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@@dannystarkridesfixed JUST ride a street legal e-bike in a safe a respectful way, ride like a motorcycle and that invites trouble for them. Heavy fines and confiscation would work.
The Surron is pretty much the target on the list in a lot of cities. I live in WI and people ride them on bike paths, which pisses a lot of people off. My bike will do 60mph but when on a bike path it's no faster than 11mph with people around. Common sense goes a long way in not getting your bike banned, but as we all know some will kill it for the rest of us that do use common sense when riding.
From WI as well but not many Ebikes in my area. We have ordinances that make all roads "trails" so we have ATV and UTVs rolling through town all the time! it's awesome honestly.
@@airgunbubba2505 I'm in the S.E. near the lake so more poparlation. I ride my Chopper Ebike with no peddles and no one ever said anything but that is a cool bike.
@@tcm2kd5000 SW farmland area for me. lots of small towns and hillbillies so it's pretty laid back as everyone has some form of atv, dirtbike, utv, or cycle.
I pull over in the dirt, and let people go by. It's common courtesy in my mind.Edit I live in a small town in far northern Arizona. I ride the sidewalks and bike trails. Ride safe.
Unfortunately, even the most common sense people with nobody breaking the law they’ll find the one or two bad people and make the entire group look horrible. I take that into account with everything I hear when I hear a bad cops. I assume all cops are bad now if that’s how we’re gonna live our life in America and make the narrative as when you see one or two bad apples the entire bunch of behold and there’s nothing you can say that’s why laws are being created and I feel the same thing happened to everything in America police officers for once How about getting rid of qualified immunity look how many people that they hurt innocently how much damage they caused with frivolous laws that they like to bend to their will, but we don’t wanna talk about that. I’d rather talk about that than being any vehicle of any kind we’re talking about something that cost the country millions of dollars a year versus something that is not cost the millions of dollars the year if anything it generates revenue for people spending money
I bought my daughter a Radrover 6 when she was 12. I went riding with her for a long time to make sure she understood and followed the rules of the road for bikes and how to respect people on trails. She rides unsupervised now without issue. My city is nothing but hills, so no kid wants to ride a bike that doesn't have some assistance. Would I buy a child an electric dirt bike capable of doing 40mph+? No. We have dirt bike trails here, but that kind of speed for someone who doesn't have a driver's license and/or zero prior experience is just irresponsible. (I'm not talking about kids who have been riding dirt bikes since they were little and know what they're doing) The bottom line for me is that the adults who are buying these types of vehicles for their kids are responsible for teaching them the proper way to use them and showing them videos of what happens when they are reckless. Don't just give it to them and hope for the best.
Wonder what this means for Sur ronster. And yeah I’m not with kids getting high powered E motos, I’ve seen a few doing wheelies and stopping in the middle of traffic, with no helmets. E motos should be treated as if you’re on a motorcycle if you’re in group rides. Kids will ruin it for the rest of us
Suronster is a Fast Electric Bike outlaw. Similar to Eric the CEO of Luna cycles.. they don't give AF lol.. but yes everyone is expected to follow the rules of the road aka the law, and if you don't and get caught there can be some hefty punishments including jail time for those who repeatedly get caught without a license on an uninsured unauthorized motor vehicle. Ride on
Do it like in germany, its a 50cc so you pay 100$ a year insurance+bike theft insurance and get a plate , you need to have a regular car drivers license and thats it. This will fix everything
@channelofstuff6662 well if we can do it properly they could. Nothing wrong with having a small plate for 50ccs. They cant make it cost as much as a car would to insure. But i mean different country but ye would be just a bad move from the government
This emergency meeting was broadcast LIVE on the 'CITY OF HERMOSA BEACH' RU-vid Channel. If you want to see exactly how it affects ALL E-BIKES just go to the channel and look in the Live section.
