Driving simulators should simulate everything! | Which one does rain the best?

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This is a non scientific, super subjective test. I love the way AMS2 looks, although the wet weather driving seemed weird. ACC does a great job all round, and RF2 is super difficult but looks the most realistic to me.
I don't think any do the job perfectly, but at least its something...
Props to the developers of each simulator for including it. :)
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@Robalogot 2 года назад

If a sim does rain I feel it should be doen as realistically as possible. The problem with that is that it's just not fun to race in the rain... The problem is that most simracers compare rain racing in sims with what they think it should be, not what it is. I've raced in the rain in real life and my main takeaway was that visibility is a lot worse than any of those three, the roostertails hiding the cars in front of you is one thing, but those roostertails hit your windscreen or helmet like a gardenhoze constantly spraying in your face. Also I found the car being tail happy not as problematic as they are simulated, but what's lacking is the absolute lack of grip on the front end. If you try to turn in over a certain speed nothing happens. Even in this comment section people say it feels like ice as if it's a bad thing, but it does feel like ice in certain corners.

@fil5775 2 года назад

and also i never seen simulators with rain where the faster racing line is the actually wet weather line, where theres less rubber

@VishnuRajam4x4 2 года назад

iRacing is doing rain right. Should be coming out later this year.

@mauricebarry8858 2 года назад

@@VishnuRajam4x4 hope it’s in the next update or two, I wanna race nascar in e rain online lol

@VishnuRajam4x4 2 года назад

@@mauricebarry8858 supposed to be coming this year. Hopefully sooner rather than later

@David-nb2bc 2 года назад

@@VishnuRajam4x4 They have been saying it is coming out for like 10 years now well, maybe 10 year is bit too much you get what I mean.

@kev.kaviation1751 2 года назад

In rF2 latest update, rubbered in lines get slippery when wet. So there is an actual wet line now which has more grip. Needs to be more tested but it's the first Sim that does it now

@Leynad778 2 года назад

Nope, it's just slippy everywhere and total BS.

@doug_vickers 2 года назад

An interesting comparison Dave. Let's see how iRacing implements rain, but I think we may still have some time to wait. Great video and love the bloopers at the end. 😂

@dibley1973 2 года назад

Great video and comparison. Also first time I spotted your outtakes on the end! Nice one!

@davecamm 2 года назад

Legend 😁

@unscrecon1 2 года назад

Great video Dave . Your face is redder than mine an I’ve had an allergic reaction to my epilepsy meds . Your correct about being currently spoilt in sim racing … competition breed’s improvement across the board .. just being able to do comparisons like this wasn’t really a thing a few years ago.. same with the equipment. Such a vast improvement in both quality an affordability in the last couple of years . Likely due to sim racing going more main stream over the niche it once was . Couldn’t of picked a better car to test with though.. love the Porsche cup in any of the sims .. although my personal favourite is rFactors .. but the wet weather driving is extremely difficult .. easier in certain cars .. usually the more modern content ..(the Porsche cup in rFactor 2 hasn’t been updated for some time ) doesn’t detract from how it drives but not sure it has the new tyre model ? If 397 make a 992 I will be in sim racing heaven … in the dry out of all the sim’s the rFactor 2 Porsche drives the most realistic for me … hard yes .. tricky yes … rewarding when you get it right… but most importantly just pure fun. You should give the BTCC cars a blast in the wet if you want a good wet race to test in rFactor 2 .. just adds even more to the paint swopping adrenaline rush that is BTCC . Plus the wipers an windshield react completely differently to the rain droplets on the new content .

@gentleracer7779 2 года назад

Great video once again Dave!

@VelvetGoldminer 2 года назад

Excellent video Dave. Your set up is amazing too. Quick question, what gloves are you using?

@formulaotaku 2 года назад

glad I'm not the only one who thinks that RF2's wet tracks are unreasonably slippery. looks great though

@drivingafterstrongcoffee409 2 года назад

I'm triple jealous, it looks amazing, like!

@Aut-Pax-Aut-Bellum 2 года назад

“I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again” - or I’ll at least try and say it again 🤣 Loving the outtakes!

@davecamm 2 года назад

Legend 😁

@Infi1337 2 года назад

Jesus the sound on ACC.

