Dunlop TrailMax Raid 1k Mile Review with @manybikes and the

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This is my 1k Mile Review of the All New Dunlop TrailMax Raid tire! A week of commuting and 350 Hard Miles with the @FlyingMonkeyAdventureRiders on Monday's Labor Day Ride proved to be a great test for these tires. Good times with friends while riding and conquring all kinds of terrain! 90 mph highway ride to get to the meeting point... 120 miles of amazing dirt followed by 2 hours of pushing these tires in the twisties. Nice work Dunlop! Nice Work.
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@4R1P5R 21 день назад

I have the Raids mounted on my DDX Rally. I have not noticed the noise mentioned in the video. Also, the road performance of the Raid is very confidence inspiring. I am totally satisfied with the Raid.

@mtabbert86 11 месяцев назад

I've got a few thousand miles on these in a desert x. I've been calling them a 70/50 tire to my friends. Love them. The wash out is because of the huge gap between the lugs off center. If you lean the bike past that, you'll catch the outer lugs. This is super normal in mountain bike tire design, especially maxxis minion. It's super weird at first, but basically the tire is telling you to ride harder.

@manybikes 11 месяцев назад

I love how it hasn’t let me down! Strange at first for sure though!!! I’ve got 2500 miles now and they seem about 1/2 worn.

@manoloorz Год назад

Tires that don't last but Perform really well on the twisties and off road are my kind of tire 😋 im drooling at the opportunity to get a pair for my T7 🤤

@manybikes Год назад

For sure!

@howardp924 Месяц назад

One difference to mention, the Mission is bias ply the Raid is radial construction. I have a set of the Missions on a KTM 1290 SA. The wear is great but the ride with the Missions is very harsh.

@manybikes Месяц назад

Yes, this is very true. Big differences between the ride of Bias vs. Radial.

@stavrozinio Год назад

I have made 9k kms / 5,5k miles on my Norden with them, and it is a premium tire hands down. Grabs offroad as Anakee Wild, grabs asphalt like a road tire. I think modern design of the pattern has a lot to do with it. It is relistically done with offroad after 7-8k kms, but you can tour on it for sure up until 15k kms.

@manybikes Год назад

This sounds like what I am experiencing and expecting to see. Fantastic tire for sure!

@philipparana9225 Год назад

Sounds like I'll throw a set on mine

@infinityphotorob Год назад

Have you been in Sandy stuff? I wonder if the 21 inch has the same slip/ grip issue. I am in Utah so encounter sand often.

@manybikes Год назад

@@infinityphotorob both of the other bikes with these tires on that same ride were on 21” fronts (KLR & 890) and they both said they experienced the same front behavior

@manybikes Год назад

@@philipparana9225 I like them!

@mosa4688 Год назад

Man, lane splitting on a California Freeway - from this Aussie who has driven in the US a lot - you got some big cojones !!!! 🤣

@manybikes Год назад

Daily life here... Daily life. Its this or "go the flow" and get run over!

@divebobber Год назад

Much safer than NOT lane splitting!

@manybikes Год назад

Right! Gotta stay one step ahead of everyone else!

@centralcoastcruiser2084 Год назад

Thx Kyle, looking forward to how long these tires last. So far looking light weight and good in the dirt and good in the twisties on road..

@manybikes Год назад

They are great tires! I have lost 3mm of the front tire and 2mm off the rear. That is in 9 days. Don't think they will last long!

@brucegerken1063 Год назад

Sounds like there close to the ax41 s thanks again cheers.

@manybikes Год назад

Close! Super close!

@NaMinesClarence Год назад

200mi with a set on my 901E, they were pretty sketch at first but I can also confirm they wear in on rain grooves. Front feels a little vague and that always worries me but it is good to hear that others have similar reactions to the tires. Overall I am pretty happy with the ride and noise level on my 901E

@manybikes Год назад

Thanks for your feedback. Overall they are fantastic for me thus far!!!

@SaxonWinther Год назад

I’m in a weird spot, I’ve got the Heidnau K60 Scouts on my Tenere 700 and have only put a couple thousand miles on them. They loose traction in wet weather on pavement fairly easily and I’d like something more Offroad capable. Not to mention the Offroad ride quality. I bought the Heidnaus because of the long life expectancy and now I’m contemplating chucking them out for a set of these Dunlop Trailmax Raids.

@manybikes Год назад

The Raid tires are better tires everywhere hands down compared to the K60 Ranger.

@imho624 11 месяцев назад

Motoz tractionator adv!!