It still blows my mind parents are buying their kids these multi-thousand dollar bikes which go 40+ MPH, just barely enough to keep up with cars. Mostly boys whose balls have yet to drop are riding them and ruining it for everybody. And just an aside: I'm tired of seeing nearly every new high performance ebike coming out looking like a dirt bike. We need more street and city commuter bikes. No one has dared to challenge Onyx and Huck on the street ebike scene for years.
Ariel RIDER? Juiced Bikes? Volcon Brat? Let's not forget the Sondors Mad Mod. (R I.P Sondors, your downfall was well deserved.) ONYX is also gone. 😑😂🤣🤣😂
@@DW-nf9qe Besides the Sondors Metacycle, all those brands you listed struggle to keep a solid 40MPH, I'm talking bikes that comfortably go the speed limit like ONYX, it's sad they're gone.😔
Nothing new. Had a YZ80 dirt bike when I was a kid and got caught riding on street. This is no different. Just because they are electric, doesn’t mean they are somehow legal to ride on street or paths. Cops down here in San Clemente are starting to crack down too. Too many entitled underage kids, riding with no helmet, opposite direction of traffic, or on sidewalks, doing wheelies and tricks. Just too many things, no license, underage, no helmet, no plate, not obeying traffic laws. A few screw it up for everyone
This exactly. I started following eBike channels a few months ago, and people constantly try to argue that something that looks like motorbike and rides like a motorbike somehow isn't a motorbike because it's electric, and it shouldn't be counted the same as a gas-powered motorbike that does exactly the same thing. Wrong. I'm all for electric eBikes and e-Motos for fun, commuting and work, but let's get them sorted out into proper categories and treat the fast ones exactly like mopeds and motorbikes.
I ride rail trails in PA all the time. Last week was my 1st time I saw a Surron on the trail and the riders were going way too fast and acting crazy. It's an electric dirt bike and doesn't belong on bike paths. I totally understand why this is coming to pretty much everywhere.
The Surron will be the first bike to get banned. Too many are not there doing videos and riding badly. If it looks like a dirt bike and it is on a trail that people or other slower traffic is using the trail stay off of it with a dirt-looking bike so the rest of us don't get banned also. Just because it was peddles isn't going to cut it.
Mainstream media lies & over dramatizes things a lot. They work with the government & haven't been about cold hard facts & the truth in an extremely long time. These methods are specially used to spread fear & control populations in a very specific matter. Very specific inaccurate terms were used on purpose, it gives a wider range of control & power to the elite & automatically dooms the lower level citizens.
No, its called being smart . Many have been saying along the hard restriction where coming soon . As proof all the police have to do is look up the thousands of videos of many riding reckless , completely ignoring the laws on safety . Wheelies on public roads , riding these high power rides on public sidewalks , riding in oncoming traffic lanes , weaving in and out of traffic , speeding well above the speed limit . Obviously it has to be stopped . As much as i like watching these videos here it also showcases riding behavior that is speeding up harsh restrictions . Many states are now calling out surrons and similar electric high power dirtbikes as ones to watch for to get off the roads. The time is here . Beware those illegally riding electric dirtbikes on the streets and especially sidewalks . They are going to get impounded at an alarming rate very soon .
sounds like riders breaking exist traffic laws. nothing to do with the type of vehicle. enforce existing rules/laws. ebikes dont commit crimes. . .people do.
These people ride without regard to anyone else. They are ridding these things at 30-50 mph and they are illegal on the road and are intended for off road only. Legal e-bikes are limited to 20 mph max speed. Take brain dead kids and adults and they ride that way. They ride them on side walks meant for only people and even ridden on the road the rules that apply to vehicles apply to bikes. So many blow thru stop signs ride into on coming traffic to name just two. I have been ridding my Rad Power mini for 5 years and have never had a problem, curtesy is something that goes a long way and these people do not know what that means. They do not know what danger they are putting their parents in financially and I guess the parents do not understand that either. I am 80 and they are a great way to get around town, given I live in a small town not in a big city. Ride safe
Oh thank god for your sir. I was going crazy reading these comments. Its really scary to see the lack of common sense people have these days. We live in an idiocrazy world.
