Apocalypse now 1979 Blade runner 1982 Terminator 1984 Dune 1984 I was in my 20's, fascinated by these movies and their soundtracks ! No nostalgia, just awesome memories. Thank for sharing this soundtrack.
Same here. I loved Apocalypse Now in 1979, when I was 17. And I enjoyed Dune in 1984. Watched it several times since. I'm watching it all over again before it leaves Netflix in September 2023, and I appreciate it more now that before. And I love this piece of music from it.
I was born in 79 and 4 in 84" 12/12/79 so I watched this with my dad who was the cable guy for rte he hooked up the whole of Dublin 10 and there was peace 😌⚡🙌🤓🇮🇪
I didn't realize just how much I liked Brian Eno until I found out he wrote this Prophecy theme. I've watched the original Dune movie so many times and, to this day, this theme is still mesmerizing to listen to and adds so much depth and fascination to Paul's messianic destiny. Just beautiful and timeless.
I might be crazy, because I could swear I heard hints of the old main theme throughout the new Dune! or maybe my mind was filling the gap left by that bizarre throat chant the movie opened with
I thought the score was good, it created the tension it needed. That being said it’s not something I’m going to put my headphones on and listen to. Brian Eno”s music transports the listener into another world. So lonely yet beautiful.
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." ~ Frank Herbert
I'll miss the sea, but a person needs new experiences. They jar something deep inside, allowing him to grow. Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.
i agree, moving away from the coast, i remember this , having said that, if you have ever been taken away from the shore, you will empathise with the atreides
Bro I was watching the extended cut of dune 1984 to specifically hear this theme and learn more about the context but its not even in it! And if that's not enough, the movie sucks too. Denni's good, lynch's bad.
@@trueromani7262 There is a fan edit on YT of Dune 1984 that adds in loads of cut scenes and lost footage. There is also added dialogue to flesh everything out. It's like the version David Lynch wanted to release. It's the most complete version out.
I love this theme. It captures the universe of Arrakis (Dune). It’s dreamy and eerie maybe even beautiful. A great piece of work by Brian Eno he definitely captures the whole atmosphere of it and the concept in general.
parts of the Zimmer soundtrack had hints of the 1984 soundtrack... so I kept expecting to hear it, and was sadly disappointed. There is no comparison... I searched for years to find the 1984 dune soundtrack in stores.... I only had a tape recording I made from a record I borrowed from the library. Oddly enough, I listened to the tape recording so much, I missed hearing the the little ticks from the record recording mixed in with the soundtrack when I would listen to the CD. I really hope someone re scores the new Dune with the 1984 soundtrack if possible. Best of both worlds.
Agreed the 1984 music is wonderful glorious and also to me evokes the terrifying vastness and mystery of the universe Listen and let yourself drift through eternity Genius
When this music started in the film it was like it was making me think of prophets from the Bible like lynch set it up with eno to hit like something new you recognize as familiar. Like the total insane power of being chosen by destiny to be the messiah of a people is such a crazy thing that this weird eerie foreboding and scary music is the only way to communicate that power coming to fruition.
It was used by Troika for a post-apoc game that was never developed. They made a demo using this theme and the track fit like a velvet glove (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NvgSGxNTADI.html). I think I want this track to be played at my funeral, together with Rhubarb by Aphex Twin. I want everyone to feel bad and cry their guts out. I'm worthy.
Used to watch this movie a lot with my father before he passed away. Naturally when I listen to this now it makes me feel sad plus the current situation as well only amplifies that feeling of sadness.
Our memories etched into song is such an incredible ability. Your father will always be with you because music can never be taken away from us. This made me cry reading your words and I want you to know how touching it was for you to share such a raw memory paired with emotion.
My father was the one who gave me the book. And then VHS with the movie. He's gone now for two years, but his water is still with me. Sending virtual hug and hold on... they never really leave. One day we'll meet again.
@@cassattack "....music can never be taken away from us." This is sooooo true. My mother suffered with dementia for years. She lost skills, ability to perform tasks, names and faces, eventually even the ability to form coherent sentences, then her vocabulary was reduced to a three year old's. But MUSIC! A lifetime of music listening, playing and appreciating was literally bonded in her essence so well that it was the only thing not lost. Our last visit was Christmas Day. We took family photos and sang Christmas songs and played classical music. She knew all the verses better than me, still. She passed in January, and the music and memories are forever.
