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I wouldn’t mind ads as long as they actually thought about the placement for example in need for speed unbound they could turn some of the billboards into video billboard that plays ads while your near them
@@damedrops8197 honestly, if it was the first time a company had tried such a thing "i'm not buying that game"/"I will not be buying any more games from you if you do not reverse this/commit to not doing it again (because contracts)" works fine, they might get the message. If they have a Track record of this nonsense, well, then you just stop buying anything with their name on it. Honestly, at this point you're more likely to have a good experience buying from a publisher that you've never heard of than an 'established' and 'trusted' brand.
Remember the days when you just pop in a f*cking cartridge and you just sit back with just you and the controller and the game and just play? No interruptions except your dad telling you to throw away the trash or your mom yelling at you that dinner was ready. Douchebag companies nowadays make me sick.
this and the fact that the new triple A games are all naff anyway. I'm not really in any danger of even wanting to buy one, let alone actually doing so. Luckily there are all the old games which will keep me occupied until the games industry gets its act back together.
They won't stop, the majority of people who buy EA games are the sports crowd who are to stupid to know they are being taken advantage of. It's why they are so profitable with it because of that specific consumer bases dumbassery
Games really don't need to cost $70, they just determined that is the price the market will bear. Heck, there are freeware games with no ads and no monetization made by hobbyists because its an art to them and not a business.
Ads in AAA games will be the final nail in the coffin for an industry that has turned to shit ever since mobile gaming revenue surpassed console and PC combined
Seriously this! The game better be free if I am forced to watch ads, and interrupt my games. Even then, I still won't play it because I hate advertisements.
Ubisoft: Stealing games like 'The Crew' Microsoft: Shutting Down Studios Sony: Mass Region-locking people from game purchases. EA: More greed with in-game ads on top of 70$ games. This next gaming crash needs to happen right now.
The AAA crash will come, don't worry. But the Indie space, and the now re-growing AA space is still loaded with stuff that's worth playing. :P The more we vote with our wallets for the fun games that respect the customers, and against the AAA vultures that only care about infinite growth, the sooner they'll crash or at least have no choice but to reform if they wanna live.
Embracer Group: Giving people false hope of reviving beloved franchises only to shut down 2 days before Christmas because "muh empire why can't I hold all these games!"
They have to know that people hate ads. They're already everywhere. You can't watch or read anything online without seeing an ad. Not to mention the ads on the streets, on the radio, on the TV... People are sick of it. And now they're proposing in-game ads with complete chillness. At this point, I think it's pure trolling.
Remember that Futurama scene where Fry gets an ad for underwear in his dreams? Back then it was comedy, a funny joke to laugh at. Now I'm terrified that will actually happen eventually.
And thats why since 2004 I have been acquiring my music and never ever streaming it. All my music is on 2 back up hard drives and its always physically put on my phone with my laptop. I will never pay for streaming.
It's not trolling. They're just out of touch yuppies. Just like you wanna spend the hours of your day looking at the screen and that screen has a video game on, they wanna spend the hours of their days looking at the screen... and that screen has numbers on it. They have no idea what is happening in the real world, they probably don't even know the real world exists anymore. All that matters is projections. They're gonna push for whichever dumbest thing there is that might make the numbers go bigger. Just like he said in the video - remember, these games aren't made for gamers. These games are made for investors. They're not meant to be played. They're meant to be exploited for profit.
@@scourgex1479I know Ubisoft is turning this year, but EA has tenure. YEARS of screwing over players in one way or another, they sit on top of this mountain of shit.
Then why in the hell are they one of the largest corporations in the space? Why do people still buy their shitty madden, fifa and battlefield games year after year when they’ve either stagnated or weren’t ever really good in the first place? EA should have been gone a decade ago, they’ve mostly always been awful. Now they are bigger than ever. But people have their habits, I suppose 🙄
I'm pretty sure I've seen an actual scientific study about how we as modern humans have developed an instinct to avoid advertisements thanks to its spread. Even if it's some sort of joke, I don't think it's any farther from the truth with these types of companies doubling down on ads.
Anytime an ad pops up and it's longer than acceptable Either// relaunch the Video or literally look and do anything else in another room if i need to. // anyhow, thank you Brother, i must read into this now. >> instincts are a Mystical magical thing haha
I’m not gonna say it’s the worst timeline, but we’re in the running. “I have no expectations and I’m still disappointed” But, yeah, plug-and-play was the best. I even had fun with the very early DLCs, but things got out of hand.
