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Driving The Thameslink Simulator 

Geoff Marshall
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Govia Thameslink Railway (GTR) asked me a few weeks ago if I'd like to come and try out their simulators at Hornsey Depot, to which I of course said "Yes!".
Stopping off at Essex Road along the way for a last look of the tiles, I got to have a go on an Electrostar 377 Classroom style simulator, before heading up to the Siemens Traincare Facility (also based at Hornsey Depot) to try out the Class 700 simulator. Thanks to GTR for inviting me, and to Tim for being my instructor.

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@HalfBewolktBestondAl
@HalfBewolktBestondAl 4 года назад
Geoff: "Is it sad that I recognise it?" Tim: "Yeah.."
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 4 года назад
When you know it's Loogerberooger Junction, it *has* to be northbound because you've got tracks coming in from the left and right.
@Nico_boost
@Nico_boost 4 года назад
When did he say this?
@RyanHolliday211
@RyanHolliday211 4 года назад
@@Nico_boost about 7:00
4 года назад
@@Nico_boost 6:55
@gabrielbenjamin3171
@gabrielbenjamin3171 4 года назад
stevieinselby Loughborough * 😂
@DaWolf805
@DaWolf805 4 года назад
For anyone wondering what that 'big red button' - the DRA, does: It is basically an extra step you have to go through before getting the train moving again. Once pressed, it will light up red, and the throttle will not apply power. It was introduced because drivers would sometimes stop at stations, forget they had passed a yellow signal to enter the station, and inadvertently pass the red signal shortly after the station - or stop at a station with a red signal, and forget to check it before leaving. Now, because drivers must set the DRA in this situation, they have a big red reminder in their cab that they have a red signal ahead; and they must press it to move the train again, in the process noticing the reminder.
@NotDavidTrains
@NotDavidTrains 2 года назад
yeah we are not dumb we know what it is i guess you typed this for nothing.
@jpgamez8169
@jpgamez8169 Год назад
I’ll remember this while playing tsw3
@gobiwaq
@gobiwaq 4 года назад
I'm doing a drinking challenge on this channel. Every time Geoff doesn't let someone finish a sentence I down a shot. Gout is setting in
@ryxo2354
@ryxo2354 4 года назад
Should do the challenge on politic conversations with the news
@levigriffiths6942
@levigriffiths6942 4 года назад
hahahahaha thats the best thing ive ever read
@JulieWallis1963
@JulieWallis1963 4 года назад
David Rogers your _poor_ liver 😂🤪
@Stephen_Lafferty
@Stephen_Lafferty 4 года назад
It's great that you have a set of unreleased videos to draw on whilst we are all socially distancing in lockdown! Thank you for making these, Geoff!
@MeFreeBee
@MeFreeBee 4 года назад
In the 1980s I lived right above Essex Road station tracks - not that you'd know, it's very deep. My sister wouldn't use the station because the dark foot tunnels made her feel unsafe and indeed there was a nasty series of attacks down there. Being the 80s there was not much in the way of CCTV. Hope it is better now.
@Lewwytravels
@Lewwytravels 4 года назад
The dream school desk you never got... lmao
@RoamingAdhocrat
@RoamingAdhocrat 4 года назад
Tell you what - I'd love to see this simulator more in-depth - perhaps sitting in with actual trainees (anonymised or not) and learning alongside them.
@icklebean0365
@icklebean0365 4 года назад
Love the northern city line, NSE nostalgia is amazing!
@stefanocoppo3949
@stefanocoppo3949 4 года назад
And you HANDILY had a tile in your hand 😂
@matthewfield2958
@matthewfield2958 4 года назад
He stopped off at Topps Tiles beforehand.
@baruchpinnick811
@baruchpinnick811 4 года назад
Another good video, and nice to see Geoff explain why it's no picnic to be a train driver.
@BirbarianHomeGuard
@BirbarianHomeGuard 4 года назад
I love the sound of those Thameslink trains on third rail.
@BlaiddLlwyd
@BlaiddLlwyd 4 года назад
That looks like it would be really interesting to try out. A little more realistic than Train Simulator on my PC :)
@MrJimheeren
@MrJimheeren 3 года назад
Oh that’s a very German looking cab, it has BR422/425 vibes except for the large panels on the left side. TSW trained me for this moment
@matthewfield2958
@matthewfield2958 4 года назад
Reasons why Geoff is not a train driver: "Are the doors Still open?" "You're speeding at the moment. You're still speeding." "Is that the emergency brake?" "yes." "I didn't press the AWS button fast enough."
