I shoot an old Pentax K-5II. With the battery grip attached it becomes a big chunky camera. My camera is also weather resistant. I think it could mess up a would be thief pretty well too!
I love my Pentax DSLR. Those photons of light hit the back of your retina directly. There is something priceless about it. Your brain process when manually focus... It is like chess vs checkers.
I have 6 DSLR's spanning about 20 years, some crop frame and some full frame, and they all still work great. As a matter of fact, sometimes don't remember which camera I used to take some of my pictures. I really see no need to upgrade to a new system when I can buy high-end dslr's and their lenses for a fraction of the cost of a new mirrorless and lenses to go with it. I just picked up a clean low-mileage 5D MkIII for stupid cheap, and photographed a wedding with it without a single issue. Win-win!
One year later.......I still see no need to get rid of my DSLR's!! I added a 5D Mark IV to the line up. Got it refurbished for half the price of new, and the EF lenses just keep getting cheaper!
I shot from 1968 to 1998 with SLRs. After a mix of digital I went to DSLR. I do have some point and shoots but I still love the DSLR. I even have an affinity to SLRs in 6x6 where the image is reversed. I found that this very thing allowed me to still have a real world view but also allowed me to compose better. I shot video professionally from 1978-2010. You would think I might not care which one I use but I still like SLR/DSLR. I'm 71, just at old f***...
I prefer the smaller size of mirrorless, being able to have a full frame camera like my a7cii on my cargos pockets or in a small travel bag is priceless to me
Totally in agreement with your assessment of why shooting with a DSLR is way more engaging than with a mirrorless. It's akin to writing notes with pen and paper which is oddly more satisfying than using a laptop -- at least in my experience. Why that is so perhaps has something to do with haptics. Writing longhand a word, albeit more time consuming, seems to engage more of my brain than clinically typing the same word on a keyboard. Just as vinyls and CDs have staying power, DSLRs are here to stay.
I get stopped by people when I am out and about with my D700 and there is a slight pause after they have said "excuse me', and I know they are former owners. They are still grieving for this wonderful camera; they list their reasons for selling it, they say they are thinking about getting one again. However, you know they wont, you know they will continue their day recalling the good times and good pictures they took using it. The half arsed smile they give you as they go on their way can be haunting.
That's your opinion. I know they are not for everybody, (different strokes for different folks). I kept a couple of my older DSLR, I also own a couple of film cameras (they are no longer my daily shooters). My Z6ii has a wider lens opening, its better at low light situations. Image quality is awesome. The electronic viewfinder shows what your image is going to look like before you capture it. The Z primes and zooms are off the scale. Mirrorless are the future. Life is change, growth is optional. Choose wisely. Thanks for your post.
@@tomsviewphotographyadventu2514 You are so right! The Z6ii is also a low light monster. I recently sold mine to make room for the coming release of the Z6iii. In the meantime the Z5 is my daily shooter. Wishing you all the very best!
At this date in 10/2023 I’m still happy with my Nikon d500, d810 and d850. I have 18 lenses for these awesome cameras. I might go mirrorless one day, but it ain’t gonna be today, or tomorrow, or the next day. At age 70 I may retire and never go mirrorless, and I’m fine with that.
I totally agree with you. I still use a Nikon D610 and D850 for my photography. I love them because they are made for endurance. Plus the lenses I have I have worked hard to get for my system and with simplicity they work and capture great quality detailed photos of what I see. DSLR’s are still pretty damn good 👍🏾!
It looks like we're finally here. DSLR lenses are getting few and far between on B&H's site. Lots of "grey market" now. I'm with Marc, in that I want to be able to look out the lens not see a TV image produced by the lens. What's funny is that I had worked my way up from prosumer cameras which did just that: Put an LCD on the back and put an LCD in the view finder. Mirrorless, though it does have its advantages such as weight, feels like a step backwards to me.
I’m so pleased someone else feels the same as me. I hate these virtual view finders and it’s killing photography for me. Using an SLR makes it real and you feel part of the experience. The art of photography is dying and people are obsessed having the latest tech. I will keep working with my D3’s and D4S for years to come as they are fast and reliable and bombproof and I love the sound of the shutter.
Not parting with with Pentax K-1. I am seriously considering dumping my Lumix S1 system, nothing wrong with it I just never bonded with it. Doesn't feel like an extension of what I see.