@TheIdlesurfer 10 месяцев назад

Exactly my experience with Heidenaus.

@eriklindhardsenact7596 10 месяцев назад

I see you got ktm I got ktm 1290 sas where did you get your wheels from?

@XLAdvRider Год назад

All points agreed except the washing out of the front. Did a ton of deep sand at High Sierra with zero issues. Keep your weight neutral and I lean fwd in turns for traction

@manybikes Год назад

Great feedback. Might be the 110-19 vs your 90/90-21 too.

@mullins6429 Год назад

Hi Kyle, thanks for the ride review. Seems like they will be a good tyre. I reckon I will give them a shot 👍🇦🇺

@manybikes Год назад

It's a neat offering for sure!

@ricerupert Год назад

Awesome review and agree 100% with the characteristics of the front tire when cornering in sand. Awesome to meet you on that Labor Day ride, will see what kind of mileage I'll get after coming back from the upcoming Dusty Lizard in Utah.

@manybikes Год назад

Fantastic riding with you! I have lost several mm off the front and a couple off the rear already. It is wearing quickly.

@PleadTheFifth_Racing 9 месяцев назад

I just ordered a set today for my 2022 Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports. I use it for on road stuff a good bit but now that I have a Ducati Streetfighter I tend to use the Honda offroad a lot more. I'll try and do a video of the tires after trying them on some different road surfaces and on ride riding as well as some offload up here in the Smoky Mountains.

@manybikes 9 месяцев назад

Nice!!!!

@BrianWillhite-j7l 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for another great tire review! I am attending the inaugural Rockfest in November, a 3-day event riding rocky trails and would love to test a set of TrailMax Raids but a Motoz DV and Adventure combo is hard to beat... Have a couple of weeks before I need to order tires, if I go with the Raids I'll post my findings here. :)

@manybikes 11 месяцев назад

Looking forward to your reply. I can provide the Motoz unless you have another source you prefer. What size tires are you looking for?

@dnbanb 11 месяцев назад

Its funny to me how the same tires act differently on different bikes. I went from the stock a41 to ax41 on my 1250gsa and it was ridiculously loud. But they were so hard to put on I just lived with it lol. Now, put on some Raids last weekend. Looking forward to trying them. So far, they handle better and warm up faster. Only issue ive had is they get pretty squirmy above 80mph but I hope that will go away once the blocks wear down some.

@manybikes 11 месяцев назад

Totally!!! My AX41 tires are not loud… that’s interesting. My Raid tires are not squirmy either, not on the 1190 nor the 390… very interesting. Love the Raids though!!! I found them to “humm” in the front of the 390, but not the 1190. Yoshimura have something to do with that ;)

@stevehicks616 Год назад

Great video and audio, I take back my smart remark from last video! I was just giving you a hard time about the last video

@manybikes Год назад

Yeah, the last on sucked! I felt I had to release something... That was not the way to do it. Thanks for keeping me honest!

@FrancoisTX1974 Год назад

Tks man, i’m looking at those tires. I tried your first video 😅😅😅.

@manybikes Год назад

Sorry for making your ears bleed! I should have scrapped it and done this to begin with. You will love them!

@TheBeardedGrump Год назад

Good review Kyle. That's definitely interesting about the front tire washing out then righting itself. I know that happens a lot in deep sand. Brian is a good guy so I'm sure he forgives you for not running the best tires on the planet Motoz or Nothing! You have a job to do 😁

@manybikes Год назад

Yeah right! The tires feel excellent. The front tire deep sand in fast corners reaction was puzzling. We shall see how they continue to do!

@adventuremulemoto 6 месяцев назад

OK I have 3K on my set now which includes a ten day run in Baja. Bike: 2022 R1250 GS. Tire sizes: 90/90-21 and 150/70-17. Rider: Advanced Intermediate. I have found the on road performance to be more than adequate and the tires are quiet. Off road performance is mixed. The front is unpredictable and cannot be trusted. It will grip, let go then re-grip. Not confidence inspiring. Rear is pretty darn good in everything. Verdict: I Love the rear but I will not buy the front again until it gets some sort of update. My 2 cents....love your work Kyle!

@manybikes 6 месяцев назад

Fantastic feedback! The front does slide, but it always catches itself. I do think an update up front would be good. I too really like the rear tire. Thanks for sharing! Much appreciated!

@adventuremulemoto 6 месяцев назад

@@manybikes If I were a better rider or perhaps younger (62 now) perhaps I would feel better about recovering the front. I heal slow now, and am kind of tired of hitting the ground 😁so I prefer a very predictable front tire.

