Just to add to the crazy real world aspects of Deus Ex, in the first game (released in June 2000) they didn't render the twin towers into the New York skyline and the in-game explanation is that they were destroyed in a terrorist attack.
I came here to say this. The New York skyline was mirrored in the game to save on memory, but this made it so the Twin Towers weren't a part of it. Deus Ex seemed to predict a SCARY amount of things.
3:18 Um, actually they did cover that in the first book. As soon as Katniss gets a good look at the mockingjay pin Madge gave her, she tells the story of the jabberjay.
Um actually, not all government officials are granted immunity, only “ranking 10” (although there isn’t a clear explanation of what that means)*. Additionally the use of prohibited weapons such as high powered explosives, chemical weapons, etc (class 4 and 5 weapons) are prohibited. Edit: *as someone else noted, the elected officials exemption isn’t in place during all purges (Purge: Election Year)
@@nixchelle a lot of people theorize it means elected officials of a certain rank but also non-elected positions that are specialized to a certain degree; you don’t want a specialist relating to the power grid getting purged as he’ll be very needed the day after the purge
So two things about Clockwork Orange: for one its important to note that it was less Alex realized his faults and more accurately he got bored and decided to try things out Petes way. Once he got out of jail he learned his friend who continued his life of crime died not long after the fact while the one who gave up that life and tried to live like a good person is actually happy, meanwhile Alex is now an adult man still running with teenagers. The other thing was actually the purpose of that last chapter, being that it is meant to hammer home the message that someone can't be forced t be a good person but has to choose it on their own. Being tortured into being good reverted after a while, but choosing to actually be good of his own accord sticks. That also has to do with a message about maturity since the reason Alex liked being cruel so much was he was 15 years old and was too inexperienced to know better, meanwhile his friends who were older all decided that ultraviolence was pointless years ago
> Once he got out of jail he learned his friend who continued his life of crime died not long after the fact while the one who gave up that life and tried to live like a good person is actually happy, This made me remember something that happened to me a few years ago. I broke up with my then-girlfriend and a coworker said "Oh, here, you need to read this!" and gave me a copy of "The Game", that Pick Up Artist book. I gave him the side-eye but went ahead and read it it. Came back in the next day and said "Do you realize that there are two kinds of people in this book: the ones who are pick up artists and the ones who are happy?" The question bounced off his brain.
the chapter rings a little hollow with its "he was just a kid and needed to mature" message when you remember that alex was a serial killer and serial rapist. not usual "boys will be boys" shit
When I read it, it felt almost like "nature" calling him into a confy family life and to fulfill different role in society. Kinda disapointing that it was presented in a way that seems like a natural, instinctive development, but it's a core message of the book and it'd apalling to learn U.S editors simply cut it out. A whole country could not understand the book cause of some bullshit corporate decision.
Around 30:00 when Mike says "everyone here looks like they're going to be gentlemen and not take your point." Would have been the perfect moment for one of them to go. "Um, actually."
I wish Mike would, as a policy, NOT confirm whether the answer was correct until he calls "time" on the question. He seemed on the verge of that here, but then, eh, confirm it anyway. I know it doesn't matter here but come on dude make the scoopers have to work at it at least a LITTLE.
Um, Actually, Box was in charge of preserving "fish, and plankton, and sea greens, and protein from the sea", but started freezing people when "the other food stopped coming". He doesn't offer Logan and Jessica anything besides immortalizing them in an ice sculpture (from a deleted scene). Also, on the way to the ice cave, Logan and Jessica do pass by several tanks that once contained the aquatic foodstuffs that Box can't shut up about 😉
"Logan's Run" is probably the best example of 'and everybody died shortly after the end credits rolled.' Box says there's no more "fish, and plankton, and sea greens, and protein from the sea," and The Old Man tells them that there aren't any fish in the river any more. The global ecological systems have clearly been collapsing for decades, and they've just blown up the dome and brought everybody who was in there outside, where there isn't going to be enough food to feed them for very long.
@@Fafhrd42 I thought the whole point of the ending was that the food sources for the dome were gone, but the rest of the world had recovered enough to start supporting life.