Legend has it he did but it was replaced by Toto's score, there are some bits of music in the film not composed by Toto that sound very similar to Brian's work, it's believed to be from that score.
They were grossed out by the, let's say, earthier elements. It requires a higher sensibility that sees the beauty of meaning even in the arbitrarily meaningless and disgusting. Furthermore, one comes to appreciate the contrasts Lynch was trying to portray aesthetically. Lastly, there remains a camp of people who simply do not get it at all. Why? Because Dune is a religious movie that rests on certain philosophical premises that you can't understand if you weren't raised with them. For example, the people of the religious traditions that make sense out of Lynch's actual messianic Muad'dib (very very different from Herbert's largely politically fraudulent Muad'dib) are used to thinking about life as, 1) evolutionary, that humanity is evolving teleologically; and 2) that the human being is evolving toward divinity -- the convergence of the will with the natural laws of nature. This is an easy leap for someone raised in a Christian environment with the god-man Jesus archetype everywhere in their lives, it is even easier when you superimpose that image on a multicultural scientific society much concerned with universality and science fiction and material possibilities and progress. And yet even easier when you combine that with a sense of totally comprehensive natural destiny imparted by a meditative practice. Well, that was America in 1984, and it was David Lynch's deep personal experience, and those are the cultural prerequisites to understand the film. I have watched the movie with adult people who literally asked at the end, "How did he make it rain?!" They don't know what they don't know.
It's not a mystery it's a bad film. It murders the story of Dune. The film opens with a wall of text and multiple inner monologues. That's completely mental. Not even the director likes it. It's visually wonderful though.
After seeing some of the comments below, I think many of Dune's viewers got the point. And this theme, from Brian Eno, is one of the most mystical/spiritual sounding pieces. It always brings tears to my eyes, as if I am listening to a lost song from ancient of ancient times.
@@Pot-8-Toes you are looking at it from the wrong perspective. You have to look at it from a Lynch perspective. He tries to bury into your subconscious, which he does really well in this version of Dune.
100%. I absolutely love Dune 1984. I can watch Dune 1984 a million times and never tire of it. Lynch captured Dune's weirdness arguably better than Denis Villeneuve's version.
@@snowmansid I've actually listened to a few of their songs, nowhere near all, I know 5 I think, and thanks for telling me of the bad ones, I sometimes get discouraged or convinced that the music is not for me. Thanks :D
The longer directors cut that's four hours long is the best!!! They should have made this into two movies, movie exec's are sooooo stupid. Best Lynch ever..... He really did this story justice.
@@Yiroooo the movie for its time was very good but many of the interesting parts for depth of characters were not done unfortunately a big loser at the box office I truly doubt anyone currently worldwide could do better dialogue isn't governing filmmaking anymore cgi is tragically the best sci-fi with complex characters and action scenes is EXPANSE
it had been years since I saw Dune, and had forgotten how awesome the music was. Growing up listening to late night Ambient radio on Double J back then, this bring back so many memories The Sleeper has awoken.
Yep, the Ambient programme with Arnold Frollows on JJ .... it was the high point of the week, a couple of hours of Astral travelling every Sunday night. Loved it!
It was tripple J by the time I was listening to his brilliant ambient program. I live in the UK now but I'll never forget lying in my bed letting his selection wash over me.
I find it hard to believe that Dune was written in the 60's. It looks to the future on so many levels and covers such a wide expanse in the human story. Frank Herbert must have been a visionary genius no less!!
He extrapolated the political Situation on Earth. So for nearly everything in Dune there is a real World Counterpart. One of the Things that amazed me though was his Idea about Mentats - so he forsaw that Robots/AI will be developed, will stage a War against Humanity, Humanity will win that War (kinda the Scenario from Terminator) and all sorts of AI will be forbidden afterwards so Humans have to become as competent in Mathematics as AI was before... I thought for a while if he is in the same League as a SciFi-Prophet as Philip K. Dick. While he surely had an unusual Brain and great Thoughts and was highly intelligent he might have not forseen the Future like Dick did. So I value his Work very high yet Dick seems to be the greater Prophet to me.
