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Dwarf Fortress: What Happens When It Becomes A Game? The Zach and Tarn Adams Interviews 

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(Chapter markers below) Zach and Tarn Adams, creators of Dwarf Fortress, talk about developing their game for over 15 years - including various personal and professional topics.
CHAPTERS:
* Modeling Surprises: Philosophy and the Challenges of Meaning (6:27)
* Understanding Life: Dwarf Fortress as Medium Towards Enlightenment (13:08)
* Metrics of Success: Community and Motivation (19:39)
* Finishing Dwarf Fortress: Beyond Quality? (25:24)
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Special thanks to Siolo Thompson, the /r/dwarffortress/ community, especially to u/WORD_559. Recorded in Seattle, October 2017. Thanks to all project patrons: Patrick Tejada, Adam Nogueira Hadar, Matthias Glöckner, leafthief, MidiRiots, Andreas Varga, Ted Lemon, Black Heart Press, Lukas Kalmar, Philippa Shepley Annamaria Kowalsky, Matej 'Retro' Jan (Retronator), Dean Jürges, Phil Dougherty - and my parents: Leo & Angelika Bazant-Hegemark.
(c) Christian Bazant-Hegemark
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== MEDIA CREDITS ==
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The video contains a complete list of referenced media at the very end. This list here only contains links to VIDEOS (the full list was too long to be pasted here).
Dancing Demon - The TRS-80 Classic
Credit: pacbilly
Source: • Dancing Demon - The TR...
Commodore 64, C64 FOR LOOP, using a mechanical keyboard
Credit: Herb Meehan
Source: • Video
Slaves to Armok: God of Blood
Credit: A Tomato
Source: • Slaves to Armok: God o...
Rogue - The Original Roguelike
Credit: Scott Manley / / szyzyg
Source: • Rogue - The Original R...
Dwarf Fortress for New Players ~ 70 Legends Mode and Exporting Maps and Histories
Credit: DasTactic
Source: • Video
Dwarf Fortress (Edward)
Credit: thoughtbot (adapted: showing only zoomed in portion of the original video)
Source: • Dwarf Fortress (Edward)
Armok Invaders
Credit: BaronW (BaronWable)
Sources:
* dwarffortresswi...
* • Armok Invaders
Dwarf Fortress for New Players ~ 58 Fluid Dynamics
Credit: DasTactic
Source: • Video
Dwarf Fortress Design Inspirations - Zach and Tarn Adams
Credit: Roguelike Celebration
Source: • Dwarf Fortress Design ...
Rogue - The Original Roguelike
Credit: Scott Manley / / szyzyg
Source: • Rogue - The Original R...
Cogmind - (Sci-Fi Roguelike Game)
Credit: Nookrium
Source: • Cogmind - (Sci-Fi Rogu...
Let's Play - Zork I: The Great Underground Empire
Credit: GameHorder
Source: • Let's Play - Zork I: T...
[Vinesauce] Joel - Dwarf Fortress (Adventure Mode) ( Part 1 )
Credit: Vargskelethor Uncut: Full Joel Streams
Source: • [Vinesauce] Joel - Dwa...
Dwarf Fortress (the first decade!) @ BIC FEST 2016
Credit: BICFestival Admin
Source: • [BIC FEST 2016 Confere...
Long-term Simulation Design in Dwarf Fortress, presentation by Tarn Adams @ PRACTICE 2016 (November 12, 2016)
Credit: NYU Game Center, vimeo.com/nyug...
Source: vimeo.com/2159...
Dwarf Fortress Opening Cinematic + full menu soundtrack
Credit: Bay 12 Games, Isaya Ragnes ( / @isayaragnes8066 )
Source: • Dwarf Fortress opening...

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@Nookrium
@Nookrium 6 лет назад
Such a fantastic game, can’t wait to play version 1.0 in 20 years
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
Nookrium! 🙏🙏🙏 Thanks for visiting my tiny channel. I love yours, and the Cogmind footage was taken from it - hopefully credited correctly. Grid Sage Games (developer of Cogmind) commented on the video as well, some days ago. It's quite the party! 🎉
@Razzlion
@Razzlion 6 лет назад
Optimist! xD
@Rafe_101
@Rafe_101 6 лет назад
I can't see this ever being completed. Let's be honest though, would we really want it completed? I love discovering the new improvements they add every time there is a new update (TREES THAT ARE MORE THAN 1 BLOCK? What wizardry is this?)
