E0 Jingliu vs E1 Yanqing - v2.1 MoC 12 Aventurine | Honkai Star Rail 

What are ur thoughts on using 162spd sparkle and 161spd bronya with Jinglu? Slow Jinglu with atkboots

​@@user-qr3lr7sh1g Not a fan of that team comp. SP cost is too high even with Sparkle. And they cancel their buff to each other.

@@ravelika thnx I was just wondering because I got S clear in tides of war with that team😅 with the trial Jinglu that too

Yanqing will also be less locked to Aventurine as we get more and more 5 star shielders eventually

My biggest problem with Yanking has always been that you have no way of increase his follow up attack chance. That alone stops me from using him

He did well because he is single target it was a fair match. Jingliu takes less time in first half since multiple enemies Yanqing does better in the second side cause Aventurine is a single target enemy with no enemies that he summons

​​@@Jzkd2045They mean on the dice

That's not his only weakness bro

His weakness also his own scale , his raw power if compare with some single target like dr ratio who is the best hunt path

@@mercibeaucoup49 Seele is arguably better than or at least the same as Ratio. But yeah Yanqing is in a horrible position because he can't do any substantial damage without a perfect scenario and even then other characters can still out damage him. The only way to save Yanqing is to give my boy a buff.

​​​@@LoppedofflemonsJust give Yanqing shield and he can do his job good. I mean, his damage is not that bad, and the problem is not about his damage, it's about his high energy with his big massive damage is after his ult with self-buff like Seele but Seele's buff is easy to maintain not like him. His scale is almost like Seele except his ult scale weaker than her ( with Dr. Ratio both him and Seele far behind). As you can see in the vid, his damage is high, it's even compete with Seele or maybe a bit worse if not for Ruan Mei e1, like if Seele ult is 240k then Yanqing ult is a bit worse with 200-220k, I've already reach 230k with him with only Pela Tingyun

@@thienvinhle611 I do think Yanqing can make a comeback(Aventurine is step one and new end game is step 2) but he still has the issue of being out valued by many characters. If Yanqing had a more consistent talent or if he was able to apply dissociation, then he can do extremely well. But for now he is still the worst 5 star(not worse character anymore yay).

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*Jingliu

You mean Hagliu?

Queenliu mogs that cow Yanshit

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@@luvvrougeas the cloud knight yanking fought the fraud, the marastriken jingliu…

⁠@@santabakure6264he began to open up his domain. Jingliu shrunk back in fear then YANKING said, “Stand proud Jingliu, you are strong”

Jingliu rely on her transmigration state, to enter it you need more moves so Sparkle/Bronya is logical. For Yanqing ult provides him more buffs, so Tingyun should be better. Aventurine meanwhile allows him to have Soul Link more consistently.

​​@@user-yo1im9pi8zbut more turns also means much more energy is it not? And obviously more DMG. Ting ults every 3 or 2 turns.

@@Jb-tj2qu Thats because if you were to run Yanqing with Bronya or Sparkle, you are bound to run into several issues(namely energy and sp issues). Nearly all of Yanqing's dmg comes from his ult, which is why he is run with inert salsatto. Tingyun run with dance dance dance allows for Yanqing to gain energy while also speeding him up.

@@Loppedofflemons gotchu, so he's basically tied to tingyun? About SP idk if he'll have problems with sparkle. What if you replace Ruan Mei with sparkle for more energy and turns?

@@Jb-tj2qu Sparkle doesn’t give energy. Also I think that the person intentionally had Ruan Mei and aventurine on both teams to make both team comps more even. Ruan Mei is superior to sparkle because of her higher synergy with ice characters. Ruan mei also has crazy ally dmg boosts and can increase speed.

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that's why she's the most reliable dps, very easy to build

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@@bromaster9017 oh no not everyone is obsessed with your waifu, poor thing

It's always like that and soon you'll get bored of YQ with aventurine. With so many DPS, it's easy to get bored of a DPS but sustainers will always be with you.

