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wow.. Pat puts some real intellectual input in this video. He was a great addition to the format! It's too bad he doesn't play or played many video games. He'd be an amazing co-host.. albeit I'd still miss Dave a bit. Hope he's doing well. 👍👍

Pat was one of the best performers on MadTV back in the day. It's awesome that he's a D&D fan.

Pat was Great! I hope he comes back if you do another episode of this

Pool of Radiance on PC was my D&D game growing up. All of those “gold box” SSI games were classics back in the day!

I think a format like this has a lot of potential for Game Sack. You could bring in a tennis fan to help review different tennis games, bring in a local pro wrestler and have them check out wrestling games, maybe even talk with an author and have them review visual novels. There's always something interesting about something of an outsider perspective judging games based on their own priorities as enthusiasts.

Did NOT expect to see Pat Kilbane of Mad TV

Pat's grown up to become an actual wizard. And Joe's grown up to become an actual Joe. I like the arcade, side scrolling D&D games myself with the RPG elements. Plus, those games look great. Of course the drawing of the dragon looks excellent.

Finally a DnD episode! Pat was a great guest, loved his insights

Joe, Pat is gold, man! Like you, he's well spoken, well informed, and a joy to listen to. I'd love to see him back for more in the future. Perhaps he could give his opinion on other DnD-esque games, games inspired by DnD, or really, whatever you'd both be happy collaborating on! Awesome stuff, both of you ^_^

Pat seems like a cool guy. I already know he is funny and now knowing that he likes D&D only confirms his coolness.

This must be one of your best episodes, it's fascinating to have an outsider perspective on these games.

No way! Pat Kilbane! I grew up with that cast from Madtv. So cool.

Cool to see Pat again! Loved him on MAD!

Welcome back, Pat! Thanks for bringing your extensive D&D knowledge to share with us!

It's weird to think that Yuzo Koshiro composed a first person dungeon crawler before Etrian Odyssey! Also, loving the use of Triangle Strategy music!

Art Sack...great drawing. The end bit was one of your best, too.

Please do a part 2!!! There's so many more games to cover and I really enjoyed the reviews from different perspectives.

Such an awesome chill episode. Pat seems really friendly he was a great guest host.

It was truly refreshing to see Pat. What a great actor/comedian and guy. You guys were like peas and carrots, peanut butter and jelly, spaghetti and meatballs, chicken and waffles, pizza and beer...I like food and I love this channel. Keep up it Joe and be well my fellow gamers!

25:14 Your drawing is excellent, Joe

Hey, Joe has a co-host! Feels like the days of old with Joe & Dave (that was his name, right? Dave?)

That was a really cool episode! As a casual D&D fan, I enjoyed Pat's insights. His inclusion in the end skit was the cherry on top.

This was a real treat. I never thought Pat Kilbane would be such a big D&D guy, let alone such a thoughtful and articulate fan. Loved him in Mad TV BTW

Heroes of the Lance was based on the Dragonlance series [more specifically chronicles trilogy] by Margaret Wise and Tracey Hickman The Dragonlance series started as a D&D campaign so for those who read the books the game has some sort of visualization - but the game still sucked

Would love to hear their take on the 90s Goldbox collection for MS-Dos and the original Baldur's Gate on PC. Thx for the video.

Once I knew Joe was editing Pat's documentary, I secretly hoped something like this would happen. Glad to see a collaboration!

It is a damn good drawing, Joe. I drew the T-800 from T2 with facial damage exposing the endoskeleton when I was in high school. Actually, it was the summer before I was in high school. It wasn't as good as your dragon though. Want to hang out and draw some stuff?

Great to see you both together enjoying some D&D in your own way . I thought Pat looked familiar and so I looked on my Wikipedia memory and yes I recognized him from Madtv while I lived in the US. That was before he became a wizard. (PS: The Wiki mentions this episode at the bottom but it has a typo on Dungeon as "Dungon" or something. Maybe a kind soul could fix that...)

The 4 players custom cabinet of dungeon and dragons was A-M-A-Z-I-N-G- . Can't remember if was tower of something or Chronicles of mysteria...

Nothing quite like the awesomeness of a late Saturday night Game Sack episode...

Wow, D&D: Warriors of the Eternal Sun reminds me so much of Ultima 7. Mainly the weird perspective, but also the overall art style screams Ultima 7! And, well, then I see in the dungeons it's a bit like Eye of the Beholder. lol

"When you think D&D, you think dance music" *HELL YEAH!!!!*

Great guest. Good idea!