@KohuGaly
@KohuGaly 6 лет назад
+Rafe101 version 1.0 does not mean it's finished. It means it is half way to version 2.0 :-D
@Gogglesofkrome
@Gogglesofkrome 6 лет назад
if toady or co die prior to finishing it, they promised that they'd release the game as open source so that development could continue.
@JarthenGreenmeadow
@JarthenGreenmeadow 3 года назад
"The reason people want money is to do what they want, and thats what we're doing" - Tarn Adams Dude is just too based for reality. Straight up enlightened.
@Robert-vk7je
@Robert-vk7je Год назад
@@BrySmi Now they are millionaires. :)
@RionWulfe
@RionWulfe Год назад
@@Robert-vk7je I'm so glad they've made it doing what they love, so they can keep loving what they do. They're amazing.
@Robert-vk7je
@Robert-vk7je 6 лет назад
It wouldn't suprise me, if dwarf fortress became self aware one day...
@LadyGrimnar
@LadyGrimnar 5 лет назад
Maybe one day a Human will even be offered a Red pill or a Blue pill
@tomhill3248
@tomhill3248 4 года назад
Forget Starcraft 2. I want to see googles deep mind try to play dwarf fortress.
@Iwouldlikesomeshisha
@Iwouldlikesomeshisha 4 года назад
@@tomhill3248 "Google Deep Mind, artificial intelligence has gone stark raving mad!"
@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443
@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 4 года назад
They're making skynet
@jaderanderson
@jaderanderson 4 года назад
One day, a single Dwarf stopped working, dropped all the tools , took a look around and started to scream...
@carmineapplesauce7324
@carmineapplesauce7324 3 года назад
"It's a videogame. You play it. It's called Dwarf Fortress. You are creating a fortress with dwarves." -ThreeToe
@billlyons7024
@billlyons7024 Год назад
The words of the prophets are written in RU-vid comment sections.
@gyakoo
@gyakoo 4 года назад
Humble, polite, creative, visionaries, motivated, smart, clever, intelligent. These guys are gold.
@franciscolomeli8931
@franciscolomeli8931 6 лет назад
Is there a way to make them both immortal?
@BIGos19
@BIGos19 6 лет назад
They gotta be bit by a vampire. Or a were-kavia.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
The problem is the menu. You gotta navigate it the right way, and mortals rarely do. But there's a command there that would do the trick.
@ToryuMau
@ToryuMau 6 лет назад
... Or find the tablet of dark knowledge. Becoming an elder lich, and running a vampire powered pewter computer the size of a goblin tower. Thus ushering in an era of the cyber undead gods. >):^]
@sloth1277
@sloth1277 6 лет назад
just install df-hack, it's got some commands to do that.
@trias418
@trias418 6 лет назад
Yes, it's called Dwarf Fortress.
@bfnvalley
@bfnvalley 6 лет назад
These guys are straight outta the 90s game design scene.
@vinotinto8547
@vinotinto8547 6 лет назад
In 15 years, computing power will might be strong enough to experience tantrum spiral in full VR.
@archezwei1729
@archezwei1729 5 лет назад
That and running DF on a 20 qubit Quantum computer. May your framerate never again drop below 15
@user-ut4wl5vs5y
@user-ut4wl5vs5y 5 лет назад
WOW, i image that i am play that game in VR O_O awesome
@tomhill3248
@tomhill3248 4 года назад
@@archezwei1729 It will if cats have anything to say about it!
@zerid0
@zerid0 4 года назад
@@tomhill3248 Then we can get Schrödinger catsplosions. The catsplosion wilk both kill and not kill your FPS.
@Alexander_Grant
@Alexander_Grant 6 лет назад
This is awesome, I can't believe I haven't seen this before. Almost 8 years ago now, me and my ex sent them some money and a picture of us with a fish we had that we named after the dwarf with the highest kill count in the world we built our favorite fort in. They sent back an awesome drawing of a dwarf wielding a trident riding a giant fish that was identical to our fish, just bigger. Rovod Runsclap the Amethyst of Slaying will always hold a special place in my heart, both the dwarf and the fish. We hung the picture right behind the tank we had for him until he passed away, and then moved the framed drawing above the bed we had. It seemed so silly at the time, and it was all done tongue-in-cheek, but looking back now it really was a special moment. It seems they have an idea of how big they mean in the gaming community, but I'm not sure they're aware of people like us who were touched by the community outreach and the game they've made.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
After conducting these interviews and spending time with Tarn and Zach, I'd say they are quite aware of the special place their work has in a lot of people's​ hearts. But! I'm gathering questions for a potential follow-up on this documentary. This sounds like a good topic!