Carlos Fandango. He was most definitely operating on a higher level than most of us but is smart enough to dumb himself down enough to write something like we mere mortals can understand. You should just read the book man. Before the movie
@@Ezekielepharcelis It's not that simplifies. There was no war against the machines Terminator or even Matrix style . Our technology has simply reached a tipping point where we were really no longer needed for much of anything so upon becoming a type unnecessary, redundant afterthought to our technology, humanity began to fall into a state of complete apathy but lucky for humanity a segment of humanity saw what was happening, that being human extinction and what started as a philosophical, then political agenda exploded into violence and bloodshed.The Buliterian Jihad, the fanatics & their cause spread throughout the imperium and when it was all over the fanatics had won and said there's going to be new commandments if you will. The 1st and biggest, NO THINKING MACHINES. No A I. Which negated an enormous amount of our technology, including the highly advanced supercomputers that made the nano second course corrections on any given jump through space time or when they 'folded' space. Without that our empire would be lost, isolated from one another by vast distances of space. I mean you could chance it. We had already created the engine that did the actual space travel but it fell to computers to get us there safe. Without those computers you might run into a sun or some great rock in space
@@Ezekielepharcelis There's one gigantic, notable exception though, and I love what Phillip k. dick did for scifi but most of his work takes place in s not too distant future that is just a nudge or 2 from where we're at now. In the world of Dune we were supposed to have passed the technological state of most of the cyberpunk era literally thousands of years before the events of Dune rolls around. Herbert isn't writing about the year 2049 or 2160 . Herbert is writing about the year 10,1 91 and beyond. That's a pretty big difference
My favorite soundtrack of all time, it resonates with me like nothing else , it’s not meant to be ‘spa’ sounds to just relax to but more of a deep feeling it invokes which can be sadness, longing, awe of the universe. It’s meant to take the mind to places we might fear or refuse to see, vulnerability can be a good thing if we accept it. And maybe learn something about ourselves along the way
Dune makes me feel so small. Just the ideas behind it, the philosophy, it warps my mind. This music perfectly conveys that floating feeling, my own lack of understanding.
It's amazing how, after watching Dune: Part One and Two, I immediately went on to watch the David Lynch version. It feels like time unfolds differently in his film, the Lynch version is truly mesmerizing!
So much I love about this movie that keeps bringing me back. Imagine the solar system in 30,000 years if we manage to live off world! Races of people forging their own cultures and evolving separately. Eno encapsulates the sheer vastness of space and the suffering of the future generations.
"Tolerating oneself can be the hardest task in the universe" or so is what Duncan Idahos ghola repeated to Alia after saying it to Paul. For me this piece seems to reflect Pauls (and Alias) thought process of being trapped in the state of mind of knowing that no one can ever really understand you.
This is the film that deserves *not* to be lost or forgotten, even when the delayed-but-soon-expected one comes out. I'm sure it will be good. But *this* film from 1984, especially its music, should *not* be just cast aside! It was perfectly cast... *yes* including Kyle MacLachlan as Paul! {Look, he might not have looked *exactly* like he was 15 years old, like in the novel, but so what? He *did* look young enough to be a Duke's son, and he *did* act the role to absolute perfection.} And it was *also* perfectly scored. Who here can honestly say they remember much of anything from the music of that gawd-awful miniseries? *Either* of them? Yeah, well, not me either. I regard *this* 1984 production as one of the 10 best Science-Fiction films of all time; even with its two large flaws of 1.) The syrupy-sweet ending, ignoring Paul's anguish at his prescient knowledge of the bad things that would be done in his name, and 2.) It being almost impossible to take the Harkonnens seriously. It's still a fantastic film. Everything from the cinematography to the acting was otherwise splendid. Critics who disliked it were biased by their training and education. And I wouldn't change that for anything. They *have* to be educated in "the classics" to do their job properly. But that background makes them hopelessly biased against the entire genre of Sci-Fi, since it's oriented in the *other* direction, the future. Therefore, they should *never* be listened to when it comes to any work of that genre. Instead, refer to the counsel of true Science-Fiction fans. I do want to see the eventually-to-be-released updated movie. And I hope it's good, and that its music is good. But even if it's phenomenal, even if it's 10 times better than Director David Lynch's work from 1984, I *still* will always *also* want to steer peple towards *that* one every bit as much as this soon-expected one...or any other that may come after.
