1.4 Redeem Code: PT8TF72MQ93X Good Luck to all Jingliu wanters! Jingliu is Broken! *Both are broken main damage dealers, if you look at my DanHIL, he deals worse dmg than Jingliu, that's because I don't use a hypercarry team, also he doesn't use his signature LC and my relic build on him is quite bad. But I have to admit that Jingliu is easier to build, because we can get 50% crit rate just from her talent
@@FyanGamingum i need advice from you, i got E0S1 on Danheng IL and should i pull for Jing Liu or wait for the Luocha rerun? (I only have natasha as healer in my team)
This comment section is probably the most radioactive place after Twitter of course. Literally 1 digit IQ, trash talking each other, while know nothing about the game. First of, can we get rid of the "mid" term, it’s getting cring as hell, do you even know what mid means? If you have minimum of 2 brain cells, you would know how to use it correctly. The amount of bias spreading both Dan heng and Jingliu mains are absurd. (Example? The dudes literally have Daniel avatar, your judgment holds no vaule) This video, is clearly not a fair comparison, Daniel was not in his traditional hyper carry team hench why his dps drop. But that doesn't mean he wasn’t buff correctly, welt helped alot for dan heng passive, Yukong believe it or not buff much more than Bronya and Tingyun, she's just very very hard to use, even at E6. Next, people say dan heng build was trash, well um, no, that's the thing, he is hard to build. But his kit gives so much dmg% he makes up for it (which you don’t see on stats alone and you probably can't read to understand him anyways) Jingliu, on the other hand, is really easy to build. Literally, f2p, minimal investment can get you up to 200% crit dmg no cap. With high investment like myself, 300%+ crit dmg achievable. However, the one thing that hold her back is she lack dmg%, which you cannot get anywhere other than some lightcone and support. Remember, diminishing return only exists when stats aren't balance. So you can now all shut up, when you think this jingliu build is crack, no it's not, it's part of her kit and ment to be this way. Roll for both charaters, build them, study them before being THAT confident when arguing like a bunch of toddlers.
The fact dan heng despite not having good build is doing nearly the same damage as jingliu, both buffed People just loves to trashtalk a Lot and spread panic about powercreep Which it actually exists but people rlly believe is worse than what it is in reality Leaks are Also proving older chars are not getting behind, with new support characters for them, new artifact sets, whatever Just a Lot of misinformation is kinda infuriating, and Also toxic behavior towards people that doesn't agree with their garbage
@@fannumerounodegoku5769Bro wtf are you talking about? Use your brain properly. This guy simply didn't have any better build, are you gonna say him to not use DHIL?? Who the fuck are you????
Actually, that's quite easy to achieve because she buffs crit chance (and you can use cd body) and has lots of crit damage in traces 😅 (Mine have 90% CR and 260% CD lol)
@@Guilherme-ek7vr It’s crazy to think that her combined multipliers aren’t far behind Yanqing, but she has Blasts and extra free cdmg from traces and huge attack buff from team hp. So she makes him look soooo bad.
@@phucho4317 Well, of course I'm considering her 50% CR, but yeah, the rest is build, light cone and eidolon; She has more exactly 39,2%cr and 268%cd with 143speed If you're curious or want to prove, my UID is 601418180!!!
Nah, Dan Heng is still the strongest DPS in the game, IL is using a not optimal team without his lc. It'll be hard to powercreep DHIL, and he's only getting strongee once 1.5 drops and her ideal harmony support drops. Also, he's competing with her DPS even without an optimal build and a team catered to him. Shows only how strong he is.
Just cope mate. Jing liu damage might not be same as DHIL but its not really behind DHIL. and the fact that she is easier to build SP friendly and auto friendly puts her in same level as DHIL and please stop riding daniel hengs dick at the moment when we have a clear winner.
why did you use past and future instead of planetary randevous? I'm pretty sure That past and future only buffs 1 character after the user, after they uses their skill. so dhil doesn't get the buffs since welt from what i've seen always goes first before him
Seriously this comment section suffocates me. I am Dan Heng IL main and yet I am not as petty as downplaying other DPS mains to make my favorite character look good it would make us Imbibitor Lunae stans being hated by community, even the owner of this channel see them both as solid DPS. Jingliu is S-tier that's for sure, so no need to debate even further, you guys want good characters pick whichever you like.
