Uh, NO. This is NOT the "real" or "correct" movie version... JUST ANOTHER VERSION; ANOTHER ADAPTATION. Another director's vision. NONE of the movies thus far made present the books accurately and faithfully. The 2001 miniseries was closer to the books, but to get really close (sort of), you'd need to combine the 1984 (Lynch) version and the 6+ hour long 2001 mimiseries version. THIS CURRENT VERSION is the FARTHEST yet from the original source material. It just has popular actors from the current generation, and presents the movie in a "modern" way...one that talks to that current generation. IT IS A GREAT SERIES OF MOVIES. I'm not saying it is not good. I'm just saying that everybody praising it as "finally presenting Frank Herbert's books in a movie" don't have a clue what those books say. I seriously doubt anyone claiming that has ever read all of the books. The best I can say is that these adaptations hit the spirit of the books in places and with some of the characters some of the time. The ending of movie #2 with Chani having such an outburst, shapping Paul, and leaving in anger NEVER HAPPENED. That is a total addition to the story. It will be interesting to see how and IF the storyline can be brought back on track. Thufir Hawat, a significant character, was almost ignored totally in this movie version, as was Doctor Yueh. Duncan Idaho was minimized from the books, where he was almost an adopted son to Duke Leto and a big brother to Paul. Leaving out Alia's childhood was a mistake. It is during that part when the viewer is told that Jessica is the Baron Harkonnen's daughter, due to Bene Gesseret having gotten him drunk and seducing him, since the Baron was gay. More genetic manipulation through selective breeding to produce Paul and his sister, the Baron's grandchildren. (Of course today we have much more efficient methods of genetic manipulation that were not imagined in Herbert's day.) In this version, Paul walks in, passing the emperor and his Sardukar soldiers, and kills the Baron, while calling him "grandfather". In fact, Alia killed the Baron. NONE of the versions explain that she then went out among the wounded and dying on the battlefield, cutting the throats of the enemy troops. The 2001 version comes closest, but even it left the details out, simply showing her standing with arms spread wide, smiling broadly with a bloody Krissknife in one hand with head tilted back in an attitude of bliss or rapture... a prelude to her eventual madness. THERE IS SO MUCH DETAIL TO UNPACK, THAT A COMPLETE MOVIE WOULD REQUIRE 1) the audience had read the books and know the large amount of back story needed to support the skeleton of the abbreviated movie plot and actor interactions, and 2) each segment of the multiple episodes would need to be 6 or 8 hours long with consistent and seamless flow. This would probably require filming the entire saga at the same time, a multi-year endeavor without a break for the actors. That's probably unrealistic. Dune is a huge and complex world with many lines of connectivity and interaction, parallel plots and intrigues going on simultaneously, and a massive amount of supporting detail that only multiple tomes like Frank Herbert wrote can provide, as well as the supplemental books that evolved from the originals. Bottom line: it's not even close to the original story details, but enjoy it for the spectacle it is.
Bravo, well said, I agree with everything you have written here... I started reading Dune books when I first discovered them in 1983 and have since read and reread all but two or three of the most recent books written by Herbert's son. I was surprised that M Villeneuve decided to give Dr Liet Kynes an unnecessary sex change, disappointed that Alia of the Knife was omitted from the final of the second film and I am still left wondering how Jason Momoa will convincingly be able to handle the role of Duncan Idaho in his subsequent 'cloned' stages. The books are best of course but the film and tv offerings thus far are all good in their own way, I enjoyed watching them. PS: Audible books and audio books on you tube also have some very worthwhile renditions for late night listening. Top mark MG.50.
Part 1 and 2 are one person’s interpretation of the books. I think he’s wrong. Nobody in this universe’s ruling class is good. None of the factions would be any better controlling the empire. The director gets everything wrong trying to ID a particular villain.
Regardless of how much I worship AT-J (which is considerable) I think Zendaya is going to rule Dune 3. The Dune series will continue to blow everything else (Star Wars, Star Trek:Yeoh, etc.) off theater screens for years to come. Looking forward to the work of real visionaries!
BS THE TV SERIES WITH WILLIAM HURT WAS WAY BETTER THAN BOTH MOVIES AND CONTINUED IN CHILDRTEN OF DUNE. ONCE YOU STRAY FROM THE AUTHERS CHARACTERS YOU LOSE THE STORY.. SEEMS EVERYONE IS MORE INTRESTED IN HOW MUCH THE MOVIE MAKES THAN THE STORY ITSELF.
I couldn't agree more with you. There is very little left from the original story to make a third movie. They wanted to go WOKE and that's what they have.
In the 3rd movie Alia will be an adult. Between the 2nd and 3rd movie is a span of 12 years. That means Alia’s growth spurt into adulthood must be epic due to the water of life.🤯
Or you’ll just have to suspend disbelief, Villeneuve took a lot of liberties with timelines, I’m sure that will continue in messiah. And I’m NOT complaining, anyone that’s read the books would know that you need 10 seasons on HBO just to cover book one of Dune lol. I love what DV did, this might be controversial, but Dune 1&2 are now my favourite movies of all time
How do you know all this information if the movie is not out yet, and how do you know that paul is going to go blind you don't act in the movie, mhhh ?
Because it's in the books? Speculation that these things will be in the movie, but it would be dumb to not include them. There's a lot Denis V. didn't include but you can read the book synopses if you don't read books.
Yes, Dr Liet Kynes, a man, was Chani's father in Frank Herbert's book.... M Villeneuve should have respected the author's creation and the readers' intelligence.
