"Duryard!" | Two Of These People Are Lying 1x03 | The Technical Difficulties 

aww, that's it‽

unni my thought exactly

MOAR

Series 2 please!

Aw man, this series is amazing!

And he's quite good at it

He got a point though!

Tomato Bastard, well playing to make Tom Lose is a win in and of itself, don't you agree you god damned Tomato Bastard? Oh and... Jävlar anamma en talande tomat.

@@Cruxador just the way he is sat

He's absolutely nailed the meta game of that.

And they're like, 'it's better than York."

Matt definitely was the one who hearted this

@@adiuntesserande6893 i love you ppl....

@@zvign7554 I'll teach you, but... you'll have to be a student at Exeter.

Hfjgjgfdhrrdfjyy this is comedy gold

Its weird to see Tom called Thomas

Eh, I regard this more as pilot episodes.

Don't put it all on Thomas. Matthew shares equal responsibility for this channel.

Without @UCintjmzn5Ic_EKmVY5PH1SA's comment I wouldn't even have realised that "Thomas" refers to Tom; I'd assumed OP is a Thomas and signed their comment like some old person. Anyway, about season 2: How about changing the rules so instead of getting a point for convincing the guesser (whether that'll be Tom again or someone else), you get a point for misleading them? (So if you're lying nothing changes, but if you're telling the truth, you want to not get picked, but to achieve that you can't be too obvious about it. Maybe there should be a referee who makes sure that you didn't say anything false.) This suggestion is inspired by the outcome of the 1st round. (Gary: "Well, that's a shame, but I had fun.") Oh, and now that I'm continuing to watch the rest of the video, Tom says: "That's not how the game's meant to work, Gary!" That convinces me even more that it would be fun to see what would happen if the game was meant to work that way. Of course this would make the task of the guesser more difficult. So how about this: The BS artists are guests who go through a tournament-style bracket (like in Lateral or Game On). In each round, they can score up to three points, because they have to convince (or mislead) Chris, Gary, and Matt - the guessers, who take turns asking questions and then decide individually. Tom gets his laptop back and is host and referee. Matt gets his headphones back and directs the show and mixes the audio while trying to concentrate on what the contestants are saying. Yeah that's slightly sadistic, but I know he can do it and it's just so nice to see a broadcast engineer of that calibre at work. In case the score is tied, the contestants still in the running will have to brave a short and extremely silly bonus round. E.g. a Burt Bacharach's back crack sack race.

We want more!

IS IT JUST ME OR WAS HE PRONOUNCING IT WRONG TOO

AS SOMEONE FROM DEVON SO DID I

nice pfp

@@pinkertonbyweezer agreed

Same here

xD thats when you know its an obscure wikipedia article

It's at the 'back' of the university, a bit further away from the city centre than Imperial or Birk's Grange, starting at Lower Argyle Road. I used to live there

@@alejoblack368 If you had a garden where you grew Durio zibethinus trees, it could have been a Duryard durian yard!

@@piranha031091 urgh

@@halimceria I feel you

It's either from their podcasts or the early Citation Needed

@@Trek001 early Citation Needed I think

Nah, I did exactly the same

@@OlanKenny I think it's in the Reverse Trivia podcasts.

They also mentioned it in an episode of the park bench

Miren Summers this is accurate

Marcel and Judith

When Matt isn't talking in circles

Mononym

Be the change to want to see in the world.

And 7...

@@maxximumb And 8...

Maybe 9...

Why stop at 9 it is like the park bench across years

twenty

Timothy McLean Tbh it’s one of my favorite running gags in citation needed even though I have no idea who Tim Westwood is

@@nataliemccarthy9140 He hosts "Pimp My Ride UK", and is a DJ and TV/radio host

Three times?

Probably not that weirdly specific if you're a Brit for whom the name is familiar in pop culture.

@@ZeldaTheSwordsman It is with a heavy heart that I confess to being American, rather than British.

You have to be REALLY good at something to pretend you're that bad at it

@@fredhenry101 I thought maybe he was pulling a long con by pretending to be bad when he's telling the truth so Tom can't tell when he's lying but this was the last episode so....

Tbh in this episode it was more that the others weren't properly listening. Gary said students at Uni Exeter live there, it's a residence And they conclude "Oh so youre saying Duryard has a university"

I think what it is is, he's not the best at memorizing stuff from an article at a quick read. Which makes him vulnerable to whiffing the presentation.

It seemed like his game was to make Tom think it wasn't him :D

@@Carewolf But thats not how this works

I have a feeling Gary was just enjoying messing with Tom

@@obliviousotterI Convincing Tom it's NOT your answer when it actually is should also be points, to be honest.

I spot a pattern here. Remember Lentokenttä, which somewhat implausibly had a population of 12 and an airport? And was true, it being that obscure small division of Vantaa that contains Helsinki Vantaa Airport and... not a lot of houses. So Gary tries a similar tactic: that part of Exeter (perhaps obscure for people who don't live in Exeter?) which contains the university.

You made me laugh harder than today's episode. Good stuff ^^

Triangular glandular leaves

Gary "*pencil scratching sound*" Brannan

Or Matt "Latin GCSE" Gray

@@DSP1337 :)

Named after a player who's name is Run

Maybe Gary would do better if he stopped trying to convince Tom it's not his when it is.

@@AgentTasmania Yeah, but that wouldn't be as hilarious

​@@AgentTasmaniawell and maybe itll help in the long run

Chert. It's distracting.