@davidius74 2 года назад

Have you tried doing it on GT7? In one of the races on Tokyo there is standing water and it does reduce your speed as you go through and you get feedback aswell. On one of the races on Le Mans depending on the level of water on the track and how heavy it is raining, even on intermediates you can get a bit of a slide either left or right if it is too wet showing you need to take it more careful or change to full wets. Also as the track dries out the inters start burning off more and losing grip if you stay on the line but if you keep going over to the wetter parts of the track it helps to ease the tyre burnoff, like real tyres do. Also, depending on how wet the track is changing gears sometimes can be tricky if you get wheel spin and the car will start to lose control meaning you have to back off. Visibility changes too depending on how much water is on the track and if it is drying out or the rain is getting heavier.

@JT4GM4K3R 2 года назад

Increasing rear camber adds more grip in RF2. That's because there's more static friction from the larger contact patch. I think that because wing downforce doesn't seem as connected to grip, than contact patch does, dialing in cars has a steeper learning curve with RF2.

@MrMiniPilote 2 года назад

Good stuff. I enjoyed the "seat of the pants" review of the different ones. How about a review of the AI in each of them? Thanks for the content.

@csmith9684 2 года назад

How do these sims compare to PC2 ? (To the weather driving only) I know pc2 is old, but thought it was a pretty good "console" sim at the time. Specially with live changing weather atmosphere & track conditions. I fired it up the other day & remembered how weather was so dynamic and life like for 2017? It was the 1st sim that u can really feel the tires grip from the road. Also liked how hard contact with other cars felt real & not flimsy. Cool video BTW!

@Morriitz 2 года назад

Hey Dave, in rF2 you usually don’t use 100%. In a real race Situation it‘ll go up to 50/60% at max

@wea71 2 года назад

Dave, looks like you are using a new wheel not listed on your hardware list above. Looks great, what wheel is it?

@valter_vava74 2 года назад

Hi Dave, nice video, but you should have used the 991 Cup car on ACC instead of the 992 for the comparison to be more direct and accurate.

@jonathanowen8389 2 года назад

I just wondered do any of the sims take into account race track paints. Unlike the old days FIA -FIM approved special race track paints are used today which actually help traction on kerbs etc, in all weather conditions compared to the past.

@studlydudly 2 года назад

Did you have the tracks pre rubbered in, or did they start green?

@magicgamester Год назад

Great comparison Dave, I mainly race iracing, as theres always a race i can jump into due to my limited free time PLUS I dont have triples so use vr. But...out of these three, which would be best for vr? My specs : i7-9700k 16gb ram Rtx 2060 super 8gb. Many thanks for any info yourself or anyone else can give 👍

@alexanderredhead6847 2 года назад

Hi Dave. What about AC with CSP and extended physics? Also, I seem to remember PCars2 felt pretty good in the wet and looked amazing

@MikkoRantalainen 2 года назад

I think PC2 does standing water and visuals very well but I think it doesn't simulate higher traction when you go off the racing line in rain.

@alexanderredhead6847 2 года назад

Yes you’re right about that. I wonder how iRacing is going to compare…

@6665hitm4k3r 2 года назад

Interesting video, but I think it's difficult to judge the full scale of the different sims and their rain implementation based on a few short races, as it's a pretty dynamic feature. rF2 doesn't have hydro- or aquaplaning compared to ACC and AMS2, wich is a bit of a draw back, but it's drying line after the rain based on vehicle trajectory is still quite advanced and better than in ACC for example. After the latest update ambient and track temps affect how fast it dries aswell and until around 50 % wetness you have less grip on the rubbered in surface, while the rubber get's washed away with more and more water. According to the devs 100 % wetness in rF2 is Monsoon aka red flag state and you would clearly need a wet setup. No wonder you kept spinning on your dry setup where AMS2 seemed like alot less rain. Curbs and even the white lines affect grip levels in rF2. All in all I am glad that devs spend the effort on implementing wet weather and all sims do atleast a decent job. Also intersting to see how AI handles wet weather wich is quite an important part for me. ACC and rF2 do this quite a bit better than AMS2. Another interesting test would be to test slicks in wet and mixed conditions or stuff like tyre cooling.

@Leynad778 2 года назад

I'm running AMS2 with AI quite a bit and often put the last quarter some light rain in the mix, so racing with slicks. AI works quite well and usually doesn't change tyres if it's not getting real slippery. rF2 AI is still broken and never really tried AI in ACC.