There's thousands of games that still meet what you said. A game, just a game with no BS, but when people keep buying cod, fifa, NFL every Yr and not these games, they tend to become the norm
EA you are NOT a free streaming service! We pay you money for product, you give finished product. People NEED to stop buying these stupid games that the company is known for pushing for over a DECADE!
@@IslamistSocialist371 game prices and such have nothing to do with game production costs. it's an entertainment product with no duplication costs. the 70 bucks is just a made up number. it's entirely possible they would make more money selling for 35usd or for 140usd, because the number itself affects how many people will buy the game - nobody actually has to buy them either. i can't remember the last ea game I played though. maybe sw bg on game pass.
Yeah, but they don't gives us finished products, that's the problem. EA is so lazy, they'd rather put ads and microtransactions than make an actually good game.
I guess this is the next step for major companies trying to raise their infinite growth, because share holders are not happy with decline. This is why I rarely purchase AAA games anymore, because I'm sick and tired of giving money to these people who probably don't even know what the company that they're investing is actually selling.
@jordick8427 it’s like the life cycle of a star. It’s born as a miracle, it grows to be unbearable and it dies in a catastrophe- but all in all it’s inevitable
Want to squash the immersion in your video game? Put an ad in there and POOF! Right back into that real world you were trying to have an escapist experience from...
Allowing the gaming industry to become an investment opportunity for the rich has become a cancer in the industry that has already begun to metastasise
The problem is capitalism, not just video games. The bigger the company, the more evil it is because Capitalism is essentially "survival of the most evil". A company that isn't willing to do evil business practices will be outcompeted by those that will because evil is often profitable.
@@GoldenSun3DS go away communist you disgusting lot had your chances for "true communism" and it ALWAYS ends in a mountain of corpses of all the people who dared to disagree with you lot.
The Investment Economy is the real issue. We should never have let people make "trading money around so that other people can turn that money into even more money" be something that people could do for a living. A very WEALTHY living. And we should never have let money become so powerful and influential in our elections. Because it lets corporations essentially buy the law.
Lol, I'm not just putting it down, I'm getting a refund and scoring it as low as possible. If they refuse a refund, I am disputing the charge. I am NOT paying for something with ads in it, to hell with that nonsense. Anyone pushing for that on the publisher side needs to be ousted.
Video games are an art form, you don't put a nike shirt on the mona lisa. This would ruin every game forever, games you want to keep playing over your lifetime, if it's offline it will always have those ads forever, the next mass effect or dragon age will always have ads for products that will probably be gone a few years later, and if it's online... then it's just going to add more online requirements to games that don't need them, every single player game will require an internet connection to check for ads. No... absolutely fucking not, I'm avoiding these games.
We've gone so far off the rails that the parodies surrounding EA games having ads are no longer going to be parodies but actual foresight into what was coming
They recently banned a player from their EA account causing them to lose every game they paid for. The reason? They used a nsfw mod for The Sims 4...a single player game.
@@punishthemeatpocketas much as I would love this, a multi billion corporation will have an army of lawyers and their ToS will make sure they’re near bullet proof
Next CoD will go down like this... Your character and his squad is sitting in a helicopter waiting to be dropped off to complete a mission, with your commanding officer/handler giving you the rundown of the plan and your orders. Then before he finished he goes, "Alright now let's talk about Raid: Shadow Legends!"
I know right. It isn't good enough that we're already paying $80-$100+ for games nowadays. They want to piss us off even more by including in-game ads. Among other greedy schemes. This is why I spend less on gaming lately.
I stoped watching TV cause there is only trash and you are forced to watch 10-15min of ad's every 15-30 min. Ad's ruind TV. People use ad blocker to escape the escalating ad situation on RU-vid. And now EA want's to use "thought full" ad placement to increase profit. Yeah i see no issue here, that will definitly not backfire by people bringing mod's out to remove or block ad's or even just stop buying games from EA comletly. If i play a game i don't want see ad's that temt me to buy some shit i don't need anyway's. I don't mind ingame ad's for fictional ingame products. But i don't want to see anything from Coca Cola, Tesla, Sony, Microsoft or any other company. I rather stop playing videogame's or start learning to make my own than buying shit like that. Videogames once where about having fun, now they're about making infinite profit. I wish that CEO's that making desicions like that need to watch a real life pop up for 1 min befor they enter they're privat jet or stuff like that to see how much fun "thoughtfull" ad's are...
ads in loading screens between levels, smart ads in start menus, 5s ad during game launch asking you if you want to go see the full offer or play the game now.