And that’s why I live in rural, central Florida. It’s like California wants to be the western version of the UK, where you can’t enjoy anything thanks to draconian, liberal policies. Hey Sur-Ron riders in Hermosa Beach or anywhere on the west coast! Come on down to the swamp and ride with us!!!
If you ride your Sur Ron on roads in FL, you’ll get a ticket. Florida is strict on mopeds and scooters needing registration. I remember when DUI people discovered the moped loophole back in the 90s. Every bar’s parking lot was filled with mopeds.
Its popularity will definitely get Sur Ron style moto bikes banned all over the place. The issue is that there are enough riders being wreckless as well as dangerous that it ruins it for everyone else being responsible. Many of the younger riders definitely don't care much about everyone else around them, including cars, pedestrians, and regular cyclists. It's unfortunate, but now cities are talking about it because it actually has started to become a problem. If people just learned to be discreet and respectful while riding it wouldn't be an issue. But when riders are in big groups taking over roadways doing wheelies, showing off, and making a big scene...well, it gets noticed. So I fully expect, not want, local governments to come down on e-moto bikes. If you think about it, mopeds and scooters are regulated and an e-moto is essentially that same thing, just with an electric motor instead of gas powered one.
However, how will they ban Mountain Bikes that equip CYC motors and can reach speeds of 50mph in 5 seconds? If Surron's are banned? The next trend will be mountain bikes with 8kw which will reach 50 to 60mph in a shorter distance. Place an age requirement on the users are the only true solutions. 18 years of age should be the requirement. Why 18?...that's where children begin to understand they can be charged as an adult and taxed.
Or if you look up current law on ebikes you will see that any bike that goes over 20 mph is already illegal in California. Specially off road bikes lol.
This is a great video. In my area I can see how this could become a problem. Minute 5:36 hits the nail on the head. Listen I ride an ebike that isn't slow but I respect everyone around me when I am riding. So here is a solution. As the community we should teach and get involved so this doesn't hurt all of us. I often think that this explosion of ebikes is like when motorcycles from the late 50's into the 60's is very similar. Instead of banning them go out on your bike and interact with them and maybe set an example. Stop complaining, start nurturing. Not all of them are like that and they interact with me. The ones that are like that don't interact.
I sold my pristine MX4 two weeks ago. My thinking was to do so while I could still get a decent price for it because hooligans are driving the price down fast. And while fun to ride, I don’t need the hassle.
Meanwhile I did a group ride through the streets of Portland last night with 200 other people on ebikes, e-skateboards a e-unicycles and nobody gives a shit.
Thanks to slater(white impounded stark) and Langdon, i just rode my Super73 through a bunch of cops 4 hours ago and not a peep, assholes with mid drive motors are ruining for us in the South Bay
Mike Fede ( Scotty cranmers bud) has been uploading various videos the past however many months occasionally on his channel about what states have what rules now or coming out in the future. So if anyone needs the info take a gander might be helpful. If your area is mentioned that is.
Many have been saying along that hard restriction where coming soon . As proof all the police have to do is look up the thousands of videos of many riding reckless , completely ignoring the laws on safety . Wheelies on public roads , riding these high power rides on public sidewalks , riding in oncoming traffic lanes , weaving in and out of traffic , speeding well above the speed limit . Obviously it has to be stopped . As much as i like watching these videos here it also showcases riding behavior that is speeding up harsh restrictions . Many states are now calling out surrons and similar electric high power dirtbikes as ones to watch for to get off the roads. The time is here . Beware those illegally riding electric dirtbikes on the streets and especially sidewalks . They are going to get impounded at an alarming rate very soon .
It's more of people escalating conflicts, with emoto people & it's not only surrons but anything that looks like a motorcycle. I moved outta SoCal it's become a car dependent shithole, & it's getting only worse.
For real whats wrong with these people. Its the first thing I looked up. They been illegal lol its for off-road use that is why they are so fast. I don't understand what they are bitching about. They should be getting tickets and they probably are going to get themselves killed since they lack common sense.
