Ducati St4 Review - The Best Value Italian Tourer You Haven't Considered Yet! 

Fantastic bikes for sure, and still holding their value quite well 😁

You can pick them up super cheap now! Not sure why though, I actually really rate them🤔

I also have an BMW r1200s.rare and underated also

@@_Archambaud I had the K1200R for a while too, great bikes. But lots of issues on the early K1200 series bikes 🙄

Thanks for your comment John

Yes we covered this recently in a full video fitting guide on my Ducati Multistrada 1260s Although it IS normal for Ducati's to have slow cranking issues, and other big V-Twins.

@@Budget-Cars-And-Bikes it's only normal after things degrade

@@alfredwilson3915 well that's not true, I've had a LOT of Italian bikes, old, and almost brand new, and they ALL had slow slow cranking. It's just they way they are.

@@Budget-Cars-And-Bikes Glad you have covered this because it's definitely a Ducati engineering oversight leaving many wanting to kick their otherwise great Ducatis to the curb. Several times thinking it was a bad battery and or starter went down that rabbit hole only to find out after many hours - even a day or so of discover to learn that the stock start circuit cabling was tired and resistant loaded and dying from degradation. Here's a good one tho, a few months worth of great powerful immediate starts, after the starter rebuild and installing the HICAP kit, my also well worn Sprag Clutch assembly suddenly 100% quit. I replaced all of that stuff which is an afternoon plus about $500 to refresh all and my ST4 starts cold on the second revolution.....explodes to life before first revolution when warm.

Still One of my personal favourites too 🙂

Great way tyo get into Italian bikes on a budget this ST range, just need to change the clutch slave cylinder to an Oberon One, makes it much easier to ride, and no more sore wrist from changing gears :)

Thanks for your kind words

Really great way to get into Italian bikes, you can get a nice examle under £2500 right now. For comfort I would suggest getting the Oberon slave cylinder mod done though, as the clutch can be a bit tough on these, and cramps your wrist after a couple of hours. And a nice set of pipes to release the sound! Apart from that just make sure the belt changes and valve checks are up to date, and have fun!

Thanks for the comments Andrew, enjoy your ST4 and ride safe 😁

Thanks for the kind comments Paul 😁

Yes this really was a good find! I couldn't find another at this price I'm sure, used bike prices have gone a little crazy over the last 12 Months :/

Agreed :)

Thanks, no it was actually an easy job, less than an hour and it's a more sporty looking machine 🙂

Thanks for your kind words

thanks

@@edwardweiszbeck1649 Thanks 😁

One of the best bargain bikes I ever bought :)

Easily worth 3x the price, if not more.

I know they changed to a wet clutch on later models, but this One had the exact same sound as my 1000ss (which was a dry clutch) if I am right they changed to wet cluch in 2005. But I cant be 100% certain without asking on the forum :)

It is a wet clutch on his bike

My 2004 is dry clutch. The stock cover has been changed for an open cover. Your’s looks stock. 2005 going forward were wet clutch.

@@austinisfullpleasedontmove653 Erm... No it doesn't. It has a dry clutch.

It has a dry clutch. There's no mistaking that sweet sound. Just pull in the clutch lever and the "clattering" stops. People put open covers on their clutches to increase the sound, but standard they sound exactly like this.

No not wet belts

@@Budget-Cars-And-Bikes Then they're fine to just sit for 5 years before oxidation gets them. The 2 year thing I think is more to do with how they expect you to ride the bike.

@@233kosta The 2 Year belt change was introduced when belts were far more fragile than they are now, as you say..... with the reinforced belts made now, 5 Years should be no problem. But it will hurt the re-sale if you go that way I guess 🙃

I think I remember seeing that modification on the forum, (Assuming you mean the Twin headlights) but as you say, if you can find One for sale! Thanks for your comment :)

Thanks for your kind words

Thanks for your kind words

Thanks for the comment Tony, the Mileage discrepancy is due to a dash change at Ducati due to a failure, not in my ownership, but I did see the invoice and job sheet, and I even called the dealer to make sure it was legitimate. I NEVER trust Mileage, and make sure I always do the proper checks, even on a cheaper car or bike :)

I always felt it wasn't quite as it should be, it just looked and felt wrong? so it's good to know it's not just my imagination. Thanks for your comment :)

Thanks for your kind words

Thanks for your kind words

Here in the UK we tend to use Harpic see the link below, it's really good for these kind of things, just make sure to wear a mask and gloves, as it's VERY toxic, just brush it on (or wipe with a cloth) leave it for a few minutes and then rinse it off, the results are amazing! - eBay number is 353112406889 for an example :)

Have you tried Jason at JP Motorworx in Par? He's very good with bikes, and reasonably priced too 😉

@@Budget-Cars-And-Bikes no, but I’ll head over there next time I need some work doing. Thankyou 👍

@@Nick-Emery no problem 😉

@@shanegrimsley5067 Good to know Shane 😉

That's a tough question, both bikes can be troublesome, and both have issue's with known problems, but I do prefer a V-Twin to a 4 cylinder bike, so for me it would be the Ducati I think :)

@@Budget-Cars-And-Bikes Thanks. I'm in doubt: ST3 or K1200r sport .... I had a 750ssc and a Cagiva Gran Canyon with the 900ie engine, and after that an FJR. And I do like the twins more, too.

@@rickrides8352 Maybe also consider if you have either a BMW or Ducati service centre near you? as it can be a pain to have to ride too many Miles just to get something fixed. I like the Boxster BMW engines, but just not sure about the 4 Cylinder engines, Although if power is a thing you like, the BMW K1200R has plenty of that, but the Ducati gets more looks, and has more character. If you decide on the K1200, just make sure the shaft drive has been serviced when it should be, and check the paint on engine and shaft drive, they almost always have issue's there. Make sure the fuel gauge works 100% another known fault and around 200 Euro to fix! :)

@@Budget-Cars-And-Bikes Yep, got 2 ducati dealers/centres AND a BMW dealer nearby, so that won't be a problem. The power is not so much a thing; I want to buy a 2nd bike to do more riding with a pillion (that's why I've been thinking about a GS as well, but half the world already rides a GS ...)

Depending on mileage and service history, then yeah sounds like a bargain! 😀

@@Budget-Cars-And-Bikes I'm in Bulgaria atm, doubt I'll get a folder full of receipts (most people still do as much as they can on their own around here), but she looks well looked after in the pictures, not even a fart can on her. Plus, at ~30k miles, I don't think there's that much to go wrong.

@@233kosta My advice at these miles would be to get the Desmo done as soon as you get it, unless there are some invoices, valve clearance checks are a must on Italian bikes, and there is no way to know about fork oil, spark plugs, filters etc etc, you can check the belts pretty easy, but they are only £100 a set now, and a couple of hours work 😁

@@Budget-Cars-And-Bikes I found a well-reviewed Ducati specialist near the seller, I'll have the bike checked out and get an estimate for the work that needs doing. I don't expect it'll add up to more than £2000 total (bike + work). That's assuming the seller agrees to having it inspected by the specialist, and I can get said specialist to come in on a Saturday 🤣

@@233kosta Good Luck! let me know how it all goes 😁

@@shanegrimsley5067 Absolutely 😁

Thanks for your input :)

Thanks :)

Great! :)

OK Then ;)

UK

I have lots to be proud of 😁

Yes indeed :)