I play Dan Heng and I was screaming when you used yukong with Dan Heng, as for welt I think it’s fine it just depends on the relic set your using. Yukong I think isn’t the best support for him but it does makes sense because building him is pretty hard especially supports because you need them to be skill point friendly, current I’m using Pela and tingyun on him, I tried yukong she has amazing buffs but she makes it hard for me to get dan hengs max basic every turn
Huh? Mono imaginary.. with their build they have the best damage output when imprisonment happens. + yukong crit dmg and crit rate boosts, why are they not good with dan heng exactly?
Makes sense about the skillpoint but realistically i just never used sp on luocha because of his healing aura. And welt just helps a lot in gen. I never really have this problem, but i think its because I have his signature lc so he gets extra “dragon calling sp”
@@reinasrosesarered I got his e2 and sig lc ,I think welt is alright but yukong isn’t really that good for him in my opinion since her buff doesn’t stay up very long unlike tingyun which means you need to use her skill much more oftan. As for welt I think it usually depend on the set you use for Dan Heng
@@_Bleh_83 Then it matters more about speed tuning with your mono imaginary team or your yukong danny team. I just use my yukong e every other turn as dan heng can still output a grewt amount of dmg
DIL : All SP are Mine. Jingliu: Your lives are mine. Other than looks, Jingliu's mechanic for me is easier... I still don't know how others manage to make DIL spam his skills. But both seems to rely on their Ult to spam their skill. 😅😅😅
generally I use super positive sp supports (luocha pela tingyun) and slow dhil (not on purpose, just shit relics) so the sp can be surplus sometimes. in moc I do have to switch around the supports but most supports are not sp negative anyway (my bronya is e1s1 too), but I think it's mostly because my dhil is too slow so the other allies can generate more sp before his turn. but being too slow he gets hit more often I failed moc 10 because he died lol.
Can anyone explain to me what I'm doing wrong?? I have a E1S1 Jingliu, 3k attack, 216%CD, 33%CR, speed tuned with E1 Bronya, E5 Pela, and Luocha. But I never come even close to dealing 300k to a group of enemies. I've done 150k MAX to a group of enemies debuffed by pela, hit by trotter vulnerability and she has every Bronya buff while in spectral state. I feel regret for pulling her because, even though all the hype, she's just lightly tickling enemies and I have no clue how people are managing to do this much damage.
I'll try to get her to finish moc easier as even if total damage dan heng is higher with optimal build, still jingliu damage isnt low and bad. And have them both is nice and need ice dps bc i already have perfect relic for ice dps but no ice dps i can use... Pela isnt really worth it for dps
comparing 2 characters for a sec and u can see the reasons behind dps bar. She get 50 free crit rate, relatively low sp consumption for a dps, decent base spd and trace spd buff => SUPER easy to gear even for new player with only 2 negative traits (1 u need to maintain her cracked state, can be solved with tingyun, 2 she drains others hp which isn't even that bad considering most people can clear moc with 2~3 turn cycle with decent enough gear). Gear requirement for DHIL is higher, i'd argue his dps scale with gear and with other supports also better.
Question: I've got an E0S1 Dan Heng IL, and i'm using him with a 2-set of both IMG and musketeer relics, since i don't have silver wolf or a well equipped debuffer. Once i get better debuff comps., should i change for a 4-set IMG build?
Welt is the best at imprisoning enemies, so your DanIL can take advantage of 4-set IMG. If you dont have Welt you can just use 2-set IMG + 2-set musketeer or even 4-set musketeer
@@Rodrigo-wo4xwwelt honestly isn’t that great with IL because it’s a dps loss on welts part if he just basic atks to get his ult since IL would be using the SP to use 3EBA I have my IL on the 4pc IMG set at 80/178 and he a beast without welt and IL does a shit ton of weakness break that you really don’t need welt for the full 4pc effect. Not to mention I also run him with yukong and she does good weakness breaking aswell. IMO btw
a kinda weird question but why use pangalactic enterprise on sub-dps welt if he has, like, 16% ehr in total? wouldnt it be better to give him herta or fleet of the ageless at this point?