"Using an SLR makes it real and you feel part of the experience." OK. I assume people who use rangefinders don't have real experience (whatever that means) :D :p
How the fudge is the art of photography dying? Mirrorless have unlocked so much potential in cameras today that DSLR will never be able to do. You're basically like every other DSLR owners making up excuses to justify keeping ya DSLR. Mirrorless is the now and future of cameras because they simply removed that mirror. Had Sony not forced Canon and Nikon to go Mirrorless, we would still be playing with outdated DSLR technology right now. You can keep coming up with excuses to keep your DSLR but give credit to Mirrorless when its due.
As someone who was adamant I would never own a DSLR, always assuming they weren’t right for me (for whatever reason), I recently picked up the Canon 5D Classic, and it’s been an absolute revelation and breath of fresh air. Superb image quality, great battery life, great adaptability with my older vintage lenses. What’s not to like. Got the bug now.
Lag is more to do with the response of the shutter release system. As the old saying goes, “If you press the shutter release when you see the moment you already missed the shot” (unless you’re using ProCapture on an Olympus/OM System camera). It’s all about anticipation. Thankfully it’s not a general photography manifesto or law, but just Luke’s opinion and preference. I still use an SLR. I also mainly use a M4/3 mirrorless camera, and sometimes a “full frame” DSLR: whatever best suits the job or situation. Mostly it’s what I feel comfortable using. Hell, some people even love taking photos with their phones and are convinced they are the best cameras.
I think it's interesting how people want vintage cameras nowadays, and they long for them. And now here we go (again), switching to another system "mirrorless" and people will long for the DSLR. Enjoy them while we have them!
Personally, I LOVE the reassuringly loud "CLICK!" of the shutter on my D850. Do you (CLICK!), take (CLICK!) , to be your lawfully wedded (CLICK! CLICK! CLICK!) .
Hi Luke - I am a wedding photographer and totally agree with you - I use the D750 - now buying the D780. Some may say it is a personal preference if you use mirrorless or DSLR - yes agree - however if that is the case then Nikon need to continue to give customers that choice and preference
Just a small correction, the D600 and the D4 came out about 10 years ago, not 20. And yeah, I still happily use my Canon DSLRs, a 5D MkII, which I bought last year to and a 1Ds MkII which I bought two years earlier.
Had to choose last month between a D850 or moving on to the Z series . . . my D500 gave me 74,000 shots beyond its rating and I couldn't even be upset at it for dying . . . and I ended up opting for the D850 for many of the reasons you're stating. I'm sure my next camera will be a Z-something in 5-7 years but I have no regrets through the first 1,000 shots.
I have been taking advantge of those who sell their DSLR equipment cheap and building quite an arsenal, from M42 lenses to modern-day AF lenses. I am not willing to get rid of all that stuff and mortgage my house to get a mirrorless system, if I am happy with the performance of my gear, why should I switch? What I crave today is a Pentax K1 MII. In general, the advantages of mirrorless over DSLRs can be counted with the fingers of one hand. Conversely, there are advantages of DSLRS over mirrorless too.
I used to work in a camera shop back in college. My first DSLR was a D70 back in 2005. Beautiful camera for its time. Also, my wife knew I was lusting for full frame years later so she got a D800 new back in 2013 as a wedding gift for me. I still have those two cameras with along with all my AFD lenses. Yes, I took advantage of getting used AFD lenses and got myself an almost new 85 1.4 AFD for $450 in Kyoto, Japan back in 2018. I will say DSLR are heavy but there’s something magical and intimate about looking into an optical viewfinder. Anyway, if I ever do shift to a mirrorless, I’ll definitely go to medium format. One day, maybe. For now, I’m still happy with my D800 and I haven’t even pushed this camera to be its limit. Maybe a good used D4 would be nice also. Haha. Anyway thanks for the video!
For me, I have two cameras (dslr's) that have CCD sensor in them. If Canon, Nikon, Fujifilm, Sony, etc put back CCD sensor into their mirrorless system, it would be gold!
I'm with you bro! Nikon D4S, D750, and the D500 for me! I get amazing wildlife and birding photographs! BTW, ALL my cameras -EVER - have been gripped! Cheers!
