What about the remake of the epic dog fight war movie Battle of Britain 1969? This time Hollywood directors and producers must show planes like Bf 109, Junkers Ju 88, Dorniers Do 17, Bf-110s apart from Stukas. Else its no use.
@@Stinger913 He-111 was used in the film. Pretty sure it was the Spanish variant like the 109's in the movie which used Merlin engines. The Stuka's in the movie were not real. But considering when it was made and the amount of actual aircraft they did have its still Epic. While I would love to see a remake now with a bigger selection of aircraft I just don't think any of the big CGI ones have done a very good job of looking natural. Dunkirk had a lot of issues but the Spitfire flybys looked brilliant because they were the real planes. Pearl Harbour, Red Tails, Air Strike. The physics always seems off. CGI where its at now though they should be able to do anything.
My mum who died this evening (aged 89) saw all this happening above her everyday in the summer of 1940 in Wartling, Pevensey, Kent, then aged 12 and had somethimes had to ride her cycle through falling spent 303 cartridges on the way home from school. Regarding another crucial feature of the BoB, these are her words... "Another day some planes flew over the Vicarage, and as we watched them go from our front door we saw the black crosses and 'something' falling from them - BOMBS. We soon knew what they were when when we were blown back indoors! Sadly they found their target on the marshes and there was loss of life in the Radar station situated there."
Sorry to hear your mother has passes away. My Dad has just had his 90th birthday and recalls similar events, including watching a huge armada of bombers and fighters crossing westwards over his house to attack London on his 13th birthday, 17th September 1940. He also had to dive into a ditch when buzzed by a Messerschmidt 109 flying desperately low north just inland from Herne Bay. He was just cycling to school with his friend.
Whilst this was going on Aberdeen had no air cover and was the most bombed city under attack on 34 occasions. My grandfather was a trawlerman allowed to fish 15 miles outside Aberdeen. The Nazi bombers dropped their bombs on him rather than face the anti aircraft guns waiting for them in the city. He manned a old Lewis gun and shot down one of the Heinkel bombers that was low enough and rescued its crew from the sea. The King gave him the George medal. I've held that medal.
wow nice of him to rescue but wrong to call them nazi bombers since the luftwaffle id the only part of the German army that did not require you to swear to the nazi party and was much more removed from the nazi ideology than any part o the army
@@JefferyEpstien911 perhaps you should research the subject before making uninformed comments, The Luftwaffe as a newly created arm of the Reich's offensive capacity was well stacked with dedicated national socialists .
@@JefferyEpstien911 There's a quote I've heard: "In Germany we have a name for those who didn't really believe in the Nazi ideology but just went along with everything because it was the easiest thing to do. We call them Nazis."
@@JefferyEpstien911 Quite untrue. The head of the Luftwaffe was the number two man in the Reich; Wever, Milch, Jeschonnek, von Richthofen, von Greim, and Kesselring, probably the most important senior officers of the service, were all dedicated Nazis; the Jagerstab pioneered the useage of Jewish slave labour starting with the He 177 project in 1942 and eventually expanding to the point where by their own estimates, 80% of the shop floor work force in the German aircraft industry was forced labour recruited from the concentration camps; Rudel, the famous Stuka pilot and the "experte" Walther Dahl, the final Inspekteur der Tagjäger were both heavily involved in banned far-right parties postwar, and Luftwaffe ground troops furnished guards for concentration camps.
I could listen to that music all day. I can tell you as a musician that the percussionists had their hands full with this sound track. Hans Zimmer, you are a musical genius!
Personally, I agree with Rasputin. Both were equally good in their own rights. The only major disadvantage that the Hurricane had was that it was a very dangerous plane to ditch in the water, as it had a tendency to flip nose over. Either way, by 1941, the Hurricane was pretty much outmoded by both time and technology. Thankfully, Hawker was already testing, and even producing, the Hurricane's successor, the Typhoon, which unfortunately had a troublesome early history due to its Napier Sabre engine; which was remedied through modification, better maintenance and even a lighter weight successor: The Tempest.
