For anyone wondering about the background noise issue on this vid, there was some weird interaction with a particular DAC/amp I was using at the time that caused this. As soon as I removed it, the issue went away. Just bad luck that I happened to have it on while recording this video. Also, the pop filter doesn't come with this headphone.
I think something important to note for a headphone/headset of this type, and especially in this price bracket, is amplification - this thing isn't designed to need or benefit much from an amp, unlike the 58X, 6XX or some of the planar options at this price point. While on their own, they may be similar in price, if you were comparing the 38X vs a 6XX with even something like a Zen DAC combo unit, you're really comparing $170 to something closer to a $400 package (or 450 with a mic on top), and the kind of person that's usually going to be looking for a headSET is rarely interested in stepping up that far in budget, or informed enough to know to add that pinch of salt. Did enjoy the review though, great work as always! Just think amplification is an important talking point you shouldn't forget when talking about products like these. Oh, another thing I'd be curious to hear this compared to is the TYGR 300R since they're targeting a very similar market segment (just without the mic, in that case).
Is there no noticeable difference? I bought this headset and the sennheiser gsx 1000 amp but he plays on ps5 and Im on PC, so I feel a bit of a disconnect in terms of control and capability. Anything helps and is appreciated.
I love mine, and with the low impedance, they work wonderfully straight out of the PS5 Dualsense controller. It's also worth noting that these do come with two cables and two sets of pads.
@@tylerstravis thanks for the reply, been watching reviews on these for the past few days and the biggest complaints I've seen are the comfort. So I think I'm gonna try then out and hopefully they're fine, will definitely be an upgrade from my $60 turtle beaches lol.
I've been using the PC28X for a month already and I'm fully happy with my purchase as a gaming headset. The fit was a little clampy out of the box but quickly broke in after 2-3 days.
slight correction here, since i know its easily missed by someone who is an audiophile and likely have several good amps and dacs laying around lol, the pc38x is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than the other higher end sennheiser options like the 6xx. the pc38x has very low ohms, you can plug it straight into your controller or pc and itll perform at full capacity. if you try the same thing with a 6xx, u essentially are nerfing the headset making it sound worse, as its ohms are around 300 compared to the pc38x's 38 ohms. so while yes u could spend the extra 50 bucks or whatever it is on a better headphone like the 6xx, the reality is u will be spending several hundred more than that on amps, dacs, and a mic on top of that. the 6xx for gaming is essentially and realistically closer to a 400-500 dollar headphone for someone who is just getting into real headphones instead of the 40 dollar walmart ones. the pc38x on the other hand is a real headphone that is truly only 160 or so dollars, no amps or dacs or modmics needed lol. that being said, if ur playing on PC and ur motherboard is a budget board and doesnt have upgraded audio, you will need a dac anyways, so... there are several factors that play into which headset is a better investment. 90% of people will find the pc38x as one of the best options available. THE best option available by far if u only buy sennheiser and are on a budget. now if you already have an amp and dac, and dont mind spending the extra 100 dollars for the headphone itself AND a modmic; the 6xx is indeed a better headphone. well i only just now realized this video is 2 years old so im kinda embarrassed now lol ...
I installed a pair of 3rd party earpads to replace what came with my PC38x headset because the pads that came with them (both pairs) had a somewhat small ear space (depth was fine though). I also placed them over a box overnight to stretch out the band a bit to lessen the clamping force. I was upgrading from my venerable SPH9500 headphones which were still an enjoyable experience for music but not the best for gaming. I've not tried many other headphones/headsets so I can't do much of a comparative analysis, but I'm extremely pleased with the gaming experience using the PC38x headset. I can't imagine finding a better headset for both music and gaming in this price range.
I love these headphones over any other headphone I have. While they all have different sound signatures these are for sure my go to headphones especially for gaming, although they are good for music as well. For reference I have the DT 770, 880, HE 400i, and Sundaras. What is the closest non-gaming headset to this one? I ask because I'd like to wear these out in public but it's a little crazy with the mic. All of your criticisms are totally fair. I agree with the imaging, clamp force, etc.