I couldn't agree more, and I hated to hear bad comment on Pentax bcoz it doesn't shoot video well, Pentax was not focus on video from the start. Hardly any new mirrorless these days matches the build quality and ease of use of Pentax, that's why I still stick with it after my first Pentax DSLR 10yrs. ago
I'm happy to see someone voice out my opinion 😃 i have nothing against mirrorless but just that some things about it including the current price for a good mirrorless doesn't make sense to me at all
There are many advantages of dslr over mirrorless and the biggest one is that a dslr can be mirrorless but a mirrorless cant be a dslr. Dslrs will not die but will be killed.
Dumbest comment on this video so far. DSLR can never be a Mirrorless period. And Mirrorless does not want to be a DSLR. If DSLR can be mirrorless, then go silent shooting at a press conference. Use Eye-AF in portrait sessions. Capture sports players at 20+ fps. Use IBIS in DSLR to stable your video footages. Review your images in the OVF. And most of all, use all those 400 focus points in your DSLR. Otherwise, just another DSLR shooter coming up with more dumb excuses again.
This may turn into a religious event. As a lifelong Pentax use, film, 67, and now dSLR I have long been to that temple of seeing the moment. It seems at times we worry that Pentax will be passed by, so many times it's epitaph has been written. But it is the love of seeing that moment that you expressed so clearly that will keep it going. I am a naturalist first who adores capturing moments of nature. When ai want a nature on TV I'll watch BBC or PBS
Thanks, Marc! - I absolutely agree with you. I much prefer OVF over EVF. I tried a couple, several times and just could not see any reason for them. I'll stick with my old Nikon DSLRs.
Having tried ML cameras I prefer DSLR, I will be staying with Pentax and I am glad they are not loosing the OVF in the ongoing tech race for better specs. For me there is something more engaging in the process using DSLR even if sometimes you have to work a little harder. It is good that Pentax will be continuing the production and development of this type of photography. As an example the K3 mk111 is a beautiful camera and I look forward to what they come up with in the future!
I agree with Luke and much prefer my wildlife photography with a DSLR and not a mirrorless. I am happy with the mirrorless, for example these last 6 weeks while in Portugal, for travel and general photography. It is lighter and smaller as a body (full frame). But when I get back home and out taking birds during their fall migration I will be taking my DSLR.
@@Royalbob123 that mode doesn't compensate for EVF lag. When you shoot with a mirrorless camera, the captured frame is never exactly the same as what is viewed in the EVF at that very moment. The view is available after it's processed by the processor that takes time. This is what we know as lag. Modern cameras have successfully narrowed down that lag however; it's not the same as the speed of light which is what we get on OVF.
@@quazisanjeed6395 oh I see. Thanks for explaining but DSLR production is stopped by most brands and mirrorless is the future as per them /market ? But they claim mirrorless cameras are more suitable for wildlife as they are fast and have many focus points ( especially eye 👁️)
@@Royalbob123 manufacturers claim a lot of things that are not true. They need sales only this is true. I cannot speak about others but myself only. I'm a hobbyist photographer and own 5 pro bodies with tons of shutter life remaining. More than sufficient for next 10 years or more from now on. However, had I been a starter, I would choose Pentax who have vowed to continue producing DSLRs and not go mirrorless. The RU-vidr of this video also declared he's DSLR forever. Because these are real cameras. Whereas, mirrorless cameras are just smartphone updates. They might be overtaken by those phones in near future!
It doesn’t matter what camera you have in your hand, i choose the one i make money with. All the talk of this and that, just go out and shoot wether its your job or for a hobby. Dont matter, missing shots is part of photography, messing up shots is part of photography… its about learning, creating your style and enjoying it, ive been a professional (make a living from) photographer for 6 years and still love making images. Still dont care what camera is in my hand, i have a preference down to what works for me but who cares what anyone else is using? Go out shooting! I love my d5, its been with me through so so much but i also have a z6ii and boy is that thing chief! I love the evf, in a different way to the ovf, 90% of the time i use the z6ii with superior glass but 10% i dig out the war horse… same standard of pictures, makes me my living no one would know what camera i used, but i know that each serve a purpose!
