E0S1 Feixiao 0-Cycle with an F2P Team | Feixiao Early Access 

The Prydwen site listed one of Robins downsides that she requires galaxy brain to full utilize. Relateable.

Skill gap

​@@jannisopelhonestly based lmao, because is true, Robin may be op asf, but you need to know what are you doing

@@jannisopel that is really funny to read, considering how HSR battle system lacks almost any complexity.

@@yuzu3754 i'd like to present you eagle set tuning.

There's a doomposting guide in the Feixiao mains subreddit. They simply need to follow the next step which is to blame relics 🤣

Why did this keep happening to every dps lately starting with Boothill's release

​​@@valerie_sees it already happen even before Boothill

​@@valerie_seesit always happen every unit, tho it became worse when ff is in beta (even to this day its still ongoing lmao)

Nobody is saying she is bad, she isn't on par with acheron tho

Shifu is Chinese for "Master" after all.

@@xenoemblem7 Yup, that's what I meant. It would be cool if the General herself mentored March, if only for a little bit :)

feixiao is the best driver for march 7th, topaz and e1 jade.

@@leylintempest1714 Sadly, of all the heroes listed I only have March :(

also best driver for moze too I think atleast​@@TwiDancer

remember when sparkle came out and everyone was doomposting saying bronya is powercrept they're not in competition they just have different roles it's cool

@@theonetheycallheadspace2899 I mean Sparkle would have allowed 2 better characters for FX to be slotted in (Moze or Topaz), also buffed all of FX's out of turn actions, and had no skipped skills which is like 80-100k+ for each one skipped, just from FX alone. I think it's fair to say she has been power crept, but we also have ridiculously strong F2P units like Hunt March that literally lets you dish out 100k basics every 1 and a half turns for no SP, on top of also buffing FX a bit, and that helps Bronya's case A LOT. It's also not like Feixiao isn't effectively ignoring all of the mobs defenses at this point considering her LC gives her another layer of Pela ult + Resolution...... Acting like she could be E0S0 and still 0 cycle this smoothly a patch ago while giving up 3 of the DPSs skills, in anything other than break which also has its own broken support in HMC, is wild. She comes back into relevance when a 4 star gets its wings.

@@Gration_sparkle really doesn't synergize with fx much at all Sparkle largely replaced her for 0 speed crit hypercarries but she still holds some very strong positions High speed carries like FX or Boothill are big examples where sparkles falls flat simply because 50% AA=/=100% You can't run an X-1 speed sparkle, you can run bronya It's just a role difference thing

​@@theonetheycallheadspace2899If you're using sparkle with fx, give fx attack boots and sparkle 160+ speed. It's really that simple

@@theonetheycallheadspace2899 The character who buffs stuff out of turn and gives more turns.....doesn't synergize with the character who wants more turns and has out of turn actions.....weird. Even weirder, thinking half the extra actions suddenly means sparkle's AV wouldn't be great, especially when more damage is coming out of the team more often considering everyone is spamming...... So weird.

I learned something new today

she didn't, the atk buff is for everyone but march's technique requires 3 other techniques to be used in order to gain stacks at the start

@@miyakofuyama I didn't know that, good info to have.

The Bronya build is pretty damn impressive to be fair. Almost as good as my Sparkle that's also on 4pc Eagle 168 spd S5 DDD, worked on her since day one and just last week finalized that build 😂 That said the Feixiao build is fairly relatable, as long as you're willing to hyper invest into speed and crit rate.

@@bjornnilsson2941 That is true. The budget version nowadays is to use Kalpagni for the 6% boost which sacrifices 10% CDMG from Keel, not too much lost but hey, less farming.

@@LisaraScarlet Oh you're right, I imagine it would be a lot easier on Kalpagni these days, mine is on keel too. "Keel is the real deal", especially since you also need to find some EFF RES subs.

Do you have 168 spd bronyab wirh 170 cd on eagle set? Yeah, would take a whole family fortune to get those piece

@@omega6826 just dedication to the wind domain. Mine is 168 / 190 and I’ve never refreshed ever. Worth all the trash pieces you have to go through to get there? Probably not, at least for the average player.