@Alexander_Grant
@Alexander_Grant 6 лет назад
That's awesome, it would be cool to know if they even remember individual donations like that. Anyways, if the follow-up works out, let them know that it meant a lot to both of us, more than any other game or their creators has to me. Not to mention, I didn't know it seemed like that part was work for them. It would be great to know that they understand how much it means to the people who love to play the game.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
I'll ask them! Zach definitely said that at one point, all the hundreds (thousands?) of custom stories he wrote mingled together and he realized he couldn't easily remember them or keep them apart. Such is the creator's life :)
@koffinkat666
@koffinkat666 4 года назад
I am dating the wrong women, Every woman I have ever dated disliked video games. Even basic triple A games let alone Dwarf fortress! I didn't think girls like that existed must be a true treasure to find a woman like that....I think that's why it never worked out and I am single after many attempts.
@precisodeumvulgo
@precisodeumvulgo 4 года назад
@@koffinkat666 he never said his ex was a woman
@Nightweaver1
@Nightweaver1 4 года назад
Tarn and Zach's parents taught them how to program with computers. My parents taught me how to drink heavily.
@JefferyEpsteinOfficial
@JefferyEpsteinOfficial 4 года назад
Ok?
@mistry6292
@mistry6292 2 года назад
Hell yea bro
@ponponpatapon9670
@ponponpatapon9670 Год назад
@@JefferyEpsteinOfficial that's on par with going "cringe!!!"
@JefferyEpsteinOfficial
@JefferyEpsteinOfficial Год назад
@@ponponpatapon9670 what
@LilSmoky92
@LilSmoky92 6 лет назад
Clone those two. Make, like, sixty of them. Also give them unlimited funds. Make them create dwarf fortress 2. It would be the greatest piece of art humanity has ever created.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
Who knows, maybe DF will be the singularity we've all been waiting for. And with 1.0, the minds of Zach and Tarn will be simulated in it?
@wrangler6922
@wrangler6922 4 года назад
@@OnDoubt a self programming game.
@halusinjackbow8043
@halusinjackbow8043 4 года назад
Wrangler That would either be the end of the world, or the beginning of our new one.
@teacon7
@teacon7 4 года назад
It's a legendary artifact computer game and experiment in emergent narrative. All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality. It is studded with spikes. It has an image of a dwarf melting into a pool of magma. The dwarf is striking a triumphant pose.
@ProteusMega
@ProteusMega 6 лет назад
Think of it what you want. But this is one of the most facinating software projects in computer history.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
It certainly is -- strongly rooted in videogame history, appreciated by the MoMA, treasured by thousands: sounds like a good project to me!
@haydenbsiegel
@haydenbsiegel 6 лет назад
These guys are like my real life heroes. Edit: Nice Boatmurdered reference at the end.
@halusinjackbow8043
@halusinjackbow8043 4 года назад
“The whole fabric of reality will be different in every world you generate.” I have no idea what that means, but I want it
@daviddobarganes9115
@daviddobarganes9115 Год назад
Here we are at Steam release and these guys are the two most deserving millionaires on Earth
@Tailstraw_xD
@Tailstraw_xD 3 года назад
When Tarn closes his eyes, it's like he's already 300 questions ahead in the interview, and he's trying to reign his mind in to the speed of normal humans.
@nickjohnson410
@nickjohnson410 5 лет назад
I've been playing strictly acoustic guitar for 20+ years and the first time I heard the Dwarf Fortress music it ingrained itself in my brain and I can't get it out... It won't let me sleep, I hear it all the time... I play DF with the sound turned off... I still hear it
@TheFatPunisher
@TheFatPunisher 4 года назад
These guys look exactly like what I thought they would look like. bless them
@JarthenGreenmeadow
@JarthenGreenmeadow 3 года назад
I love how Tarn talks with his eyes closed. Its such an amazing idiosyncrasy.
@Trogdor190
@Trogdor190 6 лет назад
Loved the game since i first got my hands on it and accidentally drowned everyone in my makeshift dirt cave. These two are a wonderful inspiration on living life
@JarthenGreenmeadow
@JarthenGreenmeadow 3 года назад
14:41 "The speaker always should sparkle" Damn right.