I have been shooting the fantastic D850 for years and the Z9 for close to one year, the Z9 is a D850 on steroids. Have hardly used the D850 in the last year since I bought the Z9, bought the Z9 mostly for video, and was also concerned about the EVF vs OVF effect and the battery life. The EVF is fantastic, NO LAG whatsoever, and it's crisp and clear, what you see "exposure wise" is what you are capturing, which means less PP work needed when it comes to highlights and shadows "I also only shoot in RAW". You can see your histogram in the EVF in real time, the same with the how dark or bright the scene is "what the sensor is capturing" in real time, your also have edge to edge AF coverage of the sensor, which is not the case with a DSLR. The one other great thing about the Z9 is that it has no shutter mechanism, which means one less mechanical part that could fail. And let's not forget that with mirrorless you no longer have to calibrate your lenses to your body to help mitigate back-focus or front-focus AF issues. In regards to battery life, the Z9 "I can only speak of the Z9" is great "thousands of shots on one charge" for a mirrorless camera. It's not as good as the D850 with the battery grip, reason is that the D850 or any other DSLR does not have to power an EVF and all the other functions that DSLRs lack compared to mirrorless cameras. Final note, the D850 is still one great stills camera, it didn't stop being great do to the Z9 or any other mirrorless camera.
Technology matures like dslrs when it started decades ago. Mirroless isnt just removing mirrors that flips but way more than that. It improves many things that dslr can just wish it has.
You made a very strong point about being able to simply see throught the lense itself which is very tangible and almost magical experience through which we connect to the world around us.
I have some compact cameras (namely Ricoh GR and Fujifilm X100s) that I use in particular scenarios because of their compact design and mobility. For everything else it's DSLR. Mirrorless cameras feel too "electronic" to me. I don't feel having full connection with the equipment when I handle them. They have their advantages but I guess my brain is just wired a bit different. For wildlife photo and video I use Nikon D500. For everything else it's D700 which is a 14 yeast old cam. And I recently acquired another D700. Because it's that good for stills. I think a lot of people do not even realize how good this camera is.
I was about to buy a canon r50 and was so shocked it shoot 360 pics before it dies. I had a nikon d3400 years back and it did 1500 before it died but I used to complain about the battery life on it. Thank you for the video, now I know exactly which camera to buy.
Agree with everything you say - I have an early Fuji with a laggy evf that is hella annoying. When shooting pictures of people I try and split my attention between the viewfinder (for focus and composition) and an unobstructed view of my subject to get the moment I want. It’s not working very well.. My problem with dslrs comes down to 1) manual focus. Having originally shot film I liked the split prism and while focus peaking/magnification aren’t as good as the split prism, they’re better for manual focus than what dslrs offer. 2) For those of us who want to shoot video there is the issue of stabilization. Pentax seems to have had the right idea and I spose Nikon and the others could’ve followed suit but for whatever reason didn’t. Also, I like the simplicity of the dslr compared to the complexity of some of these supercomputing mirrorless cameras. I don’t feel I need a PhD in menu navigation.
I see one major misunderstanding here. A digital viewfinder isn’t designed to show the viewer a depiction of reality. It showing how the camera views the scene. That is vastly different from how human vision works.
I have both types of technology but I always find myself gravitating back to the DSLR. I completely agree that even though they have cut the display lag significantly, they will never reach the speed of light. The closest thing is a Z9/Z8 (or Sony's A9/A1 series) with the stacked sensor technology and zero lag viewing, but it is still a processed version of reality. The argument for mirrorless viewfinders that irks me the most is that you get to see what the camera is picking for exposure and have an opportunity to correct this before capture. Two problems with this: 1) In the heat of the action who has time to make corrections on the fly?; 2) Since when have exposure systems gotten so bad that this is necessary? This argument is totally lame. I don't have a D4, but I do have the Df and absolutely love that 16 MP sensor. While I really liked my D700, I like my Df even more. All of this just to say you are not alone in your position on this topic. Cheers!
Luke is absolutely right once again. Why fix something that is not only not broken, but is the best technology we've ever had? I'm not getting into these "mirrorless" cameras when the cameras that actually *_have_* mirrors work better than anything I've ever had
0:40 (Maybe a bit late, but) You are not just looking at a little TV screen. You are looking at how your image will be exposed. On DLSR it is essentially just guess work. Tbh, since we are notlimited to film anymore, it isn't realy an issue to just take another picture, but especially when you have moments, you can't really afford to have to take a picture, just to realise that your exposure was a bit off. And what do you care how the image through the camera looks to your eye. What matters is how the taken image looks to your eyes. And when you take pictures digitall anyway, why then still bother with a technique which was just neccessary, when "live view" wans't an option.
the hate towards lag totally ignores the fact that we have huge lag in our dslr systems. we have just gotten used to it. canon 1dx markii is normally .055sec but can be set to .036 according to canon. this is why mirrorless cameras close down the aperture to shoot burst.