Timelord You're right in that many critics at the time, especially Gene Siskel, just didn't give the film negative reviews,they went far above and beyond their job description in their hatred for this film which tells me they had agendas. Be personal or financial or whatever, they had them. I loved this film when I was 11 or 12 & that was because I craved something more than Star Wars or Star Trek. I wanted hard sci fi, like ALIEN or
The production was a little bit cheesy, but the actors were superb. Kyle MacLachlan, Francesca Annis and Sean Young are perfect. Having read the book just before the film was released, I could have been disappointed, but I wasn't. The special effects were clearly behind, but it didn't matter too much because the actors' performances largely made up for it.
@@fixups6536 Actually some of the fx in the 1st hour were mind blowing. That shot of the entire House Atreides fucking with that massive heighliner was incredible and though dated now, those shield fx were actually one of the 1st digital cgi fx ever . Toward the end they were running out of money. I know 45 million was alot back in 84. Idk what it would be in today's dollars. My guess is something close to 110 to 125 million , but Villeneuve is getting 200 million to tell half the story. Quite a bit different situation.
I love Lynch’s version, yet it frustrates me at the same time, the first half is amazing, especially the set pieces. The second half feels like a highlights reel, the scenes are clipped and it feels like vital details are skipped over.
Africa and into Dakar where I felt ALIVE. Every time I hear this music it takes me back to then, a time where I felt so free from anything ever, a feeling of peace and tranquillity and more that is just indescribable in words, I am so happy to experience it with my best buddy, something that we will take to the heavens and beyond when our time is up. Live Life, Love Life...LIVE.
I was lying in the Desert listening to this and fell asleep. Upon awakening I found myself covered in Sand Trout. My Skin is not my own. I burrowed deep into the Sand and dreamed of Past, Present and Future Times for the rest of Eternity.
One of my favorite ambient pieces. Used to listen to this as a kid, playing the record (I still have it!), with my headphones on. So layered, dreamlike. Gives me a floating feeling...
That moment the bassiness (can't think of a better term) comes in at 0:47 gives me shivers and enraptures me, especially while listening with quality headphones
Apollo, atmospheres and soundtracks, is another gem by Eno. Klaus Schulze made an album inspired by and called Dune and a song called Frank Herbert in the album X.
I recorded this on a shitty cassette player off of Hearts of Space in, I dunno, 84 or 85 on a Sunday night? And went to sleep listening to it until I was old enough to drive. It's one of the top tracks on "The Soundtrack of My Life."
Hearts of Space. Was that in the same period as that other program, "Musical Starstreams"? I had a hard time with that show every time the host/announcer Forest came on with his ridiculous electronically manipulated voice. I kept asking, "Why?"
This piece is just one of the (if not the) most powerful, yet ethereal art piece, and as said below he managed to say it all in one piece. Brian Eno is practically the inventor of Shimmer reverb, which he achieved by serializing around $30.000 of hardware. Now you can find excellent quality software shimmer reverb plugins (ex: Valhalla Shimmer), for fifty bucks... 😁
Some of the eno stuff is cool but scenes of paul and Stilgar vigerously climbing upon and harnessing the power of the biggest cock...er phallic symbol in the universe set to TOTO' heavier tunes rock guitars was ridiculously out of place and should've been redone
Though the movie and soundtrack of Denis Villeneuve and Hans Zimmer are visually and artistically major accomplishments in their own right, I found that the new version really missed the mark on this sense of outer world mystic spirituality that Brian Eno was able to capture in his Prophecy Theme. I also felt that the symbolism used in Paul's dreams in Lynch's movie did a way better job conveying that idea of mystic spirituality, while the new film is more direct and to the point because they were afraid that audiences would not understand the plot. Lynch's movie had heart and soul, and is very absent in the new film - like flat Coca-Cola. All the ingredients are there, but something is missing.