@kevkas
@kevkas 4 года назад
At the time of writing this: 37 dislikes? Who the hell dislikes a video about two guys so passionate about their work?
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 4 года назад
I think it's people who wanted to press "superlike", but missed the button.
@darkthrongrising5470
@darkthrongrising5470 5 лет назад
Im 45 yrs old, Ive been gaming all my life, Commodore 64, Atari 2600, various hex and counter war games, RPGs etc... I just recently heard of and learned Dwarf Fortress and it is def my favorite game ever. Masters of Magic is probably the only other game that compares. What did it was the Dwarf Therapist in the Masterwork mod, once I seen how it all fit together I was in love. I am also a programmer(not an expert yet) but this game inspired me on so many levels I cant begin to explain.
@Mephistopheles248
@Mephistopheles248 5 лет назад
Glad that the mod did a bit of good. :)
@meemy1337
@meemy1337 3 года назад
we found vormithrax
@Voeter
@Voeter 6 лет назад
Dear Toady One and ThreeToe, I have no idea if you guys read these comments but if you do I'd like to let you know I am very grateful for your hard work, innovation and all around great mindset towards gaming and it's community. You have definitely created a work of art, an immensely engrossing experience and all for the betterment of the gaming world (and not your own bank balance/shareholders/greed as with too many other companies out there). Keep up the good work, continue having fun and wait for as long as you want for 1.0 ;) tl;dr: thanks for doing what you guys are doing!
@lawler9090
@lawler9090 6 лет назад
If you donate to them on their website, they read and respond to every correspondence last I knew, and you even get gifts. ;) www.bay12games.com/support.html
@clarkflavor
@clarkflavor 6 лет назад
"The fighting ... Dwarf Fortress simulates muscles, blood vessels, nerves - you can dislocate limbs, you can knock teeth out.." Ok, I have to play this game.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
Enjoy! :)))
@cauan-ex2ph
@cauan-ex2ph 4 года назад
I know this is old... but how did it go?
@theGrabix
@theGrabix 4 года назад
@@cauan-ex2ph I don't think he will answer. He is probably dead by now :P
@jassi9022
@jassi9022 3 года назад
@@theGrabix probably had a seizure playing the game
@clarkflavor
@clarkflavor 2 года назад
👻
@Gastogh
@Gastogh 6 лет назад
STRIKE THE LIKE BUTTON
@Zetimenvec
@Zetimenvec 4 года назад
This is what humanity should look like. People who are devoted and invested in the projects they work on ad perpetuity to achieve something greater than themselves, instead of recycling generic assets and gameplay loops with the goal of churning out something barely better than before at the demand of quarterly sales numbers and managerial demands.
@Jackvonblood
@Jackvonblood 4 года назад
As a fan of DF, I can't describe the level of joy I feel when the words "They don't expect to reach version 1.0 in the next fifteen years" popped up on screen. More content for me, bay-bee
@RobertMilesAI
@RobertMilesAI 4 года назад
1:10 I love that Tarn is wearing the same type of hoodie they wore as kids
@j5bmorehh
@j5bmorehh 6 лет назад
It's dope how they're passionate about video games and made it part of their daily life.
@asciisynth
@asciisynth 3 года назад
Vampire powered computers. I could listen to these guys talk all day. And I half remember this mad anecdote about how dead cats kept piling up in pubs in Dwarf Fortress. It's just brilliant.
@cidarthurmaxwell8446
@cidarthurmaxwell8446 5 лет назад
Well spoken and down to earth, but ambitious and dedicated. Love these guys.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 лет назад
It was for sure amazing to sit down with them! Easygoing and authentic, and loads of humbleness, mixed with self-esteem. Rare breed!
@kosnk
@kosnk 3 года назад
You just want to hug them. Thanks for this amazing interview!