@@esmi1495 cooked him right... lmao

That’s not always the case. I got bored with Jing Liu as well because her mechanics are basic. Same with Argenti. Great characters but their kits do not take any skill.

it's Normal for Hoyo community when the character doesn't have an OP kit or is a bit hard to play, I know he's bad but not that bad lol

Yanqing's kit was never really hard for me to play, his soul steel is re-acitvated pretty easily, I guess it's for consistency.

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I agree! When we get back to the xianzhou I really hope they show him how good he actually is

Use Pela if you don't have Ruan Mei.

@@ravelika okay thanks

Lmao me too, my E2 Yanqing is mostly from standard instead of 50/50 losses

I had to do it like that or else she'd waste the 1 last extra stack in the next aventurine dice, which makes her next spectral transmigration take longer. It's no problem if she enters aventurine gamba mode if she has 2 stacks since she has a chance to get another one when she gets her ult back from winning the gamba.

Adventurine imo

Just go for Aventurine if you don't have 2 sustains plus you already have Acheron to clear the whole game

You already have acheron Go for aventurine because his shield is insane

s1 swordplay wont be very good. Only silence remains excels only in 2 or single target scenarios. herta LC requires a kill for the big atk boost and topaz sig is mostly for FUA. you should run Only silence remains where its single target and herta LC anywhere else. Also 2 piece debuff 2 piece ice is good

S5 Herta Shop is good enough but personally I'll take Swordplay for long term since you will S5 it eventually.

I tested it and the new hunt lc final Victor is actually good on him since his playstyle fits the lc.

His ruan mei is using a 3* lc wdym

Aventurine has synergy with any DPS in the game. He is like Fu Xuan, Luocha in that he fits anywhere and works

@@adrianpaulochoa9825 woow thanks

@@adrianpaulochoa9825but wouldnt Jingliu’s HP drain be a problem if you use aventurine as solo sustain cuz your characters cant heal.

​​@@gxgardenterprise9705 aven's shields strong enough to keep your team untouchable. JL drains 4% hp per each her enhanced strokes. It means that you have to do 25 turns in her boosted state until all teammates reach 1 hp. Normally if you have to do so many turns in one battle it means that something went completely wrong.

@@esmi1495 isnt it 4% each attack in her enhanced state? So 12% if you count it with her ult?

Well he is a hunt. He’s suppose to be stronger in ST scenarios. If he’s falling behind or tying against a destruction unit in ST that is not a good thing at all.

Trust me, you lose 50/50 to him. You will never want to see him again.

@@harfi212 I really don't care about meta, if you think you can get every single limited character for free in a free gacha game of this quality, you should think twice. Both him and Bailu are way stronger than a Qiqi or Dehya in Genshin Impact and i use Dehya daily there. I don't see what's the problem with losing 50/50. Who should i see if i lose the 50% then, after one copy of them they are all the same till E6, maybe Bronya is a bit better but that's about it. I have no Keqing from 3 years of playing Genshin. Winning 50/50s is great and all but it's still a FREE HIGH LEVEL GACHA GAME. Either you swipe or plan the possibility of losing.

@@TerraTheWise Still, it's a unit you're supposed to lose your pulls to, not a limited character. If he can tie that way is ok imo. I've seen people 0Cycle with him in this MoC, so i guess he's better than trash.

@@TheAmigos62 I’ve also seen people 0 cycle with Arlan, Xueyi, and QQ. 0 cycling just isn’t a good metric for how strong a unit is.

May your wish come true

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@@benpork8533 💀

Pls take all of my yq

may you lose your 50/50 and get yanking soon 🙏

Nah

He needs shields

You can use March or Fire MC but his performance will drop a lot since March draws aggro to the person she shields, and Fire MC shields aren't going to prevent him from being hit. Still, March 7th is a little more usable, and her shields are better. At E6, she also grants the ability to heal a little.

Yes, but Sparkle has more flexibility than Bronya since she generates SP for the team. Thus allowing both comps to skill spam, keeping Jingliu and Yanqings passives up more consistently. I would also like to add that crit damage is a welcomed stat since you can't over cap.