@nicolatranchino7089 2 года назад

@@Leynad778 yeah but they're inconsistent and often very slow when wet. I had couple of races yesterday, half race in started to rain and times went from being within half a second from each other to give the ai 5 second a lap just cause was damp. AMS2 might look the best out there with rain effects, but that's just graphics. The actual grip level, curb behavior, ai handling and visibility is incredibly off.

@StevenYanni 2 года назад

Can you please share your settings for SC2 Pro for AMS2, I was never able to get any good feedback on that sim, Always feels light in corners and very springy. Thanks

@jonathanowen8389 2 года назад

I use the presets in Truedrive. Some give the settings in AMS2 as well. I personally use the rFuktor custom FFB and recommend it. Hope that helps.

@Leynad778 2 года назад

Just gain, nothing else and default+.

@jcsquared1111 2 года назад

Acc is my first racing game i have ever really played. Just upgraded from console to pc. What wpuld ypu say second best sin racing game is? As deff wabt to try 1 of the others as well? Any inout is gladly accepted here. Thanks for the vid.

@kevin_m 2 года назад

No sim is perfect and all have pros/cons. My current faves to fire up are AMS2 or rFactor2 (arguably has best the best ffb). If money no prob take a drive in others as well and Raceroom is free to try. Most important thing is to have fun!

@JoeBriers93 2 года назад

hi dave just curious, how much would it cost me to race in VR like you i already have rig and full fanatec setup and a monitor stand with small monitor? thanks alot

@nicolatranchino7089 2 года назад

I dont think dave races in vr. I cant recall any of his video in vr. He's usually on a triple 27' monitors setup

@marc-andrehogue114 9 месяцев назад

Hey Dave, you should do this again with the updated AMS2 tire physic and Wet line.

@iogcjimbo 2 года назад

should try it in vr dave so much more real

@thedudeabides3403 2 года назад

More vids like this please bro

@kevbarber 2 года назад

Enjoyed the video, but my AMS2 wet races look a lot wetter than yours! Are you sure you didn't select Mildly Moist!? 😉🤣

@shorty808100 2 года назад

You should try GTS/GT7’s rain/ice physics on that game you have 0 grip in the rain I dunno if they ever fixed it I’ve quit console games and just play PC sims now gotta get AMS2 and RFactor right now I can’t use my left foot I had surgery on it 60 days ago had 3 torn tendons repaired, and it’s still not ready to press a load cell yet hoping another 2 weeks and I’ll be able to play I’m so slow and can’t keep the car in control with 1 foot

@MM-mx8sr 2 года назад

I think youre just right, between acc and rfactor would be ideal

@bbazzahh 2 года назад

How do you make ACC look good? I've got everything on epic and is still blurry and low res

@perryphillipsde7551 2 года назад

You are right, its unreal engine 4 low inner resolution. Just use DSR on Nvidia. I go with 5120x2880 on my 4K Monitor (Downscaling) and have now a similar Resolution like in other sims. If you not using DLSS or FSR you can even use the internal scaling slider. I use DLSS Performance on my 5120 Resolution (RTX2080S) and it looks great.

@flightsaitek4087 2 года назад

What wheel was being used? Interesting to see how each game also uses that replay on the wheel. Seems different then the Fanatec ones listed on the description.

@MelfjeProductionS 2 года назад

VPG Sim V-RSPG i guess.

@vpgsim3524 2 года назад

Yep that’s one of our wheels 😎😬

@Globespy 2 года назад

iRacing formally thanks you for important player feedback as they get closer to releasing always real time weather 😉 Seriously, RF2 was the best looking by a mile and iRacing has to at least be at that level or hopefully better since they've had quite enough time to work on it 🤣

@memoryremains2004 2 года назад

Dave, what’s going on with the wiper in RF2? It seems to disappear when it sweeps back to the right hand side and isn’t showing on your right hand screen 😮.

@davecamm 2 года назад

I know 😂

@2ndLastJedi 2 года назад

Some weird FOV seat position render issue, moving the seat a little forward is a workaround.

@TheF00 2 года назад

Hey Dave, great video! Where can i get this Wheel ? :D

@vpgsim3524 2 года назад

It’s the V-RSPG by VPG Sim 🔥😎

@TheF00 2 года назад

@@vpgsim3524 Thanks! Men there are several version to your wheel mentioned. Specially the 12 led buttons are on some websites with and/or without stickers.