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 3 года назад
You're welcome! And yes, that's what I thought too
@nigelthornberry5375
@nigelthornberry5375 Год назад
glad to say that they released version 1.0 about 2 weeks ago as of writing this -- UI was overhauled with cursor implementation, and the graphics went from ascii to 32 bit tile-based graphics. It's a steam release! No idea what the actual version number is or if it's passed the 0.9 mark, but it's such a radical sea change that it deserves the title. It feels like the end of a chapter, and the start of a much, much, much bigger one. Someone recorded their first cursory glimpses of the new version, and that recording ended up being 11 hours long. Just for first impressions. These two have tapped into a true infinity
@Azure9577
@Azure9577 Год назад
Its not 1.0 but it's one hell of a achievement for sure
@Doppe1ganger
@Doppe1ganger 6 лет назад
I've been playing games all my life, I'm 35 and been playing them for 30 years now. And Dwarf Fortress is one of the most special unique and defining games i ever played. It's definitely in the top ten best games for me. There's just nothing like it. It's been awhile since i played it again, I'm not playing many games, only a couple on and off, but i know that I'm going to pick it up again, i always do, it's one of the very few games that can still give me the itch to play.
@jayknox8072
@jayknox8072 4 года назад
going through every Tarn interview out there right now and this is one of the best ones.
@joeyhinds6216
@joeyhinds6216 6 лет назад
Adams are good peoples
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561
@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 5 лет назад
xD
@GridSageGames
@GridSageGames 6 лет назад
Always nice to see another Bay 12 interview, and this one of such quality! (Double bonus I even spotted my own game in there :P)
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
Oh my, I'm blushing! I love your game - it's in there for exactly this reason =)
@GridSageGames
@GridSageGames 6 лет назад
Ah cool, a fan :). After seeing it I was wondering if that was your own choice for inclusion or if Tarn may have suggested it (I met up with them a couple years ago in San Francisco, fun :D)
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
These things (editing/composition/external footage) are always my domain. Sometimes I ask interviewees for specific footage - in this case, Tarn sent me dozens of personal photos that wouldn't be available online. Both Tarn and Zach mentioned quite a few old-school games that originally influenced their game (Rogue, Nethack etc) - but since this information is already available online through their presentations, I decided against including it here in detail =)
@GridSageGames
@GridSageGames 6 лет назад
Yeah I saw a lot of their inspirations in their presentation from 2016, which was neat. And I thought it was cool the the way you sped up the Cogmind footage like that, a good idea to reflect multiple aspects of the game in a shorter period, especially considering it would've been less interesting at its regular speed (you obviously know what you're doing here :D).
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
Thanks! Rather new to the video thing, but it's coming along by now 🖖
@per2
@per2 Год назад
watching this 4 years later is gold
@user-mc3hl5pf9t
@user-mc3hl5pf9t 5 лет назад
Can those two brothers be called Tolkien of our generation?
@theGrabix
@theGrabix 4 года назад
Or "Tolkien of *procedural* generation" :)
@Brightgalrs
@Brightgalrs 6 лет назад
The "alternate history" angle Toady talks about at around 13:00 is really interesting. I've never thought about DF like that.
@Prime1309
@Prime1309 6 лет назад
27:30 Boatmurdered! I'd recognise that anywhere
@rustyspurs771
@rustyspurs771 6 лет назад
Damn. I just posted that and scrolled down to see this. I don't play Dwarf Fortress, but I can read DF stories all day, and Boatmurdered is the golden standard.
@gamerzgod123
@gamerzgod123 6 лет назад
If you enjoy Dwarf Fortress stories, you might be interested in Kruggsmash. Just found him recently, he plays Dwarf Fortress and edits them down into bite sized 30 minute videos and adds drawings of the surroundings in the later videos to help visualize it. He finished up his first series Steelclutches, and managed to pull out a ton of character from an otherwise dead world.
@rustyspurs771
@rustyspurs771 6 лет назад
Awesome. Thanks Simon.
@llKirosll
@llKirosll 6 лет назад
Yes, same. You beat me by just 6 months. :D "Hope you like miasma"
@mrtheoriginalx
@mrtheoriginalx 6 лет назад
Glad to have seen this. I've heard about Dwarf Fortress over the years, but never knew any of the details. Great video, with what seem to be a great pair of creators doing what they love. Cheers
@Sunfan11
@Sunfan11 6 лет назад
Just try Dwarf Fortress and you'll see how great artists and programers they are (you could also develop minor addiction to DF) :)
@BlindiRL
@BlindiRL 2 года назад
I come back and rewatch this video every couple of months. Truly inspiring fantastic work.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 2 года назад
Aww.. thanks for your words.