To each their own right? I see many arguments that mirrorless takes away the guesswork from the capture. I think that's most beneficial for pros who count on each shot for the $. I'm no pro. I'm an amateur hobbyist. I want some guesswork. I want an organic feel. I want the mechanical aspect that comes with a DSLR. I don't want to feel like I'm using a phone to capture photos. I go out shooting, and it feels sad to see everyone just running to the last mirrorless... I know this sounds a little stupid, but it feels like the ART of photography gets just a tad bit lost the more it goes COMPLETELY electronic. Photography is as much an experience as an art, and for myself, I NEED the organic feeling of looking through optics at my subject, and THINK about my settings. Studying light to think how I want to expose... I feel that is partially lost with mirrorless.
Thank you Luke from the core of my heart. I extend my hand for a cordial handshake. I'm in 100% agreement with you on this subject. I was little scared that perhaps I might not find anyone on the same platform as everyone seems to be singing MILC! Now, I know not all are that crazy to join just any chorus sung around them. As a hobbyist nature & wildlife photographer; I love DSLRs for the same reasons you mentioned. Furthermore, I also love older DSLRs. Being a Canon user, I shoot with 5D Classic, 5DII, 1DIV, 7D and in order to try out some new features (hardly necessary); I bought 90D couple of weeks ago. I know Canon also declared their focus on producing MILCs and stop DSLRs but I don't really care. Because the gears I own have huge shutter life remaining. I always use native lenses and don't feel the necessity of AF microadjustment for them. They are always spot on. Thank you again.
I opted for another d850 over a z9. I used the z9 for a week photographing climbers in scotland , i couldnt wait to give it back , theyre like 20 year old fuji bridge cameras , i like manual everything even focus !
I do own a couple of mirrorless cameras BUT I more often than not find myself going back to my old Nikon D200, mirrorless always seems to deliver quite a flat image (to me anyway).
I’ve got a Nikon D7100 and a D810 that I will rock until the wheels fall off! The F mount is just legendary and the image quality of a classic Nikon DSLR will one day be nostalgic and sought after! Mark my words! DSLR is the new film lol
the more i think about it, the more i just want to get an old dslr again as my new main camera. its not about the image quality, both systems create equally awesome photos you can work professional with. dslrs are way cheaper now, the experience is more fun and more grounded and it also kind of fits my ''simple life'' mentality better. with dslrs it was so simple. you had like 2-3 brands to chose from and the lineup was also simple, entry level, midrange, a pro body and then a dedicated sports camera usually. pick what you can afford. cameras where easy to pick up, easy to understand, simple concepts and had all the features one could need to take a nice photo. nowadays with mirrorless i feel SO incredibly overwhelmed. there are like hundreds? of models to chose from, all of them seem to have some sort of drawbacks or they catering to certain niches or the lenses are huge or expensive or this or that and menus that are so deep i need to study to even get through them and so many features and ... my brain cant even keep up. its just too much.
Had loads of cameras. Canon 5D 2, D600, D800, D300s (great camera), 1Dx Mk ii ; M50, Fuji XT4 (and 1 and 2), Sony A6400. Sold the lot. Keeping my 5D2 and bought a D500 a couple of weeks ago. Couldn’t be happier.
that OVF gives a feeling of reality, these EVFs are cool and all but then I worry about burn-in, dead pixels, electrical issues, and the likes, I am not easy on my equipment I use it in snow rain, and heat, shorelines, and marshlands. My equipment is well used and it is taken care of but again one less thing that can fail the better.
I think I agree with you. I have all Nikon mirrorless and only one DSLR, the Canon 5D Mark IV. I love that camera. I agree with you so much that I am subscribing!
This video was especially for me 😆. I'm on the fence with mirrorless vs DSLR. I love my DSLR. I recently purchased a mirrorless toy,,,oooops I mean camera lol. The mirrorless is very small and lightweight. I appreciate the rapid deployment and ease of handling. I used it for goofing around but if it's a paid job, or something I want to keep, then it's DSLR for me. I'm used to DSLR and I'm with you Sir. I'm sticking with it as long as I can. I'm not hating on mirrorless cameras. I've seen remarkable images from them. I shot a lot on low light. I use flash where allowed or applicable. However, my DSLR does good in low light situations where flash is not used. I'm glad that we have the choice and I know that great images will come for both types. I just wish I could find a dslr with great live view performance like my mirrorless. Somebody please let me know if there's a dslr with amazing live view performance. Thanks and God bless.