I’m in Aussie, and the scene here isn’t as big but def there for sure, They are making a point of saying “young or juveniles” a lot in this, it may be a certain age and under, there should be a bit of a grace period as well..they should have zones where the speed gotta be dropped if anything, especially if there are bike lanes, I was ran over as a kid on a footpath by a mtb, so it’s not just e-bikes, I’d say it’s gunna be modified with something and that’s why it’s not specific atm, But while they at it tho, they should be hassling operators of those elderly mobility scooters as well
If you get mirrors turn signals and DOT tires im sure you can get tags might not be easy but possible for sure a website called Dirt Legal can help if you don’t want the hassle.
The common story in today's society. Parents either too busy or not around or raise their kids and so it's left up to the rest of society, and the police
Do not be sure that they will not ban all E bikes. Key Biscayne in Florida. Has already done this through emergency ordinances and they’re looking to make it permanent. That is all E bikes from all property even the roads in their community. It will stand until someone challenges the constitutionality of it. Thank you for keeping us informed of what is going on.
I’m a middle aged married man and business owner… And I would be a menace on this thing. Not all the time, but it’s just too tempting. I grew up riding my dirt bike everywhere (illegally) before I could (legally) drive. If a LEO came anywhere I’d just go off-road. They were wise enough not to chase. I never destroyed property-public or private- but I wheelied, skidded, slid around corners, and definitely would have burned through intersections like this kid/clip if that had been a thing. These things are way too powerful and fast, etc. to be without a license. I love e-bikes, and the fact that I was looking at clips etc is probably what drew me into this algorithm and clip. Teenage boys are always going to succumb to pushing the limits of hooliganism … God gave us way too much testosterone for the amount of reasoning at that age. Man I love the technology, but the adolescent brain just cannot use it responsibly. Sorry folks, registration and license for these machines; they’re awesome inventions used accordingly. South Bay neighborhoods are not appropriate territory for all that awesomeness!!!
When i bought my emtb from luna in El segundo, there were a bunch of 12 year olds with their parents buying these ebikes. I knew it was only a matter of time till the cops would get fed up. Kids in my neighborhood wont even wear helmets
Bro I'm in the IE and was recently jacked for my E-Bike😢... just be very careful around people without an E-Bike. It's apparently a good steal for knuckleheads. Thank you for your videos Hicks
i live in redondo beach ..its next to hermosa........every kid has a ebike here...the high school bike racks r filled with ebikes.......then a small group has e-motos..... police are targeting anybody thats clearly going over 20mph....and being reckless wheelies...jumping....
A bro in Beaverton got pulled over and was told he was not allowed on the road. Police said it needs to be registered and you have to have an m1 cycle license and tbh a BIG 🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼 to that, we cause no trouble in the bike lanes when we follow rules. I don’t understand why they need to punish all of us for the actions of few
New rules are expected to come. I saw Ann reportage about it a couple of days ago. US might end up going the same route as Europe. Max 250w engine- pedal assist only. Good luck! It sucks over here with these rules. Here in Norway, police take away the bike if you get stopped with more watt
I don't have an e bike, but I want one. Riding bikes as a kid was a pure form of freedom, adventure, and fun. We caused some problems for sure, but we weren't stealing from stores or spending all day looking at a screen. These bikes are fairly new and yes, they should be given to responsible enough kids. But man, I would much rather my kids be living life on a e bike than on an e screen. Get em into bikes, and they'll never have money for drugs. If people understood that e bikes could save even a small part of a generation, they might think differently. E bike riders, kids out there ripping it up, save face, have fun, be respectful of others, and give riders a good name. Keep the freedom alive but they'll take it away if we use the freedom to negatively affect the community we live in.
