E119 - Ji Hwan Bae Ejected By Jeremie Rehak After Arguing Strike One Of an At-Bat (배지환 퇴장) 

i’m ASSUMING it’s because henry davis is 6 ft tall which is about bae’s height so it makes sense for them to have a similar sized strike zone

What the hell are you even saying? The computer doesn’t know? The exact numbers are calculated every pitch. It’s called a margin of error because of human error, not that the computer just randomly not accurate. Please be smarter

do you support his domestic assault charges also?

@@4-Avenue Yes

@fallenscsl Absolutely! Compared to what your daddy did to your mom, Bae did nothing.

@@KongKing-jp8tr bae put his wife in critical care and was charged for the assault you idiot. Not to mention real pirates fan wanted him to get dropped from the minor league system and was suspended for 30 games. Seems like you were raised by bad parents that fought a lot to have such knowledge of comparison. Don't be afraid to use google for yourself to read all the about who you worship just cos he's korean and haven't been a bucco's fan to know this for yourself.

I had to look and yikes... month of June, he is at .150. Your SO average should never be higher than your batting average.. he is at 266 SO for this month. But its the umpires doing him wrong, not the fact he has a significantly higher SO average vs actual batting average.

damn that sucks that you said that cuz now he can’t play 😀

yeah but also though that was the THIRD time that happened to him that game :/

@@streypiwon It can be frustrating, maybe it's better to get kicked out during a game you have. big lead, of course one run against my Padres is a big lead

Only to a rat. Would you be ok with umpires showing up players?

@@FactsMatter Considering a few umpires have been guilty of it this season, it does hurt when the shoe's on the other foot. Jerry Layne, Will Little and Hunter Wendelstedt come to mind, but Randy Rosenberg's incident with J.T. Realmuto could have a lasting effect.

@@FactsMatter "only to a rat" don't be like that.. forgive me for thinking it's funny that an umpire is person standing there watching other people attempt to execute a difficult task.

Ideally, you are correct. However, in the real world it doesn't work that way.

You mean 6' 1"?

Ah yes a racist Korean blaming everything on the Japanese

이 영상은 심판이 맞다 하는데요

I think he knew he’s be ejected, he was just pissed off. In a recent slump, not getting any calls regarding strike zone not just in this game but the last 10-15 he’s been called out on really questionable pitches. So that frustration just took over.

he has a temper, he was already suspended for 30 games in the minor league system for violating the pirates domestic abuse policy when he beat his girlfriend or wife near to death and sent her to the critical care unit. Pirates fans even wanted him to get dropped but they covered it up since he is and always will be a nobody, so he dodged the bullet.

Uhh, you may need to get your facts straight in this case. The incident in question was with his ex-gf when he was still a teenager. He never beat her "near to death," nor did he send her to the critical care unit. She did not go to the hospital. Everything was reported after the fact when she posted on her Instagram account. What he did was inexcusable and you never, ever condone something like that, but you also don't exaggerate and try to make the story worse than it is. Bae went back to Korea, cooperated fully with authorities, paid the fine the court levied against him and completed a treatment program once he came back to the states. His teammates and coaches have stated he has been nothing but a positive influence in the clubhouse throughout the minors and majors, so one can hope he's learned from the experience.

@@ray-raylee9397 ah you seem to not understand how korea ignores most womens claims of domestic abuse and think him paying a small fine justified his actions. you may need to check your facts and get it straight in this case... yes they were 19 he did beat her near death as he kicked her down a flight of stairs and even choked her. Not only did she post it on instagram but it was on the athletic, apnews, and korean daily. i'm not exaggerating anything other than reading about how people started to call her a gold digger, said she deserved it cause she cheated on him and got harassed by people that she needed to take sleeping pills from all pain and accusations. you can't sit there and tell me you don't know how the korean law doesn't protect or believe the women in these cases cause there's youtube video's of so many cases of even foreign women that went to korea cos of kpop/kdrama only to end up in a bad relationship with no one that will listen to them. Heck, korean men have the highest infidelity rate among any other asian culture

Yes, I've read all the articles (and follow-ups) in the Athletic, AP, ESPN, Yonhap, Joong-ang Daily, etc. that came out following her initial Instagram post. None of them state there were anywhere near fatal injuries (and these would’ve been very different charges had they been), and none of them also say anything about her being rushed to the ER/critical care unit as she never went to the hospital. The incident happened when they were both 18. I am Korean, so I know full well about how these types of cases are shoved under the rug in the country. It was rare that this was even reported and settled in court, and that's even reflected in the punishment he was given (the fine). There is a huge gap in terms of how these cases are handled in the US vs. a country like Korea, and that's another nuance in this case here. The big win in this situation is that she had the bravery to come forward and press charges, Bae went back and fully cooperated with authorities, and justice was served. In follow-up reporting, it was found Bae gave her additional money, which she then donated to domestic abuse organizations. Also, there are at least steps in the right direction in that Korea's government has already proposed/implemented harsher punishment for domestic abuse/stalking cases (prior to current President Yoon's administration). Again - regardless of the circumstances (e.g., their relationship, accusations of her infidelity, etc.), what he did was wrong, inexcusable and something no one should ever resort to. Never condone, never forget...but the biggest thing is learning from your mistakes, because everyone makes them. And it seems he has when you read what his teammates/coaches/management (and he himself) have/has said about the experience since then.

