Misha is teasing us with that M4 ❤ a detailed video would be cool. Also the difference between a comp and gts would be great from a drivers perspective. 👍👍
Yeah but only once it's on full power, with the water (or methanol) injection working. What a beast of a car! Not to take anything away from the Turbo S but this M4 GTS is a real track animal.
And very dumb mother fu**ing “auto journalist” criticised it including clarkson. Those filthy gobs of theirs need to be stitched to the tail pipes of the GTS!!
I'm always so impressed with Misha being able at the most frantic speed to hold a conversation like he is sitting at home drinking tea. That's routine for you, I suppose.
To many comments on the m4 in front but honestly this video showed why Porsche is so legendary in racing, look at the comfort they both are having inside the car, they are so chill and calm yet the porsche ir cornering at 70-100mph and going 130-140 on straight like it's nothing and really smooth suspension work. Lovely car
@@itsjustaname777 not even GT3 cars racing have Traction Control OFF, it's stupid to go without it, why you want you car to drift? or wheelspin? you'll just waste more time on the final lap, and this is trackday so you'll even put more danger into your life and the rest for going hardcore mode, he's not pushing for a world record in this run lol
@@itsjustaname777 Some cars have bad traction control, some cars have good tc and Some other cars give you several degrees of freedom to setup the tc
To confirm, we tuned the M4 back in September '22. Ended up with 530BHP and 747Nm Not stock, but definitelty not bigger turbos or 700bhp+ claimed in here 😂
@@arapaimagold8088 Nope, that's calculated at the engine with roughly 12% losses, which is more on the conservative side. Made 470hp~ at the hubs on our land and sea Hub Dyno. ❤️
I don’t think people understand you don’t need 800 hp in the M4 to go that fast, the balance, handling, and driver skill make all the difference. Look at Kubica’s lap in the M4
That's true. BMW handling is great but that argument isn't realy valid against the 911 because this car is even more made for the ring than the BMW M models. But what most people are wondering is how the M4 does accelerate so quick on the straight. If the engine was stock it would be notably slower than the Turbo S.
@@leopard2109 don’t think manthey racing works on the turbo s 😭 if they did it’d practically be a GT2 without the RS, with modified aero from manthey racing, such as a fixed wing and that sort, plus the engine is the same between the two with a slight power reduction to 650hp compared to 700hp on a GT2 RS
A Noble M12 once followed me around in my DC2 and came up to me afterwards asking “ what the fuck is in your car” 😅 My Engine was stock, just brakes and suspension. But turns out he had done 7 laps and I had done 150. Just shows the ring is never straight forward sometimes🙌🏻
The F80 platform is seriously underrated, you can get 700hp out of them easily and reliably once you fix the crank hub. If you sort the traction out it's a missile even stock! The handling and balance is also amazing, the most underrated M3/4 generation imo.
Holy moly that was on another level, both of you guys were totally sending it. The M4 moves incredibly and Misha was not falling behind even though the tires had enough by the end of the lap! Great video, as always, keep it up man!
It's always a good time when you post. You have inspired me to go to the Nurburgring this summer and to Germany for the first time. Keep doing what you do!
You are very welcome but please be careful with your first laps on the Nürburgring. This year is a hell of a mess with many crashes and insane beginners, probably also because of RU-vidrs like Misha attracting many people to come here thinking that they can drive like Misha...
What a great Video! It's allways so thrilling when U are chasing some more powerful or track performed car and pushing yours to it's limits so calmly. This type of videos are allways the best. Also nice to see interactions with work mates in apex.
M4GTS is a Humble M4 ? This Porsche is for the street and would eat a this BMW in a 1/4 Do the race again with a Porsche GT3Rs and you will see what happen
@@Garf2O Good Cars cost their Price 😂 U mean the Fat beetles that have nearly in every Class a Rekord on the Nürburgring? Porsche is the Goat of Cars and that’s a fact !