@vpgsim3524 2 года назад

@@TheF00 the latest version is the one on pur website and the one with illuminated telemetry control buttons. Each wheel comes with a sheet of button stickers. If you like to see more pics/video send us a message on IG/FB and I will happy to answer your questions 😬

@Only_Sims_ 2 года назад

I think AMS2 has the best feel; ACC has great variation of track feel; rFactor2 has the newest version of Donington Park and you can certainly tell. They're all three great!

@SerialDriver 2 года назад

Curious to see in iracing. Maybe next season

@Voncid 2 года назад

Dave, iracing indicated that it was going to have rain in the simulator several months ago but haven't heard anymore on it. Have you seen anymore on it???

@noahhaynes1917 2 года назад

Last known update was the charity event. No date atm but I'd say we are closer now.

@Voncid 2 года назад

@@noahhaynes1917 But according to the bulletin on iracing we would also get tire compounds selections and rain tires🤙😎

@kOBR4one 2 года назад

Yeah visually rf2 looks the best. Actually never heard of it before, is the game any good?

@kevin_m 2 года назад

You’ll get mixed responses re: rFactor2. For me it’s got the best ffb and I do the most consistent lap times in it. Run qualifying session so Ai sort themselves out and you can have some really good racing. Multiplayer is not great I’ve heard.

@azarisLP 2 года назад

This comparison is meaningless if you don't choose the same level of grip in every sim. If you use "default processing" track conditions in AMS2, it's a barely wet surface. Changing it to "wet" makes you a good 5 secs a lap slower. And AFAIK 100% wetness in rF2 is monsoon red flag conditions. So largely in irrelevant comparison. The kerbs in AMS2 could be a bit slippier, mind you.

@davecamm 2 года назад

I set it to rain. It should be wet 👍

@azarisLP 2 года назад

@@davecamm If you set it to "default processing" with rain it will take a long time to get wet as it starts from a default "green but dry" condition.

@simonebelle9028 2 года назад

Exactly, I imagine if you took a look at track wetness before clicking drive, it would have said "moist" at best. Try setting it to Thunderstorms or heavy rain and it will then say wet or soaked and you will definitely have standing water.

@BoomerStudiosRacing 2 года назад

I made a similar comment a short while ago with a link to a video I did several months ago with standing water and how it affects the cars handling in AMS2.

@georgemerkon1408 2 года назад

Please Dave.. LE MANS CIRCUIT!

@J273 2 года назад

How does your RF2 looks this good? Ive tried it loads of times but can't get past the 1995 graphics, But yours looks superb?

@davecamm 2 года назад

No mods or shaders. Just pretty much maxed out 👍

@J273 2 года назад

@@davecamm Think I’ll have to give it another try. Does look very impressive

@MM-mx8sr 2 года назад

And in vr it looks very good too and has good Performance. Catching up acc a little

@WhippyWhipGaming 2 года назад

it's the brand new tracks, the old content still looks like dogshit

@clipsolo 2 года назад

Looking at the Porsche youtube -series with Michael Fassbender, they do seem to struggle a LOT in rain. So in that sense I’d give the edge to RF2 here. Might be time to get that one myself too. Funnily enough, to me RF2 looks almost the best of the three here, although the track certainly is like a mirror in rain :D

@labounti 2 года назад

It only looks like that with 100% wet track which is also terrible to drive on. The reflection changes with wet percentage.

@clipsolo 2 года назад

@@labounti rf2 seems to be heavily discounted now! Time to jump in.

@labounti 2 года назад

@@clipsolo yeah sadly they are not so generous with the 3 dlc packs on sale. Only $7 off the GT3 and endurance packs. I didn't have any dlc before.

@EFUwazurike 2 года назад

Anyone remember how Project Cars 2 simulated snow as well?

@tedpal5098 2 года назад

I think RF2 is a little too extreme. You don't see this in the real-life races. To me it's more like driving on ice or snow.

@lilfurbal 5 месяцев назад

Curious as to where iRacing is going to place on such a lineup. :p

@ommachining154 2 года назад

Hey Dave, you should try custom FFB for ams2, it completely change the game for me, i wasn’t a big fan of the default ffb, but now it feels amazing.