I strongly disagree. They are an incredible helpful tool to bring new fans into the game, who don't know anything about baseball. What needs to happen is for players, coaches and commentators to have a better understanding of the rules, handling (what will get me/someone ejected) and how the broadcast system operates. But good luck with that, we recently saw how some teams still don't understand RLI. Not the box itself is the problem, but the lack of transparency by the league and the lack of understanding by the teams and personnel.

@@johannesney2132 U have valid points. I just put them in the "I don't know how we got along without them" category.

배지환 싫어함?

Oh bullshit. There are 10 guys every day that are more demonstrative.

But, how were you able to do that?

writing*

PEPEGA

never ever move your arms! your armpits stink sooo bad to Korean. huh amerifat?

dude already got suspended for 30 games in the minors for putting his girlfriend or wife in the hospital, so i'm not surprised he reacted like this I was expecting bae to do more since he can't treat people he loves right neither...

I spent a year at Osan. I'll never get over the "aroma" of kimchee breath.

How it’s determined in the computer or in real life practice?

​@josephgravina9834 both. I'd like to hear how umps make adjustments to view points for player height and how that may affect accuracy. Going from a crouched 5'8" to an uncrouched 6'8" batter for example

@@philricke8372 the computer is calculated on batter’s measured height (regardless of how their stance changes things). Umpires are supposed to take the perspective of the batter as the start to address the pitch. Think of that as the point that their initial stride to the ball has just hit the ground and their hips have just begun turning (bat has barely moved). Umpires do adjust based on observations of the ball as it passes by the batter. However I find it easier to adjust the high pitch on taller hitter’s rather than the low pitch. Since you are looking “down” at the ball, height is harder the judge… often the way the catcher receives a lower pitch will influence the umpire more than actual relative height

@@josephgravina9834 both

Wow, an entire inch!

Your ignorance is showing.

He’s an umpire skippy; not a ref. You are ignorant

He's a rookie and you can't argue balls and strikes. Ump was clearly having a bad game so he gave him the hook

it’s more because he “drew a line” with his hands, you never ever show an umpire where the pitch was unless you wanna get ejected

@@bc5852maybe he was trying to be helpful since it appeared the umpire needed help knowing where the ball was judging by his strike calls.

@@VidaVbullshit. Little shit disrespectful of a MLB umpire as a rookie. It’s an automatic ejection. You don’t know the game.

@@perioindigo4477 wrong, but thanks for playing. The MLB umpire did exactly what he has been trained to do by his employer, MLB. Bae was ejected from the game because he disrespected authority. You are ignorant

How about no reaction? Especially as a rookie.

Why does being a rookie matter? All players should be able to voice their displeasure equally. Unwritten rules of baseball are often dumb and outdated

he did that the first TWO times then this happened :/

@@gabyjohn4456 There was a reason though. That point was consider an action intended to ridicule, which is a standard for removal. Plus he was arguing prior calls as well, which is another standard for removal.

What I find interesting is that players and managers aren't screaming for the robots to come in. I believe that this is because the teams think that at the moment they have a better chance of 'gaming' the existing system to their benefit. I.e. pressuring officials to make calls that go their way.

The top of the knees and the bottom of the letters is not the strike zone.

You explained why we shouldn't have robot umps.

What is needed is a sense of accountability for the umpires. with the current rules in place there is effectively zero accountability for egregious or repeatedly missed calls. this needs to change, not just for the sake of the MLB, but for all of professional baseball. as it stands now there is very very little chance of any umpire from the minor leagues advancing to the majors, since the only way in is when an MLB umpire retires. with very little chance of advancement there is also very little incentive for umpires to pursue a career for any length of time. implementing a robo stike/ball system will fix (mostly) the issues with blown calls, however that will just make it even more difficult for up and coming umpires to make it to the major league, and also embolden any "rouge" umpires to continue their suspect behavior (i think we can ALL name those individuals).

The text there is in green, so that implies the umpire called the pitch correctly; the wording there is incorrect when stating “expected call strike” - the pit he was called a ball and that is what was expected. Good catch.

Bullshit. Everyone saw the gesture.

I found the Pirates fan…

@@1969ETypeNo, he’s just an umpire basher who claims to have umpire’s wool

@@rickhaavisto9023 Atleast I’m not a brown-noser can’t criticize umpires. I only make comments on umpires who make the profession look bad. Good umpires will critique each other during the game between innings and after the game. Just because they’re MLB umpires doesn’t mean that everything they do is perfect.