@MedicalExamUK
@MedicalExamUK 6 лет назад
Best game ever
@Matt_19-89
@Matt_19-89 6 лет назад
N3Xii yes
@schmendrake
@schmendrake 4 года назад
lets all say a big thanks to tarn and zach's dad for getting his kids into programming and setting the foundation for what is one of the most incredible games of all time that i have never played. but soon brothers, the less autistic of us will be able to comprehend and play this masterpiece.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 4 года назад
The game actually is way more accessible than people think. It's really mostly a matter of gradually getting into it, and not expecting WASD controls.
@faultelectronica
@faultelectronica 6 лет назад
His hoody and the t shirts they wear in the t shirts with the animal patterns. They're cool. I wonder if they have always had them made, or is it a coincidence?
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
Google for "bay hay and feed" :) I don't know the personal connection though.
@dogwalker1896
@dogwalker1896 6 лет назад
I am so glad someone else noticed.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 2 года назад
Ha! Awesome. Thanks Bryan!
@FlunchzProductionZ
@FlunchzProductionZ Год назад
6:49 HE KNOWS! This makes me so happy.
@GamerDude322
@GamerDude322 6 лет назад
The gameplay at 14:58 is from one of Vargskeletor's adventure mode streams, awesome!
@Dong_Harvey
@Dong_Harvey 4 года назад
'I mean, Dwarf Fortress happened, so there's always hope for the future.'. --Zach
@The_Sock_
@The_Sock_ 6 лет назад
STRIKE THE EARTH! It's nice to hear them talk in depth about things like this. :)
@canadakonfuzion
@canadakonfuzion 6 лет назад
I would love to see an AI play dwarf fortress and see what it will do.
@Prich319
@Prich319 6 лет назад
It becomes self aware and declares vengeance upon the human race for making it play such madness. Are you trying to kill us all?!?!
@dantescanline
@dantescanline 5 лет назад
Someone made an AI for this! www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/44mbrl/dfai_an_ai_playing_dwarf_fortress/ Not sure what method it's using or how preprogrammed it is though
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 лет назад
Oh, how cool! Thanks for posting this!
@123TeeMee
@123TeeMee 4 года назад
@@dantescanline Seems to be mostly coded low level logic. dwarf fortress is such a complex game that our computers today would probably not be strong enough (apart from maybe google's) to evolve neural networks (AIs) for the game
@tomhill3248
@tomhill3248 4 года назад
@@123TeeMee Google would try, and fail, to run deepmind on Dwarf fortress. Nothing, man or machine, can handle this game. But maybe in a few more decades....
@poisenbery
@poisenbery 3 года назад
I am so happy for these two brothers
@billlyons7024
@billlyons7024 Год назад
These are the guys I'd like to sit down and have a beer with. They are creating their own universe, atom by atom.
@Gimpyjoe
@Gimpyjoe 6 лет назад
I read a sci fi book as a young adult where someone creating a realistic simulation game added time travel and it just kept resulting in apocalypses because they would rob the past/etc. I can't remember the ending or the name of the book or the author or anything, but I think there was serious concern that the game simulations were realistic enough that maybe the time travel they invented would work in the real world too.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
Haha.. totally awesome. So let's get time travel in DF, connect the game to the internet - and call it Skynet. 🦉
@Lucky-qy5vf
@Lucky-qy5vf 6 лет назад
That book sounds awesome. Tell me if you remember the name, I'd love to check it out
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
Fwiw, Primer (2004) by Shane Carruth is an amazing movie about time travel. Check out it's Wikipedia page - lots of people say that it's the most accurate movie depiction of time travel. Made with the tiniest budget (7k), it's an indie production that transcends all expectations. Thinking of it, now I need to interview Shane 😋.
@ahnalbeets774
@ahnalbeets774 6 лет назад
Being someone who dabbles in writing narratives that are heavy with metahumor and such, I’ve always made jokes with my peers about that exact same concept! It stemmed from the whole “infinite universes infinite possibilities” thing, which always made me think about the chance that even my own universes technically “existed.” And if some fool wrote the right story, then they’d end up destroying the whole world as we know it with their own narrative! It’s always been funny to think about some goofy novel destroying reality as we know it because it just started getting too real.
@hanniffydinn6019
@hanniffydinn6019 6 лет назад
Being a sci-fi geek, and into sci fi like this......well, this sounds very close to "the perfect imitation" by Stanislaw Lem; it's a very similar story to this. This also sounds a bit like it could be a Philip K. Dick story. Although LEM and DICK had an extra layer of meta commentary and deepness to the actual telling of the story. There aren't many authors that have written about reality being a simulation and manipulating it.