With robin they could -1 cycle 🌝

i dont think farming for those relics is effortless but still impressive

​@@tardwrangler1019lmao those relics are literally crap stuff that are very easy to get

@@shiki7160 those bronya relics are insane

​@@tardwrangler1019What are you smoking dude? There's so many wasted stats on those relics I'd actually cry if you think that's insane as it means you've never seen anything better and RNG hates you....

Now thats a team i wanna see. Feixiao for single target and acheron for aoe. But this team will favour acheron, feixiao stack generation will drop

Depending on the relic, it could be possible with wind set Feixiao, JQ can actually help out too ​@@magoomania6278

Wait that’s pretty interesting actually

just need topaz lc to try this 😩

Which atp is just a skill issue since it's not like the eidolons leave the event, just the gems

They'll blame bronya and DDD first, like that's not used in every dps 0 cycle

@@ch1dd Some ppl already blaming Bronya in the comments lmfao

@@Gojiradogzillagodzilla this community is a lost cause on some subjects I swear...

Cause there's a big super break vs fua meta war rn

let them bait while we ff havers r clearing all endgame modes with ease since her release with the same team , heck even the nxt patch's enemies r still easy to clear. These people act that the jades r wasted on her while on reality we alr have more jades for the nxt unit we want.

@@lurkera7351 real

its genuinely so funny seeing "my unit 0 cycles more than your unit" like why do any of them give a shit

@@hurmmmmphhhamm Usually comes from people who have to make a choice between which unit to get. As someone with all the harmonies and soon to be all their DPSs, it's very rarely crossed my mind on who was better considering they all do the same exact thing in the same number of cycles, barring the clear favoritism when each DPS initially drops.

Dude this moc people do with march 7 feat sushang 0 cycle . Its just merchant works to sell feixao . U can swap her for same result.

​@@Narberalgamma1 Source? Was it Velleity's vid?

@@Narberalgamma1 if you're talking about velleitys vid then I'm convinced that you don't know how to read. 0 cycling an MoC is easy, low cost 0 cycling is hard (basically the less limited chars that team has the better), it's the same reason why Firefly gets all the hate and shits since shes not good under low cost 0 cycle (ex. Himeko outshines her on Choir with 0 cost while the best for Firefly is 2 cost trotterless and 1 cost with Trotter). It's also the same reason why Seele is still very good, she utilizes 4* chars very well so 1 cost Seele is the best character as of right now, getting an even better upgrade at 2 cost but that's also where a lot of Meta dpses get their huge upgrade.

@@Narberalgamma1 really? is it the Velleity's vid with 8 fricking cost? And they get to use E1S1 Robin and E1S1 Ruan Mei? Nah you tripping if you thought that Feixiao can just be swapped by anyone in this team

@@Narberalgamma1 The next moc buff doesn't suit her, but she still cleans at the lowest cost possible. And besides, did you watch the previous video? Lisara did 0 cycle without using Feixiao's ultimates. Seriously, you'd have to be blind not to see how strong she is.

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I think its valid, robin isnt used here but the relic substats are absolutely broken...if you gave firefly substats akin to whats going on here and teammates with equally insane substats you'd probably see something similar happening

fr, it is more like Firefly with Ruan Mei

​@@VeskaKnowsHell nah mate. No amount of extra break will compensate for losing a whole ass 100% superbreak mult. That's like acheron losing all her flower procs and bounce hits. It won't be the same unit

@@michaelharis9962yes. You could almost argue robin is necessary to allow feixiao to reach her full potential, as they are so synergistic with each other. Hmc and firefly, on the other hand, is simply an inseparable pair, at least until they release a 5-star hmc alternative. But then again, that just indicates that ff totally requires a specific kind of booster with whom she has an extremely symbiotic relationship, much more so than any other pair in the game so far.