@manybikes 6 месяцев назад

Got ya! I am loving the new Enduro Trail XT+ from Mitas. It is fantastic in the loose stuff!

@shutupandance Год назад

Just ordered a pair for my T7. Thanks for this.

@manybikes Год назад

Awesome! Where did you get them from?

@shutupandance Год назад

From Brás & Filho, a local tire retailer in Porto (I’m in the EU). €340 with the changing service.

@manybikes Год назад

Seems fair.

@howardp924 Год назад

The Trail Max Mission are a bias ply tire. Didn't realize that when I bought them. I have them on my KTM 1290 SA. Like the tires. Only weird thing is on extended highway runs they go from 40psi cold to I already seen 50psi The tires get pretty hot. Looks like thos Rally's are a radial construction. That could partially explain the less stiff sidewall and the supleness in the ride.

@manybikes Год назад

Totally! Construction is key and they sure feel good!

@johnman7251 8 месяцев назад

Most informative description of this tire’s characteristics I’ve seen, thank you Kyle. I like that you tested it on the 390, light and flexible sidewall seems like a good fit for that bike. I own one and I don’t think heavy tires on the 390 would do it justice. What skid plate are you running - looks like the factory KTM but it’s black?

@manybikes 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for your comment, much appreciated! The 390 can use and does not need tires the "big bikes" require. I painted my KTM Powerparts skid black. Looks much better! I destroyed it... and recently picked up an Outback Motortek. Will have an installation video of that here shortly.

@cameronbrown8757 6 месяцев назад

Kyle, what's your take on mixing/matching front and rear? I'm wondering about using this rear tire, but looking for a quieter more predictable front tire, maybe the Bridgestone AX41 or Motoz Dual Venture? Note: I don't care about price or mileage. I want to rail the twisties and minimal noise/vibration on the commute, and have confidence/fun in the dirt.

@manybikes 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for your inquiry. I mix and match fronts all the time. my new favorite will be the RallZ rear and the Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ front tire. Next the Motoz Dual Venture followed by the AX41 or Anakee Wild.

@theshadyeightyshow3355 Год назад

great stuff as always, appreciate you Kyle!

@manybikes Год назад

Thank you for your support!

@ogoshikimura5621 Год назад

Thanks! But what happened with the Veemoto tires? Any video coming?

@manybikes Год назад

Yes, still working on that one. Mounted them the weekend before & I had to remove them as These took precedence.

@jodyparks300 7 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for your awesome reviews! In your opinion, what is your favorite front tire for 900+cc adventure bikes for being quiet on street and good overall on dirt and pavement? I've been debating on anakee wild and dualventure, but I'm all ears to your awesome input. Thanks!

@manybikes 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for your inquiry. The Anakee Wild is great! I find the Dual Venture to have a slightly fatter profile than the Wild which leave more rubber on the ground. It's also reversible. Another similar tire is the new Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ which I am currently running and really like.

@billwaterhouse5894 Год назад

Thank you very much for this and all your reviews…not sure you know how much help you provide the community. One question, when you say it’s loud…is the front loud like my Karoo 3 (on 2023 GSA), or louder? Thanks again.

@manybikes Год назад

The Karoo 3 is louder and it is "bumpier" on the highway. Thanks for watching!

@FrancoisTX1974 Год назад

Tks for thé hard work, do you think they are loud on highway because front is a fat 19 compared to a skinny 21? I really do not like noisy tires.

@manybikes Год назад

I have been told the 90/90-21 were audible too. I'll be on that set in the upcoming weeks.

@backcountry4life Год назад

Good, honest review. Thanks!

@manybikes Год назад

Glad it was helpful! Honesty is key!

@backcountry4life Год назад

@@manybikes I’m loving my E-07s on my Tiger 800. Are the Raids a good competitor to those?

@manybikes Год назад

The Raid tires are great ... but they will not last as long as the Mitas.

@aristidis9145 10 месяцев назад

Looking good 👍 Like the perfect compromise? How do they compare to the rally str on road??

@manybikes 10 месяцев назад

Really close to the Rally STR on pavement, maybe even a hair better. I am liking them!!!

@marshall3498 Год назад

I just put a set of the dunlop trailmax raid tires on my 2023 ktm 890 adventure. I have about 130 miles all on road so far. I thought motoz tractionar adventure instead. But I'm definitely going to try them next time.