I live near Vancouver & most of the trails have signs saying no E-Bikes or Motorcycle but nothing about Scooters …for now. So ride my 65km/h off road Scooter everywhere…..the laws on the roads are the same with E-Scooters as it is with E-Bikes, you just have to watch ur speed & don’t be dumb around cops. Honestly if you bought a couple of scooters lots more would flock to your channel 🛴🔥 Great videos 😊
My biggest worry though with this is definition. You're going to end up with cops out there that see every electrically assisted bicycle as an e-moto and it's going to get ugly real quick for a short period of time or it's going to stay that way for a while as the DA's play whack a mole. I hope they really really take some time and train the officers on how to make distinctions
Oregon just updated their ebike laws - you need to be over 16, a licensed driver, or have a learner's permit to even ride an ebike of any class in public areas - just like mopeds, motorcycles, and gas scooters (hopefully soon we can register them so we can get insurance to protect us from uninsured drivers who would skip on our medical bills). In Oregon, you are eligible for your learner's driving permit at 15, so basically nobody under 15 years of age should be on a powered bike of any class or type or ticket, impounding, etc. They're not requiring a driver's license/permit unless you're 16 years old or younger, so as soon as you're 17 you don't even need a license. This makes it really easy to offer incentives for younger drivers to be more aware of their environment and consequences because they can take their driving privileges for reckless driving regardless of what vehicle they're riding and reckless driving here is pretty expensive ticket to deal with, in money and time (you might even go to jail); in Canada reckless driving is a straight up felony. If a kid has a job or they're off to college or whatever - losing those driving privileges is going to STING and they will think twice and three times before going ahead and doing the stupid thing anyhow lool This doesn't change anything for BLM service roads, OHV parks, etc - just get your OHV sticker for your vehicle (12 bucks) and there's no age limit/power limit/etc. Tear it up all day long and all night long if you want too.
They have a boardwalk like that here in Hollywood Beach Florida. They banned all of that stuff a few years ago. The exception is they are allowed if they have peddles on them. I’m thinking it all would have been fine is people weren’t so reckless.
It’s inevitable. Ultimately, e-bikes have become viable alternatives to ICE motorcycles/scooters. States want the income from registration. To be fair, when an e-bike has full street legal lighting and does 40 mph, that’s the same thing as a Honda Navi.
What is coming is everyone will require to register their ebike and purchase a tag/plate. Then a mandatory insurance on the ebike for liability and potential injury to others if in an accident. Liability coverage minimum $2 millions. Insurance cost would be around $200 per year.
This is where it starts. I knew this was going to happen. Remember when E Cigs first came out? We were in a golden age of unregulation. Then came the big government hands chocking out more and more of our freedom. Now E Bikes are becoming regulated. Soon you will need a license and have to pay more taxes to get it registered.
There are a lot of municipalities that already have ordinances that restrict dirt bike use on public roadways. The problem is that ebikes have kind of slipped through the cracks and aren't really defined in the same way as a gas powered dirt bike. I think you will see a lot of places playing catchup in order to limit off road/dirt ebikes from using public roads and paths. I don't even understand why anyone would want to buy an off road ebike for road riding. There are so many better options out there. I did love the mini bike being impounded. Definitely an oops by the editors. All that being said, passing laws and regulations won't be totally effective. Just look at Washington DC, which has a huge problem with gangs of ATV riders who terrorize their city streets. ATVs are not legal on roads in DC but it doesn't stop these gangs from ripping through the streets causing chaos.
(Just common sense policy for kids under 18)👍The emergency ordinance adds “operational regulations” that carry fines. Those under 18 must wear helmets, and all passengers must have their own seats. Fines can range from $500 to $1000. The Hermosa Beach Police Department has released several photos of seized E-bikes, some of which more resemble real motorcycles.Jun 5, 2024
I have a 14kw stealth bomber clone with pedals, I've been riding for 2 years without issue. I'm hoping to keep riding. every new hobby this happens with, airsoft, paintball, gel blasters. good luck.