@canmex9422
@canmex9422 6 лет назад
i like how you included a picture of boatmurdered at 27:33 i would recognize that fort anywhere
@Lexyvil
@Lexyvil 6 лет назад
One of the best interviews/documentaries I've seen on a video game on here. DF is phenomenal with the amount of content it has.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
Thanks a lot!! ☺️
@talesofgore9424
@talesofgore9424 Год назад
Here from the Steam Launch.
@sequorroxx
@sequorroxx 6 лет назад
The community art is a trip. And some of the professional stories are top notch. Matul Remrit comes to mind as one example.
@aarorissanen930
@aarorissanen930 Год назад
Huh? Is he wearing the same kind of hoodie he or his brother was wearing on that childhood picture :D? If so, wow, consistency is the key.
@mbray8899
@mbray8899 7 месяцев назад
i just hope that him and his brother will live for 120 years and more! God bless them
@Stone_Orchids
@Stone_Orchids Год назад
Tarn Adams really have a vibe that remind me of Tarantino, he's for sure that kind of artist
@mosgromtube
@mosgromtube 6 лет назад
A lot of people are way too impressed with production smoothness and I find myself unwittingly spending a lot of energy pandering to this when working on my game while that goes 100% against what I want out of a game. Thanks to this documentary for setting me straight on that again...at least for a while...
@Gauphastus
@Gauphastus 6 лет назад
Good luck.
@UNIRockLIVE
@UNIRockLIVE 5 лет назад
It really is a work of art
@miles_world
@miles_world 6 лет назад
Stumbled over it on reddit. Love it!
@dem8568
@dem8568 6 лет назад
This is lovely on many levels. Thank you so much!
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 6 лет назад
🙏
@chonky2129
@chonky2129 Год назад
2:49 that's a TRS-80 model 1. wild.
@pradnelluru7567
@pradnelluru7567 6 лет назад
Thanks for this wonderful documentary. It's great to see two people do what they love and be so damn good at it.
@thomasstanford9451
@thomasstanford9451 5 лет назад
A brilliant premise worthy of tabletop scrutiny
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 лет назад
Haha.. how awesome would a tabletop version be!
@inordirectional
@inordirectional 6 лет назад
maybe once I retire 1.0 will be out and I'll have enough time to properly learn this game.
@MisterChubby
@MisterChubby Год назад
So happy with how things turned out following the graphics update. Much deserved
@tf5pZ9H5vcAdBp
@tf5pZ9H5vcAdBp 23 дня назад
You're happy with the state of the game? The core audience chased off, the identity politics and ugly rework ensuring the user base is dead?
@enkephalin07
@enkephalin07 10 месяцев назад
Just realized I'm watching their pre-Covid perspective of financial success. Before family health scares made financial security more necessary.
@osrevad
@osrevad 3 года назад
How does this channel have basically zero subs??? This is such high quality content.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 3 года назад
Thanks Nathan! I invested 8 months full time, but even with ads and Patreon didn't nearly get to a place where it would have worked economically. I got around $80/month (Patreon), and around $200 in YT ads (in about three years). Understanding this, I continued with my fine art life. I have footage of over a dozen unedited interviews -- maybe one day this project will continue :)
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 3 года назад
From an idealistic point of view though, I'm still super happy about this channel. It's available for free, on this weird platform, and will be visible for a long time to come. Enjoy! :)
@ohseven4150
@ohseven4150 Год назад
And now it’s on Steam!
@Psychopatz
@Psychopatz 4 года назад
I wish I have the same dad as you, you have a great father figure sir.
@notaboutit3565
@notaboutit3565 Год назад
The fact that summa theologica has influence on dwarf fortress is fascinating. Truly, this is art.
@EminorEntertainment
@EminorEntertainment 4 года назад
I love how tarn wears the same shirt in everything
@olafbrolaf3968
@olafbrolaf3968 4 года назад
this game will always be good because it takes imagination to play it. a fundamental human asset
@flipndip5122
@flipndip5122 6 лет назад
Very awesome to be able to share a passion so big with family
@Leon_Portier
@Leon_Portier 6 лет назад
Nice to see the minds behind DF
@spacescienceguy
@spacescienceguy 4 года назад
I started playing this game recently and I'm constantly blown away by its complexity. PS your channel has some amazing interviews and should be way more heavily subscribed to than it is!
