@@justjake3977 My lappy with benders was the reason I'm in a band. We just shot our second video. My bending is featured heavily in the songs. So....GOOD!
Troy, Man, there’s so much great and useful stuff here. Thank you for doing this. It’d be great to meet ya & swap lever lapsteel ideas in person sometime! Hands down best “getting started” “lever Steel” video out there. Would love to see more😀
Martin Heath I bought a dimavery lap steel which in the U.K. cost £115 - it’s way better than my Quincy which the same as Harley Benton as it has an alloy nut, shielded pickup rout and decent pickup. It seems to be the same as a Gretsch electromatic lap steel minus the Gretsch single coil lap steel pickup and hand rest. I’ve put a dusenberg multibender on it and in total it still cost less than the Gretsch !
@@vinnieirvine1365 thinking of doing something similar myself, glad to hear it works. Any issues with the nut and tuning stability. Think the expensive duesenberg uses a roller nut
David Hawkins None whatsoever- the alloy nut works well. A roller nut seems a great idea. But when setting up the bender ( there’s a lot of tweaking to get the pitch correct on depressing the lever) and it returns to pitch fine and as long as the strings have stretched and settled I’ve had no issues at all.
Thanks, Troy, for a great posting. Loads of great, usable information. I have these palm pedals on my dobro and am just getting started with them. I started of in standard dobro tuning and used the return springs to tune down to the changes, but open d is definitely the way to go. By the way, if you include the 3rd string (without the bender) and used the 2nd string bender you get the full minor triad 5, R, 3, or you can go strings 4.3.2 and bend up from flat7 to root of the minor on string 2. A nice, simple arpeggio. Thanks again. This video really helped me think things through.
so there is actually 3 chords you can get on 1 fret lol i thought 2 chords on the 1 fret in the key of G was cool (Minor or major chords depending on which strings you choose)....oh i cant wait to get these benders and install them and the learn off you Troy you teach so well and easy to understand...sounds awesome i cant wait!
Excellent demo. I was wondering if I should use D9 but this sounds great. I think I’d struggle with D9 so hearing what you have done with open D has helped me decide I’ll stick to open D. The techniques in this video are golden. I will refer to this tutorial over again now I have put multibenders on my lap steel
Hi Troy - you mention running your signal through a Sarno Black Box, volume pedal, etc. What was the signal chain for this video, please? This video was very helpful and informative - thank you!
I'm going to ask a question that will seem stupid (I'm a bass player) I see that one of the benders is higher than the other. Is this an adjustment for your playing comfort and hand positioning or is it an adjustment in terms of tone, the higher one would have more amplitude and therefore more effect/impact on the tone of this specific string ? I watched another video of yours on adjusting the front/rear screws and I'm having trouble understanding the adjustments. Best regards, Arnault.
Oh yeah, my wife would kill be if I spent $2,500 on a Duesenberg lap steel. I've seen some for $699 on Ebay that have the two benders like the Duesenberg. Not sure of the sound quality though...
2nd string bender is up two steps, right? so on top three strings you got: b-d-g -> b-e(^2)-g correct? but that's I to the vi, not the IV. Or am I missing something?
Viktor Kaganovich no you’re exactly right, you should really engage both benders to go from 1 to 4. But the 4 and 6 chords are very similar, a 4 chord is 4,6,8 (8 same as 1, so 4,6,1..). where a 6 chord is 6,8,10..(6,1,3). If you lean into one lever and then the other you can get many cool licks over that change, and you can similarly release them the same way.
Nice video. I have been playing pedal steel for years, but this interests me for use for gigs that I don't want the "big rig" (I also play guitar). How about some in-depth examples of just playing using both of the benders? Many thanks and keep up the good work!!
Thanks! I used to think the same thing. I've been at lap style slide now since about 2007. It's a fun quest to try to get everything better in tune, better in time, etc. I still listen back and hear lots of errors and things I wish I could do better, but I just gotta keep inching my way to what I wish it would sound, and try to be happy with where I'm at too.
@@LessonsWithTroy Hi Troy, that's interesting to know. I have been playing guitar for decades now, being interested mainly in Rock, Blues and Jazz and getting sort of "decent" at it. But over the years I've often felt increasingly attracted by the music of Dobro, slide and steel guitar players, "historic" and contemporary alike. Unfortunately, however, I've always felt so intimidated, when I think of actually making a try and finally going for it myself. People like you tend to make me want to give it a chance - even if it's the results of 12 years of dedicated study that we hear in your playing...
How do I find the charts that go with this lesson? Do I need to purchase the lesson? happy to do that, but unclear how to do that.... thanks in advance
I think I mention it in the video. It's a Kemper with a Michael Britt profile of a '67 Fender Deluxe Reverb. Tone settings are pretty much all at 12 o'clock.
Since pedal steel guitars use an E tuning, why do you use a D tuning? I have this same question for bluegrass players on Dobro guitars? Why? "Inquisitive minds want to know".
Thats the one I am using for my Beard Dobro and with a touch of delay. Have my eyes set on a Duesenberg Fairtale for my first lap steel......saving up my dimes for one LOL. thanks for the reply Troy.!
Each open tuning offers various benefits and adding the string benders opens them up even more. Palm levers on a C6 as just as much versatility too :) You asl can retune to a lot of tunings from a C6 set, so keep that in mind too!
For that price you might as well get a single neck pedal steel and be able to do it all instead of pretending you're playing a pedal steel. Just sayin'
To each their own. I hear what you're sayin', but it's nice not having to lug around a pedal steel to gigs. This thing has it's own thing going on too.
Hi Troy. First, thank you so much for posting! I have been a guitar player for over 50 years but as a result of severe nerve damage from a motorcycle crash in 2016, I can't fret with my left hand. I'm thinking about lap steel as an option to traditional guitar. I don't have the $$ for a Dusenberg like yours. Is there another option for an instrument that offers the same features for under $1,000?
If you're just wanting a Lap Steel, there's a sorts of ones out there for pretty cheap. Old Supro's are really cool! Also, you can buy the Benders from Duesenberg separately and put them on a cheaper lap steel.
the multibender for elect guitar has adj. saddles while the multibender for lap steel has straight saddle. wat-a-crok! doesn't duesenberg know that lap steels need compensated bridge also? i recommend you replace yer multibender with the adj saddle part, or buy the entire multibender part aftermarket.
I don't know whether the bender makes any difference but I've had a LOT of lap steels - Rickenbacher, Fender, Supro, Cole Clarke, a handbuilt one - and not one of them has had a compensated bridge.
Lap steels do NOT use or need a compensated bridge. You tune your steel to whatever chord you're using (e.g., open D would be D-A-D-F#-A-D). You tune that open chord to be perfectly in tune. Look at a pedal steel -- same thing. The string all 'break' over a roller bridge, which is straight across.
@@lapdawg60 it is 'more' in tune with compensated bridge. i notice a huge difference in sharpness (accuracy) of chords. no diff in single string at all, with compensation one can play 3 strings and achieve a believable musical chord-not so with straight bridge. most players are out of tune to my ear, to each his own i guess. put it on a tc clip on tuner which is accurate to 1/20 cent and see it is out of tune if you think it is in tune. nothing is perfect but i say straight bridge is junk. i deserve better closer to 'in tune' than a straight bridge. use vibrato to disguise the fact that it is out of tune, that is what the deniers do...