@ThatVoxelBlock
@ThatVoxelBlock 2 года назад
I’ve been on the class 700 training simulator around about the time your video of the class 700 was released
@Foxys-Collective-Videography
@Foxys-Collective-Videography 4 года назад
This looks like tremendous fun Geoff :-). Thanks for sharing this :-). Have a nice evening and take care of yourself Geoff :-D :-). From your friend Foxy :-).
@nanuJoe1967
@nanuJoe1967 4 года назад
Had a train on fire just outside my back garden today (class 465 to charing x) just thought of the pressure going through the drivers mind when that happened..saying it was a brake fault, but by the amount of emergency services and police parked up in my street with also police helicopter present makes me wonder if it was something else then a brake overheating.
@caw25sha
@caw25sha 4 года назад
I was once on a train that had an electrical fire! The driver announced that "due to a fault on the train we will be terminating here." I got off, saw the smoke and thought "yep, there's a fault on the train."
@josephlee5294
@josephlee5294 4 года назад
Focus Geoff, focus buddy!
@raphaelnikolaus0486
@raphaelnikolaus0486 4 года назад
I think the old tiles should be preserved: some displayed in the LTM, and a whole bunch stocked in their Acton Depot.
@raphaelnikolaus0486
@raphaelnikolaus0486 4 года назад
Actually, a whole part of the wall (design) should be displayed in the LTM.
@diogotavares2705
@diogotavares2705 4 года назад
For when the secrets of the Thameslink, Southern and Great Northern franchise?
@keith800
@keith800 4 года назад
I think its the Network south east side of Essex road station that makes it look dingy (that weathered maroon colour ) rather than the tiles they are replacing .
@joffdorling3562
@joffdorling3562 4 года назад
Great video mate I really like watching your videos there really cool 😊👍
@zork999
@zork999 4 года назад
I heard "Hornsey Depot" and my first thought was "Is it OO gauge?"
@JulieWallis1963
@JulieWallis1963 4 года назад
Scott Taylor hehe, very witty, but I think you need to be a certain age to _get_ this. Do little boys still play with train sets?
@zork999
@zork999 4 года назад
@@JulieWallis1963 Well, since I have boxes of 1970-1980 era Horby British Rail and GWR OO Gauge trains boxed up in my storage unit...
@Basset86Trains09
@Basset86Trains09 3 года назад
It would be nice to see Geoff in the GBRF 66 simulator, or the Cross Country 220/221 simulators.
@HSMiyamoto
@HSMiyamoto 4 года назад
In Sacramento at the California State Railroad Museum, there is a genuine Japanese Shinkansen simulator. Anyone can use it for the price of admission.
@carolinegreenwell9086
@carolinegreenwell9086 4 года назад
I always wondered what was in that new building I pass on the way to the recycling depot. Now I know.
@20quid
@20quid 4 года назад
We need to crowdfund to get Geoff one of these for his kitchen.
@Calum_S
@Calum_S 4 года назад
Will Essex Road just be dingy on one side of the tracks with shiny new platforms?
@gymnasiast90
@gymnasiast90 4 года назад
I fear it will be, if GTR indeed cannot touch Network Rail's side. Unless Network Rail had their own plans to do some cleaning.
@deathbyteacup
@deathbyteacup 4 года назад
I dunno why but I had a real sense of dejavu at the start of this video.
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials
@wclifton968gameplaystutorials 4 года назад
so is this MSTS, Railworks (Train Simulator), OpenBVE/BVE4, TSW or some proprietory software?
@tonytan8721
@tonytan8721 4 года назад
The graphic looks like from early 2000 so I guess bve or msts
@nigelkthomas9501
@nigelkthomas9501 4 года назад
What did we do before we had simulators like this? Train on the real thing I guess.
@aviewfromtheinterior
@aviewfromtheinterior 4 года назад
I simultaneously love and hate Essex Road, it’s both beautiful and ugly.
@MikeWillSee
@MikeWillSee 4 года назад
Wow someone with the same name 😳
@danielboulton98
@danielboulton98 4 года назад
Gotta love Essex road
@OffTheRailsUK
@OffTheRailsUK 3 года назад
Haha Geoff, I would've gotten a 9 or 10!
@thomasm1964
@thomasm1964 4 года назад
So the drivers are only being retained until the automatic system can be rolled out all across the system ....
@Paco_Gaepedores
@Paco_Gaepedores Месяц назад
Absolutely Incredible video woohoo ❤
@thespicyicecubexd_8932
@thespicyicecubexd_8932 4 года назад
How much for the set up?
@MNalias
@MNalias 4 года назад
They should make a Densha De D, simulator.