@@MrDj232 That was probably the intent when it was written, but through the lens of today where we know a lot more about the interconnectedness of the Earth's systems, if all sea and waterborne life is dead, then the world is absolutely, irreparably, fucked.
@@Fafhrd42 I mean to be fair though, the systems of the dome seemed to be in a bad way, food production was down to one robot freezing Runners, and the whole thing broke down when the central computer ran into a logic problem. It could just be that the local area around the dome was depleted, or the harvesting methods were no longer functioning, and the particular river the old man fished wasn't as bountiful for whatever reason (dude had a bunch of cats, so there must be some food around). It doesn't necessarily mean a total environmental collapse. A more likely reason for everyone to die is the fact that no one knows how to do anything, and they're going to need to start getting to work pretty damn quick.
For a second i honestly thought the answer to that Deus Ex question was “Um, Actually your not describing the setting of Deus Ex, youre describing the real world”
"They did not cover (mocking jays) in the first book." I only read the first book, but I remember that, so they definitely did cover it in the first book. Also, with hybrid animals in the real world the standard naming convention is to take the first letter of the father's species and replace the first letter of the mother's species with it. Example: ♂️Lion+♀️Tiger=Liger
Edit: You're correct, and even for Um, Actually I feel like my original comment had too much lecture energy about all the times Mockingjays were explained and how did they not remember that as vividly as I do? So I just deleted it. XD
I'm gonna have trouble getting _"oh mai god, one of the brave guys likes me but I'm a farmerr"_ out of my head the next time I watch any teen show/movie haha.
UM ACTUALLY in Deus Ex the cure for Grey Death isn't actually in critically short supply. Rather, supplies of it are plentiful but it is being intentionally withheld from the masses by those in control.
11:30 That's because there isn't really anything dangerous outside of the city walls. They're dystopian, not because of poor societal response to pressure (directly) but because the results of a failed eugenics experiment have been exiled to Chicago. Which could have been something really interesting had the series actually done something with it instead of saving it for an 11th hour plot twist in the last book. The Amity live outside the walls because they're chill enough to maintain a community without the structure of the city. The Dauntless need to be contained to the city where they can just do dumb shit.
I don’t think there was a single YA post-apocalyptic book series that was as much of a letdown as Divergent was by the end, and I think in hindsight people will eventually say that Divergent (or at least the third book) did to YA post-apocalyptic fiction what Hello Dolly did to big budget Hollywood musicals.
This, but also, don't the Dauntless patrol the walls to watch out if there are threats? So they do kind of take care of that, they just don't live outside, they live in some kind of underground/abandoned structure for the aesthetic
@@marinemanaphy101 I saw an argument on Tumblr that Divergent was the last of that style of YA dystopia, because it lays bare the formula of the whole thing. The protagonist has no traits apart from strong-willed that might get in the way of people projecting onto her. She is dainty and beautiful, despite her insisting otherwise, but can still fight bigger opponents. She is a perfect mask for the tweens you're marketing to wear. The book needs something perversely appealing, the way the Hunger Games were the draw for those books, so the government puts everyone in Harry Potter houses based on their one(1) personality trait or career aspiration. And of course the protagonist, and most readers, will be drawn to the cool and brave faction, the Dauntless, who play Capture the Flag and don't have to actually work. One of the Dauntless is a tall, attractive man to have tension with the protagonist. He is handsome and brooding, and that's all he needs to be. The villains are your classic dystopian government; polished, sleek, with a stupid plan that our heroes have to fight, led by the protagonist who's the only one ~brave~ special enough to fight them. The rest of the book is held together with duct tape and fanservice, and its success reveals how base and formulaic the YA dystopia genre is.
Um actually, alex in a clockwork orange doesn't see the error of his ways. He just kind of grows out of ultraviolence. It's not that he realises it was morally wrong, he just doesn't find it fun any more
I just want to say that having Erik Voss is the thing that "Um, Actually" needed and I didn't know it needed. Seeing him winning is awesome... but missing the Octan logo... unforgivable.
Um, actually... It's not so much that Logan "attempts a run", he's sent by the AI that runs the Sandmen and the age monitoring to investigate a route that runners have been escaping through. I mean, technically, he's "attempting a run", but the way you put it it sounds like he's just a runner, that he lost faith in the system, when in fact, he serves as something of a double agent for a good chunk of the story.