@jeltef3190 2 года назад

which one do you use then? ima kinda curious how much it would differ

@trevz1048 2 года назад

Default+ is good

@lucasimo3205 2 года назад

** Iracing c'mon do something meme **

@thecaddygrasscutter 2 года назад

How come in rf2 the wiper didn’t stray off your center screen ?? Not the point of the video but it was annoying the heck outta me !!! 👍

@davecamm 2 года назад

Yep annoys me too 😂

@WhippyWhipGaming 2 года назад

acc wet weather times tend to be on the fast side compared to irl

@jamescrook2077 2 года назад

I think iracing does rain best

@opmike343 2 года назад

I find AMS2 in general a little TOO friendly when it comes to extreme slip angles and recovery, wet or dry. Definitely not as punishing. I don't want any sim to dumb things down for mass appeal. Hyper realism, for me, is a great thing as long as it doesn't cost as much as real racing, LOL!

@2ndLastJedi 2 года назад

100%

@JustCoconutsGaming 2 года назад

does anyone know what rim he is using?

@vincentsantucci2478 2 года назад

Think it's a VPG wheel but hard to tell with the lighting

@vpgsim3524 2 года назад

Yep,it's our V-RSPG

@JustCoconutsGaming 2 года назад

@@vpgsim3524 ohhh sweet. Im gonna check it out. Thanks for replying!

@s3nTer 2 года назад

oh wow, rfactor 2 just looks so.. real

@chrisparry4461 2 года назад

RF2 rain effects etc are so much better, ie beading on window etc.

@2ndLastJedi 2 года назад

The mod cars in AMS2 actually have better windscreen rain effects than the default cars.

@carlosfandango2419 2 года назад

Pretty sure someone else has just done one of these and GT7 came out ontop, as it probably should.

@snippidippi 2 года назад

Acc simulates rain in dry 😂 rr,rf2,pc1/2 and so on have normal physics that most can handle and then you play acc it feels like your soapcup simulating. Always nervous for a surprising spinning or similar in acc out of no where

@marchitielo 2 года назад

I'am actually getting out of ACC for that, it´s a weird feeling on the dry, the car does not seems to have any downforce and you see the streamers runnnig its more weird because they throw the car on the corners, hehehe

@snippidippi 2 года назад

@@marchitielo I finally managed to play it well and I have played almost daily in 1 month. Really rewarding after. A tip is to put TC and ABS on max and then lap after lap lower it by one, then you will find your limit. Some can play on tc 1 and abs 1 but I'm like tc 4 and abs 5 to find my comfort

@Bonoscot 2 года назад

Best rain effects in a game (still till this day) is Drive club on PS4......nothing on the gameplay like sims on PC tho

@PaladinWombel 2 года назад

Which monitors is he using? I dont think these are the curved monitors Dave put in the description😅

@davecamm 2 года назад

I use these. I need to update 😁 www.benq.eu/en-uk/monitor/gaming/ex2710q.html

@PaladinWombel 2 года назад

@@davecamm thanks!

@krizkrytyk 2 года назад

The ACC cup car (992) has ABS though!

@jonferraez 2 года назад

Yep, the Porsche 992 GT3 Cup in ACC has ABS but no TC. The same car in a different racing series though has no ABS and no TC (iRacing). In real life depending on the series it is racing in, the car can have ABS or no ABS, and TC or no TC. It can have either added as options.

@zeekot4064 2 года назад

Iracing 😉

@stefanwehinger1235 2 года назад

@angryginger791 2 года назад

I want them to simulate it as accurately as possible. If that makes it much more difficult, so be it. I certainly don't want it dialed back just to make it easier for the average player. I mostly run iRacing and I think rain will be very polarizing in official races. In some series, slower cars in particular, it should be fun, but for faster stuff I think it's going to be havoc. It'll be a blast in endurance races, for sure. Hopefully they are taking so long because they are making sure they get it dead on.

@regibson23 Месяц назад

This is in desperate need of an update.

@Toptechitsimracing9601 2 года назад

RF2 , then ACC , acc is very numb in the rain

@racerguy6979 2 года назад

I’m confident when iracing releases it we will be blown away.

@joshprout1726 2 года назад

I sure do hope so with the time they’re taking to perfect it. But from the little bit they have shown I think it will be superior as well

@mattalford3932 2 года назад

gran turismo 7 does rain better than anyone else right now lol.