@iamcholgabolga
@iamcholgabolga 2 года назад
1:25 But tiles....old ones are going new ones are coming. He sound terrified when he said that lol
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 4 года назад
Gutted it didn't go via Corrour....
@Scwirul
@Scwirul 4 года назад
@NirateGoel
@NirateGoel 4 года назад
Did they have any simualted accidents on the line? The one time I tried a simulator (NIR C3/4K) I was instructed to ignore the car crash on the line off the bridge and kep going pretending I didn't see it.
@andrewholloway231
@andrewholloway231 4 года назад
This is brilliant.
@stefanocoppo3949
@stefanocoppo3949 4 года назад
Geoff I personally think all the gtr stations need refurbishment. They are so shabby and they have really nice trains... What do you think? Hi from 🇮🇹 italy
@pavelsbogdanovs7676
@pavelsbogdanovs7676 4 года назад
When are they removing the Tiles.
@MPSpecial
@MPSpecial 4 года назад
Pulling to accelerate and pushing to brake, isn't that counterintuitive?
@peteru18
@peteru18 4 года назад
It may look like it, but at the end of the day it's a safety procedure (if you pass out over the controller, you're more likely to push it forwards to brake I dare say). Can't speak for the UK, but the entirety of Japanese one-handle-controller rolling stock is set as throttle back/brake forwards (look at for example channel called のっぺらぼう, he has a lot of cab view videos that show the controller).
@peebee143
@peebee143 4 года назад
It is a lot like driving a car, but in a different way. A lot of it does become like reflex action, driver observation also plays a big part.
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 4 года назад
It's like driving a car in the sense that you move forwards for a time and then stop. In all other respects is almost entirely different. Perhaps the biggest difference is that a train has only one degree of freedom. It's totally constrained by the rails. I could say that it's a lot like flying an aeroplane, in the sense that you have a seat and a window and a set of controls and it takes you from one location to another and you need to stay alert and it's difficult and stressful when you're a beginner but with practice a lot of it becomes second nature.
@londonbuses2937
@londonbuses2937 4 года назад
I've done that have you met patrick
@davidau8455
@davidau8455 4 года назад
I always watch every video, and appreciate your work. It was disappointing that you treated the whole simulator experience as one big joke instead of taking the opportunity seriously.
@anniesoernym
@anniesoernym 4 года назад
I don't think he treated it as a joke. I think he was having a great bit of fun. Maybe his enthusiasm shows different to how your's does. Also, he's not training to become an actual train driver, so was completely free to simply enjoy a fun day out.
@ltv_2005
@ltv_2005 4 года назад
The northern city line needs investing
@bfapple
@bfapple 4 года назад
Is new trains not enough for you?
@ltv_2005
@ltv_2005 4 года назад
@@bfapple GTR need to invest in refurbishing stations
@kk-transport
@kk-transport 4 года назад
Someone's learning
@eddiestuart3898
@eddiestuart3898 4 года назад
Seriously jealous...!!! :-)
@Shads5
@Shads5 6 месяцев назад
I heard there may have been some wrestling on this show tonight. Can anyone confirm?
@harleyreynolds6783
@harleyreynolds6783 4 года назад
We're abouts is that
@simonkirkbright5197
@simonkirkbright5197 4 года назад
Excited much?
@jordanmcnamara7888
@jordanmcnamara7888 4 года назад
Be Even better if he stopped interrupting Tim and tell him what to do....
@lachlantanseytheii4412
@lachlantanseytheii4412 3 года назад
a aa aaaa AAAAAAAA AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH I’m jealous
@jonny-simulation-gamer
@jonny-simulation-gamer 3 года назад
Guys if you think that driving a train is easy then go drive a train in tsw2 with all sayftey devices and hud off then come back
@noooobozy8129
@noooobozy8129 4 года назад
You already have so many comments
@broadway254
@broadway254 4 года назад
Shame there wasn't a clip of you flying down the tracks at full speed, ignoring the procedures.
@doristheslug9609
@doristheslug9609 4 года назад
36c ountede mm yself
@owenbuddery3441
@owenbuddery3441 3 года назад
The train services will be under Public ownership by 2021 all train services for London & the southeast which will be under Control of Network Southeast intercity train services will be under control of Intercity Rural & regional services will be under control of Regional Railways For you to do Geoff I will elect you on behalf of the British Rail Party as the Chancellor so your role will be to invest £4 million on all 3 businesses to show To work alongside The English Conservative Party the Scottish National Party & the Welsh Labour Party to make Dicetions
@RogueBrit
@RogueBrit 3 года назад
Terrible......