+Neil Wilson Many of the aerial scenes were filmed from a converted B-25. Two "Heinkels" (swastikas and all) were flown across France to England (for the scenes showing the bombers over English fields). If you look, when English countryside is shown, only 2 bombers are in sight. The airfield being "bombed was RAF Duxford and the hangar they blew up was condemned anyway. When you see the Polish squadron in flight, look very carefully at the planes in the back, They are not Hurricanes but in fact Hispano Aviación HA-1112 fighters as there were only 3 flyable Hurricanes available. Much of the information can be seen at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain_(film)#Aircraft If you don't mind wiki!
Spitfires are honestly some of the most beautifully designed machines humanity has ever made. Despite their intentions of war, I think they are the most elegant and sleek creations.
My uncle was a german fighterpilot. He said that they were ordered by Göring to stay with the bombers, so he had to fly with the flaps out to match the slow bombers. They had no fuel left when they reached britain. If he could have flown in advance without the flaps, they would have at least 10 minutes fighting time against the british.
Thank you for posting that. There is a scene in Battle of Britain that echoes what your uncle said. The German fighter pilot says that a fighter is a hunter - and clearly wants to stay high up and bounce the British fighters. But his superior orders him to stay close to the bombers. Similarly, the RAF pilots were told to fly in close formation - a poor tactic, when you needed to be looking for enemy planes, rather than making sure that you didn't crash into your wing man. I love the Battle of Britain film. It is certainly not 100% accurate and does create some debatable mythology, but the overall result is very good. The Germans are men not monsters. The music is wonderful. It is SO full of iconic moments : "they've got the Rose & Crown", "come in, Red-2", "Repeat please" and so many more. As somebody whose parents both fought in the war (my dad in the Royal Navy and my mum in the Army in London during the Battle of Britain), this is one of the two films that I want my children to know. (The other is "The Cruel Sea".) As another aside, the Battle of Britain featured lots of real aircraft and no CGI. There is a wonderful shot at the start of the film, where a Spitfire does a victory roll and you can see and hear the engine cut out as the carburetor stops supplying a proper fuel mix. This was real - and a demonstration of one of the weaknesses of the early model Spitfires, compared with the 109. The film does hide that the 109 had a lot of advantages over the Spit.
That's some damn good cinematography for 1969. Hell, one could easily think that some of these shots were from Dunkirk. That is some Howard Hughes level of dedication right there.
I clicked the 'like' button because, contrary to my first instincts, this worked. I still prefer the original but this video and music caught my attention. With respect to other comments, my 12 year old grandson finds it hard to believe this was filmed without CGI.
And there are now only 3 original members left alive of the RAF, nicknamed 'the few' who fought against the Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain: Flight LT William Clark (100), Wing Commander Paul Farnes (101) and Flying Officer John Hemingway (100). Thankyou to all those who fought for our freedom and all the support staff who kept the aircraft serviced and the members of the operations staff.
Here inscribed the names of friends we knew, Young men with whom we often flew. Scrambled to many angels high, They knew that they or friends might die. Many were very scarcely trained, And many badly burnt or maimed. Behind each name a story lies Of bravery in summer skies; Though many brave unwritten tales Were simply told in vapour trails. Many now lie in sacred graves And many rest beneath the waves. Outnumbered every day they flew, Remembered here as just 'The Few'. William Walker.
The only other comparable films in terms of the aerial sequences, for me at least, are Tora Tora Tora and The Blue Max. I watched a couple of minutes of Redtails recently and it was soooo bad I turned it off. A shame because it was story worth telling but horribly executed.
The evolution of sound and music editing are the main point of this. Incredible how the visual effects hold up, and are SO enhanced by a fresh audio approach.