I own both, for travel I like the light weight of my Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II but for Macro photography I prefer the extreme detail I can see through the view finder using my Nikon D850 DSLR. Cheers!!!
I have migrated to Mirrorless over the past couple of years but let me you, the digital viewfinder will never replace the feeling of seeing real life through that little window on a DSLR. I think people will seek that feeling once the craze of mirrorless feathers away.
Biggest plus with mirrorless is Ai trained autofocus. It's a game changer with wildlife and portrait photography. And one more thing. No more anoying lens calibrations.
There are lots of things I really like about mirrorless cameras. The autofocus systems got a big bump. The R5 & R6 was a game changer for me. If I bought a DSLR today. There would only be one I'd consider. The Nikon D850 It was probably the pinnacle of DSLR's.
Yeah, everybody talks about the AF. I stil use my Zeiss Planar, MF, on my Canon 5D and Canon 5D Mark III. And i don’t get it. I never had a problem with my AF lenses, how come this is a big think?
@@tudorciobanu3895 well, try eye AF once and you will see. It surely depends of what and how you photograph, but it's so simple to just focus on composition and let the model move and AF system to catch her face\eye on wide aperture.
@Tudor Ciobanu it's one of those things that you don't realize you wanted or needed till you are using it and it blows your mind how improved it is. I loved my 5DMKII then My 6DMKII.. I shoot a lot of real estate.. one company I work with wants their shots in HDR.. I shoot 5 shot brackets.. I shoot my real estate bracketed shots handheld instead of with tripod. A realtor had hired multiple ppl to shoot a house. Me for video plus some extra still shots & the realtors advert reel. The other photographer was shooting with his Nikon 750D which is a solid camera on a tripod. The photographer was liking my shots so much instead of some highlight stills he asked if I'd shoot the whole house. Which I did so they had extra coverage. I did the video & photo quicker & better than the guy who was shooting just photo on a tripod. The other guy had been their regular for years. Is this just about the Camera? No.. I have great glass & know how to be extremely efficient. Plus I know my composition and what these realtors want/like. So yes the EF glass is still great as is the 5D3 & 5D4.. but an R6/R6ii would really improve your workflow in ways you don't realize until you use one for awhile. Do I think the R6II's picture quality is better than the 5D4? Not resolution but I do notice a dynamic range improvement and certainly the low light performance is very noticeable. I'm not saying you gotta jump to mirrorless.. but I am saying it does just make things seem to flow more smoothly. You really don't realize how much I loved my 6DMKII. It almost pissed me off that the R6 was that much of an improvement. On a manual focus lens obviously you won't see the benefits of AF. And also depends on what subjects you're shooting with a manual focus lens. And with the older AF lenses.. there wasn't a "problem" so to speak. It's just a vast improvement with how it locks on. How fast it locks on.. low light is less of an issue. The RF L glass is noticeably better In many ways. Even the 100 Macro lens you get more magnification.
@@wojt4spes I believe you are right, but for my photography I don"t think that will bring a big plus. I enjoy using the camera, optical viewfinder, buttons, manual focus. I believe Leica M will be my next camera. Again, this is because I love the experience using manual focus, optical view finder and so on.
@@tudorciobanu3895 I do have Leica M and I second you in that department. But there is a difference between making photography for myself and making photography for a client.
Thanks for this. I feel exactly the same. This summer, I upgraded to the original Canon 1DX for similar reasons. It allows to to capture exactly the moment I want to capture, not a split second later, when I’ve potentially missed that facial expression! Anyway, thanks again
There's 9ms lag from pressing the shutter to recording image based on some Sony specs , just an example. So tell me please what the hell do you photograph , that with your 200ms reaction time you complain about 9ms shutter release. Facial expressions of dragon flies on crystal meth ? There's like dozen of reasons to go for DSLR but for some weird logic many of you feel like flapping of mirror is lag-less while mirrorless are so damn slow.
I recently bought a Nikon D850, I didn't want a mirrorless. I work on images and projects on the computer for hours and hours and the last thing I want to do is stare at another computer screen in a camera's viewfinder. I want to see a live image, not a computer's version of it. I also don't want to carry anymore than 2 batteries when I travel and that wouldn't cut it with mirrorless. I'm sticking with DSLR and I have no plans to change. Thanks for the great video, happy to know I'm not the only one.