@Quasihamster
@Quasihamster 4 года назад
"...so I still have to press the AWS then..." "...you're speeding." "can I just coast?" "You're still speeding."
@InterJon1
@InterJon1 4 года назад
8/10
@connectingwings7212
@connectingwings7212 4 года назад
In Germany the train would get an E-Brake application the moment you start to exceed the speed limit (and don't brake in like 3 seconds)
@xinotron
@xinotron 4 года назад
@@connectingwings7212 are you sure about that?
@xinotron
@xinotron 4 года назад
@@troo_story so I want him to explain, in which case that would happen : )
@connectingwings7212
@connectingwings7212 4 года назад
@@xinotron Actually not a 100% but fairly sure. I suppose you are a German traindriver or so that you can clear me and these commentators up if that's wrong 🙃 - I'm always open for learning new stuff 😉
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 4 года назад
Essex Road feels like an abandoned Tube station until you see the Great Northern train. It's weird
@jussidjachenko9483
@jussidjachenko9483 4 года назад
Technically it is an abandoned tube station heheh
@Blocky7676
@Blocky7676 Год назад
@@jussidjachenko9483 wdym
@Spacebug111
@Spacebug111 Год назад
@@Blocky7676it used to be a tube station
@wta1518
@wta1518 7 месяцев назад
@@jussidjachenko9483 It's a former chewb station, not an abandoned one.
@tinyupes
@tinyupes 4 года назад
Essex Road: The Land that Time Forgot Sounds like a good title for a new book...
@Mirandorl
@Mirandorl 3 года назад
Tim: Student Grade - Fail. Doesn't let instructor finish Geoff: SENTENCES
@Mattwatts181
@Mattwatts181 4 года назад
“I was told not to press big red buttons” 😂😂😂
@coreystrainsaviation4556
@coreystrainsaviation4556 3 года назад
Amazing 😂
@TPhype-Discovery
@TPhype-Discovery 4 года назад
I like how The stations on the Northern City line look like the underground tube stations.
@ErkkiMattila
@ErkkiMattila 4 года назад
They look, because they were.
@KenLane1
@KenLane1 4 года назад
All the stations on the Great Northern route from Moorgate to Drayton Park were all a separate branch of the Northern Line until the electrification of the suburban routes from Kings Cross in the mid 70's when a link was constructed between Drayton Park and Finsbury Park allowing through trains from Moorgate to Welwyn Garden City and Hertford North. The line from Moorgate to Drayton Park remains third rail DC but is overhead AC from there. This means that there is a short delay at Drayton Park whilst the change over is made.
@ianmcclavin
@ianmcclavin 4 года назад
Yes I was old enough to have a couple of rides on the 1938 Stock that used to operate the Drayton Park to Moorgate section just before the transfer to Britidh Rail in the mid-seventies. (I'm not old enough to remember running into Finsbury Park low level, (now the Southbound Piccadilly and Victoria lines) as that closed when I was 1 year old!!)
@LukeAlfordUKsteam
@LukeAlfordUKsteam 4 года назад
Mum: You need to go to bed now Me: but Geoff Marshall uploaded Mum: Oh Ok Edit: This conversation actually happened!
@lankyafrican6970
@lankyafrican6970 4 года назад
Good to know
@tobyfarman
@tobyfarman 4 года назад
You go to bed at 8
@LukeAlfordUKsteam
@LukeAlfordUKsteam 4 года назад
@@tobyfarman No I found out that Geoff had uploaded when I needed to go to bed. Not this video last video.
@robertpower8828
@robertpower8828 4 года назад
Had this before as well 😂
@ZephenHD
@ZephenHD 4 года назад
It's 8PM....
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 4 года назад
It's a shame that the simulator doesn't use collimated display systems like those used in commercial aircraft simulators. The experience is completely different from looking at a screen. It brings a whole new level of realism.
@EuanBCFC
@EuanBCFC 4 года назад
Essex Road genuinely looks like it’s stuck about 30 years in the past
@Nimmo1492
@Nimmo1492 4 года назад
As someone who loves Train Simulator and TSW, I desperately want to have a go of this.
@ianmcclavin
@ianmcclavin 4 года назад
I went through Essex Road a few days before the lockdown took effect, and sure enough all the tiles had been removed, so the platforms there looked even more "dingy!!" I don't know how far they've progressed with putting the replacements up; I wouldn't have thought it was high on their list of priorities at the moment.
@nouram4299
@nouram4299 4 года назад
Essex road is my local train station and I had to wait to get served as the ticket officer was buying weed of a guy😂🤣
@RoamingAdhocrat
@RoamingAdhocrat 4 года назад
Just needs SimSig integration.
