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In this video we discuss the merits and qualities of one of the finest games released in the past decade, Dune Imperium, and compare it to its successor, Dune Imperium Uprising. We review both games and give you our conclusion as to which version is the best, and the one we recommend you pick up if you're in the market for a new dune based strategy board game!
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Комментарии : 39   
@dukster362
@dukster362 4 месяца назад
Sandworm minis were included for people who had the deluxe version of dune imperium to match the troop minis :)
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 4 месяца назад
Ahhhhh well that makes a little sense.
@niekka1978
@niekka1978 4 месяца назад
You must mean it makes _a lot_ of sense and you are somewhat embarrassed that you complained about the minis in the review? 🫣
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 4 месяца назад
Nope, not embarrassed at all, because if you don't own the deluxe upgrade and you buy Uprising, you'll be rightfully confused as to why there are two types which don't match. This is worth pointing out in the review
@niekka1978
@niekka1978 4 месяца назад
@@boardstupiduk a clueless buyer might get confused but a board game reviewer shouldn't. Worth pointing out would have been "there are also optional sandworm minis provided to make it compatible with the previous deluxe version". Not "why would they do this??!!" which is what you have here.
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 4 месяца назад
Ha! You make it sound like we're professional. We don't get paid or sent these games for free, we bought them, love games, and gave our impressions. It would have been better to include just wooden ones, and have the sandworms as an upgrade like they did the first time round. These are our honest impressions, and I still feel like "why did they do this" also this information isn't in the rule book.
@Simon_BoardStupid
@Simon_BoardStupid 4 месяца назад
Interesting to see a redux like this, particularly for what was already a highly rated game. I can't think of many titles that have done this, as opposed to making the changes through an add-on
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 4 месяца назад
It's an interesting approach and one that I didn't see coming to be honest. Plus they have a multitude of expansions. I feel like they wanted to capitalise on the amazing success both critically and commercially, and saw an opportunity to tweak the game in advance of part 2, and actually did so pretty successfully!
@ricardomartin3898
@ricardomartin3898 4 месяца назад
Wonderful analysis and comparison between the 2 games. Just what I need! You got a new subscribed!
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much! Welcome aboard dude! Appreciate it
@BoardGamecomments
@BoardGamecomments 4 месяца назад
I'm glad this video is finally out. I haven't played Uprising yet. It makes sense that the 1.5 is preferred by the vast majority of people that compare the two. I did hear elsewhere that Imperium had the edge as a solo experience, but that was before the Imperium app came out, so now people have the option to play 1.0 with a challenge mode full of variants in that. The best Dune game? That's a tough one because the others are hard to get to the table even if you have a copy. Games with the Dune IP compete fiercely with other games to get to the table. Imperium is easy to get to the table, but it still competes with Lost Ruins of Arnak (27) and Endless Winter (277). I should probably say "was" because Uprising (133) is now competing with Dune Imperium (6). Dune (474), the 1979 game that was remade in 2019 with the same name (192) kind of competes with itself the way Uprising does with Imperium. It technically competes with the 2021 Dune: A Game of Conquest and Diplomacy mini remake version too, although that's like Twilight Struggle competing with Twilight Squabble. In reality it's competing with 3 hour negotiation games with high player counts. For shorter playtimes that's Rising Sun (126) and Comic Encounter (195). For longer playtimes that's Twilight Imperium (5), Game of Thrones (210), and Diplomacy (784). Even games like Circadians: Chaos Order (2248) from 2022 are fighting for table space against these games. Dune War for Arrakis (1558) is a game I'm passing on for just this reason. The epic hours long duel games fighting for my table space are War of the Ring (8) and Star Wars Rebellion (9). Dune games tend to be games that inflate my ratings for IP games because the mechanisms are usually the things that appeal to me more than the theme.