@@runningtiger7624 Jingliu don't need sparkle to skill spam, she's one of the dps who can run +1 bronya strat with no drawback, even Tingyun is stronger than sparkle if your jingliu have over 240% cdmg

Bronya, you already have a ton of crit that sparkles crit dmg buff is less then bronya atk% DMG% and crit buff. She also likes the 100% AA from Bronya more then 50%

135-134 spd tech requires E1S1 Bronya to work well which I don't have and even with that I doubt she can clear faster unless she has her sign LC.

​@ravelika it does not require e1s1 to work with this same team, this team doesn't use skill points

@@dankmeimes4274 nah, they use skill points even Aventurine because Jing liu's shield would easily wear off because she keeps advancing by Bronya and herself

@@exian5074 yeah I'm saying you can support the skill point consumption

@@dankmeimes4274 ok, haha

aventurine shields on skill, gepard shields on ult. aventurine also has abilities in his kit that allow him to regenerate the shield without using skill points making him much more reliable as a sustain that makes sure yanquing never takes damage, he's far more consistent. But you can run gepard he isn't bad at all especially for su if you do rememberance path or want to burst down ice targets.

the only downside of yanquings kit is that he has to not take damage to get his stacks and aventurine just guarantees him not getting hit at all

E1?

@@clarrk1850 nope E0

Team?

@@mauriciorosademoraes9209 bronya e1s1, ruan mei e0 and huohuo e0. Jingliu lightcone is aeon, atk 2300, spd 139, crits 46/205 on ice relics. Bronya 131 spd and 200 cd. Ruan 140 spd, 180 be and memory of the past. Huohou e0 139 spd and quid pro quo. All of them expext Jingliu have regeneration rope and all lightcones s5

@@BlackberryBreeze-ty6lb The only thing i can think to improve your run is breaking with Jingliu or killing the minions of the IPC Dude to increases your damage. Against Aventurine (Boss) i think that can be improved of your characters besides Jingliu hitting the enemy more because one the main things of this vid is how often Aventurine (unit) hits the enemies and increasing the MoC debuff for Jingliu deal way more damage, so... hitting Aventurine (Boss) with your Huohuo/Ruan Mei when you can can improve a bit. The rest is improve your rotations, but normally people improve rotations after losing so yeah, it's hard to improve the rotation when you already can win.

@@mauriciorosademoraes9209 ty so much😭 I'll try

@@BlackberryBreeze-ty6lb also the mechanic of winning the gamble makes the characters that win increase significant their damage output

I hate to tell you but that's not a mistake. I did that on purpose. Playing Jingliu against Aventurine is very very tricky. If I use her ult at that time, the last extra stack she gained will be wasted in 2nd phase gamba. Doesn't matter whether she loses or wins 2nd phase gamba, she's out from her transmigration stance which makes her next transmigration stance take longer. THIS will cost her an extra cycle. And if you want to talk about luck. The first wave of Jingliu side needs layers of luck to 0-cycle it. Jingliu needs to get hit once to get her ult. Aventurine needs to get direct hit twice to get his ult, does FuA, and gets at least 3-5 stacks after ult. The last standing summoned monster has to be the Spear so Aventurine can finish the fight with FuA when that monster attacks. Believe me, you don't want to know how many times I had to reset to get that perfect setup 💀

@@ravelika I did 2 cycle Jingliu at first attempt. And 5 cycle yanqing at 10th attempt. Yanqing is bad. You lost 1 cycle cuz of speed. Need speed tuning for aventurine boss. Thats why my Tingyun 166 speed, not 165

​@@YuriRVGWith Jingliu it's about the player, with Yanqing it's about luck huh. Then, what is the "luck" you talk about? I mean If it about Yanqing, there's always excuse, a lot of

@@YuriRVG 2 cycle clear 1st try without trial and errors or godly luck is hard to believe. Like that's a big claim. Not to mention 2 cycle, I hardly seen 3 cycle clear on this site. Most did it in 4-6 cycle. Don't tell me you did it without sustain because that's going to make your claim irrelevant.