@@fanbladeinstruments omg it's been so long since I heard that gag, I can't remember if it was originally chert or if this is some weird gag based on that one

I initially thought he was talking about the Cabaret Voltaire guy from Sheffield!

Funny you call it obscure because it's definitely not that obscure where I live.

So Matt described an actual album that exists and then just applied the name Willoughby Run to it? That's too funny

So has Willoughby Run

Well seeing as we've seen Matt's Kitchen here, Gary's Kitchen, and Chris's Kitchen, I presume we have to assume this until they record in Tom's Kitchen.

so a tardis basically?

Tom has a tiny flat I believe. Also pre-recording

It's a tardis stuck as a dining room

Well the void is red so makes sense

Right next to Ike's farm and New Oxford

So that's where I heard that name before!

I figured when he said Adams County that he wouldn’t have picked that county name as a guess.

sirrliv I didn’t get the joke. How was Matt’s article metagamimg?

He had picked Slightly Latin as one of his articles and just changed the name to Willoughby Run to fit the round.

yeah it took me about 5 or 10 repeat viewings over two years to finally get what he was saying... Only then did I realize that this being the last one they were doing meant he wouldn't need his article anymore so he could just pretend his article had been drawn and just replace the name.

@@sourcererseven3858 I rewatched it and you can hear him unfolding his article at the end to show the others that Slightly Latin was the one he wrote down.

Funny that, he said "creek in Pennsylvania" and I was like "yeah whatever, Matt is the one telling the truth", but then he said "Adams county" and I thought to myself: it's not very Brannan-ly to know the name of a county in southern PA. speaking of which, hello from your eastern neighbor county

But its funny so it works

Or reciting yours anyway if Slightly Latin was in the pile

Yeah I mean, this is only a flaw if the players are actually motivated to do that. Just don't.

I mean, you call it a problem, but leaving Tom spluttering and confused is probably the best return on investment the viewing audience is going to get, so might as well go for it.

Tom is either godlike or horrible in the other position.

Muffi Gaming Horrible, according to Gary.

well they could swap each season

yeah, and make the person who guesses who is not bullshiting rotate, or like, show guests. That would solve the issue of knowing the handwritings

oh my god

Then Tom called Chris out on saying stuff that weren't in the article, after asking Chris about something not in the article. Tom really can't understand his own questions.

⁠@@Liggliluffi thought that 😂 tom: tell me about the article chris: tells tom about the article tom: asks a question that’s not about the article chris: answers the question that’s not about the article tom: i don’t believe that’s from the article he got so distracted by the chert he forgot how to play the game

Harvey Soper you’ll never know, but be assured, it was peachy.

I'm almost certain that he messed up on purpose

Lost to the ages.

Maybe the real opening line was that he had no opening line.

The real opening line was the friends we made along the way.

I'm highly suspicious here that Chris may have known a bit about Nebraska, because there's an Exeter Nebraska that really is a railroad town and was part of the western expansion... and if he knew in advance that Duryard was in Exeter, the connection there is an insane show of genius. Either that, or the whole thing is an insane bit of coincidence.

He reads books, you know.

"Chert: It's distracting!"

Burt Bacarach was mentioned in Citation Needed too.

Specifically in the Hydraulic Telegraph if I am not to be mistaken.

@@oz_jones Also on the Park Bench, where Matt and Tom disagreed on exactly how the joke should be phrased. (For the record, I agree with Tom: rhythm matters.)

Except that line could have just been a bluff

I don't really get this comment. The only moment in the episode I find this to be relevant was after Tom guessed Chris and was wrong, therefore there's only two left.

That's not how randomness works. Even if something has a nearly nil chance of occurring, it can still happen several times in a row. It's kind of like people playing XCOM complaining that a 92% chance to hit missed a couple of times.

@@ShroudedWolf51 Those people do have a point though, don't they? Randomness in a good game should sacrifice some of its random nature to be more in line with the average perception of randomness.

@@Kubboz The issue in this context is that true randomness is necessary in order to make sure that Tom can only guess based on the game itself. If Tom knew, based on the last person to have their article chosen, that they were then *less* likely to have their article chosen, he could use that information to make a more accurate guess.

@@Spenfen Yes, that is right. I did not have the issue with the game itself, it's more about the analogy ShroudedWolf used. Guess it was a little bit nitpicky.

(2/3)^6 is about 9%, so it was not as vanishingly unlikely as I initially thought

Don’t we all

I think for rotating the guesser inside of an episode they'd want to have a 5th person to handle the papers. Maybe they'll do another go with someone else at the wheel?

Tom should get other English RU-vidrs and rotate the other three. Or have him be one of the article bearer.

I forget which it was, but either Matt or Gary on Twitter mentioned that Tom isn't pulling any articles because he's terrible at lying.

Ricky Cruz Fair enough. It’s still fun to see him participate more actively in the game, instead of just being quiz master and cat herder.

@@peterknutsen3070 +

It's also one of the other songs on the Roland Kirk album

I believe there’s one coming out on Christmas Eve or Day (I forget) and another one on New Years Eve or Day (again... I forget!!) 😆

I think he might be bad at remembering from a rapid read, considering how badly he flubbed this and Hurcon.

It’s up there with describing Fingal’s Cave as having “all sea in it!”

Nillie Ah, I knew it reminded me of something! I still go back and listen to the old audio eps from time to time, they’re bloody brilliant!

No because basically everyone would end up talking shite which basically negates the premise of the game.

While doing a Michael Caine impression.

Only slightly Latin.

With a good large helping of Call My Bluff.