1. The city of Hermosa Beach is corrupt as hell. 2. The cops never have enforce e-bike laws and I doubt they ever will 3. These kids are straight up menaces on these bikes, they don’t know how to properly ride on the road. 4. It’s the rich parents buying their kids these crazy bikes and not taking responsibility to teach them how to use it. 5. This entire thing would be solved if to use an e-bike you needed to have a license.
imagine if cars didn’t exist in society until fairly recently and all of a sudden kids started driving cars, running over people and crashing into horses and bulildings. no matter what type of vehicle, it’s always the driver at fault. banning isn’t a final solution but i suppose realistically it’s a point of where to start sending a message to the troublemakers.
Um not really a good comparison. Since scooter and bikes have existed before the cars? Just not with motors and still we got people who can't seem to follow simple rules with their bicycles. Like making way for traffic or waiting at a light or maybe don't swerve into traffic including and not limited to other bikes and people and cars etc. They still seem to crash and bash their skull open. Because no helmet. But hey oh well.
His point is that you can do a lot more damage on a bike doing 50 mph then you can one doing 15. Just like any rambunctious teenager with limited maturity and acxountability can do a lot more damage in car than on a scooter.
first of all they need to solve the homeless on the street and the more serious crimes and stop wasting resources on banning e-bikes ebike doesnt have enough juice to run away from the cops
You need to be 18 or over to buy off road ebike from Luna. It’s up to the parents to discipline their under aged kids if they are buying them this type of bike. Hey they can ride in private property or off the beaten path, but not in the city Buy them a regular ebike if they will ride in the city. Although that doesn’t stop kids from being kids
Isn't there a chance to get these impounded moto e-bikes (aka motorcycles coz bikes normally come with pedals) back? What do the cops do with them piled up at the end? In our country you need to send in a form, have them licensed and put on a plate plus follow the traffic rulez otherwise they are all considered as illegal and be confiscated (temporarly) unless they can prove or argue to have their own private property e.g. range to ride them on or just sell em. It's truly a shame there are a bunch of critters who always mess up and ruin the reputation of the entire scene. I'm not surprised it results in any new laws, ordinance or even bans. There ya go...
If you got that much money, hire someone to drive your kids and their bikes to an area that’s got somewhere to ride legally. Maybe that’s a business idea. Create an app where you can hire drivers with trucks and trailers that can do this. I mean if they are that rich in that area it should work right? Idk I’m torn on this issue. I don’t agree with the people who ride crazy around others but I also don’t want laws telling me I can’t ride respectfully in my area either.
I was thinking about getting one of these e-bikes. But I change my mind. I got a salvaged Kawasaki, Z 400 for half the price. I can take it up to the gold country and get away from everybody and their rules. It will also last twice as long Easily compared to these Chinese bikes that I wouldn’t trust. It’s also insured so if I get an accident my butt is covered. That’s what concerns me the most about these bikes. If you get in an accident with one of them, I get a feeling it will be your fault no matter what.
how bout they focus on all the theft and drug use that there stupid ass laws caused instead of cracking down on a form of transportation for a lot of people
This ban is actually one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen, these electric bikes are way more expensive then the used gas dirt bikes that we’ve been riding for years, so why are they making such a big deal over something that’s not super easy for your everyday person to get.
Its not the e-bikes its those e-moto dirt bike's Surrons, Talria's E-ride pro. I live in Maui Hawaii, and last night 2 juveniles got into an accident they hit a truck while riding. They were hurt and got transported to the hospital😢. I hope these laws pass in Hawaii too.
Oh shit forgot about the second channel.. what it do hix fam..(those who still have notifications on that is😂) And yeah saw this coming when parents started allowing their kids to be reckless and unsupervised.. what a drag man.
The problem isn't any vehicle. It's the riders. There are a lot of irresponsible riders out there. The simple solution would be to ban the shops from selling them to the criminals after an ID check, so the problematic kids and adults can't buy them anymore. The responsible people, however, will want to keep them safe from being stolen by the same problematic people, so best to store them to a parking with camera. Those would help to greatly restrict the problematic people in the long run. So long as you're irresponsible, you'll never be allowed to ride ever again.