I think it’s being conflagration with the book where he does want to run but only so he can catch Ballard (who’s lived a double life at age 42) and that by turning him in he’ll either be remembered a hero, or he will get his own life extended as a reward
9:53 um actually, they're not divided into factions based on personalities: everyone can freely choose their faction at 16, they just make you do an attitudinal test the week before or something, which can help you make a decision
Um, actually: While it is true that the members of the same faction in Divergent have similar personalities, the wording of the question makes it sound like that is how they become that faction. In actuality, all people choose which faction they go into.
To be fair, they choose the factions after they take that VR personality test... thing and get told the faction that fits their personality and it's kind of a big deal if you don't go along with your results iirc?
@@aw7145 yes you are correct. That is essentially the main story device is that she chooses to become dauntless. But the question is still worded wrong because just like in HP you get to choose.
@@Alepzeronisn't it heavily implied in Allegiant that the reason she can choose because she's divergent? And that people's faulty genes heavily sways them even if its a "free choice"
Um, Actually, while in the present day of the books the choice IS mostly up to the single person and thus influenced by their personalities, the groups were originally based on which genetic modification the people had undergone to enhance on a certain aspect such as intelligence, selflessness or courage, and there is still strong pressure to chose the faction that aligns with the genetic modification you inherited, which is made apparent by a series of hallucinogenic tests. Useles middle school obsessions are useful for one thing and that is infodumping xd
Yeah. The failed eugenics plot twist is the most interesting part of the book and I wish it was revealed at like the end of the first book so the series could actually reckon with it. I'd imagine 9 times out of 10 people end up in the clan of the genetic modification that is being expressed most strongly in them.
Um Actually, Octan is not specifically from The LEGO Movie, it predates it by quite a bit appearing in a number of LEGO sets and in the LEGO Island series.
Did you know the 3 sea shells is very similar to the ancient Mediterranean hygiene tool called a Pessoi. If Jon Spartan had been a history buff, he may have not been entirely embarrassed.
Um, actually, considering Cocteau's fascination with Japanese culture, the were probably based on Japanese Chügi. (I'm just being a bitch, because I knew about chügi and with people walking around in kimonos always figured it was just a non-disposable, more stylized version of chügi, but the pessoi look a lot closer to the three sea shells, so I guess we'll never know)
Um, Actually, Octan isn't exclusively from the Lego Movie, it appears across multiple Lego sets and and mediums, first appearing on the Lego Octan Racer set from 1992.
Tbf their status as a dystopian mega corporation is probably a little questionable in the context of the movie given it's based on a child's imagination, but you have a fair point.
Um Actually, Matrix is thought to be happening in 2199 by Morpheus and the citizens of Zion, but this estimation is made before they learn they are not the first rebels and Neo is not the first chosen one, so the story is likely taking place even further into the future.
@@powerfulghost Um, actually, Luc is correct, Morpheus explicitly says the current year is "closer to 2199," but cannot be specific because nobody knows for sure.
@@Vsmit00 Um, actually the apocalypse happened probably already in the year 2000 according to Morpheus, this was when the AI was invented and started a war against humanity (or the other way around, that remains unclear) so the answer in the show was wrong, it should come before Demolition Man.
@@siriusblack13 um actually its unclear when the apocalypse happened however because it wasn't a singular event however the machine war started somewhere between 2090 and 2139 operation dark sky the closes thing to a true apocalypse and what lead to the creation of the matrix happened at some point after 2139, morpheus is simply incorrect about the information because he doesn't have all of the information.
Um actually, in a clockwork orange Kubrick may have decided to change the ending by omitting the final chapter, but changed his story after people didn't like the change. Or because he thought the American audience would like the "tougher" ending? Or at the request of the author Burgess? Who has also changed his story multiple times on whether or not he wanted the ending changed. So it's actually very unclear what the actual reason was, and who is responsible for suggesting/accepting the proposed change.
