Doom 2016: example of a sequel that is treated with care from the original. Duke Nukem Forever: example of a sequel that abuses the franchise put together.
+That Guy Doom 4 was set to become even worse than Duke Nukem Forever since the original version looked like some boring rebellion war shooter. Thankfully, they learned from that and scrapped it, resulting in something that truly feels like Doom. It wasn't perfect, the arena shooting got repetitive after a while, but it was still high octane action, something DNF lacks a lot of the time.
@@colinj5291 maybe it wasn't the greatest year for games, but there were still good ones. I thought rage was really good, Deus ex human revolution was one of the best games of last gen, dark souls came out which is a masterpiece, Skyrim came out which is ok but barely an rpg, portal 2 is amazing, and saints row 3 is dumb fun. Those are just the games off the top of my head so there could be others.
Only Doom. The new Wolfenstein are not that great either. I think Bethesda really surprised people this time making the game the way it's supposed to be, with a balance of nostalgic gameplay and modern elements.
Entropy3ko Compared to DNF, new Wolfenstein is still a good game, that reminded you those good old times of Wolfenstein 3D and was fun to play. Duke haven't do either.
I came back to rewatch this review for a laugh. That line from Joe really jumped out at me. He wants Randy Pitchford to bail out this franchise? Yeah, good luck with that.
Late Game Reviewer Nah, man. On DIG (damn im good difficulty) the game will just be even more new school since then you have to hide from the fight even more because you die from just few shots. That is just dull imo because moving while dealing with the situation (kicking alien ass) is the most fun thing to do. I don't ever think it's a good idea to have duke freakin nukem hiding behind cover waiting for health to magically reappear. Weapon limit to 4 weapons is not enough. This is DUKE NUKEM we're talking about, not cod or halo and thus you have to have 10 weapons at your disposal..
Yeah and I remember in the old duke nukem you could go around the mission and do stupid stuff like take a piss or admire yourself in the mirror, or drink water from a water fountain, or drink a beer to raise your health bar, that's why I say the whole recharging health bar was a bad idea because now I have no motive to search throughout the map for health packs and secret things anymore like the Real duke nukem would
Jeremy Lebron These two facts make me believe that I will actually love this game. Because that is the reason why I loved Bioshock Infinite over the original.
What Happen to all the badass FPS character's? Duke Nukem got lazy & gets drunk with 1 can of beer. Master Chief now only cares about money. Serious Sam disappeared all the sudden. & B.J. Blazkowicz died which is Bullshit! This is when Doomguy said "......." & brought all of this back!
I just played this not to long ago on the ps3 bought it for a dollar and my gosh!!! This game aged terribly!!!! I'm not a huge graphics type guess I'm a hypocrite when it comes to this game but the gameplay is just so bland like it's trying to be like cod and halo, I mean it quite obvious that what they were trying to do. I should of played it on pc maybe that would enhance the graphics but in the end it's bleh.
My first day of work, money I earned for the first time that wasn't chores or delivering newspapers. Sure it was just a corner shop, but money I earned. I came hope at just after 10pm and Steam was turnednon and I saw this was released at midnight. Armed with a case of beer I spent my first days work on beer and this. I regret nothing.
I recently went back and started watching old Joe reviews. Sound cutting off has happened to at least 3 of them. So I think you are right about the copyright claim.
@@odie85 due to the youtube change with music he took them out or take the entire video the lion sleeps tonight song ruined it oohweemuemway as joe calls it
I think it is a good amount of horror movie pop figures that have used the same as a vinyl display for the late response to a collection that's not 6I for a while and I still want to do it up there for like a few weeks ago
Yeah it's called getting older, as you age your metabolism slows down and just due to certain lifestyle or whatever, especially his type of work where he's always on his computer editing and reviewing games it's pretty much inevitable that you will gain a little bit of weight.