The lag point isn't really a point... With mirrorless you capture exactly what you see in the VF, not what happened a milli second later.. Also as someone mentioned below - the mirror lifting up is actually more laggy than mirrorless. I own both mirrorless and a DSLR. Mirrorless is way better for street photography while for landscapes I prefer the DSLR. Mirrorless is no doubt the future.
As a hobbyist: what’s wrong with a DSLR? Nothing. As it’s been said. I can buy a fantastic camera that’s new to myself & others, at fantastic prices. And oodles of lens as well. I’m licking my chops. Now IMO the mirror less cameras are another way for the manufacturer’s to breath new life into cameras & command high prices. And if they’re app driven. That means like an Apple Watch. Every time you turn around there comes a new 1. And thru the app they control the obsolescence of your camera.
Seeing what the exposure is going to be which is what you see on a mirrorless is a monumental advantage. So what you see in an SLR is not really what the photo will be when it's finished. The lag if any these days on a mirrorless is so small it's irrelevant. They don't call it live view for nothing.
When I started vvlogging, i thought i needed to switch to a mirrorless, so I did. But luckily I didnt sell all my dslrs, and I still now use my 30d because then for photography, I think the user experience of a mirrorless cant quite replace the dslrs. And yes, I do like the optical VF, as well as the chunky body with a firm grip. And I have small hands.
I think its a matter of personal peference, its the photographer that creates and captures the image. its about the eco system you want to invest in for the future and also what your personal or professional requirements are.The 7 Winners Luke was refering to would have won the award even if they were using mirroless or DSLR and possibly even a film camera, depending on what they were capturing. I know professionals who are only using DSLR's because it does the job and they dont want to waste money on equipment they dont need.
I am a hobby photographer with a low budget. Loved my bridge camera for low cost birds pics during my walks. Wanted some benefits of a larger sensor, so bought an entry-level DSLR camera with a crop sensor. Takes good pics, when could get it to focus. Autofocus is slow. I don't like how it is big, noisy & clunky. I bought an entry-level mirrorless. Lighter & faster to zoom which suits my preferences. It kinda seems too easy though. Like could have a robot operate it & would still get the shot. Lens are limited though without an adapter. Comes down to personal preferences & budget. I find autofocus the pace of a snail frustating. An optical focus is no good for me & haven't used one for years with my complicated vision prescription.
I've been a NYC-Based Photographer for more than 30 years who started out in 1987 using a Canon T-50 Film camera, then I got a Minolta X-700, and used these throughout the 1980's and into the 90's! I didn't switch from film to digital SLR's until 2007, when I got my first Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ30 Camera! I Love all The DSLR's that I own, and will NEVER switch from DSLR'S to MIRRORLESS!I will however make a Future move from DSLR'S to MEDIUM FORMAT Cameras!! 📷📸
I wholeheartedly agree. Last weekend I came back home after a day´s photography (it's a hobby for me) and found that I had taken 640 shots. The battery in my Canon 90d had only dropped by 25%. I know that mirrorless cameras can often do many frames per second, but the 10FPS that my camera does is more than sufficient for my needs. Besides, I like holding a camera in my hands, not a small computerized box.
hello Mark, it's clear what you say, respect for that. For comparable reasons I choose for...mirrorless. Because of the great Fujinon lenses with their opening ring on it. As an old school film photographer, my XT3 gives me the same joy than with a vintage SLR. Question of feeling. I just shoot for pleasure, not at all pro.
I get the ultimate progression from DSLR to mirrorless. Technology advancements were bound to come along. Where I am pretty disgusted as a Nikon user is that their old lenses don’t transfer without the adapter. I think Nikon stands to lose many many users due to this as a time to jump ship if you were ever on the fence.
I own them both dslr and mirrorless . love my dslr because I can just go for a walk and look trough the viewfinder with my camera off and search for composition… I can’t do that with my mirrorsless I need to have my camera on and waist my battery!