I had the a much better experience with my unit for positional audio. I feel like everywhere I heard and expected people to be, they were exactly there. Bring up 8k on Realtek helped a bit more to hear reloads and shuffling better. Overall this is probably the best all in one headset I think I've tried. For FPS the Cloud Alpha comes in close second, only because 1) there is echo problems and AEC causes the mic to fall right below audible in critical scenarios. 2) Busy comms get very cluttered quickly with the Alpha where they stay quite separate from game audio on the PC38x. I got mine for $125 after tax and I think that is a good price. I think few "gaming headsets" perform at their price point. I'd catch them on sale.
First, this is an absolutely fantastic review -- puts most YT audio reviewers literally to shame, and that includes some of the really big ones. Second, someone said that he'd have a hard time *not* recommending these headphones as an audiophile, music-listening solution, at least in their price-point. Is that hyperbole? I mean it's still a gaming headset: Do people really buy this for music?
have a Sennheiser PC38X. I have it hooked up to a UGREEN USB-C to 3,5mm jack. It sounds fine, but it doesn't get very loud. I want to add more volume to my headphones and use Dolby Atmos. I'd imagine that this will be more than adequate to give me more volume given the very low impediance (32 ohms) of my PC38X.
@@ANG3LS21 just the Headset and no Amp/Dac , it sounds good , i can hear the positional foot steps on Low boost ingame sound. But a lot better with DTS spatial sound on windows.
I didn't know you played competitive games. I'd love to see some recommendations at different price brackets for what you think the best competitive gaming headphone is.
My experience with Sennheiser G4me Ones is close to what you have described in the review (I still own it and use it daily). For music, HD650/6XX is a tier above for sure. I also found that although it's marketed as a gaming headset, strangely, the ability to accurately determine precise direction in game via sound cues is much more difficult than the HyperX Revolver and HyperX Cloud Mix. The sound quality of the mic on this line of headsets are fantastic, but the swivel to mute feature died a year into use for me. I can still feel and hear the "click" when the mic triggers the point to mute, but it will not mute anymore...
They deliver to France. You can bought them on amazon.com for ~200€ including import fees, or directly on drop but you'll have to pay ~40-50 import fees.
Very interesting. And it echo's Crinacles' review. I hope you do more low end headphone/headset reviews. ie Arctis Pro / Cloud II Wireless / MH751's. Same thing with the chi-fi IEMs. I understand it's probably more interesting for you guys as addic.. hobbyists to review the expensive high end stuff, but I think you'd probably get a fairly large influx of new viewers who could then springboard into the other stuff. *cough* get sucked into the endless void which is this hobby *cough*
It actually comes with two different cables. One is a shorter cable better suited for portable devices, and the other is the longer one you showed here.
I have both, Tygr300s really sound like you are in a room with speakers like DMS said. 38x's smaller stage, decent imaging and more Bass. But not very comfortable. Takes a while to break them in also.
@@oldandslow8994 I do as well and I always find myself wearing the 38x more. Tygr is by far the most comfortable. But for gaming, I have a better experience with positional accuracy (Direction and Distance) with the 38x. When I go back to Tygr, its a learning curve and I struggle.
@@oldandslow8994 on my country pc38x cost 135$ and tygr cost 225$ do you think tygr is worth extra 90$ over pc38x ? i will be using it for music more than gaming
@@oldandslow8994 i like pop music. and i never had any headphone beside dt 990 pro 250ohm which is v shaped so i never experienced any other type. and I'm more into punchy bass headphone
I wonder if Drop has consistency issues with these. You and Crinacle both found its positional imaging really mediocre, while Zeos, DMS, and Josh all consider it the pinnacle of headphones for gaming.