12:09 I'm so glad I'm not a feminist, or else my rage levels would be off the chart. I think Ride to Hell: Retribution had more respect for women than this game appears to, at least going by this review. It's pretty hard to get over the wall boobs and the raped, impregnated screeching damsels crying for their daddy and exploding as aliens burst out of them. That is some serious nightmare fuel...
Karpov Liam of course not That's not violence! I mean if she was being brutally murdered then that's gaming fun Jk but in all seriousness that's how people be like in gaming
My husband loves this game. I've had to listen to hours and hours of this shit in the other room. Ugh. I played Duke Nukem 3d as a kid. But seriously, fuck this shit. The sex jokes aren't funny, there are no easter eggs (Edit, ok there are no GOOD easter eggs. TECHNICALLY there are, but they're not really secret). That's basically all there is to Duke, and they FUCKED IT UP.
Charles Davis I wouldn't give me much credit for like, picking a good game or anything, I was 8 when Duke Nukem 3d came out, at that age you're really just gravitating towards glowing colors. I also played some awful shit. Plus he really doesn't care about games (not like I do), he's very (ugh) casual. So the gamer thing isn't a big attraction for him, more a source of conflict than anything else ; P But sure, I'll take a compliment : )
Katy Wiggins I know the feeling. I can list off a fair number of old NES games I got solely from the cover art, thinking tey'd be cool, but only to find they SUCKED.
+Karl Schultz Yes because of how hyped the game was, because even if it could not live up to it the game should have been much better, and because of the controversy where Duke was so offensive even for him that fans and reviewers were sickened, it will take twelve or thirteen years to get over it.
You know, I went back to my old N64 just recently to check out something to see if I just dreamed it or not, Joe. And I was not. In the old Duke Nukem game when you came across a girl in an alien pod, you had the chance to either kill or free her from the pod. And at the end of the level you have a counter of how many girls you saved on that level. I am wondering where in the world happened to that ability or choice?? I played many Duke Nukem games and in most you had this choice of saving the girls but in the last few ones that I played, that option or choice was removed. I don't get it, for now all they want to do is make Duke look more of an ass than the savior of the girls.
Since the vast overwhelming majority of games use the PC version of Duke Nukem 3D as their basis... That's why. You couldn't free the girls in that game, or really any of it's expansions. Duke Nukem 3D was a massive departure for the franchise too, since it started as a pretty bland pair of PC-DOS side scrolling shooters. So the reason you can't save the Girls in DNF is because you couldn't save them in Duke Nukem 3D. None of the console games were developed by 3D Realms, neither were most of the Duke Nukem 3D expansions, so they never implemented a "save the chicks" mechanic to start with.
Natsume-Hime It is a shame that option is no longer a factor within DN anymore. For that fact, a few games with a save option in the past is no longer there in their newer releases.
Personally, I prefer being able to save them. It has more of a heroic feeling to it, which isn't that what Duke is? Duke Nukem Zero Hour integrated it in fairly well with the captured babes even talking about how they'll repay you as you save them.
@@natsume-hime2473 The reason why you couldn't save the babes at the time was because of the era of tech, when duke 3d was ported to the n64 that feature was implemented which even included a counter of how many babes you saved. DNF portrayed Duke in the worst way possible and completely switch the tone of the charming badass action hero to the ego stroking sociopath, when you kill a babe in duke 3d Duke will say something like "dam" in a really bummed out tone, when you kill a babe in dnf Duke doesn't say a word.
I’ll be honest. I’m 35 now but back then obviously I was younger. But…. I grew up with the ORIGINAL Duke. And I liked this game. Haha. I let my expectations level and went in not knowing anything. Yes there was some crap in it. But for the most part, I liked this game.
You know when a game is bad, when even a mod of duke3d called duke nukem forever that recreates the moments from the 2001 trailer awesome is a pretty good game, a mod! And also I recommend you check it out, look up "duke nukem forever 2013", you won't regret playing it!