Heroes of the Lance is a direct adaptation of the first modules in the Dragonlance series. I don't know that the system is AD&D, but it's a direct adaptation of an AD&D story.

Would really enjoy seeing more entries in this series. There are a TON of interesting D&D video games.

Pat Kilbane! Weird, been listening to Will Sasso's podcast, Dudesy, and I've been wondering where some Mad TV alumni have been. Definitely was not expecting anyone to show up on Game Sack and have one of them talking about D&D on here. That's pretty cool.

Wow Pat gave some amazing insight into so many aspects of the games I never thought about since my knowledge of D&D is very superficial. This needs to be a series!

So you finally get a guest co-host, and you smack him in the face?! What a good sport, haha

Pat is really informative with his D&D knowledge. Hope you can get him onto the show more often.

PAT WAS AWESOME, you two really do work as a great combo. You being more light hearted and comedic but on point on technical specs and him being down to earth and a calming/knowledgeable tone to contribute to the esthetics of the video. You should collab more often. (Sorry dave, we love you too but we need a co-host!)

Well, a game sack upload is a great way to wrap up my busy Saturday! Thanks joe!

Warriors of the Eternal Sun is my jam! So glad to see it right of the bat.

Pat made a terrific addition to this video with specific genre insights. Very well done guys.

Great to see Pat, here! What a fun episode! Great job, guys.

Pat speaks like a wizened D&D veteran that would be an honor to play with.

Wow, great video... Hope we see H. P. Lovecraft based games.

Something to note about Shadow: certain levels have areas only-accessible with certain characters (such as that forest level having an upper area that you can only reach if someone plays the Elf, or in the Deep Caverns near the end with the Dwarf (which results in a rematch against Tel'Arin and a brainwashef Tel'Elorin)). To add to this, certain actions can have effects on later parts of the game (saving the miniaturized people gives you access to their village for info and a shop, killing Tel'Arin and sparing Tel'Elorin skips the semifinal boss fight with Nagpa and his pets, and following the clues for the Mage's ultimate weapon allows a chance for all players to do a single attack that depletes half of the final boss' HP instantly). Plus, alternate versions of characters have different features (very easy to notice for Cleric, Elf, and Mage).

Pat was great. Makes me smile when I see people older and younger than me show their love for gaming. Be it video games or tabletop or whatever, games rock.

I loved listening to Pat with all of his vast knowledge on D&D, he seems like a really cool dude and I really enjoyed him being on this episode. I knew Joe would pick the brawler game!! Haha never change Joe. Except stop bullying your guests! XD

An episode I'm sure MetalJesusRocks would be interested in.

What a treat to see Pat return to the show! I think that one of Joe's biggest strengths as a presenter is (paradoxically) how willing he is to acknowledge his ignorance of some things that the show covers and having an expert co-host (especially one that is already part of the Game Sack Extended Universe) really brings this experience to the next level. Game Sack keeps surprising me even after so many years. Way to go!

Good to see Pat again! Nice that he came out of the forest to do the show.

You got Pat back? Nice.

Honestly, I dig the knowledgeable new co-host.

Love the bottle of Mountain Dew just sitting on the table during the table top game.

I'm so proud to have a Game Sack t-shirt right now!

Do the SSI Goldbox games in the next episode. I love Pools of Radiance.

To those who are wondering why a D&D fan hasn't read the Dragonlance books and/or aren't familiar with the characters contained therein, that's kind of like wondering why a video game player isn't intimately familiar with the characters in Wreck It Ralph or that Adam Sandler Pac Man movie. D&D is a game that people play together. Dragonlance is a fictional work based (loosely?) on some of its rules/mythos/etc. The character names can still have the same origins as pondered about in this episode. Maybe we'll ask Flint Dille, but as you can imagine he's a busy guy and a tough man to get a hold of. But if it happens I'll update this comment.

One thing I noticed retroactively with Warriors of the Eternal Sun, is that I think it may take place in the Hollow World setting. The monster selection, Aztec type bits and the always day part of it seem to point that way anyway. Dark Aliance did a great job balancing action and the dnd setting into a kind of diablo esque experience. I dont remember if it was a dnd branded game but there was at least one NES dungeon crawler similar to eye of the beholder that you could play with the 4 player adapter.

Nice dragon, Joe! Also really liked this co-hosted sack episode, please make it happen again someday soon.

Always look forward to a new Gamesack but a D&D one!? AWESOME.

I think it's about time I started playing this. I've been putting it off for like 10 years of wondering.