To be fair imaging is influenced highly by the size and shape of your ears. Best way to judge imaging is to average what reviewers say. Cos unlike with frequency response measurements where we can measure with an averaged fake ear, predicting imaging from measurements isn't so easy. So all imaging judgements are rather subjective based on our own ears. At least that's how I understand it.
Or maybe they got paid to overhype the headphones. All 3 of them got their pair from drop. It's all about making money on RU-vid through sponsorships. Unfortunately, money makes most people compromise their integrity. The best advice is to try it out yourself.
This isn't discussed enough to me and i have tried over 20 different types of headphones, gaming and HiFi. From DT1990s price point and down. IMO gaming headphones are not 1 headphone for all games type of situation. It all depends on what game and how the sound design was intended. For people who just play FPS like CS or Valorant definitely go for Imaging 1st then sound stage. Then there are games you just want atmosphere and deep bass with crisp highs. So you would choose something more punchy maybe closed back. Is the game open world? Or is the game in doors. Then i would choose either open back or closed depending on the environment. I have spent a lot of $$$ trying to find the perfect pair and Dac combo and have realized that there isn't one size fits all.
Agree. I have a pair of focal clear and drop he4xx. When I got the focal I was going to sell the hifiman until I played videogames with them. With the clears and valorant I'm able to hear footsteps of the enemies around corners and I know exactly what corner they are coming from. But I can't tell how far are them. They sound too close. This is an advantage on competitive gaming but it ruins the immersion of single player games. My character footsteps are right in my ears, the wind is too loud, the crickets are too loud, everything is on your face, there is no deepness. And the same happens on movies, the voices of people sound weird, like they were recorded with cheap mics. While with the he4xx I can't tell exactly where the footsteps are coming from, but I feel more immerse, and its bass adds to that sensation. What would you recommend for immersive gaming out of all the headphones you have listened to? I'm looking to upgrade my hifimans for gaming only
@@juanp756 Sorry for the wall of text, but really need you to see my journey so you don't waste money. Looks like you already have a really good setup for Music. I have really been on hunt lately for a really good THX kick in pants sound. Like you get from the Theater or a good home surround system. Something with a lot of punch and crunch. Also enveloping at the same time. Maybe I am missing the movie theaters. I went through my stage of trying to find the best imaging and micro detail kick for music but it wasn't translating to gaming. Not much atmosphere. Like you said crickets in your face. I was really apprehensive to try a gaming headphones coming from HIFI Sundaras/1990s. I guess you could say I was a HiFi snob. LOL. Then i asked myself how do you know what they are hearing and who I was to judge when I haven't even heard their setups. So the expensive journey began with a lot of returns to come. To try and not go into to much detail. I am currently outputting the 5.1 off a G6 into a Astro Mixamp pro for pc with the Dolby enabled. The mixamp also allows me to get the 5.1 off the PS5 with an in line hdmi to optical convertor. I also run the optical from my LG CX. I then have been using the Tygr300, 38x, Dt770s, HD58x. all with good results. Movies off the TV are really good. This is also with messing with a good EQ setting on the Mixamp though. Only issue is Mixamp doesn't have much power. Your HE4xx are a very fun sounding headphone and I might have to give them ago soon. Sorry for being long winded.
@@oldandslow8994 thanks, I have been trying dolby atmos on windows and it did improved the experience, even if the games aren't mixed with it. I guess the astro do something like that but with eq.
Thanks - really informative. I fell into this channel on Friday, and whilst I've requirements that a slightly different to maybe most of your audience, it's been really interesting to go through your content. Sadly, in the UK this headset (and the 37X) are pretty difficult to source! Have you any recommendations for the UK market, or indication that this headset might have a planned mainstream availability?