@manybikes Год назад

Very nice! As a RU-vidr its always great to try new things and report back to your subscribers. NEW things are even better for your channel. Hope you like them!

@marshall3498 Год назад

@@manybikes Yes sir that is definitely true. The front tire definitely feels alot different than the stock front tire pirelli scorpion str tires. How does the motoz dual venture front feel to you compared to raid?

@manybikes Год назад

They are both great on pavement but the Raid is more compliant. It is softer and lighter. Off road the Motoz kicks booty... deeper tread, bigger voids... Just works better. Now longevity... I have Motoz with 4k miles on them that have more tread than the Raid just off the truck prior to installation. Big differences.

@AlessandroPrescendi Год назад

Nice review Kyle 🔥. Then AX41 are still the way to go? They still perform better off road and similar in the twisties.

@manybikes Год назад

These two tires are super close in performance. I think in comfort and stickiness the Raid is the winner. Off road they are very very similar.

@trailrider1980 Год назад

@@manybikeswould you recommend an ax41 front and raid rear or just go with raid?

@XtremeCoke Год назад

Thanks for showing any great product Kyle! Is this front tyre any quieter than Rallz(Sadly yet to have DV you recommended in the UK)? PS: I got rabaconda street tyre changer too, had it earlier this year and its already paid for itself, works like a dream.

@manybikes Год назад

Love the Rabaconda!!! I find the Rallz to be not so noisy... I think they are similar.

@verdonrocksphotography3510 Год назад

looks like great rubber, nice overview, cheers V!

@manybikes Год назад

Thanks for watching! I totally agree.

@soloadvtravel Год назад

So if this is a 60/40 what is your final consensus on the RallZ? I was amazed by their on road ability myself..

@manybikes Год назад

The RallZ would still be my GoTo with a Dual Venture, AX41 or even this tire up front. The longevity of the RallZ and the meaty bite into the earth is hard to beat!

@rosenmik731 11 месяцев назад

setting aside wear for the moment and trying to choose between the Raid and Dual Venture on the front paired with Rallz on rear. There is no way to avoid some highway getting to and from dirt where I live. We also don't have alot of sand here. How would you compare the ride of the Dual Venture to the Raid front on pavement (noise, ride quality, cornering) and off pavement (rocks, dirt, gravel)? Thanks!@@manybikes

@VojtechSchubert 6 месяцев назад

Hi Kyle, awesome videos, thanks for them, viewer from the EU here! I have a question. The legal requirement for my Triumph Tiger 900 Rally here in EU is to fit tires with the speed index of at least V. All the tires I would want have a lower index of T/ TL. Now, is there any practical downside or danger in mounting speed index T instead of V? I see people all around ignoring this and fitting whatever tires they want regardless of the speed index... Opinion? :) I'd like the Trailmax Missions but so far I Have Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR which have the V index but I would want a 50/50 tire with the T index. Safe to do so? Thanks!

@manybikes 6 месяцев назад

T and TL are not typically the speed rating but Tube vs. Tubeless. That being said, T is 118 mph or 190 kph. V is 149 mph or 290 kph! Look for the Number and Letter next to each-other. For example the Motoz RallZ for your bike are a 54 Q in the front and a 69 Q in the rear. Q is 100 mph. This rating is for a sustained maximum speed. I have ridding across the desert for an entire tank of fuel at 120 mph on a set of Q rated 100 mph max tires with zero issues. Can't recommend that, but I have done it.

@bikealways Год назад

I noticed the same thing with my front Motoz Dual Venture tire. As you put on the miles the front shake dissipates. I have 4k on mine and the shake is almost gone. Maybe that is the same for these tires. I have a 22 Tuareg.

@manybikes Год назад

This might be the case... we shall see!

@alexmoreno8156 Год назад

I saw the same issue with the Dualventure front on my Tuareg 660.

@stangindude99 3 месяца назад

Kyle, what do you run for a helmet these days? I’m due for a new one and you go through way more than me haha

@manybikes 3 месяца назад

I am currently wearing a KLIM KRIOS PRO and I love it

@davidwood974 7 месяцев назад

How do these compare to the Motoz Adventures? Thank you, Kyle!

@manybikes 7 месяцев назад

There is not much similar to the TrailMax Raid and the Motoz Adventure. The Raid is a little smoother rolling on the highway, it is quieter, it has a softer compound and it is lighter. Downside... it's not as robust, tread depth is half as deep and it is not as good in deep sand and wet sticky mud.

