone does it from time to time, that's why it's always worth giving a quick flash to remind them. With so many back-lit instrument panels, one of the main indicators of lights off in the dark has gone. I know not all cars have the facility, but I leave mine on auto lights by default these days. Fog is the main problem with that as often it doesn't trigger the auto lights - having said that, I'm pretty keen on that one.

and if you just make a habit of not trying to overtake people in junctions, - a habit the cammer seemed to do well at - there's a lot lower risk.

@@kenbrown2808 Agreed. High risk areas like that are the last places to try and make progress.

It's not tricky at all. But when you are dealing with selfish anti-social morons you will never win.

A walk along a road in the countryside is just as bad, sadly.

@@davidrobinson4118 Indeed, sadly.

Oh I do like Bill Bryson's writings! Especially as I'm a dual Brit Canadian and have also spent a lot of the time in Bill's homeland of the USA. Anyhow maybe see you on the road to Little Dribbling!

Send the clip to the LA. The driver (actually, the registered keeper) is responsible even if they won't identify the passenger.

I miss the Pie Factory.

When I was learning to drive my instructor would tell me give way to the right including when at the front of traffic lights. Whenever I'm at the front of the lights and in the left lane I generally do let the car in the right lane get in front of me first. Sometimes their speed kind of gestures to me to go in front of them which I might do if safe to do so. Saying though about electric cars I had a Nissan leaf seem to speed off at the lights like he was trying to race in front of me. As you said though it must of been the instant torque from a standstill as he then proceeded to do 20mph in a 30 zone

@@Slicks21 I agree. I get overtaken all the time at a particular junction on my commute just the way you describe. Usually by people in Audis or BMWs knowing they can get away faster than my Corsa. Doesn't work against a Tesla though.

@@zaink7037 The problem in the clip you're referencing is the fact the right lane is a right turn only lane. The Audi had moved to that lane with no intention of turning, and you'd have to almost wait for them to clear the intersection before pulling away because there wasn't a lane for them after the lights. In some cases it's best to outrun an issue just as much as it's sometimes best to wait out a situation. It all depends on many factors, unfortunately the only common denominator is that a-holes will always be around.

@@----.__ ah if that's the case I'd see the audi in the wrong then. These people are really sad to think queue jumping in this means is going to save them significant time. Have reported a few drivers like this with a few of them getting action taken on them

@@zaink7037 All good mate, I had to watch it a few times to see the arrows. Nonetheless, your logic is sound, as would be expected from someone with such a magnificent moustache :) Peace mate.

Both :)

I remember one ridiculous overtake in the fog after a long straight and just before a sharp left. I ended up following him as he realised that I was going as fast as it was safe to go, and once his pathfinder was behind him suddenly he was the one that had to do all the work.

Clip 14 proving my point!

I rode a 12 gear racing bicycle at 30-45mph as a kid, I know I put a Speedo on it you learn escape routes that don't involve braking.

I was wondering if the MF on the number plate meant what our American friends would think ...

nothing worse than a properly powered vehicle getting beat by some sh*ty battery car.

Since you get virtually instant torque in an EV, a combustion engine is bound to lose I am afraid.

@@andrewthomas2406 Nothing worse than a caveman thinking burning highly processed oil is a better way to create motion than harnessing magnetic fields properly. Thankfully, engineers know better.

@@andrewthomas2406 do you drive an Audi by any chance?!

Yeah I was curious about how they'd accomplish that in a box trailer - I could understand in a curtainsider if their first drop was on the front (in which case it shouldn't have left the yard or done it second drop instead), but... The only thing I can think of is that he was picking up, say, 6 heavy pallets and stuck a bar across a few metres in and loaded to the rear doors to make unloading easier...

@@JulianShagworthy with the axles that far back, it would be challenging to accomplish.

@@JulianShagworthy or he was running cages, had them strapped in with a single strap that gave out during the drive. Forcing the cages to back of trailer.

Good they reduced the speed on many a few decades ago.

@@marklittler784 yeah, It always amazes me how they have these national speed limits on roads that seem dangerous to drive at 30 on lol.

@@TheDantheman12121 Yeah even 20mph on some bends and some are only a few hundred yards long. I think originally national speed limit roads were the responsibility of central government ?

Wow, nightmare!

Ah yes I feel your pain. This is exactly what my SatNav loves doing. Many a time I’ve found myself on a desperately narrow country lane, scratching my head while getting a close up view of a farm. Of course everyone else in the car is wondering why I’ve taken them on the scenic tour…

@@David-sw2fn I can totally relate. And I truly wish sat nav's had a setting for "Avoid Narrow Country Roads" in the same way that they have "Avoid Motorways" and "Avoid Toll Roads" etc. The issue is that sat navs are programmed to recognise these roads.

​@@ibs5080 Maybe a sat nav for HGV would help? Another problem is that what were nice quiet, peaceful hamlets on country lanes get turned into rat runs. Outside rush hours they are my preferred roads for cycling.