What I remember reading was that the ending was more a statement that "ultraviolence" was just boys being boys and that they would naturally grow out of it (just a phase!), the publishers or the movie producers disagreed with that message (it was kinda messed up) and even the author in hindsight ended up agreeing that it was a bad and nonsensical take.
In the introduction to the new version, A Clockwork Orange Resucked, Burgess states that his publisher made him change it for America, and Kubrick just copied the American version.
@@hayuseen6683 adventure time is a dystopia. It can also be really fun but theirs crazy monsters trying to kill you all the time and absolute ruling classes control the world with iron fists. (Or in bubblegums case candy fists)
@@kamronspencer4910 Where's the injustice in society? I don't see how the princesses are ruling with an iron fist - what was totalitarian about them? I hesitate to say candy kingdom is a society, the inhabitants are golems more than people. Bubblegum has made them as close to people as she can and given them culture but that's not a totalitarian ruler that's playing god with idiot robots.
Speaking of eyes I've had a rust ring, which is when a piece of metal gets stuck in your eye long enough to rusts. It's actually pretty easy to take care of, but feels like a migraine in the back of your eye.
The thing is that dystopias like 1984, Cyberpunk and The Handmaid's Tale are supposed warnings but some people took them as instruction manuals in order to gain power
@Forrest Taylor But they are using multiple instructions at the same time so it doesn't matter the difference because people have plenty of reason to panic at the implementation of fascism through many methods that were warned about
Whenever DC is on the show, I always end up remembering some random derrickcomedy video, and giggle enough that I have to go back a few minutes to hear the statement or the answers. Edit: Pennyweather Lemonade this time if anyone is wondering.
How nice of Eric and the other guy for not taking the woman's point for the Snowpiercer question. Most other contestants would jump at the chance. I love this show. I hope it keeps going for a long, long time!
@@krablord if I knew her name I would have used it. I like how you point that out and not the fact I said "the other guy" as well. Get outta here fake ass sjw
Um, Actually, in the first shiny question: Minority Report is not post-apocalyptic. It takes place in 2054, but there is no 'end of the world' event prior to or during the events of the film. Also the year(s) of the first Machine War in The Matrix are never actually established. Morpheus says that they believe that the _current_ date is 'closer to 2199,' and that the machines were created in the 'early 21st century'. The plaque in the Nebuchadnezzar says that it was manufactured in 2069, but whether it was originally constructed for the war or retrofitted later is debatable.
Um actually, we know the Machine War happened sometime after 2090, when B1-66ER kills his master in self-defense. This leads to the creation of the city 01, and eventually to war between the humans and machines. We still don't know when the war itself started, but it's likely within the following decades.
Also, surely it depends on whether you're taking Matrix as a stand alone film or as part of a series, in the second one Neo learns from the Architect that he's the sixth (I think?) iteration of the one which would put the date way further into the future.
Um actually, were the wolf muts at the end of the first books made to resemble the previously killed tributes? Because I may have been over complicating it but I always thought they were made from the previously killed tributes because katniss describes the hair and eyes in detail that made it seem like they actually were the dead tributes hair and eyes ( that scene scared me so bad)
Umm, actually - the events taking place in the matrix (with Neo and Morpheus) are OCCURRING in 2199 or so they believe as they've lost what day exactly it is so they're just guessing roughly. The actual war happened several years earlier and the end of civilization could be considered when the humans lost the biggest conflicts and were put into the Matrix. Also, considering Zion is destroyed multiple times and rebuilt from scratch you could also assume that their 2199 date is incorrect as well as it's probably much later. The Animatrix lists the date as 21st century when humans created AI. I don't know why I'm going on about this...
Definitely much, much later than 2199. Most likely, many hundreds of years later. It would take a long time for Zion to build back up to the state it's in. I wouldn't be surprised if thousands of years had actually passed since the 21st century
Watching the first movie, I assumed that the first AI was invented in 2000, because the Matrix is kept in an infinite 1999, and that only makes sense to be chosen as a year if that's the last year that is 100% AI free. Even if the AI in 2000 is the non-sapitent predessor technology.