@infinityphotorob Год назад

Man these sound pretty sweet. I think I like the idea of a more compliant sidewall. This is my biggest gripe with my Motoz now. They are just so damn stiff if the pressure is above 30. Even on pavement. I am afraid with this soft compound my 1190 will eat the rear tire rapidly. So I am curious as to your findings on the big bikes.

@manybikes Год назад

Yeah, me too!!!

@martyllanos73 Год назад

Kyle, is there any way you can test these tires out on a heavier adventure bike? I’m curious how they perform on a 1250gsa.

@manybikes Год назад

Yes, working on two larger bike testes! Stay tuned!

@martyllanos73 Год назад

@@manybikes you’re the man.

@pappaclutch3266 10 месяцев назад

Also interested in large ADV raid review

@manybikes 10 месяцев назад

@@pappaclutch3266 working on it!

@Danish-ADV Месяц назад

Where do i find one of these compound measure tools ? Have treid Google 😊

@manybikes Месяц назад

You are welcome... amzn.to/3Alt67N I really like the Analog version but here is the digital one if you like that kind of stuff: amzn.to/3YJjhLd

@MxGuru1 Год назад

Great review. How do they compare to Michellin Anakee Wild ?

@manybikes Год назад

The Wild is a touch more aggressive and up front has smaller pointier lugs which might do better in mud and sand. Similar though… similar.

@chriscleland7008 10 месяцев назад

Hey Kyle, what about a raid rear and an AX41 front for my Norden 901? The AX41’s front and rear on my 390 adventure - golden! Thinking the raid will last a little longer on the rear and the front AX41 would negate the washout issue you were describing while giving tons of grip. Thanks!

@manybikes 10 месяцев назад

I think it’d be a great combo.

@chriscleland7008 10 месяцев назад

@@manybikes Thanks, really appreciate your answer.

@chriscleland7008 10 месяцев назад

@@manybikes Since you had both the AX41 and the Raid’s for the 390 adventure, can you comment on which you prefer?

@ssmstheos 5 месяцев назад

Hey Kyle! I am looking at buying my first off-road tire and since I will be mainly driving on road it will be a 50-50. Regarding off road, mainly I want to increase my confidence because as I am currently running a Metzeler tourance and as I increase my speed, some falls followed...I should mention that there will be little to no sand riding. I am torn between the Mitas e07+ and the Dunlop trailmax raid. What would your suggestion be?

@manybikes 5 месяцев назад

Awesome!!! The Raid and the E07+ (now the Enduro Trail +) are very similar in mileage. The E07+ is a hair more aggressive. I'd recommend, from your description, the Motoz RallZ rear and a Dual Venture front or the XT+ front. This is the best traction with great longevity.

@ssmstheos 5 месяцев назад

@@manybikes Thank you very much for reply! It is amazing that you find the time to reply to all these queries.

@manybikes 5 месяцев назад

@@ssmstheos yes Sir! Follow up is key. Enjoy your first off road tire!!

@hillkiran Год назад

How does it compare to the AX41 (That's my new favorite tire, its so good on the loose rocks and rain grooves, both of which I am afraid of normally)

@manybikes Год назад

The first few days the rain groves were not my friend... but now after 1000+ miles they have mellowed out. These tires are a tad more compliant off road as compared to the AX41. Similar grip but these are smoother.

@roykeowen368 Год назад

Great video. What pressures are you running in these bad boys? Thanks!

@manybikes Год назад

30 PSI for this trip.

@howardp924 Год назад

What rims are those? Just noticed the BMW style lacing.

@manybikes Год назад

VMX Tubeless Wheels and I love them! www.vmx-racing.com/

@johnstaring3210 Год назад

Fronts only are available in Australia sadly at this stage.

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

I have them available in Poland for quite some time already. Expensive

@manybikes Год назад

That is a bummer! Yeah, $150 for my front and $280 for my rear. Pricy but they feel good!

@kiwikidusa Год назад

Excellent review. I was wondering how they'd perform off road particularly in sand. Did you guys ride up to Onyx Peak on 1N01A?

@manybikes Год назад

I am unsure what Onyx peak is... I was playing follow the leader. They did perform well in deep sand.

@kiwikidusa Год назад

I'm not sure where you are based; San Diego or San Bernardino. But, the most exciting way to get to Onyx Peak is from near Pioneertown (north west of Yucca Valley) off 247. You start at Pioneertown Mountains Preserve. Or the easy way is from 38 where it crests before you go into Big Bear Valley. But last time I checked last year they had the entrance blocked.@@manybikes

@manybikes Год назад

@@kiwikidusa let’s do it!!!