@@grahambonner508 I did think about HGV sat nav actually but my thought is that this could then deny me many routes that would be perfectly decent for cars and send me on some long HGV diversions. Another solution is to do a dry run of a sat nav route before actually driving it and putting in an intermediate Via Point to get the route you actually want, thus avoiding the narrow country lane.

i set my sat nav to avoid motorways, much more enjoyable taking the country route and so many places you can stop for rest. could take a simple 3 hour trip along motorway more stress and to get to first bathroom after motorway you really got to put foot down after average cameras even if only get caught in 20 min slow traffic. i stick to country roads you can always find a place to stop and i like to explore, simple 3 hour trip M6 around Birmingham, M54, A5 i actually head the wrong way i head south first then head towards the A44 A470 Towards Crossgates after that every trip from there i take a different route it means driving never gets boring you never get tired you to busy to get tired, so 3 hour trip fast roads anything from 5 hours half to longest drive 12 hours the 12 hours i decided to drive the coast west wales until i was in line with crossgates then head east, every trip add few way points through cut overs over few mountain roads what less used it makes a stress free drive and enjoyable but average is about 7 hours winter and about 8-9 hours in summer. just take lots mini stops, 5-10 mins and back on the road stop to long back pain sets in the rest trip horrid so try to keep moving with lts short stops so quick bathroom stop a quick smoke and back on the road. even my trip to scotland to the very north 1500 miles in total and mostly A roads all the way, can do 180 miles in about 8 hours in wales so its going to be a week plus long road trip going and exploring. ive always thought the trip away is a part of the holiday so i start my holiday for the journey too and now so many places i want to go back to with my better camera, holiday trip to coast as kid i always looked forward to the long drive still got that now @@ibs5080

I think the bigger problem is the total lack of any education regarding car control (correcting slides etc) and reading the road surface to asses it's traction.

That and the magic roundabout in Hemel! :)

I wonder, I rather have the carnage behind me than in front of me. If the overtake can be done safely of course.

@@StefanVeenstra if you're behind the idiot you can stay well away from them and if it does go wrong for them you're not involved. Worst case is the road is blocked and you can turn around and drive away safely 👍

@@richardgiles2484 in theory you're right, in practice there's always the possibility that they cause the crash while they pass you (or cut you up and crash right in front of you before you can build up that safe distance)'

@@ArminGrewe understand what you are saying. However it's always severed me well and you do get to see the idiot pay the price sometimes 🤣 anyway stay safe my friend 👍

@@StefanVeenstra Nah, the carnage behind you could _be_ you. This is doubly so if it's you they're being an idiot directly behind. Let them pass and hopefully you'll never ever see them again.

Clip 15 you mean

@@ilikechickensausages2075 Well spotted! I've gone back and corrected it now. Apologies for my poor observation...and no I wasn't the driver of the VW, though this may still indeed count as a Viewer Fail!

@@ibs5080 😉👍

The cammer was doing 70mph on a road that was 60 at most. You're right to think that overtake was a bad idea. It baffles me the number of people who are saying that there was nothing wrong with it.

The flickering always happens when you record led lights..that wont be visible to the naked eye. Correct on every other point though.

I wonder if self-driving AIs will learn to spot these sorts of risk factors too. :)

@@1ninjatiger Yes but i can guarantee they'll be flickering by the naked eye too, they always do because they're terrible quality.

@@archechme well you can’t really “guarantee” it lol some of the aftermarket lights are pretty good. A lot of these guys do spend a lot of money on their older cars. Can’t be sure about this moron though eh.

Also playing right turn lane/straight on bingo.

Just sort it going forward Kris. Thanks for sending in!

Yeah maybe a right indicator would have implied you weren't stuck at a bus stop

@@marklittler784 "I tried with my offside indicators on"

It's probably flying to the next charger lol

3:09 there are two lories on the left lane and the car moves to the left as soon as he can. The driver of that Ford is a retard and shouldn't be allowed to drive a shopping cart.

There's no hogging when people on the fastlane keep to the speed limit. Although place on the road is a thing. If there's room in one of other lanes and it isn't going much slower, might as well make room for the narcissists driving like highway codes are not for them. No use escalating it to something more dangerous.

@@StefanVeenstra Highway code, rule 264 - Keep in the left lane unless overtaking. If you are overtaking, you should return to the left lane when it is safe to do so. There is no excuse for driving in the right-hand lane when there is no-one to your left

you shouldn't be flashing any road user to get out of your way.

Sat nav said camera car was doing 64mph trucks are limited to 60mph speed limit was obviously 70mph and lane 1&2 was clear ahead!

It probably wasn't obvious to the cammer but if you reach 2 cars one of which is stuck behind a slow moving one, there's a good chance they're evaluating an overtake.

I totally agree hence why you go to that centre line straddling position. It's a the last pause and evaluate chance allowing for a "I think this is on and I'm going to give my self a half second look just to confirm my assumptions/observations are true" moment.