Um actually Octan did not originate in The Lego movie, but it is a regional to the lego brand. It first appeared in a 1992 gas station set, and has continued pop up in many places where Lego wanted the generic brand, especially of gas stations
I'm picturing Judge Dredd Divorce Court now. He'll I can just see the couple talking. "So it looks like we'll have to go before.... oh... Dredd..." "Eh... maybe the differences aren't so irreconcilable after all."
It’s awesome seeing DC Pierson in this. My prediction is the game doesn’t actually start because Voss goes on a mindless rant about Mephisto for 36 minutes.
Um actually, the UK publishers actually had the author of Clockwork Orange add the last chapter to make it “happier,” and it was published as originally written when it came to the US. This just on This American Life episode 775, or else I’d have no idea😂
According to Burgess in A Clockwork Orange Resucked, it was originally written as it was printed in the UK, and his US publishers made him remove it. There are meant to be 21 chapters, as it was a symbol of maturity, and the removed chapter is the 21st. Newer releases have all 21 chapters.
Um, actually: dystopias and apocalyptic fiction are separate genres, in spite of how often they overlap. You can have a dystopia without an apocalypse (Brave New World, etc).
5:00 um actually, in the movie "The First Purge" it was only for Staten Island, the new founding fathers of america just used SI to test out the purge idea.
5:27 um, actually the 2040 purge actually included government officials in the purge: election year. It’s actually really important to the plot of the movie
Um actually, people’s factions are based on their choosing with the blood seal but they are suggested which faction would suit them best based on the government’s invasive testing
Um, actually, there's another rule you neglected to mention another exception for the purge: I forget the exact classification of weapons, but certain classes of weaponry are also forbidden
As an addition to the portmanteaus animals, we actually do have coywolves (coyote wolf hybrids) and pizzlies (polar grizzly hybrids) so it seems we would come up with that.
I had no idea the U.S version of A Clockwork Orange slashed out the ending. That's basically taking out a whole message of the book, one of the core ones!
Really surprised you didn’t add any Blade Runner, cyberpunk2020/2077 or cowboy bebop in the Dystopia episode. Y’all should do another since there is SO MUCH lore in all of those franchises.
Um, Actually Octan isn't from the Lego Movie - it's been a brand included within a variety of Lego series (including City and Racing lines), with it's first appearance dating back to 1992.
Um... Actually the Dauntless faction does go outside of the walls, or at least as far out as Amity does. Specifically the low rank/reject members of Dauntless who get poor positions are stationed on the Amity farms for security.
Um Actually, Octan is a gas station brand that frequently appears in sets of various themes. It was introduced in 1992. To say it is "from" the movie implies it's origin. As it does when you say eggs come from chickens. If you're referring to the entire group, where it comes from describes its origin. If you're referring to an individual example from that group, where it comes from COULD mean where that one immediately came from. As in, this egg came from the refrigerator. TL;DR: Octan is older than the movie.
OH MY GOD! Erik Voss on Um, Actually?!?! Is this the end of the world? I mean, I’m pretty sure we’ve peaked. Where can you go from here? The answer- get Trapp and Ify on The Breakroom
The Minority Report didn't have an apocalypse or fall of society. The movie took place in 2054, but the question was explicitly about "when the end of the world is in these stories".
Trapp saying 'ah idk if we'd just make portmanteaus of these mutations' then saying pigoon, a mutated creature in Margaret Atwood's Oryx and Crake, used to grow human organs for organ transplants. Idk if that's a reference on his end but made me laugh. Also, raccoons were bred with another animal in the book, skunks! The product of those mutations were called rakunks
We also have irl lion tiger combos that we call Ligers and Tigons, as well as Bottlenose Dolphins who have mated with False Killer Whales, called Wholphins.
Um Actually, In the divergent series they are not given a faction based on their personality. They are given a recommendation based on their personality, but they can choose whichever faction they want. Which is also stupid.
Um actually the purge correction is correct except in one movie where the exception for government officials is overturned (purge election year) in order for one candidate to have the other assasinated.
At 32:49 the way they cut on "we only have one more question left in this game" makes trapp sounds like he's about to cry. Anyone else hearing this or am I crazy?
No one will ever believe me (except my wife, since we were watching together), but as soon as "Needs More Pixels" came up for the last shiny question, I said out loud "It's going to be Brazil"