I love my old Canon EOS 60D DSLR. I got to hold an R6 and look into the menu and shoot with it for literally a minute. I won't lie, it felt great and awkward at the same time. Not sure I'm sold on mirrorless yet, though. I love the bulk and feel of my 60D (yes, I love an ancient crop sensor DSLR. What's it to ya? LOL). Seriously, though, I *MIGHT* get a mirrorless in the future. I won't say never. I just really love the feel of my 60D and it's by no means a priority to own a mirrorless at this time for me *shrug*
Let's see in 30-40 years how many dslr's are you shooting.. Nothing against prefering the UX of a dslr. I still enjoy my 5DII and also enjoy film cameras but I think your statments are a bit exagerated
In 30-40 years we might have a 10gigapixel cellphone sensor where its small size wont matter a bit since it will use a new tech with great ability of collecting light, you'll only shoot 4 photos from a certain spot looking to each direction of the horizon...let the hyper computer of the phone do its magic regarding your preferences and then simply crop wherever you like and however much you like in each of the photos and practically compose the photo you want after shooting it! It wont be really "photography", the milc users will use this as their biggest argument on the debate MILCs vs computational cellphotography and some "iphone 45x" user will laugh stating that milcs are the dinosaurs gone extinct and they'd simply accept it and move on to the future. So what?
Isn't the shooting experience with digital mirrorless is more or less like shooting with film rangefinder? Digital mirrorless: you see the image on LCD/digital VF, captured by the image sensor Film rangefinder: you see the image on the viewfinder frame. On both cases, you don't see "directly" from the lens. Anyway, for me, the #1 dealbreaker is medium format. Really, medium format DSLR like Hasselbad or Phase One isn't particularly fun for daily walk. Compare that to e.g Fuji GFX50, which is not bigger than Nikon D800. Yes, I know medium format film bodies like Pentax 67 or Mamiya RB is even bigger and heavier.
As a NIKON DSLR user with a 14 year old D90 , a 11 year old D7000 and D600 bought used 7 years ago I have no interest in mirrorless cameras and all 3 of the nikons are working great and only the D7000 has had any repairs after a internal electrical fault . With them all being older cameras I have been able to buy good genuine battery grips for all 3 used at a reasonable cost and also kirk arca swiss type L brackets at low prices rather than buying china made will fit sort of brackets .
I have 4 Nikon DSLR bodies (D5500, D7200, D750, D850...D850 gets 1,850 shots per battery!!), along with 11 lenses & I still want 2 or 3 more lenses. I work in a retail camera store & looking at the prices of mirrorless bodies & lenses, I just shake my head at shoppers who come in. They don't have a camera, but were told by someone they know that they should ONLY get a mirrorless camera. But then they see the prices of mirrorless bodies that are a thousand $ or more over the DSLR's, & the mirrorless lenses are like 3-4+ the price of the DSLR lenses. So they turn around & leave, think that the store(s) are "gouging" people with the prices, and so some decide to just stick with their smartphone since "it takes incredible photos...gosh even better than the bigger cameras!" (Pfffft, yeah right, go ahead, stick with your smartph...bahahahaha!) I get it, mirrorless have their advantages, but for decades, people INCLUDING professionals shot the best photos, including famous photos & they amazed people back then & STILL look fantastic. If you can afford it AND/OR you can make use of all the functions AND take the time to learn the mirrorless fine. But the VAST majority of people buy a mirrorless body and A lens for now, but then can't afford to travel anywhere to go shoot photos, bcuz they can't afford it. Yet with a DSLR, I already own it, or can get a used body & an assortment of lenses, and STILL have $ left over to go on a nice trip somewhere to take photos...even if it's just within my own state or province, especially if I can drive there. Yet people have this mindset that DSLRs are undesireable, no good, sort of like point-n-shoot cameras. Howewver, film cameras are seeing a huge surge in popularity...and DSLRs are FAR superior to film in the quality of photos, and certainly the cost of film & processing is ridiculous! But hey, with mirrorless being the "ONLY" option for soooo many photograhers these days, it gives us DSLR photographers LOTS of inexpensive options for bodies to upgrade to, AND/OR to get another body, as well as a wide assortment of lenses, where we previous could not afford to do so. Then looking at our photos, how many people can tell if the photos were shot with a DSLR or mirrorless??? I know MANY photosgraphers use Lightroom and/or Photoshop, which makes it even harder to tell. Anyway, rather than fantasizing about getting mirrorless, how about you just go out and shoot LOTS of photos with whatever camera you got right now??
Thanks for sharing your experience with great comments...I am only a hobbyist at 79yrs of age & love my D500...I also kept my D7100 & just love using that as well.....I would sooner but better glass than pay so much for the mirrorless system... admittedly I love Nikon gear although there are some other great cameras around.... cheers 😀