I wouldn't worry about durability with these. HD 500 series chassis and variants like this are as tough as it gets. I got a Game One and Zero here both have been abused, slammed into the desk in gamer rage, dropped on the floor etc for years no issues. And yeah the comfort does break in over time quite well. I used to get annoyed at gaming headsets musical performance. These days I start to wonder if gaming performance and music performance might be diametrically opposed, at least for shooters. I used to find the Game One good for gaming and too strident for music. Another example, take the DT 1990 and the HD650. Guess which one I reach for for shooters and which ones for music. Its not even close. FYI you got some noise in this video at about 5.5kHz sounds like electronic interference. Had to do an EQ sweep to hear it after reading comments. I had this before but at 10kHz was a noisy switching power supply. Keeping cables away from power and getting a good quality Mogami / Van Damme starquad XLR cable helps. Dynamic mics seem more susceptible to interference than condensers ime. Hmm this comment is starting to look like an essay... Hi, Resolve! :D
Hiiiii. Yeah the issue was some DAC/amp I was using at the time. It caused interference. I had to do a lot of filtering even just to get it to where it is now - it was most audible at 10khz, but I dropped that with a parametric EQ.
The TYGR 300R continues to impress me with it's excellent gaming performance and music performance. It's not a flagship music headphone, but for the price and ability to do both, it's one of the best in my opinion. Sub-bass is lacking ands can benefit from a bit of EQ boost for music, but imaging, sound stage, detail, and resolve for it's price is excellent compared to other options in this price point.
@@jasonfranciosa Beyer need to make the TYGR 300R available in general markets without the Fox Mic. At least here in the UK the only way to buy them without the mic is direct from Beyer and now thanks to Brexit, Beyer wont ship to the UK :( The headphone thats doing it for me right now as an allrounder is the HD560S, its a jack of all trades master of none kinda thing. Really wanna try the TYGR tho.
@@WheezyTech The HD560s is great. I had it for a little while. The tuning of the 560s is superior in my opinion, as are the mids without EQ, but the imaging, sound stage, comfort, and detail I find the TYGR to be a bit better. Both are wonderful all-a-rounders. My biggest complaint with the TYGR is the bass bump and sub-bass roll off. If they shifted that bump down by like 100hz so it had a sub-bass boost and the bass bump started a bit lower, it would be nearly perfect. From my understanding, the TYGR 300R is the DT990 driver that has been retuned to get rid of the piercing highs of the 990.
1:32 This kinda model's can stand for at least +8 years dude :D I have still my PC 363D, same "plastic core". Just ordered this though, going to save the PC 363D for spare :P Cheers
I've been using the 6XX's for gaming for a long time, and yeah you just kinda adapt to what you're used to. You mentioned how hearing where things are in front of you might be important, but for me I find it to be the least important. I can see things in front of me, so when I hear something that I don't see I know it's to my side or behind me.
You don’t see enemy in front when there is something between you. 6xx are imo one of the worst for gaming and I tried many many headphones. But of course when you’re used to something, you don’t know it’s bad unless you compare with something better
I was thinking about getting HD560s to use with my modmic wireless or getting these for the convenience factor. Went for HD560s and now, thanks to you, I know it was the right choice, especially since treble doesn't bother me at all. It's a great replacement for my HD660s, which is great when pads are new, but loses all the detail advantages and gets bloated bass once pads get old. For my my use new pads don't even last 4 month, which makes keeping the pads new waaay too expensive, so I genuinely think that 560s is better than the HD600 line
I agree with 660s longavity issue. If you use them a lot you need to buy new pads regularly and new pads cost like 40€+, also cups have squeeking issue after some time. But I still think they’re worth it and I don’t like 560s.
@@atyne_mar for me, after using 660 for 2 years and getting 560 - at first 560 sounded less full and came out quite tiny, after a couple of days of switching between the two - my 660(probably would be different on new pads) sounds like it has more bass, less highs, less detail, more forward mids, more condensed soundstage. After a week of comparing - I prefer 560s on most songs, but on some I prefer 660. The issue is that with worn pads some songs just sound bad on 660, while everything sounds good and realistic on 560. So at first I didn't like 560 either, but I think it was because I was too used to 660 sound.
