If you disagree with the result, I am more than glad to tell you how The Human can easily stomp Dust if they actually used everything they had and didn't decided to play by the rules to have fun.
@Kuroifah2678 Thrn why did you say "points taken doesn't settle the final score?" When The Human got more points in this case? And no, Humans SOULS are stronger than Monsters, not anything else.
@@user153xhzbso8e the vessel or the player ? because the player already give up on trying. Still, they can come back at anytime. Murder solos, as long as the player don't play dirty and start exploiting. Either murder sans use inverse hax, such like fight box to win or the player just isn't skilled enough. The player deleting the game results his vessel to being deleted too. So it depends on which one you're talking about.
@whosthat6048 Both, it's a Player controlling a vessel. In one of the endings that is since the player just rage quits. Murder even with that has a 5% chance to beat The Human Extreme Diff considering they can come back and he can't unless TH brings him back. You mean him having his turn? Because he can do that yes, and the creators already said Dust is just as skilled as the player. You know they can delete certain things too right? Files and all that, they can do that, so they can literally also whip out Dusts memory and have him go back to Sans if they really wanted to, they overall just solo, it's basically like saying who wins between Dust and Player from UnderPlayer.
It depends. Dustale have multiple endings. There’s one that Frisk out of the player’s control and managed to get a happy ending. There’s one which Dust made the Human Ragequit. In both endings, the winner is Dust.
Actually the happy ending that you talked about is not canon and is only from the fangame, there is an canon ending where frisk promises sans that they won’t do another genocide run however the player is still partially in control of frisk.
Canon endings : Neutral ending : dust is still in his way to try defeat the human.. Dustbelief ending : the human promised to reset and never do G route again but sans is sus of that. Abandoned ending : sans won but at the cost that he will be alone he tried resetting but when he did he realized the human came back but then sans did everything all over again and decided to never ever reset.
@@panconhuevo3656 it isn't about the level Chara can still kill dust sans in one hit plus she came back everytime when she dies And she slowly learning his attacks and stuff Sans can't come back like her
@@albertonegold1225 yes his story is the player started to back the game using cheats and hacks to beat undertale over and over again and sans started knowing your doing all of this and since the player used the cheats too much it started corrupting sans code making him vhs sans
@@theJpleaseEasily, first, he uses random attack movement every time the human dies, so the human has no chance of remembering his attacks, second, Sans has LV 19 (or 18 the creator said it can go both ways), also, he's an unstoppable killing machine with worn out madness, means he's more concentrated on the fight than suffering from loss, so the human with LV 3 or 4 is FUCKED in this situation.
Fun fact: the scream at the beginning of the edit was from the show Obi-Wan Kenobi. Darth Vader yells out Obi-Wan's name because Obi-Wan walked away from Darth Vader after he was defeated.
tbh, let's be serious, if we put frisk against murder alone then frisk will lose since they won't have save and loads against somebody who has more determination, the reason murder canonically loses, because of the player.
This is a bloodlusted Human who's using everything which includes deletion (which they have but they don't use) and that only happens in ONE of the endings, in another TH just deletes the whole timeline. And if you want, I can tell you why TH would slam Murder if they used all of their arsenal.
@@lucas_kzx The Human can do this as well tho? The Human is the one that is in DustTale, there is no Frisk. They have been said to be able to delete everything if they really wanted to.
@@user153xhzbso8e, by "human" are you referring to the "player" the real person in the real world playing the game or are you referring to frisk. Because frisk can't do any of that
Those chara have us like the player irl if so she wins but if not she loses cause who's there to hit that restart and plus we all be dying in them undertale games🗿☕
It would prob be high diff or dust sans winning at high-extreme diff, because Dust also has levels, which makes him grow in power, and he has a lot more powers than the original Sans.
fun fact: frisk/the human strength is compared to one punch man and goku compared to undertale AUs and fanmade games. (depends if the fangames kill you immediately and be unfair)
The thing is the human could delete the game but it would mean dust or murder sans already won because it would eternal peace with no player or human attacking him but if the human tried to hack dusttale it would just make vhs sans a sans who code is corrupted by the player cheating and hacking and sans knows your hacking for murder since it’s possible
i like how ability goes to the human and speed goes to sans. The human is the one that can wipe out the entire underground in one day and sans is the one with monster magic, being able to use blue soul power, bones, and gaster blasters. Also being able to use quantam physics to manipulate the timeline and make the human the victim of resets. What does the human have? Their knife? Yeah, I don't think they won the ability point.
The gameplay always nerf the character + the game is not Canon too + the human has multiversal AP while dust has small building 1 hit from the human is enough
Dust sans in the canon killed a man and was left alone in the dungeon, as well as dust sans have 20 lvl, 90-99 hp and attacks are many times stronger than those of a person
Dust Sans loses to the human because Dust is completey fanon to The Dusttale Novel. Dust Sans regrets killing everyone and is trapped in a repeating loop and he cant win. Whereas Murderer beat the human with ease and doesnt regret killing anyone expect for Papyrus.
Remember if we are talking really from what we can do from the lore frisk vs dust is easily just neg difficulty for dust but if not and if it's player vs dust then neg difficult for player
There are two canonical endings in Dust's story and all are bad, if Dust doesn't have a good ending, in the first Pyal loses to Man, and in the second he wins and remains alone in the universe, so they have a draw
@@FADIANSYAH-INDONESIA Although he is strong, this will always not be enough to be the first in terms of strength, maybe he will be the first among the famous au, but if you think about it, everything is known, this is only the tip of the iceberg, isn't it?
Uhh no. Murder has more strength as confirmed in ask dusttale. Also oneshotted LV 10 undyne with a few bones and undying with a blaster. Oneshotted toriel in LV 1. destroyed ruins door in LV 1. Murder is mach 3 speed in ask dusttale so even if he couldnt win against the human, he could just win by using his insane speed. Currently mountain level. Of course hax goes to the human. Do i even need to explain further on how he beats the hell out of the human? He killed the human so many times they quit. Also another fact, he cant see save stars but he can destroy them if the human is undetermined.
Well really, second dimensional beings don't stand a chance against third dimensional beings, but there are still some parts you said that don't make sense, like making DustTale become Undertale, because even if you delete one, there will be infinite other DustTales, even with several robots it would not be possible to delete everything.
Actually since this is a debate video we can assume this is the first time frisk be fighting dust sans so in a very logical assumption sans no diffs since the player would need a 2nd try unless your god and defeated dust first try