@glennmcguire5571 11 месяцев назад

Great review. Just sold the T7 and picked up a 2023 KTM 390 Adventure, the TKC 70 are actually doing a pretty good job, but I know I will be switching out tires. Just have to decide, not these, have you had a tire on the 390 that you thought was a really good set-up road and dirt. I was thinking the AX41's or Motoz GPS, but would like to hear your thought's for the 390. Thank You.

@manybikes 11 месяцев назад

Awesome. The 390 is a blast. I love the AX41 tires they wear pretty quick. Check this out: Bridgestone Battlax Adventurecross AX41 5k Mile Tire Review | Kyle's Favorite 50/50+ Adv Tire ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mFLqfneIfnI.html The Motoz Adv is the most well rounded rear, I prefer the AX41 up front. I’m trying the Hitman 55 by VeeMoto. It’s really light … nice and inexpensive too.

@glennmcguire5571 11 месяцев назад

On the T7 I had the DV front and Adventure rear. I have never heard of Hitman. Thanks for getting back to me and I hope all is well.@@manybikes

@manybikes 11 месяцев назад

@@glennmcguire5571 living life! Here are the details & First Look of the VeeMoto Hitman 55 Adventure Tires ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r6MjB5wdQD8.html here is the ride… ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZwRfxAQbxco.html

@rosenmik731 Год назад

from a grip perspective how do they compare to the Mitas E07+ (came on my 890) both on and off road. guessing the E07+ will last longer.

@manybikes Год назад

These are hands down better in the soft stuff and the compound is way softer. They will burn up quickly but will work really really well.

@TomásLongo-h3v Год назад

Just out of curiosity, what rims are you using? I love the cross spokes

@manybikes Год назад

Yes, I love them too! VMX wheels, you can check them out here: www.vmx-racing.com/

@hazcat640 Год назад

Dunlop TrailMix - sounds 'chewy'. 😆

@manybikes Год назад

Ha! Ha! Ha!

@aspire2inspire732 2 месяца назад

I'd like to know who makes those wheels for the 390 adv & where to get them? TY!

@manybikes 2 месяца назад

@@aspire2inspire732 VMX wheels from KKE Racing out of Corona California. www.kkeracing.com/products/vmx-2-5-19-3-5-17-spoked-tubeless-wheels-rims-set-for-ktm390-adventure-2020-2022

@aspire2inspire732 2 месяца назад

@@manybikesBought a set this morning, thanks!

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Yo your wisdom is needed, im thinking ktc80 front and motoz adventure rear, what mileage do you think can be expected on tkc80 front? I know u always talk how tkc80 is short lived but i think its mostly just rear thats bad, on fronts there are extremely different opinions. Im axing cuz i have very cheap tkc80 available from 2021, like 65$. Similar price i can have mt21 or mitas mc23 but i think they too aggressive for me for Africa twin, want something more road worthy, so tkc80 tread pattern seems perfect for me, all other front knobbies are either shallow or full offroad focused. There is adv front tire but its expensive, and this one reviewed here but even more expensive and mileage doesn't look promising especially foe that price tag; Cheers

@Angry-Lynx Год назад

Wish they would do more aggressive trailmax mission front with like 10% more space between lugs and more depth, that would be perfect tire for me

@manybikes Год назад

If you can get cheap TKC80 Fronts... Do It! They pair perfectly with the Motoz rear tires. Dunlop does now make a more aggressive tire than the Mission... it is the RAID and I have been on it for three weeks now. It is great thus far... my 1k mile review is posted if you are interested.

@boognish593 10 месяцев назад

How are on wet pavement? Better than the missions in that regard?

@manybikes 10 месяцев назад

WAY better!!!!!

@fernangalindez8912 Год назад

Are they better on road than the Rallz ?

@manybikes Год назад

They are softer and smoother on the highway and in the twisties. They give more feedback than the RallZ. Better? Maybe but only for a short period of time.

@Bruno-my9uf 10 месяцев назад

Please tell me how noise they are. .i got a 1200 gs . i like to try them next

@manybikes 10 месяцев назад

The front has a humm... but its not loud. Other than that they are pretty quiet.

@OneOldManRiding Год назад

Hmm... when a wheel slides or deflects, it cannot bring the bike back to the original position on its own. The direction has changed, and further input is required change the direction a second time. That "coming back" sounds like your muscle memory correcting the change Kyle. Kyle's skills or magic tire behavior? I think it's Kyle. - Frank

@manybikes Год назад

It was interesting for sure Frank! I have not experienced a front like that in the past, that is for sure. These tires sure are comfortable though!