I see you have the Cayin HA1A mk2 on the shelf behind you on your right. Its featured in the intros of some of your vids, for the love of god, please do a review of it.
Any way you could do a brief overview of gaming performance in future headphone reviews? I understand if it takes too much time to play games enough to get a good idea
Can I ask - do you actually enjoy the harman Target yourself as an audiophile? _ as opposed to other shifts in frequency response. Bluntly - what is your actual ultimate preference? Seems Harman is just everywhere - and i know its supposed to be some magical consumer populist response - but for you, as somone who is actually more acquainted with high end audio gear and as a result, im assuming someone who has a specific taste in headphone frequency response - Whats your preference?
On console, the volume knob on this is a godsend if you don't happen to have an amp by the tv. It's super convenient. For a potential 39x version, I wish for two things: 1) Removable mic. 2) Improved comfort.
How would these compare to the seinheiser hd560s? I'm trying to decide what headsets I want. I don't want a dedicated mic. I'm looking for a headset that you can either attach a mic to it or comes with. I also need to figure out what dac amp to use. I'm coming from hyper x clouds lol
These are below average for comfort for me. Pads are on the hard side. Combined with the clamp, comfort is not the best. KSC75 with headband mod = comfort kings for me.
@@brianm2850 that’s weird how for you they are not comfortable but for me the most comfortable headphones I’ve ever had for gaming. I also have the Sony Pulse which I couldn’t stand for longer then 15 min others said they were very comfortable.
@@Oilerrocker yeah, comfort is a very subjective thing. I got use to the PC38X, but for me they just aren't top tier comfort for my head. I'm using it's cousin the HD 560s right now and I think the comfort is vastly better. I don't really buy headsets anymore, but I was always curious about the comfort of the MH751. Say what you want about Z Reviews, but his takes on build and comfort are pretty solid and he goes into good detail on those aspects of headphones in his reviews. He said those are "Comfort Kings".🤷♂️ I'm saving up for an used HD 800, so no more hp purchases untill then.
Any thoughts on the best setup for a ps5? Have wired Astro’s/mix amp but have to use their splitter and lose out on getting the full use of my monitor. I don’t mind having dedicated headphones and mic separate. I get a little lost on what setups work best!
@@ResolveReviews thanks, I watched it. His unit was defective however which invalidates his review. If you scroll down and read the comments on his video, as well as the Head Fi thread, you will see people commenting that their experience of it is literally polar opposite of what Max is saying.
@@phetmoz if it actually is defective that's an issue, but I gotta be honest, I trust his opinion over folks on head-fi generally, even though I do also have differing opinions from him at times as well. The main thing we can rely on him for is that he's not at all persuaded by price or purchase justification, which is unfortunately a major issue in forum threads in general.
@@ResolveReviews yeah I hear you. But it is very suspect that people are reporting that their experience is absolutely opposite of his - particularly in sound stage. Max described it as shockingly narrow, basically mono. Other people, actually most, are saying it's just a hair behind the Sundara in terms of width. Something fishy is going on. I think it deserves a review by you :)
you said these werent the best for spacial / positional awareness in gaming, and that other headsets did the job better. can you quickly list what you think would be better options for gamers in this genre?
Can i use this to listen to music?, i'm looking for a gaming headphone that i can use for both gaming and listening to music, currently using my sony xm4 for gaming
as a headset, especially as a work headset, i love the 38x specifically for the volume control. it's essential, when different callers have different gains on their respective phones/headsets/mics. i will agree to disliking being a bumble bee tho. and i don't feel the 38x are substantially better for gaming than my focal clears.