I miss the days where when you bought a game you owned it. No DLC, no battlepasses, no in-game ads, no delisting/deleting the game when support ends for the game or system...
Player: "Ooh a perfect opportunity for headsho..." FULLSCREEN AD: "THIS GAME IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY JOLT COLA, THE FUEL OF TRUE GAMERS!" Player: FFFFUUUU....
“More than 50% of our development processes will be positively impacted” in regards to ai translates to “we’re hoping to get away with laying off at least 50% of our remaining employees”
"Look over there! To the other side of the river, Grey Warden ser! Our patrol being ambushed by a rabid pack of darkspawn, but the raging river destroyed the bridge, how could we possibly get there in time, to save our comrades?!" * Morrigan barges into the scene and gives everyone a bottle." "Take these!" * The Grey Warden confusingly looks at Morrigan." "What are these?" * Morrigan takes a big sip and looks into the camera with a sly smile as she sprouts wings.* "It's Red Bull. It gives you wings."
Capcom already tried this in Street Fighter V, it was a disaster. There's no such a thing as "thoughtful" ads after paying the full, AAA price tag. If you want to put in ads, make the game free 2 play, stop it with the shameless double dip.
I think the only way id ever tolerate this would be when its organic and you dont even realize its a legit ad. Like in the old need for speed games seeing a mountain dew ad on a billboard on the highway. Anything beyond that would just be intrusive and shitty.
"...For an hour, then you watch another ad for another hour, or pay for this live ser- I mean, subscription - that will cost you far more than any number of our games you could have bought."
Man, remember when ads in video games consisted of diegetic in universe billboards? That's probably still bad but at least you wouldn't think about if you were going fast.
The best example of IRL ads implemented well in video games were the treasures in Pikmin 2 where the treasures felt like they belonged in the Pikmin world and the characters tried to make sense of them, which was in character.
Given ads being put in smart tvs, microsoft xbox forcing home screen to have ads, windows having ads, and the way AAA erode things like micro transactions, I don’t think this is just an EA thing, Unless something drastically changes I think all the big games companies will do this in the near future.
The problem is not an ad lasts 30 seconds or 5, or that it can't be skipped. The problem is there are ads in a product that should not contain ads at all. At fucking all!
We're already being bombarded with ads in all sorts of mobile apps and F2P games as it is.... Also, imagine what might happen when an unskippable ad fails to load....
Mobile game monetization only works cause the Asian market keeps it alive. Their Mobile devices are essentially their consoles. It's never going to work on markets outside and EA doesn't understand that. It works in Asia cause it was specifically made for that region and their situation, its never going to work in other places.
The only time in-game ads have ever been barely tolerable was in Need for Speed Underground 2 when Campbell’s advertised Chicken Cup a Soup on the billboards as you drove around.
Cyberpunk had fantastic ads in it. Same with Helldivers 2. The difference is those games used advertising to better immerse you in the world, instead of being a jarring yank back to reality to attempt to get you to buy things.
@@futuza Agreed. The most egregious counterexample I can think of is the freaking Cup Noodle quest in FF15. Also the Coleman camping equipment in a game whose mechanics actively discouraged camping.
@@blakehooper1787 Funny personal thing about that cup noodle quest; I thought when I played it was one huge joke from the devs who really loved ramen and made a whole parody quest about it; I enjoyed it for how silly it was with how much the crew loved it. Man, did all that wash away the instant I found out it was a real product ad. Didn't help the name is so hilariously bland, the ad completely failed and I completely mistook it and stopped enjoying it when someone else told me years later what that was about.
yeah, when a games setting is real life, and they have some billboards or product placement i dont really care, because it doesn’t really break my immersion. but ads for random products during loading screens is where i draw the line.
The traditional video game industry is wanting to adopt the practices the mobile & gacha games all while keeping the upfront payment in the name of 'shareholder value' EA: Come buy our $70 base game with ads & gacha to unlock characters! It's better than Genshin!
Why not both? EA will only change its tune if their stock price drops. And if top brands won't advertise, you'll just get all the trash companies doing it instead. Though, honestly, given where EA makes a lot of its money, probably the most effective place to aim your disdain and anger is at the holder of the license. If the NFL, FIFA, UFC, and so on tell EA, "None of this in the game using our license", then that'll wind up something in the contract.