@Duke49th 2 года назад

To be honest I don't care weather if I cannot drive online on my schedule with strict rules to keep away people that just want to destroy your fun.

@nickspacemonkey 2 года назад

If driving on water feels like driving on ice, I wonder what driving on ice feels like?

@staceyfunk9689 2 года назад

Driving on the moon.

@Leynad778 2 года назад

pCars 2 offers that and felt great when I've tested it the last time in 2017 or 18.

@Leynad778 2 года назад

The rain-racing in AMS2 can differ quite a lot depending on the car and when it feels great, it's the best. The Porsche Cup has too much grip in the dry already and that's not one of it. Driving the 992 in ACC is a bit of a cheat since it's a completely different car and more like a Gen 1 GT3 R than a 911 Cup. These machines are driving high 2:19 at Spa (not ACC) and 1:29 at Red Bull Ring. The 911 is horrible in ACC in the rain, at least it was before 1.8 and the 992 is a lot better. Rain physics in rF2 are just BS and feels like driving on ice. I was watching enough 24h races on the Nürburgring with onboards in heavy rain and it's not like that at all. In the dry IMO the Porsche Cup 991 in rF2 is the best and the 992 in ACC 2nd.

@f0rdfalc0n46 2 года назад

I have ACC and also iRacing. ACC has more grip in the rain than iRacing has in the dry…..

@uSACRIFICE 2 года назад

That’s why it’s called iceRacing

@Leynad778 2 года назад

Looks like you've not tried iRacing recently. There is tons of grip and IMO too much of it.

@f0rdfalc0n46 2 года назад

@@Leynad778 yeah I have I play it all the time. ACC has grip x10 compared to iracing.

@hairyracer2214 2 года назад

It's hard in the rain in real life very slippy and the Sim should be the same, treat the race with the respect which real life would need.

@zainhaider6724 2 года назад

Assetto Corsa has a mod which supports rain too.

@rayjones7725 2 года назад

They do and it looks great but do they have wet physics for both online and offline now ?

@thirtytwoforty 2 года назад

4 - RaceRoom ;)

@chrisparry4461 2 года назад

If only RR did rain!!

@thirtytwoforty 2 года назад

@@chrisparry4461 it’s nice to dream. Someday it’ll come… I’d bet, before iRacing gets it! 😁

@toquita3d 2 года назад

AFAIK they all suck and none actually simulate correct wet racing lines. In ACC you're still faster on the rubbered line compared to the outside, which is totally wrong compared to real-life. Same with all sims, IIRC. Maybe rFactor 2 actually simulates a proper wet racing line, but I'm not sure about that either.

@kev.kaviation1751 2 года назад

Yes the last big rF2 update introduced wet lines. Rubbered in lines are now more slippery when wet

@toquita3d 2 года назад

@@kev.kaviation1751 Thanks! I've GOT to test this :) Haven't played rF2 seriously in..... almost 4 years I think.

@WhippyWhipGaming 2 года назад

wet line only matters when there's a rubbered in track

@svshadyinvestment6647 2 года назад

Where is Iracing rain?

@Jt7166 2 года назад

I don't think rain is all that realistic in any sim at the moment. Us sim racers all say we want realistic rain, but as the Kunos guys pointed out, nobody actually races in it 🤣

@Sean-ps3ec 2 года назад

Acc

@enricobononi8655 2 года назад

i thought the best one was iracing....LOLOLLLL

@jonathanowen8389 2 года назад

Good one😀. God help iracers when they add rain. I can't find the limit in the dry, due to the games lack of feel, let alone the wet.

@lofoscopico 2 года назад

I know which one doesn´t... 😁

@mypronounismaster4450 2 года назад

rain? meh... I want to know which one simulates road head the best.

@HazewinDog 2 года назад

man I can't wait for AC to be the new standard once it gets to that stage. only a matter of time! the question is how much time :)

@lebojay 2 года назад

Question for iRacing devs: for how much longer do you think your customers will tolerate you being dead last for graphics and immersion? I know I’m losing my patience. Stop coming up with new cars and tracks to get our money and fix the friggin core product!