@@DJTexan No, you criticize every umpire for not handling things as they used to “back in my day”. Literally. Every ejection is complaining about how things are now compared to how they used to be. There’s a difference between constructive criticism and what you are doing, which appears to be, posting whenever someone doesn’t fit the mold of the perfect 1980s umpire

It doesn't matter. The whiners will still continue to whine because they have no life.

This is why we're not seeing Robo Umps at this point. This video proves it. It will have to be individual zones because not everyone is the same, and as you can see, they have a hard time getting the box right, especially at the top of the zone.

Didn't stop them from arguing in the Atlantic League.

The margin of error “correctness” isn’t just to give the umpires wiggle room, it’s because that’s how accurate the machine is. When they expected “ball” but give him a correct call on a strike, it’s because it could very well have been a strike and the machine miscalculated the pitch location. When the machine isn’t even sure it’s too close to bitch like that and way too close for you to say he “blew it”

I did 😂

일단 한 명 여기 있습니다.

It's not just that we're angry because we're Korean and Bae Ji-hwan was sent off. It is angry because incompetent and malicious referees ruin the game and the Major League itself. We love fair play and sportsmanship as like other people.

…and a rookie disputing judgement gets zero slack. All of that together explains the quick hook. Honestly, maybe if we start handing out quick hooks to everyone, the number of hooks go down? Probably not, but a boy can dream…

This is why baseball umpires are so soft. This is the equivalent of an nfl official ejecting a receiver for showing where a DB grabbed his jersey. Come on. Ridiculous ejection if it’s for that only

@@uwsbus So, how much abuse should an umpire have to take about their judgement before they eject a player? Seriously…how much abuse? Anything short of profanity? Two profanities? Four? If an umpire takes everything from players and coaches and doesn’t eject anyone, do you come on here and call them hard? What an umpire permits, they promote. No umpire ever drives home from a game and thinks, “Man, I shouldn’t have thrown that guy out…” Eject early and often!

@@1969EType I can tell you that slightly pointing to the location of the pitch is not “abuse” in itself. Again I don’t know what he said so I’ll give Rehak the benefit of the doubt on that but no way a slight hand gesture pointing down warrants an ejection if that’s the rationale for it.

@@uwsbus Drawing in the dirt would be an immediate ejection. We know he was saying something and the gesture was a cherry on top not the sum of the ejection. Rookies are going to rookie until they learn. Now he knows…

This is how it works for MLB - *In Major League Baseball, the top of the strike zone is the midpoint between the top of the batter's shoulders and the top of the uniform pants, and the bottom of the strike zone is at the hollow beneath the kneecap, both determined from the batter's stance as the batter is prepared to swing at the pitched ball.* Generally it's the middle of your knees and the middle of your torso

The top is supposed to be a the midline between the shoulders and waist and the bottom is the hollow of the knee and is determined when the batter takes a stance in preparation to swing at a pitched ball. If you remember that little bit of video concerning that kid at the Little League World Series, his strike zone will be determined by that stance only if he uses that stance to swing at a pitched ball.

The strike zone sits 18 inches off the plate and is 20 inches wide by 26 inches tall, with a depth being the exact same as home plate. It’s a fixed position. What’s happening here, and Pittsburgh isn’t the only club doing this, is the home broadcast is blatantly shrinking the strike zone when the home team is up to bat and bloating it when it’s the visiting team’s turn. What the home team is attempting to do is cause the computer to falsely report an error against the home plate umpire and, in turn, hope that causes the umpire to be graded poorly. However, MLB knows this and uses a completely different program to grade the umpires. Considering that MLB’s system uses CCTV & radar to measure pitches, you can easily tell when the graphical zone is being manipulated compared to the numbers that the MLB uses from their analytics.

It really depends on the height of the batter, it used to be top of the knees to just below the armpit but it might've changed by now

@@notarealname6347 Where in the hell do you get those measurements from? Your ass?

Yes, Marcano, who's also a left-handed batter and plays almost identical positions to Bae.

Oh man…it happens so frequently, I didn’t even notice it wasn’t said until you mentioned it! This is the first one in quite some time with no Mario coin! Good catch!

If players watched this channel, they'd be a lot more informed. Same with broadcasters and coaches.

they don't care and they think its where catchers cathes the ball that where pitch was

This is a joke, right?

Dude they’re not arguing live in the game cuz it was not in the TV box… lol they have no idea what the tv box says as they’re not watching the game on Tv.

Are you a clown? Cause that’s the funniest thing I’ve ever read. Seriously? You really think you can show them up? It’s in the rules, you don’t show up the umpire or you see the showers. They are the authority on the field, balls and strikes are the biggest thing you don’t argue. Give me a break.

You don’t know the game little boy.

@rayray4192 Rayray ??and you call me a little boy. Go to bed grown ups talking

Not to mention after seeing who the umpire was this guys zone is whack