@@Schrottgang so tune this bmw to the same hp and with x drive, then the porsche would be eaten, the comparison you make is stupid , couldn't catch him even with 220 hp more
I love it when someone quick is with Misha on these videos, it makes it so much more entertaining. It really is like he's switched to a different setting.... kill mode engaged.
@@MikeSmith-rd9fi I agree with you, but if the driver is already reasonably versed, which he probably is, and it is his own ride, it might give him a good feel for it after 100 laps... Besides, how many laps per day can an ordinary person do on the Nordschleife?
The more & more of these videos I've watched the more respect I have for BMW. I haven't been to the ring since 2015 & only remember it as 911 heaven. All these videos seem to show, M2, M3, M4 etc keeping up the pace no probs at all. Also, I'd love to see a video about that M4 GTS IE What components are used, how is the geometry setup etc....what a machine!
Misha, this is by far one of your most adrenaline pumping , runs on the nur. ever! This had me on the edge of my seat leaning forward, very engaging! That BMW M4 is radical!!! Also it's amazing how you adapt to any car so quickly, full respect!
That final chat was funny. I’m just a watcher from Brazil and I’m very surprised about how fast the BMWs can go at Nurburgring. Nice video, fast drivers.
This is definitely the most hardcore I’ve seen Misha drive. FantaaAaaaaaastic video as always. I dream to live near and be a tuner/tech At Nurburgring. Love living through your videos.
I'm portuguese too and it makes me happy to see a portuguese guy driving like that! Great driver and great car! Your lap was also great Misha! What a cool video!
That M4 is crazy! Now... Let`s talk about some numbers. Turbo S stock 0-60mph 2,7sec // 100-200kph 5,8sec // Fast nurburgring time 7:17 ------ M4 GTS stock 0-60mph 3,7sec // 100-200 kph 8,0 sec // Fast nurburgring time 7:27. Technically, it is impossible to a stock M4 GTS (even in stage 2) have this performance over a stock Turbo S (imagine a 750HP one). Given this facts, something could explaining it, mechanical problems that reduce the power but the car is istill working fine, driving skills, proper race setup, tires, misinformation about the real power, etc. Conclusion: If you take the same driver, the best race setup in each car for that track, the M4 will have slowers lap times than the Turbo S. And, of course, in straight line, Turbo S smash M4 by far!
@trentox6713 I'm not denying how insane that M4 is, but if you understand about cars is natural to find everything weird in this video. I have a Turbo S so I know how fast it is, you, on the other hand, you must have never accelerated these cars and that's why you ignore all the numbers I brought in my comment. Have a nice day!
@@mesamaromba you dont even know me and youre already assuming things about my life.... thats the internet nowadays... but if you think that then go ahead. If you would've read some more comments here, you would've seen that the owner of the M4 GTS commented, that it has been tuned to 530BHP and 747Nm, but its still way less than the Turbo S and just flies away.
@trentox6713 do you know a channel called Carwow, I assume the answer is yes! Well, if you check de m4 drag race times (even the CS model) you'll see is much slower that the Turbo S stock. As I said before, some information is missing in this video, and you can see everybody in the end got surprised (even the m4 owner). If you understand about cars you know something is not right.
Why are you talking about 0-60 times? They're practically irrelevant. Not 🚫 not that, quoting and comparing advertised ring times is not going to be accurate either. Different tyres, weather, traffic to name a few. To top it off you mention yourself about drivers. Quoting car wow drag races was the icing.😅
I feel like the only reason he finally caught up with it was because the gts got stuck behind a car blocking him. That gts was really fast in the straights and in corners.
So impressive for an otherwise stock M4 GTS to run with the newest Turbo S. Clean driving by all i have a feeling the M4 may have been pushing a bit harder relative to the 911 but there didnt seem to be much in it on either side...3rd time im watching since release. Excellent
What an exhilarating drive! M4 was pushing to its absolute limit but even so what a driver and i cannot believe its slightly stock as even on the straights the speed was around the same as the Porshe Turbo!! Great set up of the BMW just shows what can be achieved especially when keeping a beast such as the 911 Turbo S 750bhp just behind it!