What annoys me most is, youtubers, mobile games, free games, all include Ad's because the content is free, these are full price games it's not like the Ad's are making the games cheaper for us there's literally no benifits to the consumer
As long as the ads do not interrupt the game in any way, who cares. If the ads start being like RU-vid and interrupt a music video I'm watching. I will not be buying the game.
Disruptive ads are 100% unacceptable. Only things I can live with is „immersive ads“ that fit into the game world. If you have real-life ads in football (soccer) I‘m fine if EAFC has the same ads on ingame bilboards. Anything that breaks the immersion is an instant dealbreaker. A SW: Jedi game cannot have any real-life ads in it
Can't wait for the Dead Space 2 remake where Issac, after a difficult fight against the necromorphs that he barely survives, looks directly at the camera and says "Man, I need a Pepsi."
If they want to replace existing in game world ads with real life ads that's fine imo; like replace the billboards in GTA or CP2077 with real life ads. I draw the line at that though, I can't think of any other reasonable way to include ads, if they try to turn AAA gaming into a mobile free-to-play I'm just done.
Here’s my thing, and maybe they haven’t been making this clear, is it just like sideline and titantron sponsorships? Or are they actually gonna make you sit through ads before you can play FIFA? Like they need to be more straightforward with this, because by deflecting, everyone will automatically assume the worst
Nah Ubisoft needs to be on that list, taking games you owned off the map/out of existence is just bad. Also toss Activision blizzard on there for having overwatch 2 being one of the WORST games in history
Have we already forgotten why Microsoft did away with the blades UI on the 360? It was to put ads on the home screen. EA and MS both are terrible about this...
They'll do this incrementally by putting ads in on loading screens, then slowly work up until ads are playing while you're playing the game. Then they'll add in the "fix" which is a subscription to avoid ads in gameplay. It is an incredible malicious tactic and regulation needs to be procured to prevent this from happening. Essentially, they want to make games look like youtube/facebook/twitter etc.
Regulation does nothing when the game companies know how to beat it :/. The only way to not deal with it is older games/new hobbies at this point. Or making your own game and hitting the indie space. As long as AAA does this, then they will get more and more desperate until they implode
@monkeyfan250 when you mean by "regulation does nothing" you merely mean "it doesnt mean anything if its not enforced". Regulations are responsible for a myriad of things so I do not understand why you make such a statement.
@@CascadeGamer I should have said that it won't make a dent into big tech because of the amount of freedom it has in the American market. Outside of America though regulations have worked.
@@CascadeGamer Back in the lootbox era, this "regulation" (ESRB and the likes) tackled the issue of underage online gambling by requiring games to put an ESRB sticker that said "online purchases" in it, patting themselves collectively on the backs for keeping everyone informed. No further restrictions were made. That's how they regulate games. Don't wait for authorities to intervene: educate people who pay for that shit and convince them to stop supporting their own abuse with their money...
I played Pole Position in the arcades and it had ads for Marlboro. It cost 25 cents a play. We didn’t have a problem paying for a game with ads in it. Nice of you to bring this up 40 plus years later.
EA cannot pay me enough to play one of their games with included ad's... literally. I don't do 'ads', don't have commercial tv, don't watch ads in online content... i don't do ads period. For some people they may be willing to play games with ads if the games were discounted from comparable non-ad infested games.... but in my case the discount required for me to play a game with ads in it means they'd be paying me real money to play it... and they'd have to pay A LOT.
There's actually a really good documentary on Andrew Wilson's rise called "The Untold History of EA's Long (and Rich) Pay-2-Win Love Affair" by Skill Up, definitely worth watching. EDIT: Why would any game dev want to promote Snowfall? It's a show about crack cocaine.
Because they NEED to play StarWars, or they NEED to play FIFA, or they NEED to play this new game that's been hyped up on social media... or it's "OMG have you seen the super-realistic graphics in the trailer?! I can see the player's ass jiggle as he prances on the playing field! I have to buy it! It's gonna be rad!" Rinse and repeat...
This is actually not a new thing, In Need For Speed Carbon back in 2006, there were ads of real life stuff, like Billboards for the new Mazda MX-5 (which wasn't even a car you could get in the game) I think when it makes sense for the game's world, and its not invasive, I don't mind them. But yeah, running ad-videos as "loading-screens" that's a huge NOPE
remember that futurama bit where an eyephone was able to put ads in your dreams? i feel like that's not too far from reality. if corporations could do that, they would.
Everybody needs to teach their kids about this shit, because that's the target demographic for shady monetization. They're preparing the kids for a future where it's okay that all our games are gambling sims.