@alfiewhittaker3763
@alfiewhittaker3763 4 года назад
@networkrail at essex road please keep the NSE as a subtle nod to the past
@RealCadde
@RealCadde 4 года назад
It's a shame there's not more footage of this. Especially the simulator bits. I would have loved to see you actually driving the train for a full route with stops and time tables and issues.
@MichaelSebastianTodd
@MichaelSebastianTodd 4 года назад
ill need to see essex road and the other nse underground station after the restrictions have been lifted
@WaylandJoe
@WaylandJoe 4 года назад
I once had the opportunity to drive an Class 08 Shunter on the Forest of Dean railway. I can remember the intense concentration as I listened to the instructions. Being told to take up to notch 2, but keep the speed at about 10mph, she could do 15, but I might cause the generator to flash over. And to look back occasionally to check on the train and to keep the speed in check as we went around the curve, as she tends to rally. Even though, it was only for a short trip, got a taste of what it must be like for the professional drivers.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 4 года назад
Wow, they've still got Network South East branding 😮
@darcyfoster6298
@darcyfoster6298 4 года назад
stevieinselby - IIRC, Downham Market still has them as well.
@gabri_maybe
@gabri_maybe 4 года назад
@@darcyfoster6298 but they aren't original,are they?
@jayzo
@jayzo 4 года назад
I'm curious to know if they use customized off the shelf train simulators like the one Dovetail makes (albeit with modifications to allow them to configure the scenarios and to support the custom control systems), or if it's 100% bespoke.
@TuckertonRR
@TuckertonRR 4 года назад
The video / software system is probably a tweaked version of various "professional" simulator programs. (ie; for air pilots as well, etc) Tweaked to be able to input the physical characteristics of the line/equipment in use. The actual mock up is probably a real mock up with the actual screens & controls on the real equipment, tied into the software program. Hope that makes sense.
@alexcollins7937
@alexcollins7937 4 года назад
Its uses ts2020 as base layer but is heavily modified for there use to allow for realism and the cabs are proper mock ups off the real trains
@tbrooke3016
@tbrooke3016 4 года назад
The lighting when he's on the platform makes it look like he's on a green screen. Even the lighting there is a little weird never mind the tiles
@subwayexpress465
@subwayexpress465 4 года назад
Poor old 365s sitting in the depot unused
@SkeletonSyskey
@SkeletonSyskey 4 года назад
Essex Road gives me Network SouthEast Flashbacks!
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath 4 года назад
Electrostar? Surely Desiro would be more relevant at Hornsey? \m/
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 4 года назад
Hornsey still has the 387s to be fair, I don’t know whether the 377 simulator can also be used for 387s too or not. Even then they may carry out training for the Southern/GX side of GTR, I can’t remember whether that’s the case
@kelvinchan7532
@kelvinchan7532 4 года назад
That's amazing! I would like to have a try on that simulator too!
@subwayexpress465
@subwayexpress465 4 года назад
Will the new Essex Road station tiles be in the same shapes?
@alexlangford6291
@alexlangford6291 9 месяцев назад
People complaining about train drivers strike and saying you dont need drivers just to press a button should watch this video, kt proves that even on an automatic railway you still need drivers.
@LONDON_Buses104
@LONDON_Buses104 3 года назад
The Great Northern Railway Goes to Essex Road as well!
@MatthewK421
@MatthewK421 4 года назад
377999? Seems interesting.
@DavidShepheard
@DavidShepheard 4 года назад
It's weird to see Geoff doing a handshake (and not even his standard left-handed handshake) at the end of the video. I wonder what he will be doing, instead of shaking hands, after the lockdown ends.
@PaulfromChicago
@PaulfromChicago 4 года назад
I'm a little surprised this doesn't get rented out for parties. People would pay money to do this
@cian392
@cian392 2 года назад
one thing i can’t get over is how geoff pronounces it sim-ul-ator
@SWTransport
@SWTransport 4 года назад
Great Video! Looks very realistic. Wish I could use one of those one day
@Lxmix336
@Lxmix336 2 года назад
Sounds hard!
@SeanDuffyProductions
@SeanDuffyProductions 4 года назад
I want a go in that!
@copilotconrad
@copilotconrad 4 года назад
I bet you were hired by NR to promote Essex Road as being the new star station in the whole of London
@Basset86Trains09
@Basset86Trains09 3 года назад
Maybe he did
@SamSitar
@SamSitar 4 года назад
that simulator is complicated.
@jamieplaysagamie
@jamieplaysagamie 4 года назад
How can I get my go? 😂
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