@@Nonx47 it's incredibly unfair a comparison to make, between a "gaming" headset and what would be an endgame headphone for many. But it's not a compliment to the 38X. for a headset marketed towards gaming, i practically only use it for business. the comfort isn't there, and the imaging+staging is great, but not good enough for me to overlook the discomfort over time.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow would the 560, pc37x or pc38x be better than 598 se? I have been using the 598 se for the past like 9 years every day 8 hours a day. I was thinking about getting a dedicated headset for gaming. I ordered the cloud 2 because the got good reviews saying they have good audio, but they sound awful compared to the 598. I am going to return them, so I need something else. Thanks for the help.
Still can't decide between PC38X and TYGR 300R for PS5 gaming (mostly single player games). I have an DT 1990 which I love for my PC setup, so I don't think I'll be lost with the TYGR 300R but it could be interesting to try a different pair of headphones. What do you think ? I'll be using them directly from the PS5 controller.
My PC38X does not get loud enough when plugged directly into my pc. Yes, all of my volume settings in Windows is at 100% as is RU-vid, Discord, Apple Music, and game settings. Any ideas on how to fix, short of buying a separate amp?
If it doesn't get louder enough for you, then yeah you need an AMP. Would love to help recommending one, but I haven't researched anything on Amps and their qualities for price etc...
@@storage-space4927 I'm hoping I can save up for a easy to drive sub 1000 headphone as a jump from my entry level gears. Used focal clear, lcd gx and Ananda are on the top of the list at the moment. Not sure when I'll save up enough though.. 😅 Congrats on such terrific deal! ❤️
@@prabinpaudel5572 definitely check eBay! Worlds best headphones is an authorized dealer so you get new b stock headphones for a good price and full warranty! I sold many of my mid tier headphones and had some money saved up to get the GX and definitely worth it. But again this is very subjective and if you can try a pair out check them out.
@@storage-space4927 That's the problem I live in Nepal. Hope you've heard of the country. There's no chance of demo. Or even return stuff. Directly buying from abroad will break my back with taxes and tarrifs. I have to make my relatives in USA or Aus buy stuff for me and wait for them bring it along. So I try to buy stuff with least negative reviews. 😅 After buying some entry level gear I know the kind of tonality I wish my headphone to have. Gx seems close to the target. ☺
@@prabinpaudel5572 ouch :( I have definitely heard of Nepal and I am sorry I didn’t even give a thought to were you lived. Not sure about your traveling situation and also with Covid making it harder to travel it would be hard for you to take a trip to California and visit the audeze shop or something of the sort:/ I wish I could help you out in some way to get a way for you to demo these.
I had Razer and returned it due to very poor mic quality. Sound was ok but for me PC38X is different class especially directional sound. Tested both on Warzone on PS5.
It strongly depends from what game, what type of sound do you like, what is comfortable for you etc. I myself would recommend pc38x/58x/tygr300r/he400i2020 for competitive shooters, K712 for atmosphere in large scale shooters, and 58x for narrative driven games with lots of voicovers. I use them all and I can’t tell which one are definitely best. Each have issues and each are better at something else.
I’ll have to check but I don’t think a windscreen came with mine. Does anyone know if it’s supposed to come with one? If not, where can I get one for it?
Thank you for the review, Resolve. I was asked for a recommendation for a gaming headset today. Wonder how it compares to the Hyper X Cloud II. Also wonder how it compares to the Ultrasone for 3k, you reviewed not long ago. Just kidding.
I own the PC38X and I agree with most of the review. I do however think the review is missing the discussion of sub bass, which the 6xx does not have. I cannot speak about the 560 as I have not heard it, but having a gaming headset that reproduces the sub bass frequencies that are so enjoyable in home theaters while gaming is something the 6xx cannot do. This headphone offers a larger stage than the 6xx, slightly less treble detail which can lead to headaches while gaming, a great frequency response, and rumbling sub bass. It makes one of the most enjoyable headsets to use for hours without fatigue. I’m wondering if the pinpoint imaging issue you are referring to has more to do with the game audio and not the headphone? The digital position of players in a game is not the same as recordings from a sound stage, but how video game imaging is produced is tech beyond my knowledge.