​@@VeskaKnows they aren't broken, no we do not, if you actually have FF and tried a similar scenario you will not 0 cycle, this is only possible cause of the FUA mechanics, ratio can do this too with the same team but FF has no similar team, she NEEDS HMC or RM for now*

I'd say a week after she releases, happened with Jiaoqiu too and his way worse, but now JQ is competing with RM and Robin even for non debuff teams

This was a strat popular among welt mains, so I don't blame you not knowing

@@pieman2025yeah, it works well for welt and march sustain, since their cc also skips the enemy turn and knocks them down to the next one.

I used this strat alot using preservation march back in 1.0 but nowadays i just kind of forget lmao

@@pieman2025ahh, I’ve never used welt before, that might be why

It's a nice stat stick but it won't be much better than Stellar Sea. Your Bronya being E4 means you can drop SPD boots for an ATK boots so I guess you could match it? I am not too sure though.

You mean Yanking -1 HP?

Too brutal. Totally not because Yanqing was beat into a pulp.

that bronya is pretty crazy though

Yep, there's no denying that the Bronya build is literally end-game. Nowadays though, it is made easier to achieve with the introduction of Kalpagni planar set.

I am playing since release and still have to use 4 random pieces just to reach 160 spd on Bronya...

Pela's only useful eidolon in this run is her E1 so if you're looking to replicate this run, you'll need to wait to get that eidolon. If you're not 0-cycling, then E0 is totally fine. Alternatives are SW and Jiaoqiu.

He actually is.

​@@LisaraScarlet can you make a vid on that? I'd like to see what are her viable robin replacements, thank you

@@LisaraScarlet thanks🙏 i have e1 and i really wanna play feixiao but im not sure if i can get both robin and feix

There's a fua vs break meta war ongoing

Bronya can be guaranteed on the 300 standard selector.

Any sustain is fine if you're not aiming to 0-cycle but Gallagher or Aventurine stands out.

I mean, it's a good LC as long as you can meet its condition.

OURbiter General.

Goat commenting on another Goat's video

Tbh most Feixiao Mains were Acheron Mains in disguise during her beta period wich is funnier (Every single post there was someone saying she was shittier than Acheron)

​@@ilythorisas an Acheron main ( sub reddit) tbh we mind our own business really. Even now we have Acheron x Feixiao showcases and people post about pulling her. The same thing happened during the firefly as well. People were mostly excited for firefly.

@@FEIXIAO_WAITER Im pretty sure that was a lot of toxic comparison during Feixiao Beta, between her and Acheron mostly. I was there since i like Feixiao, im not saying most of you do that but its like the Jingliu Mains Legacy, until a new hot woman outdmg Acheron definitly, they will shit on other character shouldnt call them mains but rather meta cock suckers if anything

Looks like a good team if you want a sustain in it. Moze is typically better but March is easily better if your Moze has little to no eidolons.

@@LisaraScarlet march 7th is still better than e2 moze? At which eidolon will moze be better than march?

@@budikuesal7722 Probably starting at E4. It's really hard to say at the moment since I haven't played Moze that much yet.

If by "game knowledge" you mean getting lucky with my relics and have everyone be on eagle set with 160+ speed and also pulling S5 of every 4 star LC, then boy i have zero knowledge of this game. People pull all this fancy 5 star units not as a crutch for game knowledge but because it provides comfort to them. You don't need to have unrealistic builds that will take months to build when you can make do with decent relics while getting carried by the sheer strength of the character's kit Also keep in mind 0 cycling is just a showcase for the most part. Your average player is fine with taking more cycles than that as long as you can 3 star the MoC. Be it 8 cycles one side and 2 cycles the other, as long as you clear it it's fine

Meta-wise, supports are more valuable than main DPS's and so is miss Robin, but if you don't care about meta and can already clear most endgame content, then go ahead. Pull for Feixiao!

If you need or want her, get her. Supports will probably get the most reruns anyway. Plus, you have more support options than dps that will match the floor, I would prioritize dps despite the community thinking general use supports are better investment.

Depends on what you have, if you have bronya at E4, yes you can skip her but if you wanna buff your overall team's DMG than robin is better pick up

@@BukharaSuparyanto-ry7ig I don't have Bronya E4, only E0. I have Topaz, Sparkle, Aventurine though.