@houjous5131 Год назад

What would you suggest for a softer tire in the front? These are definitely at the top of my list as we start looking at the snow season. I'm pairing the motoz rallz rear, so the DV is also high on the list too. (90/90/21")

@manybikes Год назад

Softer?! This Raid tire is hands down the softest ADV tire compound I have seen yet!!!

@houjous5131 Год назад

@@manybikes that's what I was thinking, but I wanted to make sure I didn't have any blindspots in the market. I'm starting to prepare for winter riding. Thanks for the reply.

@manybikes Год назад

My pleasure! Good luck in your prep!

@kysakexpress Год назад

I've riden with them now 6k kms/3,8k miles and on the street they are great, in wet as well. But what made me change them, is when I went to Romania for 3 day enduro with T7, they tend to slip sideways. I never dropped the bike because of it, the tire seem to catch the grip back, but what if it doesn't. Exactly as said in the video. I changed for Mitas E-13 front, and it is much better in hard enduro setting (as they should be, Dunlops I think were not designed this way, so no fault of the tire itself), I order second set of Excel rims for T7 for hard enduro purposes where I can use 140/80, but for the original I'll but these again for sure. They are not as good as Mitas E-12/13 in hard enduro, but they are not desinged for this, and saying that I've managed to ride the bike the same roads as others with much more aggressive tires. Also in the dirt I ride at 1.5 bar/22 psi.

@manybikes Год назад

Great feedback! Thank you for sharing your findings.

@geoffreykrueger5562 Год назад

I'm wondering how these would do on a 701...

@manybikes Год назад

Probably really good.

@imho624 11 месяцев назад

You lost me at “wash out”. I’m sticking with the motoz rallz on my Norden

@manybikes 11 месяцев назад

The Rallz are RAD!

@scottyducati35 Год назад

What pressures are you running off road?

@manybikes Год назад

For all of my testing I am running 30 psi in all locations. This gives an equal baseline. In real life I do air up and air down depending on need and terrain.

@Manta84adam Год назад

Hello Kyle, are these Raids better on tarmac than AX41, please? Which one would you choose for race track, Raids or AX41 (Yes, I understand none of those is a track tire).

@manybikes Год назад

Ha! Ha! Ha! Here I am on my GSA at Laguna Seca on TKC80s! So fun! I would choose the Raid over the AX41 for a day at the track. My durometer reading was 64 but has dropped to 58 on the rear tire! This thing is SOFT and hooks up great.

@Manta84adam Год назад

Thank you!@@manybikes

@manybikes Год назад

My pleasure!

@marcin76454 Год назад

Hi, i wonder for my triumph tiger rally explorer to change on these dunlop raid or karoo 4 ? Which one do You think will be beter ?

@manybikes Год назад

They are both great. The Karoo 4 has deeper tread and a more uniform pattern. The Dunlop TrailMax Raid is more comfortable on the pavement and provided better feedback from the road. The Karoo 4 is the king of wet roads.

@marcin76454 Год назад

@@manybikes thanks for information. And which of them in your opinion will last longer?

@manybikes Год назад

@@marcin76454 from what I’m seeing at the moment… the Karoo 4, but not by much.

@GhostRiderADV Год назад

How about in the mud how do they do

@manybikes Год назад

We don’t have any of that here ;) I’ll have to make some …

@rosenmik731 Год назад

Any update on longevity?

@manybikes Год назад

1600 miles in and they are probably getting close to half worn.

@trailrider1980 10 месяцев назад

@@manybikesI can confirmed the same wear on my vstrom 800 de. However, i am getting a fairly loud howling noise from the rear tire. I know it is there as it goes away or decreases if I run the rear tire at 25-27 psi. The noise starts at 38 mph and it is consistent until 45 mph. Have you experience this?

@bobcob3362 Год назад

Will this tire changer work on harley davidson pan america laced spoked rims?

@kalimarus Год назад

It should with the accessory duckhead. I have the rabaconda and use it on my Africa Twin with laced spoked tubeless, spokes on the outside of the rim. It's a really good tire changer.

@CurtisBrandt Год назад

Rabaconda has also been really responsive to my questions. Could always verify with them.

@manybikes Год назад

Yes, 100% Such an easy opperation!

@manybikes Год назад

Works!

@tbone11x 4 месяца назад

Anyone try a raid on the front and a mission on the back?