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 4 месяца назад
Thanks BGC! Appreciate the commentary as always. It was clear to us in playthroughs that if you had to buy just one of them, it had to be uprising, as it offers more as a singular experience than Dune Imperium alone and is the more forgiving, slightly more dynamic of the two if you like the deckbuilding side, and has more ways to mitigate worker placement space denial than it's elder sibling. The original Dune. If you have the GF9 copy, you have the better version of the original Dune game. It's an amazing game but it's a git to get to the table due to it absolutely being superior at a 6 player count, but if you can, it's a tremendous game that is extremely thematic! But at this point, I don't see it getting to the table again in the near or possibly even far future. Endless Winter and Lost Ruins of Arnak are absolutely analogous to Dune Imperium, so I can see how they can compete for gaming time. Endless Winter is a much wider game than Imperium. Arnak might be a bit closer to the style but is more forgiving still than uprising. Rising Sun is one of my favourite games of all time. I'm overdue another play of it, so I might suggest it for bank holiday monday... Dune War for Arrakis looks cool, but I don't have room for it, plus I'm moving further and further away from CMON style productions. I think it's getting to the point now where we're seeing a bit of Dune IP saturation in the board game space, similar to how marvel games were EVERYWHERE a couple of years back. How long that will last, I don't know, but with a new TV Series coming and possibly another movie, we haven't seen the last of it.
@athullnexus5450
@athullnexus5450 5 дней назад
What do all the numbers next to the names mean? I get it’s a code but for what website is it for?
@BoardGamecomments
@BoardGamecomments 4 дня назад
@@athullnexus5450 They were the BoardGameGeek rankings of the best games of all time as of the date I wrote that. I was just using them as a general indicator of popularity.
@polixmetal
@polixmetal 9 дней назад
Excellent review
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 8 дней назад
Thanks so much!
@kamokamocsai
@kamokamocsai 29 дней назад
If you want to buy the basic game, then buy Uprising. If you're going to play the most exciting and balanced version, buy the original Imperium with the IX and Immortality expansions.
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 28 дней назад
Probably a fair take! Thanks for the insight
@Humphreysfox
@Humphreysfox Месяц назад
Nice video. I have both and all the expansions. Uprising is unopened but I feel like combining the cards and using the expansions with uprising...this can be done right? Any guides out there in combining them?
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk Месяц назад
Thank you for checking out the video! Regarding combining uprising with imperium, you are right, check out Page 18 of the Uprising rulebook. This is a good thread on it boardgamegeek.com/thread/3213458/merakons-house-blend/page/1
@Humphreysfox
@Humphreysfox Месяц назад
@@boardstupiduk thanks!! i hadnt opened my uprising copy yet so great tip!
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk Месяц назад
No worries dude!
@roza44channel
@roza44channel 2 месяца назад
What about comparing Uprising to Imperium with expansions ? There are many opinion on internet that Im+expansions elevate it above Uprising. Would you agree ? Other side around, biggest complains about Uprising is that worm fighting (double points) is injustice and break a game. I didn't have any of them and wonder if this is better to buy Im+expansions or Uprising (as base game only) ?
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 2 месяца назад
Hey Roza, great question! I have imperium plus rise of IX, Matt has Uprising. I think honestly going it to it cold, you can just buy uprising. It is initially more complex, but plays complexity wise kind of like Imperium including rise of ix. If you want a slightly more streamlined, slightly tougher experience, get the original plus Ix. You can't go wrong with either option.
@zinnsoldat6493
@zinnsoldat6493 Месяц назад
Uprising> Imperium . House rules for worms to balance them : Victorious players get base rewards+ 3rd place . 1+3 2+3 3+3 .
@zinnsoldat6493
@zinnsoldat6493 Месяц назад
In my country there's only Uprising and Immorality in stock. No Imperium (since Uprising released) and rise of Ix . So i guess go for Uprising and later for Rise X.
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk Месяц назад
You think the rules need balance? I think you're in the minority there.
@BoardGameAddictUK
@BoardGameAddictUK Месяц назад
Very helpful thanks
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk Месяц назад
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching!
@maximilianomartinmassera9609
@maximilianomartinmassera9609 4 месяца назад
obvious cash grab, this game has no reason to exist
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 4 месяца назад
Which one? Dune imperium is a spectacular game, dune imperium uprising is even better, certainly one of the best games released in the past 5 years.
@maximilianomartinmassera9609
@maximilianomartinmassera9609 4 месяца назад
@@boardstupiduk uprising i meant
@niekka1978
@niekka1978 4 месяца назад
For someone who did not own dune yet this is great!
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 4 месяца назад
Ah ok, yeah a little bit. It IS however an improvement over the first one, but the short release makes it feel that way, I get you.
@boardstupiduk
@boardstupiduk 4 месяца назад
If you don't own either, it's probably the one to get!
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