You can see at the start a comparison of the two (BMW in rear view mirror) - the Porsche really pulls on it. "200hp" can easily be lost by shedding a bit too much speed or on the power a fraction late.
@@mgcharoudin haha thanks mate - wasn’t aimed at you and I know the geezer was prob a nice bloke - a little bit billy big bollocks tho eh…..hence your comment “yer you already told me” 🤷🏻♂️
"computer games"... that's how most of us have learned this language right?. Great video, your concentration following the GTS was top notch, for the amount of HP and torque i asume the focus must be perfect. EDIT: the smiles at the end of the lap are priceless!!.
I don't know why I missed this video for 6 months but this highlights what I love most about the channel. Great cars, sounds, action and each video manages to be unique. You are always so professional, respectful and inclusive with the owners. I think that your example gets reflected in the standard of your comments section too. Anyway, Lemsip... Yes, it''s great for clearing out the ol' sinuses but I would be a little careful with that volume of gear! It can also ping up on some drug tests if you have to do those.
i had my eyes on the bmw the whole time the bmw m4 GTS was so fast and quick was beautiful seeing it take those corners misha please make a video with that specific orange M4 gts
That BIMMER was an animal Dude. He walked away form you a couple time Mich. Crazy Bro. It's my bucket list to have you drive my car around the ring My Friend!!
Call me skeptical, but once I drove M5 with modded S63 engine that makes 780HP on wheels. There’s no way a stage 1 M4 has massive torque to come out and accelerate from corner exit like that.
Awesome driving by both guys. Wow that GTS! AO52's they're superb but very soft. Shame the Porsche owner didn't shut up and let Misha get on with the job. Loved it.
For all the 'experts' in the comments... Forget BHP figures, it's the torque that's the important figure here... BMW 750Nm, Porsche 800Nm, but 200kg heavier. People calling the BMW driver a liar, get a grip.. If anyone is lying, it's the Porsche owner claiming an extra 100bhp because their mate drilled holes in the airbox
I was really impressed everytime that bmw turned into a corner and just shot out of there like a bullet out of an ak47. That thing hauls some serious ass. Very very impressive driving
Testament to the skilled BMW driver!! I sold my BMW M4 GTS last year, partially because it scared the living s**t out of me on a regular basis. 500 “real BMW HP”, rear wheel drive on relatively skinny 275 rear tires, that bad boy would liftoff oversteer in a heartbeat. I realized I was just not meant to have a car that track focused and required so much finesse. I’m much happier behind the wheel of my 991 Porsche Turbo Cabriolet. I realized before I got killed that I was not enough of a driver to handle the M4 GTS. keep up the great videos Misha!! also, I had the GTS’s water injection valve block replaced multiple times, and it kept failing. Hopefully the Porsche GT2 RS water injection is less finicky.
A mess in your post says that you aren’t buying any of them since these are different purposes cars - a turbo s is an all weather awd luxury oriented gt 911 while a Gts is a track oriented rwd car with a roll cage that should be compared to a 911 gt3 or cayman gt4.
Nuno wasn't hanging around. What a mad lad. It's interesting though, man's right in questioning the Porsche not catching up to the M4. The figures would suggest otherwise. I wonder what was going on. It's not like you were holding back. You guys were properly flying too. Like how chill the owner was throughout the lap, making conversation as well. He was kinda reminding me of Salomondrin.
Great video watching some sort of like a little battle M4 guy is really fast just hesitates a little with traffic which is good but misha is a killer with the traffic
Man, that bimmer looks very nice. Just gorgeous colour and design. The Porsche Turbo S is a fantastic car. It suits with her rival, the BMW. Great driving, btw. ☺
One of your best, I see a fine balance of not wanting to race the BMW, but doing it, then thinking fuck this is a expensive car as it steps out entering the carousel, nice work 👍