Dammit, it really sucks that Joe had to mute the audio of the Duke Nukem theme at the beginning. I miss the days when YT wasn't like that and any music could be played in any video for any reason! DAMMMITTTTTT!!!!!!
Duke Nukem Forever is Brooks' Law personified: adding programmers late in a software project makes it later. If George Broussard had not been a perfectionist and stuck with either the Quake II or Unreal engine, DNF may have been a fun game. Good gameplay can forgive bad graphics, but good graphics can never forgive bad gameplay.
"Good gameplay can forgive bad graphics, but good graphics can never forgive bad gameplay." This is well beyond true, just take in the fact the boomer shooters are still being made! 3D Realms recently made Ion Fury, Dusk was recently released, Nightmare reaper, Prodeus, Amid Evil, Doom Eternal, and even more are being made and you know what? These games are awesome and at least most of them don't have eye stunning graphics.
The problem with this game is that it does not know what it wants to be...half of the game is occupied by mediocre puzzle sections, and shootouts are relatively short.
DooM Eternal: Godlike gameplay, badass character, and one excessively memorable line. Duke Nukem Forever: Shit gameplay, a chimpanzee of a man, and endless excessively overdone jokes of lines.
There is something called target demographic, this game is made for Men, Now i am not defending it, The jokes were lame, the voice acting felt fake, in overall this game's humor is painful ... At least for me. with a mix of bad gameplay,framerate.graphics this is a truly horrible game, And then again that's my opinion.
The game was written and story boarded by two women down to every line Duke says, so yeah not every girl has to be sugar and spice bullshit, some girls like making dick jokes and taking the pies as much if not more than most dudes do.
***** Very true, it's good case for the evolution of FPS but I don't think it was necessarily garbage. It had that old school shoot and strafe gameplay like Duke 3D, Quake, Unreal Tournament etcetc which is very rare these days. Nothing can excuse the two weapon limit though - that was just uncalled for.
RU-vid loves to go back to old videos and copyright strike for music. Joe must’ve gone back and muted the parts where RU-vid claimed there was copyrighted music, in this case it was Grabbag.
@@chainingsparks7655 I'm pretty sure he does, doesn't change the fact that Mirror's Edge already DID exist as a First Person Platformer before this video came out.
"Duke would NEVER do that! Duke would say, man FUCK your puzzle!" Exactly! I wish someone remade this shit and made it the Duke we all know and love. Then again, I fear it might be filled with micro transactions or something...
Bikini Lagoon The DNF we got was actually just Gearbox taking some of the original ideas and just tossing a finished game out the window. Ironically, 3D Realms really used to do armament research. They actually had a former marine on staff as a game dev when they made Duke 3D, Blood and Shadow Warrior.
The first angry review I ever saw. I hated this game and this review was spot on. Years and years later... Still a fan. I'm glad you're still rockin Joe.
Audio keeps cutting out on all these old videos because RU-vid is stupid with its copyright crap. 😑 yes, I understand how copyright works, but jesus christ this is ridiculous.
I just can't agree with wall bewbs and rape thingy. Not sure for bewbs but cocune thingies were also in 3D and the whole Dukes lore is that aliens kidnap our women to reproduce. That being said, I like that they didn't tone it down for kids. Also come on, BEWBS ^^,
Will Lu Family guy isn't even bad though, it's just a bunch of unfunny shitty jokes no one laughs at, it's also washed up. So yes, it's like the family guy of gaming (at least now)
Dan Devious Seriously? This is a game about a dude that talks in pop culture referance... How old are you for taking it seriously? It's not some high fucking art.
Surely we're overdue a Duke Nukem reboot at this point? 10 years and no murmurs of a potential reboot, nothing? If they did it well, it would sell shit loads surely?