PS5 player here; i have no clue whats is happening but it looks so cool. Genshin is my first Gacha and im planing to play this today. Should pull for Jingliu?
yes since u really need a good damage dealer to breeze through the content of this game with ease, i recommend complete the entire story to gain trailblazer experience first then focus on gathering resources to build 1 team
@@gardningtools2292yes spend you're fragile resin after you're past level 40/50 (50 is better) and in the meantime try to playthtrough story do the events, SU and so on I recommend going for Jingliu cuz a very a strong dps will carry you early game
Calm down, guys! There's no use fighting over this video. Sure Dan Heng hits hard and Jing Liu is on par. Who cares about that when your personal build sucks and not as game-breaking as those builds from these content creators? Instead of fighting who's better, why not focus on your own builds? 😂
If you're using crit rate body on Lunae then your substats on any cdmg body for the 4 piece must be pretty bad or you don't have one, DHIL literally blows all other dps out the window and she comes in second so rn he's the power ceiling and she's no.2, but there are some misconceptions I'm seeing in the comments so for anybody here this is for you, no support or sustain is so negative, heck I use Bronya without her lc on Lunae, I use him and Bald with two sustains some times, I experiment a lot with him and I've never had any problems consistently doing three turn ults, maybe it's cos I've got his lc but I don't even use Tingyun ti do this, his sp consumption is blown out of proportion just cos some ppl don't wanna admit he's great, imo he's flexible asf if you don't suck at the game
He's not flexible at all. U need chrs in that team that use basically no skill points. He's not f2p friendly at all. U basically need his lc to do anything. His sp consumption is a very important topic cos the fact u need to use 3 sp to do his max dmg is crazy. Jingliu has a little less dmg but she's much more flexible and is generally sp positive
Both are broken main damage dealers, if you look at my DanHIL, he deals worse dmg than Jingliu, that's because I don't use a hypercarry team, also he doesn't use his signature LC and my relic build on him is quite bad. If you already have 2 main damage dealers, you don't need to gacha her, but I have to admit that Jingliu is easier to build, because we can get 50% crit rate just from her talent
If you already have a dps apart from DHIL, there's no point in pulling for her, I mean if you have Blade maybe but it'd be better to save for HuoHuo which is an abundance healer that regens energy instead of pulling another dps
@@victorleo4925 Then sit yo ahh down and save cos you are not fitting her anywhere on that account unless you're going ice weakness that's only weak to ice and resistant to everybody on your Kafka team, and do you really need to have a dps for every element when you have DHIL and Kafka team, highest put some ice character like Pela or Herta to weakness break aoe, save for HuoHuo since she gives energy regen, you could pull Topaz for Kafka's follow up but Guinaifen is all you need since she's Nihility and after HuoHuo you can save for Black Swan since she's a nihility 5 star or Argenti since he's a physical erudition so he can break shields and apply physical dot, great for Kafka plus one sustain and either Black Swan or who you're already using, broken, I'd heavily advise you to skip
For me yes, she is better than Blade. She didn't need Bronya and already destroyed the enemy easily. Meanwhile, I feel like Blade really needs Bronya to maximize his damage
@@YinlinsPuppetthis community is too easy to hit with Fomo All the limited dps all clear around the same average cycles But they’re all scared of power creep
@@nickarooroo6397You should be thinking about Jingliu + Bronya + Hanabi/Sparkle + Huohuo as a team. Hanabi/Sparkle’s leaked kit says her skill allows action advancing just like Bronya, the percentage isn’t known yet but if it’s 100% like Bronya then that would be broken. Sparkle’s ultimate also allows her to generate 4 skill points, however you can get an extra 2 temporary skill points if you exceed the 5 skill point limit. Plus using a skill allows an extra damage boost meaning as soon as Jingliu uses her skill to enter transmigration she would have buffs from Sparkle. She also has a talent which allows allies to do more damage when there is more than 5 skill points. Then we have Huohuo who’s skill and ultimate also give attack percentage buffs, her ultimate also regenerates energy for teammates ultimates. Then Bronya with her redeployment buff and ultimate buff. Most people who have Bronya probably already have her lightcone from buying it so she can also generate skill points occasionally, with E1 then that’s even better. So in conclusion you basically have 3 harmony units (Huohuo basically acts like a harmony), plus 2 of those units are action advancers AND skill point generators meaning Jingliu can have SO MANY turns like Seele PLUS so many buffs. So if Huohuo and Sparkle doesn’t get nerfed, it is possible for Jingliu to be like Seele + DHIL while maintaining skill point positive. I believe if Jingliu were to be replaced by DHIL on this team it would result in either skill point neutral or skill point negative during prolonged boss battles so Jingliu is able to keep 90% uptime while DHIL maybe around 50-60% uptime.