Great comment there. The video editing was superb too, as I haven't seen many comment that this is - for those familiar with the movie - spliced from several set-pieces and not just the final battle. (The presence of Caine's character is a giveaway). But just fantastically good work on show here. This is the sort of thing which RU-vid is so good for showing off.
The shot from 4:40 is a work of art. Especially considering the process that would have been undertaken to achieve it, when compared to today's capabilities.
It is mesmerising - one of those one-in-a-million moments in cinema. So fleeting, but a perfect, beautiful kinetic composition and yes, the organisation which went into getting just seconds of film like this - it's why the movie is unsurpassed in certain technical aspects, even to this day. I watched - and largely enjoyed - Midway, but the video-game hi-G plane-on-a-ballistic-course dynamics of the aerial scenes clanged pretty hard. Look at how these machines float and drift, the formations ebbing and flowing like a kaleidoscope.
The thing is, ALL the flying scenes were done by REAL Aeroplanes, REAL PILOTS, something that here now, in May, 16, 2023, would be completely Impossible now!.
Yeah the German planes and pilots were from the Royal Spanish Air Force which they had gotten during the Spanish Civil War. Definitely some were supplied by Airfix for the crash scenes .
This is actually an excellent short film. Dunkirk is basically a prequel to the 1969 Battle of Britain, which in my opinion has the best ariel combat sequencies ever filmed. So to see clips of the 1969 film to Hans Zimmer's excellent score is a treat indeed. Bravo!
WOW WOW WOW!!! We turned up the music in the office. It was so loud, you could hear it on the street. We got seriously goosebumps. This experiment of modern music of genius Hans Zimmer as a layer on top of this incredible war movie Battle of England from 1969 (!) was an absolut stunningly well resolved one!
Fifth Continent: no, no travesty. U probably don't know Academy winner "Mr. Zimmer". This is not a comparison with genius William Walton. You didn't get it, sorry to say. This was just an impressive and genius mix of Zimmer and the 50 yrs old film of Battle of England. Got it now?
Yes I agree, I'm English and it was" The Battle Of Britain" Scotts, Welsh, Irish, New Zealanders, Australians, Canadians, Polish, French, Americans, I will have missed many who deserved a mention, my apologies for that. But my point is it was "The Battle Of Britain" not just by Britain but to save Britain, to allow a second front when the time was right.
Maybe because it's a story of the underdog, of defence, of the few, or even the frighteningly sexy technology of its day. But the 'Battle of Britain' movie gets better with age, and it was pretty good in its day. Filled with stars, underplaying their roles, just like the 20 something heroes who actually flew and died or survived this initial onslaught. We salute you, and the movies that do them justice. Many battles had bigger casualties or more machines. But stopping this attack in its tracks, has to celebrated. This was the first time in WWII that Germany was defeated in action. It proved that by technology and strategy, rather than sheer brute force of numbers that a supposedly overwhelming force can be defeated. It also was invaluable for the US to realise the potential for Britain to fight on and start supplying Britain all the war materials necessary to keep on fighting before the US officially joined as an ally at war.
Fits amazingly. In my opinion the Battle of Britain is one of the greatest war movies ever made. Especially in its sweeping scope of the drama. It holds the record for the most footage used of ww2 planes used in film and has had its footage reused in many many movies since it was made. Even though its orgininal score was just as tense, this fits so well. Thanks.
@@Gwynbuck Director complained about that; they were so concerned about getting the history (esp. military) right that they slipped up in other areas. The civilians in the underground were done correctly thanks to the extras who were children in the Blitz and knew how to dress the part.
Watched the Battle of Britain when it first came out and a hundred times since, never get bored with it, fantastic movie!!! Sadly the movie Dunkirk fell well short..
Battle of Britain is one of my favorite air combat movies based on period World War II. If it was not for the RAF Luftwaffe would have easily conquered England. Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few - Sir Winston Churchill. Respects to RAF from IAF (Indian Air Force) War is Hell...!