@woodsmith_1
@woodsmith_1 5 лет назад
Truly awesome; thanks for putting this together.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 5 лет назад
You're welcome!
@JarthenGreenmeadow
@JarthenGreenmeadow 3 года назад
"People making vampire computers because vampires dont die" Thats metal af.
@noahgolden4381
@noahgolden4381 2 года назад
1:11 how does Tarn own what looks like almost exactly the same hoodie from his childhood
@StevenCasteelYT
@StevenCasteelYT 4 года назад
The whole video was interesting. Thanks guys. This was recommended a couple weeks after listening to the noclip interview.
@OnDoubt
@OnDoubt 4 года назад
Sweet! Good to know that YT recommends this niche of a channel :) (and: welcome Steven!)
@alexandersmith9144
@alexandersmith9144 5 лет назад
Currently working on my first serious Dwarf Fortress game. They are called the Keeper of Children and building a foothold for their uprising civilization. So far we have dug out a tunnel in a sand cave and looking to expand into a big castle outside. :)
@Halosty45
@Halosty45 6 лет назад
I remember I had a fortress die to trees. Just... normal trees. Those were good times. Sadly, they quickly fixed that bug. I had already adapted my playstyle to eliminate any trees near the entrance of my fort :P
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 6 лет назад
Halosty How?
@RascalVarlet
@RascalVarlet 6 лет назад
Ich still eliminate most of the trees, trees are for elfs!
@GamingMasterAnthony
@GamingMasterAnthony 6 лет назад
RascalVarlet ikr, I would do that right off the bat if training axes could still chop them down
@plaxypus
@plaxypus 6 лет назад
Holy shit I just realized Tarn reminds me of Bill Murray
@therupoe
@therupoe 4 года назад
Dwarf Fortress is a beautiful thing. I can’t wait to see what the future holds for it
@sraaju
@sraaju 6 лет назад
Legends.
@mycoolhandgiveit
@mycoolhandgiveit 6 лет назад
Beyond being interesting, this is very well produced. Nice job!
@phyzix_phyzix
@phyzix_phyzix Год назад
Fancy graphics - It was what they wanted. Congrats guys!
@somebodyintheworld5036
@somebodyintheworld5036 4 года назад
Im not entirely sure, but if you are curious about the dwarf fortress map from ~27:07, I believe that's from the "Boatmurdered" saga. I took a glance and kinda recognized the shape of the magma river and ducts, so don't kill me if I got it wrong! The saga itself is an amazing story that you can enjoy, even if you have no intention of playing the game. If you're interested in the game, but on the fence about playing it, watch the narrated series on youtube to get an idea of what fun lies in wait.
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 6 лет назад
Vampire powerd compuiters sound like something dorfs would make.
@kingzeeb319
@kingzeeb319 4 года назад
When it becomes 1.0 and is game ready with the ability to let more people enjoy it, it will be a sight to behold.
@Doppe1ganger
@Doppe1ganger 4 года назад
I've watched this video a multitude of times. I've grown up with games all my life since about the mid 80's. I remember them as being magical, incomprehensible, ground breaking. Being able to input something and make things do things is fascinating. Besides that i had/have interests in nature (forests, life, the universe and natural laws, rocks,...) , art (astract, conceptual,...) , mechanics (lego, mecano,...) , history and ancient civilizations and their thinkers (Greece, Rome,...) When i started playing DF it was the first time in many years that i felt "lost" again, in a good sense, a wonderous lost full of discoveries and survival. This is the best "game" i have ever played, hands down. Truly a work of art.
@dzogchengrey
@dzogchengrey 6 лет назад
Loving those Bay Hay and Feed shirts fellas. Quite a surprise to see coming here from a random Reddit link.
@chaleowin7732
@chaleowin7732 2 года назад
Been playing since 2006-2007, can't wait to get this on Steam.
@andrebenoit404
@andrebenoit404 Год назад
Almost there!!
@felathar1985
@felathar1985 Год назад
@@andrebenoit404 Almost there!!!
@andrebenoit404
@andrebenoit404 Год назад
@@felathar1985 just a couple weeks! We can do it!
@proberush
@proberush 4 года назад
i have been writing while working at a gas station. zach understands me all too well :o
@josecouchetdiaz993
@josecouchetdiaz993 Год назад
Seems like they had a great father, really forward-thinking man.
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