He's C tier because he lacks 2 things Any cleave in a widely 3 target format And consistency in needing to be undamaged and his follow ups being entirely random

Him being married to sustain and having to fight insane rng to be played sustainless for faster clears is a huge downside

@@dankmeimes4274 but other single target character and RNG based characters are also rated good? QQ rating is based off relying on mostly getting good luck and launching follow attack, plus u need sustain in a team anyway and he’s easy to build due to the easy crit stats

@boredperson1011 qq rng has a built in pity system and failsafe, yanqing it's just a coin flip I don't think qq is as good as people say either And no you don't need a sustain, I don't play any sustains in moc anymore

@boredperson1011 yanqing needs a sustain because in order to play him sustainless you'd need to enter a reset grind

ig people that missed her are mad that she dominated the meta for months and now since shes not no 1 anymore they try to trashtalk as much as they can. people always say that jingliu simps are the worst but wherever i go i only see people that are mad of jinglius performance lmao. maybe jingliu simps trash talked everyone back then and now these people are taking revenge idk. anyways youre right a destruction unit tying with hunt unit on single target scenario just shows how strong jingliu still is not to mention she didnt even had her bis support here

@@shadowreaper4970 yeah true ig people just don’t have anything else except for this video game in their lives and bcs theres not much to do in hsr rn they just spent their time fighting pointless battles. Imagine how nice the community would be if ppl just accepted that maybe their characters aren’t the best and moved on continuing to play with them instead of trying to fight online

​@@shadowreaper4970 I would say that Acheron mains are like the most delusional mains in the game..

E0S0 3 cycle clear is horrible? Ok...

@@ravelika there's plenty of mistake man.... u can do it this fast because your team is well built but for exemple you dont use right the passiv of sparkle's lightcone.

@@OtpRell "u can do it this fast because your team is well built. you dont use right the passiv of sparkle's lightcone" Just from these sentences alone, I can tell you really don't understand what you're talking about 🤦‍♂

@@ravelika okok , read again ur lightcone , i cant be more obvious than that , if u regen 4 sp u gain a lot of crit value , + u random auto as bronya anyway gl for ur next run .

@@OtpRell Just stop bro... This is why I told you, you don't know what you're talking about. You should be the one who needs to read it properly. The SP regen "including Skill Points that exceed the limit".

salty waifu coomers, the first phase is full of mobs. why are u insecure someone compared ur boring waifu to some dude?

comments shows that people arent that bright 💀

if you have jingliu, you can forget about yanqing.

@@letuan5376 i don't have Jingliu, and i don't have ice dps

@@Xiao_Yin- e2 misha is better than e0 yanqing

@@iblamenomad I have e3 Misha, with cr 70+ cdm 180, but his ult damage can't reach 150k

Build him if you like him or don't have JL but have Aventurine.

I mean if the 3 cycle clear I did here isn't telling you that this team is good then you can just watch any vid in RU-vid showcasing her with her supposed "best team". Just keep in mind most of them cleared this stage in 4 to 6 cycle 🥶

bruh jingliu has 2 5* harmony and yanqing only got 1. u blind or just dumb?

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F73WyPkphVc.html Is this what you want right?

I also want to know what is the difference between Sparkle and Bronya though since I hear alot that Sparkle doesn't do much for Jingliu

​@@ravelika Can you check out my shared link and give me some thought about it?

No

in single target yes

A hunt character who is suppose to be the king of single target dps is barely keeping up with a destruction unit meant for blast damage and that is downright sad.

@@TerraTheWise I mean, not really, we're long past the time Destruction was only good for AOE.

My DHIL with signature did worst than my Dr.Ratio with yanqing's LC against MoC 12 cocolia

Aventurine is a big buff for him if you get him

shouldve atleast made his fua 100%

Its 60% fua. And probably 65% at E5. It should gave been 100% but he definitely was made Super early into the game development.

it's not get hit, but if he received dmg and his hp drained DUH