In typical fashion, an RAF flyer was asked what he thought about that Churchill quote: "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." The cheeky chap replied, "We thought he was talking about our mess bill." :0)
I love how after the initial dialogue of Michael Caine's character, the original audio is replaced with Hans Zimmer's soundtrack, and not just to make sure that the original audio doesn't interrupt the added layer. The tension from the soundtrack is practically amplified by the lack of other audio, leaving the sounds and voices to the viewer's imagination. Very well done.
All the Agony,Fear, Anxiety boxed in one single track. That's -- Supermarine for you. A masterpiece. Awesome editing ❤, now I'm compelled to watch 'Battle of Britain'
Yes! But before you do, please watch Hardthrasher's Series on the battle first. It's entertaining and gives complete historical background in an amusing way.
Battle of Britain is still and probably will forever be the best aviation movie ever. A modern movie nowadays could not do aerial scenes like this with so many real aircraft.
They would not be able to find enough these aircraft to make this movie now. It have to be CGI and we know what happens when thise guys get involed. The reality of physics get thrown out window and you get crap battle scenes with aircraft doing imposible maneuvers like in Midway and the most recent Peal Harbour movies . Both of which watching once was enough.
Thank you for posting this. For me the Spitfire and Hurricane remain the ultimate symbols of liberty. The right planes for the right men at that desperate time.
@@nihilistcentraluk442 we survived because young men paid the ultimate sacrifice for this country with their lives. We stood alone to fight for 2 years before the American's arrived.
Great aerial photography. He 111's, Spitfires, and ME 109's slugging it out in the air in the great battle of Brittan. I really enjoyed the back ground music written and conducted by the musical genius of Hans Zimmer.
It's the brain trick sound. if u hear long u will get fatigue. 3 tunes played simultaneously and the brain is unable to decode it and turns it into an ever increasing sound effect.
Awesome creative superposition. A compelling relentless visual dramatic and audial crescendo. The brilliance of Battle of Britain battle scenes with the brilliance of Zimmer's musical craftsmanship. Just love it....
Except most classic films have better scores than modern films...case being the score for Dunkirk v Battle of Britain (which kinda has the better music)....
@@wildfire160 Sir William Walton's 'Battle in the Air' score is perfection. It's actually quite dark in tone. Very interesting to see the Zimmer score superimposed.
This was extremely well done. The visuals from the Battle of Britain coupled with Hans Zimmer's music is extraordinary. The relationship between the action and the music was very skillfully presented. This is my all time favorite You Tube video. Congratulations on a superb job.
I saw this when it came out. There were just three people in that wide-screen theater for the matinee, so we had great seats. FYI: The aerial choreographer flew in the Eagle Squadron, flew in the movie, and took his payment in Messerschmitts and Heinkels. All German planes were bought from Spain. I was in the last remaining Heinkel a few years before it crashed. That is a cramped airplane.
'Even when you march up to White Hall we still won't listen'. No body tell Britain what to do, we tell the other nations what to do because we're British and we're dam proud of it.
Amazing I watched the movie more than a dozen times in past decades and this look totally new now. Great editing and music fitting. This is way better than the original.
I'm not sure better is the right term, I'm with you on it's brilliant and portraits the event in a way that is readily interpreted by us now, in the here and now, but maybe the generation that the original film was aimed at found the original score just as moving? Of course we all stand on the shoulders of our forefathers
The late Ron Goodwin, with his cheeky, knowing smile as if he was constantly giggling about something, used to live in Kerikeri here in NZ in his final years. I am proud to say I knew him well and worked with him conducting a few times in our symphony orchestra. Although not a strong conductor in his waning years due to age, there was an instance when a part was incorrect in the horn section. He wrote it out by memory during our coffee break. And because the horn player noticed it, he 'adjusted' the part to give the musician a bit of 'lolly' for being on the ball. One of the most incredible artists and craftsmen I've ever met in nearly four decades of my career.