Good, I'm glad some people did (no, I'm not being sardonic). But for the cash they asked for the game and the wait I really expected better - not the stupidly overblown levels of the hype but at least the equivalent of what they were charging, £40. There's a free mod based on the older engine (Duke Nukem 3d 2013) which is apparently better, so I'm off to try that - if you enjoyed this version, maybe try to give it ago? :)
Jo Yelland I might give it a shot, thanks for telling me about it. And about the cash, I'm not really upset about it. I paid 60$ for it, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, so I'm happy.
I too enjoyed the game. Although I can understand why many people don't. Maybe I'm in denial? Ah, who cares. I just hope for a sequel that everyone can love!
Honestly I remember constantly playing the demo to this game back in the day on my PS3. IDK why but for some reason this game was just fun to play and the little RC racing subsection of the demo level was interesting and unique. I never played the old Nukem games tho so maybe that affected my opinion .
@@AnthonyDoesRU-vid you're not wrong for enjoying the game but the game does have some glaring problems which is what angry Joe was trying to point out. But like I said, if you like the game, that's perfectly fine
+TheDreReichDude after 3D SACKED IT why does every autistic faggot forget this ???? its like the makers of cod say fuck it we give up... a new non dev company takes over and people go : 3 YEARS AND WE GET THIS SHIT>?????? what did you expect >.> seriously fucking tell me....
If they want to make a good Duke Nukem game, go the Doom 2016 route. The whole premise is cheesy so why try to play it up as being any kind of serious? Just go with high octane action and make it as cheesy as possible, Duke Nukem was a parody of action movies, just make it as ridiculous as humanly possible. DNF seemed like it was trying to take a somewhat serious route as well as trying to do several things at once. Some say Duke's personality just isn't funny anymore but that's not it at all, you can still make Duke hilarious, just give him the right direction and play up the hamminess.
Dan Root 3d realms should have released it the way it was. They were the best in making shooter games. I'm really broken to see that we never received the Duke Nukem Forever from 2001. Did 3d realms got bankrupt or were they too obsessed to make it too good to milk out more money?
+Yo BoyBHD Its not wellmade, at all. Not one thing besides duke's voice feels like DukeNukem. The 1 way to go thru a level is bs, i miss the mazes and finding keycards, and having to blow up walls to make a way thru secret stuff, i cant go the wrong way, its impossible. Yay for drone games =/ Also why is it beer and not steroids, people are soft
@@supermariofan03 It's greedy and disgusting, hand the IP over to 3D Realms because the franchise is already forgotten except by fans and it needs an awesome reboot.
@@Pcgamingfixes I dont think is happening. From what I heard, the Duke Nukem IP is under a hostile hostage by Gearbox. Now why they want it despite not doing anything in 9 years, as of 2020, is beyond me.
I have never once, in my entire life playing games, thought to myself; "Hey! This turret section is reeeally fun!" No, every time i am playing a game and one comes up, I groan in frustration.
Asskickingman TCBY Spec Ops; The Line, it had a good turret section, but it was a very strange feeling you got during it and I'm not talking about the one that starts the game this was quite far in. It wasn't bad it was horrible but not in a broken game mechanic way it was ... horrifying would perhaps be the right word. Anyway if you get the chance play the game, it is ... fantastic is the wrong word. Well lets just say its fantasticly horrifying.
My instant reaction to your comment was 'Wait, THERE'S A SPACE ODYSSEY GAME?!?!' I'm an idiot. But yes, I would rather play the 2001 version than go through what we actually got.
Doom Slayer doesn't need to boast like Duke, he lets his actions do all the talking. I know Duke 3D Duke had some cheese but I feel he didn't kiss his own ass anywhere near as much as he does in Forever. Gearbox should tone it down a bit, make him less ego stroking and more badass.
Which demonstrates a good point. Some things DNF did that was shit on..yet the widely acclaimed Doom 2016 does some of the exact same stuff and people are like: celebrations!!!
***** Yeah, why would we need to play the game when this review clearly shows the nonsensical bullshit the game has and thus makes people realize it's not worth anything.