Yes, Gallagher is another good alternative

Pela. Yes, Gallagher is good.

Sorry for bursting your bubble but check out the speed

@@Badieonit’s not an insane build tho? Just high speed high cr that’s it

@@Badieon She is hunt ofc

​@@Badieon Sorry to burst your bubble but not eceryone has trash relic like you

​@@fastgameknight167 spd build is not insane? Do you have like 10 char with that spd store in your closet?

With March, she already becomes 170 speed.

S5 Dance3x is a requirement to get Bronya's 3rd action per wave.

@@LisaraScarlet ty! I was struggling to find the answer to that specific question

Took 12 minutes to get the clear after forming the strategy.

@@LisaraScarletthat why i said it rng setup💀, i bet most people who tried this strat gonna having hard time cuz its literally lack sustain..they need to change their build or farm relic that has speed stat

​@@kaycex1going sustainless for 0 cycle is common practice

With crit damage buffs from bronya, hunt march, and her own trace, the crit ratio is balanced and atk% is actually more valuable than crit damage here.

+25 from Duran, +60% from March, +36% from her own Traces. +48% from this specific Bronya. Looking at other support that she can use, E2 Moze +40%, Aventurine Ult +15%, Sparkle +50%, Robin +45%, Topaz LC +12%. Yeah she got a lot of Crit DMG buff source, hence priorities Crit Rate. If it ain't 100%, it's 50 50.

Alright guys I'll take note

Not really. I guess its better if you experience it yourself once Feixiao is out. Try her with and w/o Robin.

@@LisaraScarlet have u tried her without any FuA characters? How was is it?

@@pamud9348 Nope because that's like playing Ratio w/o a single debuff source.

@@LisaraScarlet yeah, so its like playing acheron without nihility right?

@@pamud9348 I guess so. I mean, the whole thing is like. Ratio needs a debuffer to function but also extremely strong with Tingyun, it's why the older 0-cycle Ratio vids are always with Pela+Tingyun. Even though Tingyun isn't mandatory like Pela, the synergy is too strong. This is basically Feixiao in a nutshell. Another FUA = debuffer. Robin = Tingyun.

Take note that most of DPS 5 star and Even some 4 star can 0 cycle with triple support and investment, i though that's a common knowledge.

At the beginning of the video she literally says robin is as important as nihility for acheron or hmc for ff. this 0 cycle only works because the investment is absolutely stupid, getting all 4 characters to 160+ speed and decent substats in their required areas is something you will most likelyy not be accomplishing. so just becareful of your expectations

@@xMomoee cool

@@VeskaKnows you seem to misunderstand. I'm not saying this is viable for everyone, but rather, a response to people with their pull priority videos. Giving props to Lis for finding unique ways to play characters.

@@mahiruhoshino ahhh makes sense my apologies 🙇

does this not prove that Hunt is good? I swear you all keep digging yourself deeper with every new video

@@fuecocomaster5463 i'm not even denying that hunt is good, i'm just surprised hunt have to go with some extra steps like not using this and that to prove it Meanwhile some blast and aoe carry really crying when they didn't get the optimal buffs/debuffs for them

​@@fuecocomaster5463 bro lacks reading comprehension skills

You do not need a sustain if you can kill the opponent fast enough!

There's a chance a fast gallagher or aventurine could replace pela in this. But maybe she's needed to stack defense shred further for the LC. Friendly reminder that you have a least 5 cycles to clear

When a character can take 5 actions in one turn, I don’t think you’ll really need a sustain

Guarantee your Robin first.

Feixiao gets way more actions with Bronya which helps her reset her talent. More actions from Feixiao also helps whoever the other FUA character is.

@@LisaraScarlet does having more turns to reset the talent can make up for the loss of damage and not getting stacks due to Feixiao switching to basic attacks and not getting buff on her FuA attacks? Plus being limited to just March as her sub dps since March can't stack Feixiao's ultimate as fast as Topaz/Moze. Sorry if I sound rude and thank you for answering

Speed boots to do the -1 speed setup with Bronya is always gonna be better.