Dune: Kralizec, Leto's Plan, The End of The Universe 

"Ask your doctor if Kralizec is right for you."

Kralizek feels like a myth version of the great filter hypothesis

It's a common misconception that Ragnarök is the end of the world. It's meant to be the end of an order and the beginning of another. It's really a death and rebirth story.

I honestly haven't found another RU-vidr who approaches science fiction and its ideas as seriously and expertly as you. Bravo once again.

The dune universe is mind bogglingly rich and is matched only by your enthusiasm for it. I love these breakdowns. Thank you 👍

There's an interview in which Herbert talks about a student in a lecture who said the idea to control other people's thoughts and emotions with words sound silly, and he gave a quite funny example of how everyone can do it very easily to a limited extend. You don't need to know much about a person to make them furious in just one sentence.

Many people will survive Kralizec by buying large quantities of toilet paper.

The strongest place for any civilization to live is right at the edge of darkness. Not within it, lest they be consumed by it--nor too far from it, less they forget it's existence. We must live close enough to the darkness to see it, to smell it, and above all to ensure our children understand what it is, and not mistake it for light.

My roommate says: 'why most def is talking about dune?!?' ... 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

I loved the relaxing spa music as we contemplate total annihilation.

Leto II was preparing humanity to survive it's Greatest Enemy, humanity itself.

Watching your videos is like seeing mini documentaries. The reverence you have for the mythological aspects, both real and fictional make these so awesome to see when you upload. Thanks!

the sapir-whorf linguistic theory is really interesting! and the movie Arrival does a great job exploring it.

"Those who pray for dew at the desert's edge shall bring forth the deluge"

I also loved how Arrival combined the Korzybski / Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis with Lagrangian mechanics.

Quinn, your videos inspired me to reread the Dune saga. I first read it in Jr. High back in the mid-70's. I think this is my 5th read through now. Having watched your videos I've been able to better understand the tale as FH put it forward. Thank you, the enjoyment I get from reading them again is immensely increased.

What I liked Most in The Three Body Problem and following books is how the kind of Typhoon struggle to come gets complicated with changing politics, ethics and timescales which all feel well developed. The Dark Forest Theory is fairly terrifying too.

With respect, Maitreya Buddha does not “bring on the end of the world.” Maitreya Buddha actually revives the Buddhist teachings after they have faded away. This is called the “re-turning of the Wheel of Dharma.” So Maitreya Buddha actually facilitates a continuance, not an extinction. I deeply appreciate the care and enthusiasm that is evidenced in your presentations. I consider Dune as having helped lead me to the Buddhist path. If I may stray from the original books a bit, may Buddallah bless you and your efforts. 🙏🏼

8:00 When Quinn's Ideas and Isaac Arthur's channel merge...

What I found most intriguing is that Leto II doesn't seem to be able to call up his mother's memory-awareness from inside his own mind. Why else ask his sister to do it? I know that, at this stage, he'd accepted a form of possession through which he could control all the memory awarenesses of every ancestor he had, but why couldn't he speak to the version of his mother that he carried? Surely the memory-awareness he carried would have been more or less identical to the one his sister had?

Man i wish you would make those kind of videos on Foundation…

You are one of the few RU-vidrs I actually enjoy enough to leave a like and interact as much as possible. Your deserve the highest accolades for breaking down so many plot points of the Dune and other science fiction lore. Thank you for your service to the sci-fi literary community.

Your choice of background music was really good, it really gave me a feeling of existential dread.

I've been watching you for a couple years now, and I just wanted to comment on how far your channel and videos have come. Huge fan, keep it up!

I discovered Quinn two weeks ago and I’ve been hooked since. Please do guides for all the expanded works, as someone that has read the books your abridgement allows me to see the entire story within an hour long package.

Your video and the way you tell the story is better than a lot of audio books I’ve listened to. You are riveting, knowledgeable and your storytelling superb. Kudos man.

This is a highly thoughtful speech Quinn. Thank you so much for taking the time out to do this and your other great work on Dune. When it comes to our Kralizec I am reminded of some of the words of T S Eliot. In his piece The Hollow Men he says "This is how it ends. This is how it ends. This is how it ends. Not with a bang. But with a whimper" - but in his mature masterpiece the four quartets he talks about beginnings being endings and endings being beginnings. Although he was a strict Anglican in terms of religious practice during the quartets he sometimes sounds like a very wize Indian mystic. But whatever happens we as a species must never give up. There is an old Chinese saying "It is always better to light a candle than it is to curse the darkness".