@manybikes 4 месяца назад

What would be the reason you'd want to run that combo? What would you look to accomplish?

@tbone11x 4 месяца назад

@manybikes increase the longevity of the tires while maintaining the grip on asphalt of the e804/805s and be able to ride on the dirt with my brother in law on his 250 rally. Also not be vibrated to death on long highway stretches which is a necessity where I live, approximate 2-4 hour highway stretches.

@manybikes 4 месяца назад

@@tbone11x I'd recommend the Raid front and rear. I've got almost 7k miles on my set now and they still have life! And... they roll smooth while providing great off road traction.

@gw2shibarashi674 Год назад

is this bike 390 adv any good ?

@manybikes Год назад

It’s a fantastic machine! It’ll go anywhere the big bikes will go… but only at 100 mph. Off road it’s actually less of a handful than my 950 or 1190. And it gets 50 mpg at a sustained 90 mph. Great machine!

@alrightdave6135 10 месяцев назад

What about mud?

@manybikes 10 месяцев назад

Ok, but not the best. I’ve ridden in it once.

@divebobber Год назад

I just got back from my first 20 mile ride on the Raids on a DR650 and cannot tell any difference in sound between these and the Missions I took off. Of course, I'm hard of hearing, so that might have something to do with it. As far as them washing out in sand, I don't know yet. But my Missions definitely washed out in sand and moon dust. I almost dumped it about five times in the moon dust. I'd start to turn and the wheel would just go straight.

@manybikes Год назад

The deep dust can be challenging on any tire. Thanks for sharing your feedback!

@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 Год назад

If your getting new tyres “ GET THE GOLDENTYRES , they will blow you away especially the GT 723 and 823 .

@manybikes Год назад

I wish there was a reliable source for them here...

@yetiboy01australia23 Год назад

GT723 90/90-21 is my unicorn front tyre for my 701, nothing comes close for a great all rounder tyre, love to try the rear but at more than twice the price of the D606 I cant see that happening anytime soon.

@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 Год назад

@@yetiboy01australia23 I had the rear on my RS 650 a fantastic grippy tyre but as you say VERY expensive, and actually the difference between the 723 , Motoz Rallz and the D606 wasn’t that obvious ( and 606 is WAY cheaper ) , but definitely MT21 Rallycross front for me and I actually even like the Motoz Desert HT ( off road only I reckon as it’s noisy as on road but sticks like shit to a blanket off road )

@petertelford4900 11 месяцев назад

Gidday from Australia check dunlop the raid are 50/50 not 60/40

@manybikes 11 месяцев назад

My Dunlop sources say 60% Dirt / 40% Street for the Raid. And... Dunlop's website says, "TRAILMAX RAID 40/60 ADVENTURE TIRE" You can check it out here: www.dunlopmotorcycletires.com/tire-line/trailmax-raid/

@noostNL Год назад

60/40? The website says 50/50

@manybikes Год назад

They changed it then... all the propaganda I received says 60 Dirt 40 Street. Their 50/50 tire is the Mission ...

@adamniswonger8015 Год назад

It’s a pretty wide tire for the front of that bike.

@chrispederson4157 Год назад

Probably the wide part can contribute to weird front end feel in the sand. Floats but doesn’t grab like a skinny tire.

@manybikes Год назад

Yeah, maybe. The stock was a 100 and this is a 110.

@manybikes Год назад

Yeah, could be.

@chrispederson4157 Год назад

Compared tp 90/21@@manybikes

@manybikes Год назад

@@chrispederson4157 oh for sure, compared to the 90/90-12 it’s a huge difference. BMW and KTM “s” model rim sixes here. For sure handled twisties more planted.

@gabrielkopp2036 Год назад

Rocky Mt has them now and they are 30 dollars more than motoz ralz or adventure

@manybikes Год назад

Interesting. Just added the link, thank you. It is a great all around tire... as for longevity we will see!

@gabrielkopp2036 Год назад

@@manybikesnot sure if they are woth the extra cost yet

@manybikes Год назад

@@gabrielkopp2036 if they wear as fast as I expect they will be 2x the price after running two sets for the same mileage as other brands. But they FEEL So GOOD!

@gabrielkopp2036 Год назад

@@manybikeshow miles do you have on them now? How much wear in said miles? If I can 5k plus out a tire I'm all about trying them out

@manybikes Год назад

1400 miles thus far... They are showing signs of wear... Probably a 3k to 4k rear tire on the 390 but I am sure the 1190 will eat them for lunch. That is my next test.