The Problem with Lynchs movie though is that it's the opposite of the book. Lynch's Dune makes Paul into the Messiah with a more or less "good" ending. Where as the Book hammers down that Paul didn't want to be the Messiah an idea planted by the Bene Gesserit because the following Jihad would kill billions across the Galaxy. - Which was not really explored in Lynchs movie. In other words, while Rank Herbert warns about messianism Lynchs version of Dune embraces it. The new movie is at the very least thematically much closer to the book in that respect.
@@CrniWuk Since I never read the books, I cannot make any comments about how true the movies are to the source material(s). I do see and agree with your point that Lynch's movie does promote messianism as a positive means to an end. Even though Lynch is credited as the writer of the script, I wonder how much influence Dino De Laurentiis had on the story being opposite of what Frank Herbert wrote? For example, I think it was Warner Bros. who probably forced Villeneuve to dumb down the symbolism as the story of Dune is notorious for being hard to follow, and they did not trust the audience to be able to follow. I just feel like that idea of mysticism really enhances sci-fi like this. Could you imagine how different Star Wars would be without the idea of the "Force?"
To be honest, I went to see Villanueve's film not so much with low expectation but cautious optimism. I didnt hate it but I did anticipate that Villanueve would move far away from the trippy, dreamlike, psychedelic, psychtronic image that we have been carrying of Dune all these years. That image really comes more from the eccentric styles of Lynch and Jodorowsky, the two most famous figures responsible for visualizing Dune each in their own ways. In fact the majority of Dune inspired music is typically in the style of "space music" or prog rock rather than the leitmotifs that Zimmer tried to effect.
I just watched the new Dune - and I might be alone in my opinion - but I enjoyed the 1984 version more. One of the reasons for it was the music.... I get goosebumps everytime I listen to this masterpiece of a score.
I fancy both. I liked the way they paid tribute to the original but still managed to be original. Very effing cool. Too bad is half a movie only (the new version).
The Attack of the harkonnens on Arrakis was very bland in the 2021 version. There was no tension, no explanation on wats happening. The 1984 movie prepared the viewer to something bad gonna happen and i agree the score was way better than the 2021 one. Even if i am a huge fan of Hans Zimmer, this time maybe it was his worst work...at the end of the movie none of the music parts stayed in my head, compared to the gladiator which I believe it's his best work to date.
I agree, the first (1984) was better. Although the only gripe I had on it was the casting of Paul. It should have been someone younger. That was the only thing the new one (2021) got right!
this music reminds me of the time i flew in a starship past Orion and the Tennhauser Gate, with moonbeams from Plexus bouncing off the iridium light waves.I was with a small crew including an alpha replicant called Roy Batty. He later escaped to Earth.
I was followed by an iridium light in central australia. It was about the size of a bowling ball but chrome. It would change directions like lightning and track your speed. Your story is great imagery imaginary however mine was not. The aborigines call the min min lights, I call it a vehicle from beyond earth.
brian eno is like vangelis in a sense, they are gifted with music and sound, they are the gods of the electronic sound..., this piece is so special, this music is the sound of arrakis desert.... you know that the spice giant worms are below you as you walk in the sand......
For me the old adaptation is a true masterpiece in all levels. When Lynch and Eno join their artistic minds and create this unforgettable rare moments while you simply watch a film ..
It's fascinating to think Eno would have composed this right after, or maybe even during, his first time working with U2. That album, The Unforgettable Fire, was recorded ca. May-July 1984 (and released at the end of September/beginning of October). Dune came out in December 1984. The prophecy theme would most likely have come about between those two events
Great music. And I love the image you picked from the movie to go with it. Yah, the old Dune was much more transporting and deep than the new one. Zimmer has done some good stuff, but his Dune music doesn't have the magic that Eno's did. Eno nailed it. Zimmer's treatment has too much sampled percussive effects and sound design that sounds just like the other stuff he has done. Best Zimmer was on Rainman, Gladiator, Interstellar and Inception IMO. But his treatment of Dune and Blade Runner fell short for me. The 80's had more soul. Music and cinematography were not so homogenized. I'm just glad we have the likes of Jonny Greenwood to make interesting film music now. But yah, this Eno track is great.
Well after years of memes and "the sleeper must awaken" stuff i finally decided to watch it. Wow. Its weirdly fantastic. I don't think the atmosphere of dune can ever be recaptured.