Angled drivers are actually standard practice these days, so there's no real advantage there. It's honestly fine, just not as good as some Beyers I've heard.
This is a solid review, I just wish it took more into account people who want a good single-player game / cutscene listening experience as well when gaming rather than just being able to pinpoint footsteps in Call of Duty being the only standard gamers care about. Most headphone reviewers do this and its tough to find anyone who bothers to mention that in a review. Edit: Also I know this is a headphone channel, but referencing the HD650 when it costs 30% more and probably needs an extra amp to drive it for console gaming makes little sense.
This has been my struggle. I don't really play competitive games or fps. I'm currently trying out the X2HR, which are very configurable have sounded great to me, and the 38X will be here tomorrow so I can compare them. I've heard nothing but "the 38X is the best gaming headset ever". So we'll see.
@@tobgg I did! I found that the X2HR, while I liked the sound and comfort of the X2HR, their weight was noticeable and the pair I got had a weird treble spot that bothered my ears that I couldn't isolate. That along with the convenience of the built in mic had me keeping the 38X instead.
@@zahitemremetin606 Yeah good point. I'm wondering why it didn't come with one. Do you think it's worth getting a pop filter on Amazon? Or is it best to just keep the mic down like you mentioned.
@@Princeton_James I mean one is free, so before spending any money try the free method. I'dont have PC38X but I have GSP 300 and the mic has the same form factor as PC38X. I'm using it all the way down and it works fine.
He just used it wrong, I've had 10+ sennheiser headsets and all the mics have sounded way better when using it 2 CM BELOW your mouth level. Sounds better and removes those 'plosives.
It strongly depends from what game, what type of sound do you like, what is comfortable for you etc. I myself would recommend pc38x/58x/tygr300r/he400i2020 for competitive shooters, K712 for atmosphere in large scale shooters, and 58x for narrative driven games with lots of voicovers. I use them all and I can’t tell which one are definitely best. Each have issues and each are better at something else.
I freaking *LOVE* my PC38x for discord + gaming (prefer 560S and 6xx for music)!! I have a sort of V-Shaped jaw that makes the extra clamp force suuuper appreciated!! Edit: I should note this is an imaging king and that is where I draw a massively different opinion from Andrew here - the stereo imaging on these is the best of any I own and I suspect better than ANYTHING in the Hifiman (for example) lineup for the combination of soundstage and imaging. And no, none of the stupid OS/external settings like Sonic or Dolby Atmos change that. Again, though, I think my head’s shape is what made such a different experience than Andrew’s in the subjectives like the comfort, but I dare say you are objectively wrong about these headphone’s combined soundstage and imaging qualities: This is a stereo imaging BEAST with nearly no rivals straight out of the box compared to any other headphones I’ve worn (with the monolith amp/DAC) - straight out the box this thing competes with the 800s + an amp/DAC in that regard.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Right, but you could conversely check reviews from Joshua Valour, DMS, or Badseedtech which echo sentiments very similar to mine. I might want to loan you a desktop PC because I highly suspect this has to be a motherboard/configuration issue. My problem is we could really narrow down this category to someone’s ability to pinpoint a spot in numbers, and I suspect the numbers would show players using the 38x having a distinct, if not massive, advantage in video games very consistently.
@@sephondranzer Well, to be clear I do use a desktop PC haha. I used to be a competitive sc2 player (still GM hah). The thing is, while I like all the reviewers you mentioned, my impressions line up much more closely with Crin's (and Metal571 back when he was still doing it). People can have different impressions haha.
@@ResolveReviews It’s true, audio gets super subjective in those regards. As long as you’re confident you used the headphones right. Edit: Just realized you guys are 2 completely different Andrews... my bad 😅 I would still say while I trust your expertise and honesty (both you and Mr. Lissmore), I think this thing should blow away any of the headphones it was compared to in this review in terms of XYZ imaging (where is my enemy in terms of the X, Y, and Z axis with respects to me in this game).