@shyfty221 2 года назад

As long as people pay for tracks and cars, why stop? Im totally with you tbh, but often an update of the core product or even the gfx is extremely difficult if at all possible. Luckily we have enough sims to pick from 😊

@StevenYanni 2 года назад

As long as it remains the best competing experience and online racing sim out there. I’m yet to see any other platform even come close

@Duke49th 2 года назад

What do I need graphics and weather if I have no strict rules and cannot drive online because of people crashing me. And no, with 41 and full time job and family I will not join a racing league and maybe even pay again and being forced to drive when THEY want me to or some bs (was there before). Although they could lower their prices a bit. I find iRacing pretty expensive. But I also must say I am only interested in IndyCar and Nascar on Ovals.

@shorty808100 2 года назад

I don’t care if it’s the best looking as long as the physics are good and the competition is good as well that’s all that matters to me in a sim visuals are a second to me even though I’m rocking an RTX 3080 Ti

@lebojay 2 года назад

You are all correct - very good comments - which is why I stick with iRacing for now, but if I was an executive there I’d be worried about the five-year outlook without a major overhaul.

@neilbezuidenhout9284 2 года назад

So it's only a Sim if it simulates everything huh? So then there are no real Sims. Engine failure.... Coolent leaks, brake failure, oil on track, oil leaks, overheating, fuel system failure.....i could go on.... But my point has been made.

@davecamm 2 года назад

I agree

@nuztuz903 2 года назад

well you can overheat cars in most sims and I've experienced an engine blow up in ams 1 during an enduro so the big ones are there

@tonitornado1109 2 года назад

rF2 has no puddles and so aquaplaning and fixed 28 degrees track temp at any time since 2012 regardless what the fancy menu pretends to offer so its just a big unfinished and also now outdated sim ISI got just rid of.

@paulcole 2 года назад

I find AMS 2 like ICE, ACC too bland and RF2 the Goldilocks for me, just right! Do a wet Le Mans in a GTE around 9:30pm as it gets darker and wetter - just insanely good

@2ndLastJedi 2 года назад

rF2 drives great, amazing really, also looks great now, it has once again become my go to sim. Pity the puddles do nothing and Ai still need work but I live in hope that the glacier that always was rF2 continues its momentum. To fix that wiper animation move the seat forward a little. Not sure why the Cup car suffers from this weird animation 🤔.

@-racingfan2014 2 года назад

Yes hope they add ffb for puddles in rf2.

@paulsmith2516 2 года назад

None of these sims can even hold a candle to GT7 in this particular regard. All of these have either rain on or rain off, no dynamism. GT7 has raised the bar to a whole new level with regards to in race weather. Not suggesting for a second that GT7 is a better SIM, but it's dynamic weather system is the new bar.

@nextgengaming7803 2 года назад

I gotta say I actually agree here. I've been doing the spa 1 hour race a bit, testing verious gt 3 cars and the rain it so good. The drying line rubbers in its so rewarding, but when it rains again, forget it lol. Its very good.

@uSACRIFICE 2 года назад

GT7’s dynamic weather system is just what Project Cars 2 already had and now AMS2 has upgraded (weather, no wet physics). Weather radar is the most ridiculous thing only an Asian could put in a racing game. Lol. None of these sims have rain on or off immediately. Wet tracks dry with time and weather. If it’s cold in ACC, water will stand longer than if it’s sunny and warm. Drive some sims first, then come up with an opinion 🤷‍♂️

@nextgengaming7803 2 года назад

@@uSACRIFICE it's absolutely nothing like project cars 2 so don't even bother talking that bollocks, I played project cars 2 to death, along with acc, and all the other sims on my pc, and none of them do rain anywhere near as good as gt 7 at all. if you pay close attention to why wet or dry happens so quick is because its scales to time, if a race is longer, the wet last longer, if its shorter it drys quicker, actually try paying attention before desperately trying to discredit gt7 rain

@uSACRIFICE 2 года назад

@@nextgengaming7803 aite fanboy, now I get it I should not go any further, because I am entering low IQ territory of GT fanboys right there. I will stick to realistic sims. Bye!

@jernhoeganonymous9816 2 года назад

Why? At best the experience of driving a racecar in the rain is very subjective and the realism is very questionable, your trying three different simulators and get three different experiences. And Who in their right mind and in a competitive car would choose to drive in the rain, when you have the choise to drive in the dry. Only drivers in a non competitive car, would choose to drive in the rain, due to the chance to gain positions is greater than the risk of poor result.