Pat was really good in MadTV. Super entertaining.

So glad to see Stan the java finally overcome his addiction to coffee. Hehe. Loved Pat , he was the best spishak spokesperson.

Ah the return of Pat Kilbane. I did enjoy him as a humor coach back in the day!

Ah yeah, starting off with Eternal Sun! Good episode format to cover that one.

All hail Game Sack day! Guest appearance episodes are always great. More great artwork too, I used to love drawing box artwork in the 80s and 90s

Pat was a really interesting addition to this video! Always like to have different perspective on topics like this.

Having a boardgame player over a video game player is perfect. Thanks for your guest.

NO WAY PAT KILBANE!!!!! Holy crap this is amazing!

The drawing of the dragon is pretty good, thanks for sharing it.

Great to see Pat and his love of D&D. That ending was risky lol

Just finished Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance last week and about to finish part 2.

Cool episode. I liked the new concept of non-gamer pov.

Wow, awesome video. It’s very nice to have both perspectives. Well done!

A unique, precious and truly nerdy episode with wonderfully drawn dragon.The kind of content you rarely watch outside the game sack

I remember playing Eye of the Beholder years ago and actually, I liked the Sega CD version more than the original PC and the SNES versions. The game had sequels on PC and PC-98 as well, but those were never ported to consoles. Also, George Kamitani of Vanillaware was involved in the Capcom D&D beatemups as well.

Good and entertaining concept having an expert on the show

Great vid! Pat is one of my favorite cast members to have been on MadTV. Great characters and facial expressions! This was awesome!

Wait, Pat Kilbane THE humor coach? He's back?! And a wizard?!!! Awesome.

Holy Crap! That’s Pat Kilbane. He’s hilarious, I love that guy. He’s been in a bunch of stuff but he was the Coffee Guy on Mad TV!!

i loved pat on MadTv! the coffee guy was my favorite character of his.

I loved this guy on MADTV . Great episode 👏

Why does cd quality audio still sound so great still to this day. I LOVE the Sega CD audio.

Here is the new Dave!!!!

3 Things: 1. This video slaps 2. Your drawing is awesome! 3. This collab is great!

My favorite D&D based video game is Planescape: Torment. While the real-time combat isn't as classic D&D as Eye of the Beholder, it did a great job with the actual role-playing and story parts. It helps that Planescape is my favorite of the TSR settings. Also, Pat Kilbane being back on an episode of Game Sack is awesome!

Just finished watching this during my lunch hour break. Great job guys! Pat was a great guest presenter. He looks like Doctor Strange as well! 👍🏼👍🏼

We need more actors for the silly skits, Joe alone is great but another person to play off of is great!

Enjoyed the contrasting analysis with this one, I’m not a D&D guy but I am an old games guy so found it very interesting. Fine work, gents 👊

I once dated a girl who said she loved D&D. What she meant was that she loved more than one D at a time.

Dang, Pat Kilbane! I didn't recognize him at first, but now I remember him from his stint on MadTV! Very cool guest, Joe.

Pat was cool. Thanks for the episode!

If you ask me, Eye of the Beholder is still one of the best dungeon crawlers ever made - even though part two is way cooler. Both the Sega CD and SNES versions are surprising well made too (at least as long as you play with a mouse). The standing order of your party can indeed be changed by the way (I guess a hundred comments already mentioned that ;)).

Wow, I had no idea Pat was a D&D aficionado. Very cool! I really enjoyed his insight! Great episode!

Wow that was so awesome seeing Pat Kilbane on here !! Didn’t know he was such a knowledgeable D&D player !!! Great episode

Warriors of the Eternal Sun was my introduction to D&D, used to play it a lot when i was little. I still think its the best game in the franchise.

I started with a text based Dungeons and Dragons. It went from there.

I LOVE the contrasting point of views! So awesome you brought a expert on D&D to have their intake! To answer your question Joe, YES that drawing is awesome!

Warriors of the Eternal Sun is one of my personal favorites on the Genesis. I wish there was more variety to the dungeons to explore and certainly a lot more one-time random encounters with unique enemies or NPCs. The swamp and jungle boil down to an empty map with one location - either a boss fight with a tribe of lizard men or a dungeon inside an Aztec-style pyramid. The last dungeon just throws every at you - drow, chimaeras, Medusae, dragons, mummies, vampires, and LOTS of magic users. Surprised they left out the displacer beasts and beholders, though. Maybe the sequel that never happened would have expanded on that - there was an option at the end to write down several passcodes to carry your party over to the next (planned) game.