I know this may sound romantic BS, but it was from an elderly lady who told me what she saw one day during that summer. Living on the south coast she watched the dog fight overhead/ out to sea. But the particular point she made was the returning RAF aircraft, she said they were Spits, flew very low with their canopy back. The pilot of the leading aircraft had his hand sticking out giving a thumbs up. How amazing was that. As i said, sounds like a yarn, but she told me what she saw.
Great movie real aircraft and a all-star cast of the day . The aerial scenes are great and i like this dramatic music accompanying this amazing footage
*Churhill VS Air Chief Marshal the Lord Dowding* In 1924 Churchill became Chancellor of the Exchequer and it was observed, and confessed by himself, that _doing sums_ (working with numbers) was a most arduous task that lead him to bouts of depression and anxiety. This almost lost him the Battle of Britain. During the Battle of France Churchill committed increasing numbers of fighters to the conflict. Dowding finally confronted Churchill and reminded him that the 25 squadrons available for the Battle of Britain was less than half of the number of 52 squadrons Dowding had previously explained to Winston as the absolute minimum. Churchill said said "52 squadrons? I'm sure you said it was 25 would be enough!"
Awesome. It just needs a sound effects re-master to go on top. Watching Dunkirk recently rekindled an admiration for practical action. The F/X in BoB are exceptional and hold up quite well, no doubt an inspiration for Nolan. More impressive still was the scale in the older movie. Many more real planes used. Great stunts. Definitely a movie worth checking out for those who haven't seen it.
May The Royal Force be with you ! Brave young men who rode on the Wings of Courage, and gain the Victory ! Peace and Blessings on them and their Souls !
Really well done. The addition of the music added gravitas to the sequence and gave hellish quality to the consequences of battle. Also goes to show how well shot those original scenes are.
Cool, just amazing. The music is a perfect match for these shots of intense air combat from World War II. The thought is giving me goosebumps. This is war...
Oh what I wouldn’t give to see this movie get a “Star Wars special edition” remaster, where the shots that look really bad like the Heinkels bombing London, and many of the shots where bullets in dogfights are nonexistent on screen as the planes couldn’t actually shoot at each other for safety reasons, could all be updated. Leave all the things that work (which is mostly everything), and fix what doesn’t.
These men were true heroes, on both sides. While Nolan takes pride in the fact he did not use CGI in his movie and while his dogfight is very well done they had no CGI at all in the day when this was made.
Bin ein Nachfahre meines Vaters , also der Sohn. Mein Vater war noch in der Luftschlacht um England beteiligt, als Aufklärer. Ich war beruflich ein Jahr in Großbritannien und habe dort immer einen guten Austausch gehabt. Mein Vater hat mir immer gesagt, das man den Sozialismus immer im Auge behalten muss und genau das läuft erneut, in Deutschland. Komme bald zu Euch und würde mich freuen, wenn wir uns darüber austauschen könnten. Wir müssen gemeinsam aufpassen, das dieses Unglück nicht erneut aufflammt, die EU und Deutschlands Politik sind gefährlich. Ich bezeichne das , als intellektueller Deutscher , als das 4. Reich!!!
This sounds like 8 minutes of a chain saw over and over, ad nauseum. I figured the person posting it did that to dodge copyright music detenction or something. People should watch the entire original movie. It's hard to get bored of it, even to this day and I saw it the year it came out. They even knew how to hold suspense by actually muting segments and letting the dozen little horrors of dying in a flaming aircraft take front and center.
Great Job !!!! Hans Zimmer is a absolut genious in composing so thight atmosphere like for Dunkirk. I love this movie, and I wish Zimmer had made the hole soundtrack for it. It fits absolutly perfect and get gooseskin watching this picture with this music. They should make a remake of Battle of Brittain. It woud be a impressive Picture with Zimmers sound.