Quinn: have you read any of the Culture novels? You'd love them. The Culture uses a language called Marain, which was consciously developed to combat the Whorf hypothesis

I started reading the Dune novels,when I was 13 and now in my early 30s there's always something new with every re-read. I have so little time to read these days so I'm so happy to have found your channel! The better memories of my childhood all involve cracking open first editions of books at the local library's scifi section and wiling away the afternoons. Thanks for being as fascinated and thensome, not to mention your ongoing video plots are great! P.S. To be honest, I don't like the reader of the Dune audiobook.... Have you ever considered doing audiobooks? You've got a great narrator voice!

Quinn, I've been enjoying your videos for some weeks now & I've got to say you really have a natural ability to narrate. I'm a good deal older than you & spent a career in TV & radio broadcasting & I loved doing voicework. You remind me of my younger self in that you really seem to take joy in sharing a story & more than that, you know how & when to emphasize words. Keep it up & much success to you sir.

Absolutely loved this video. Your passion for the amazing work really translates.

Quinn, you do a really good job with these videos. I very much appreciate your commentaries.

In sum, kralizec is like the great filter, from the Fermi paradox theory.

I just hope that Villeneuve's DUNE adaptation is as faithful to the novel as Coppola´s Bram Stoker's Dracula is, with some changes indeed but very very close to the novel. That would be amazing!!!

You are one of the most insightful people I’ve listened to in awhile. Thanks for doing these heady vids

Absolutely in love with ALL of these Ideas ❤ keep it all alive, keep at it. It's inspiring

Quiiiiiiin, your vids are getting even better lately, as if that was possible 😜 Keep up the amazing work! 💜

in the context of a timeline as long as one presented in a science fiction epic series, this final struggle is probably finding a way to revise or cheat physics and generate free energy in order to escape the heat-death of the universe wherein all energy and all resources in the universe are eventually all used up, or find a way to escape into another universe that hasnt been used up, or create a new one, or etc.

Love your approach. Visuals well chosen and stunning. Love your love for sf

I love your content. That opening music is perfect. It fits your tone and pacing. Fantastic content.

Huge Dune nerd... Love your vids brother!!

I have lived in 3 European countries, 1 in Asia, and 1 in Africa, and can confirm that the bond between language and culture really does influence how people think. You may speak the same language but the understanding of what a word means will differ. Furthermore, you are either bonded to society or you are a true individual... and what you find is that it's the true individual who truly understands language, expression and the deeper meaning behind translating what lies within to forms that can be understood by others, accepting that there will always be a portion that is lost in translation. Ultimately, the thoughts/feelings for which there are yet no words are the most powerful.

Thanks, Quinn. I always enjoy your episodes.

Another excellent video!! Thank you so much for all the time and effort you devote to these videos.

Great video. I always took Kralizec as essentially humanity being recycled. Recycled objects are burnt, twisted, ripped, etc. However all done with the intention of making something new/better. I believe the golden path was the process of being recycled and karlizec was the test to see if the new product was up to the challenge.

Whorf Hypothesis was also a major element in Villeneuve’s Arrival… Wheels within wheels within wheels

I really enjoy your channel, your material, and your delivery. Top notch.

I just love the intro music and the music in your long form videos.

You have a very impressive literary analysis style and do a great job of marrying the deeper meanings of the scientific text with the literary subtext.

Yer the man Quinn! Every time I hope you'll delve deeper, you do!

Been really enjoying your videos lately! after i saw dune it brought back so much from my early 20s i started deep diving the books and videos. its been leaking into my hip hop last couple tracks even.

Great videos. I appreciate how you explain the lore behind these stories. Keep up the great work!

:D I made a comment about this a while back. It's also referred to as "The Typhoon Struggle". I was just pointing out in that one that Leto never had visions that reached that far ahead; iirc in God Emperor he even states that even if he learned to see the future the way he sees the past; to stare into that void would destroy his mind. The Golden Path is a possible future, solely in Leto's hands; where humanity can become resilient enough to survive that event- but Leto happens to be particularly familiar with the consequences of future sight. Messiah is solely about what the combined visions of the Jihad and The Typhoon Struggle did to Paul. Had he been an unconscionable brute, and permitted the Fremen the full breadth of their "rape of the universe"-there wouldn't be more of a story. Messiah lays out the terribly uncomfortable truth, that even a person's virtue destroys them. In the just world, where someone kept a scoreboard of everyone that Paul's undermining of the Jihad saved compared to the 60 billion it killed; he wouldn't be blinded at 31, convinced that he should give himself to the desert, and then miserable for another 12 years because the worms refuse to eat him.

The YT algorithm definitely violates the Butlerian Jihad by this point. 🤖🧠😉

Excellent presentation as always Quin.

Bro you are amazing at narrating this. I absolutely enjoyed listening to you.