***** No, the reviews that people like Joe do show off a lot of the gameplay. And in this game's case, the gameplay was completely and utterly terrible. Reviews are there for people to decide the worth of the game. They can listen to the reviewer and their opinions, or decide from what is presented whether it is worth their time.
***** True, just like this game doesn't meet today's standards. Most FPS games have a much more in depth story and better graphics, like Crysis. This game, as best said by joe, is "a generic FPS game with a Duke Nukem paint job". A great example of an old shooter being remade is Shadow Warrior. The game, while being extremely more different and advanced than the original, still keeps root to some of the originality. You still play Lou Wang, just younger and more dialogue is there. That game is an example of what Duke Nukem Forever should have been. But, it is in the past. And the best way for us to go is to learn the mistakes from this game so they won't be made again.
***** Also, I noticed you play this game a lot on your channel, especially on your first angry rant video. Well said on the video. So it seems you do have a bias towards this game clearly seen in this comment section and the videos.
Gearbox sucks. They're a one trick pony. They make Borderlands and tons of spin offs of it. But Duke and Aliens blew hardcore. Everything else they touch sucks.
+Good'ol Gaming Sorry for the late reply. All main Serious Sam games are good (yes, even Serious Sam 2). Though the first 2 levels are kind of a letdown in Serious Sam 3, it picks the pace right after that and never slows down. Serious Sam The Second Encounter will always be my favorite Serious Sam game, with Serious Sam 2 right behind it, then Serious Sam 3, then Serious Sam The First Encounter.
***** Okay there buddy, lay off the caps and chill, alright. I'm not comparing Serious Sam to Duke Nukem. I'm just saying Duke Nukem Forever could've been a better game.
I was kinda sad it failed. Duke Nukem is fkn hilarious and his deal is a cliche self-aware hyper masculine alpha soldier. He's a god fearing christian but he has Major vices (which he indulges in regularly) but he also protects innocence like an uber white-knight on crack. Going on rampages regularly for revenge. There was a lot of sexy and gorey and glorious things and avenues they could've gone, but it was more a pre-teen style game in the end. "What the _fuuuck_ is this." as the Duke would say.
Joe was spot on in the beginning of Duke fans buying Balls of Steel edition....god-damn Gearbox really twisted a knife in my ribs, can't believe I defended those Gearbox jerk-dicks on the Aliens: Colonial Marines fiasco.
7 years later, and not a sign of another Duke game in sight. I pre-ordered this game for 50€ back then, and it quickly dropped to 5€ in various bargain bins. It's downright shameful to see Duke end up this way.
Duke, by today's standards, is unacceptable in the eyes of the public. The concepts of Duke would cause public outcry about misogyny and female objectification. So really, even if they WANTED to bring Duke back, they COULDN'T. No matter what they did, it would be received poorly. If they changed Duke to be in-line with today's standards, hardcore fans would be like, "That's not Duke". But if they kept the Duke we know from the past, they would get BASHED by the public and face legal trouble up the ass. Duke sadly has no place in today's day and age.
Serious Sam is not Old School FPS. It's parody of Old School FPS because it makes over the top DOOM game due to enemy amount and focus being killing only instead of exploring non-linear levels and stuff.
Serious Sam was a great game but it was totally made as an obvious parody of Duke3D. If there was a "king" of old school fps games it would have to be Quake. There are games still being played today that use the Quake engine. Best example would be the original Counter-Strike.
Oh please don't start this fucking thing when you start saying " OHHH, I MISS IT WHEN HE WAS LIKE THIS" guess what buddy he's still like this, so get your head screwed on right.
Watching this episode again in late 2020, and noticed that the music during the intro was muted. Props to AJ for taking their time to do this do prevent getting copyright strike, and big F U to does corporate A-holes
Even IF the company was to sell the rights to Duke, the very concept of Duke is too outdated for the 2020s. PC culture has thoroughly permeated (though I prefer the word "infested") society, and Duke's views on women are simply no longer acceptable.