The like to dislike ratio shows how good this content is man, I love the content, your passion, you storytelling skills. Top notch stuff

Once again, a most wonderfully sublime analysis of the Dune Universe.... immense pleasure to listen to, indeed!

I like it when you speak to the camera. I think the gestures and facial expressions assist my absorbing of the info. Great vids, keep it up

Many thanks for doing this event. I've come to enjoy that time of year when suddenly my feed is flooded with good math videos

The Whorf-hypothesis is actually called Sapir-Whorf-hypothesis, named after the two linguists who developed it. Nevertheless I enjoy the coincidence as well, since The Next Generation and Deep Space Nice are my favourite Star Trek series and I love Star Trek in general. :D

The myth of the eternal return.

Thank you for all these wonderful videos Sir Quinn!!!

Love the end of the video!…. “Fuck!”… like a true man, Quinn leaves it in the final edit. Much love & respect.

Appreciate your videos Quinn, you help consolidate some of the more abstract topics and themes in the dune books and make me realise more and more how much of a genius Herbert was to balance these deep and fundamental concepts with the story itself - absolutely mind blowing when you really stop and think about such talent - thanks for keeping us going until the movie drops, your videos are quality ✌️

Holy shit... imagine Leto being more prone to predict Kralizec due to the fatalistic characteristics of the Fremen language...

one of the best videos you made Quinn !! Thanks

I need to read more, so I can watch the rest of your videos, on series I have explored yet. Your content is always great, being subscribed like have a book club of all the best books I can’t get friends and family to read. I can’t thank you enough for the content you make.

Im happy you doing these vids Quinn. I think its a shame Frank Herbert is a bit forgotten as one of the greatest sci fi writers of all time. On par with Azimov, Clark and Niven to name a few. The Dune saga is nothing short than a brilliant piece of work. Cheers

When it comes to Disasters there are only to kinds of People, those who are in the Area of effect and those who are not.

This is the content I subscribe for , Love your videos Quinn!

Really love your videos man, keep up the good work it is very appreciated!

Oh mighty RU-vid AI, I leave this humble comment for thee.

Hey Quinn, I would LOVE it if you put together a "what cloud have been in the 7th Dune book", and I suspect I am not the only one interested... what do you think? Great content as usual, by the way!

Thank you Quinn I always appreciate your work

Your videos are fantastic! Really enjoyed this one.

Keep that new format Quinn! We are not prepared, but we can be, if the word of Herbert lives on in our minds. Let's share it, before the movie will popularize it

Is there just one Kralizec or a series of them? I couldn't help but think of the theory of a great filter (in the context of Fermi's Paradox) as maybe being the same thing. If we survive the great filter/Kralizec we get to advance to the next stage repeating the pattern over the aeons until we fail and are wiped out.

Great commentary. Love your channel.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate your perspectives.

Im confused about something. if the bene Gs "incepted" the original Fremen myths towards the Quizhedrch. Did they also know about the enemy, or did the outcast come up with it on their own? if so, was the ultimate plan of the sisterhood to use the golden path all along?

The universe is in danger *plays some Megadeth

You have an amazing channel. Super awesome stuff, also you have a very good voice for narration.

Thank you Quinn... That was amazing !!!! More Please

let's hope that unlike the golden path our path doesn't require a tyrant to prepare us for the coming changes. i have little hope though as our answer for far too many problems consists of brute force, violence or war. Short term thinking is a huge problem just like dune taught us.

Everyone knows you can only detect radon with a dewalt battery

Recently discovered your channel. Very much enjoying it, sir!

Hello from Norway! Love your videos, I've been binge watching them. You have a new sub!

Are we sure, though, that the Kralizec was not Leto's II's rule? Are we sure Leto II was not also the great enemy?

Frank Herbert’s Dune saga really got me to ask teenage me some really serious questions. Things I did not even fully grasp at the time. Now that I am older it does settle in and tempered me.

This is a wonderful breakdown. great work sir.

Wow Quinn, that was a great video!

I love your writing for these videos. It’s really grade A stuff. That’s why I always come back.

*clicks like button* …. Wait did you say it’s sentient? Do the Butlarians know about this?!

wonderful video! I love how Herbert manages to make you think about the future of humanity an a much langer scale. It makes the problems we're facing with today seem trivial in comparison...

It is good to hear someone discuss Herbert's Dune in a truly thoughtful manner.

Yeah the linguist relativism is a key to Arrival, one of the best movies ever made.

I've tried reading Dune multiple times. It's very interesting, I feel it's a little too smart for me. I still enjoy your videos though!

Quinn you speak wisdom of the ages, uniting in symbiosis many teachings, while using calm tone, it makes music to my ears.

Good stuff, as always. Thank you.