EA wasted 125 million on this game 

Lol it seemed it was showcased a bit in my perspective

Maybe you're not as much a gamer as you thought, but more a RU-vid influencer puppet?

​@@SirFancyKnickersby this point in time we know that influencer marketing works somewhat well, if they did a decent job at marketing they would have had the influencers playing the game. It's a weird parasocial version of word of mouth marketing, which is very successful.

@@SirFancyKnickers The internet is a bunch of echo chambers and influencer marketing is the best way to get to as many people as possible. The only way to not be reached by them is to touch grass.

​@@SirFancyKnickersWhat influencer told you that it actually did quite well? Because that's obviously who you are the puppet for. 😂

Seems like money laundering, does anyone even have any examples of adverts for this game.

I thought exactly the same, maybe they only marketed it to non gamers in CA via twitter, as it ticks all the boxes

@@jonny5alive123 It had tons of streamers playing it on launch as its market, which works for sandbox games that you can watch someone and then play and have a completely different experience. Not so much for generic corridor shooters. Then when the sponsored times ended, the twitch viewership few to the dozens.

Mr. Beast had a video sponsored by this game.

Should have spent it on not making the game shit

Does it really??

With a name so thoroughly unmemorable I had to Google it twice during a conversation once, and that EA did nothing to market as a single player game at a time where people could, understandably, look at a game like this and go "Oh, they're trying to do some sort of Destiny clone. Pass."

@@robm9231 Yup. Intel 12700 or AMD 5700X, 3080 ti/6800XT, 16GB of RAM (Surprised they don't want 32) and then there's a spot in the steam requirements that says additional notes and that says, verbatim; These specs allow for the game to be played in 1440p/30fps.

if 12gigs of vram was recomended , thats 16% of all PC players worldwide , steam hardware survey is great but a lot games who are comming out or being made , are for PCs almost noone has , i had hopes after far cry primal that trend would die out , but apparently not.

I saw a trailer for it at one of the events, thought it looked kind of cool, and then never thought about it again until now.

That's too brief of an explanation. Different genres, could have sold better later on if just the timing were poor. It's more likely there was never much an interest in the concept, as in a shooter game with blindingly bright magic. Apparently the writing wasn't spectacular either - which is a problem in a pure singleplayer game.

It received essentially zero marketing, too.

I never heard of this game until this week

I still don't know lol😊

Horizon Zero Dawn and Horizon Forbidden West got it worse by being released a mere days next to Breath of the Wild and Elden Ring, two of the few games that get a claim to casting a bigger shadow than Baldur's Gate 3, and it still managed to get a franchise.

Kernel level "Anti cheat" rootkit AND EA launcher for a single player game that requires a 700€+ gpu to run at 30fps.

They sound like the US govt

if i did hear of it it fell right back out of my consciousness

Same. THIS is the first I ever HEAR of it.

I did. Then I forgot what it was called

Im convinced this is some convoluted marketing scheme for the game

Yeah it literally looks like DOOM but with magic instead of guns

I genuinely thought it was a Destiny clone. First I heard of it being a single player only title. If they had stressed this in the marketing I might have actually given it a look ironically.

​@@slxxpyhollowwhich ngl is a fun idea imo. We got tons of regular shooters this sounded fresh. But they treated it just like another shooter...this probably would have done well...back in 2009

That certainly is a problem. It doesn't look bad, but it doesn't look that good either. Nothing in the trailers looks like it justifies the huge expense. All the flashy graphics don't mean anything if the game doesn't look fun.

It was just shit marketing. Like literally I never heard of it and I frequent a lot of the normal pc gaming sites, twitch etc. No youtube sponsoring either. EA is so used to just push the same generic crap every time that they have no idea how to market a new IP.

Probably to rip off the studio as I suspect any money from sales would get paid to EA first to cover that for publishing it. I bet they didnt speand 1 dime on it and the money just vanished into EA's secret bank account but could still be written off as a tax loss.

Nah, the advertisement for it was everywhere. For example all over the Armored Core 6 wiki. It’s just… kinda bad advertisement? It looked like either some kinda new mobile game or some kinda new MMO, and neither of that attracts the kind of players who’d buy a full price single player fantasy shooter of a new IP.

40 millions can buy you a LOT of cocaine...

Most of the big gaming channels talked about this game did previews etc.

@@blokin5039 which ones??? I have not seen a single youtube video pop up on this at the time.

I think that's majority of their budget went, they spent more on venues than on the advertisement itself. It was showcased on Game Awards, so I'm very sure that a chunk of the budget went into those kinds of venues lol And to say, the ads were pretty dog

lulz. I look at the Steam game awards web page. I don't watch ceremonies where people blather on and on. Just list the nominated and the winners. Boom. Done in 2 minutes. And from what I've heard, the ceremonies are just a massive ad-spam run now. So I declare myself: You're Winner! (go watch a review of Big Rigs Over the Road Racing if you don't get this joke) Seriously: if you want me to know about your new game, you might try putting it on RU-vid, Twitch, or Kick. I'm tired of cereal and fast food ads.

@@fishcatto794 Agree on this. I don't know anyone that goes to any of those things, nor watches them.

Yeah, indeed. Good products almost don't need marketing (Palworld); bad products don't succeed even if you market them (this game).

@@Zantonny I actually went to TGA and completely forgot it was shown there. It was just genuinely forgettable.

Metal Gear Rising Revengeance looking at this comment :

😅😂

I don't feel bad for the team OR the company. Stop putting codemonkeys and "artists" on a pedestal. They can easily suck too.

​@@MrArgus11111 It's not a pedestal, it's called empathy. If I sunk hours into a project that I was proud of and it failed just because people see games from a specific publisher and immediately get it confused with the usual live service shit they make, id be crushed.

​@@novelezra na they had all the funding they could want, even if the advertising went south, if the game was good, it wouldn't matter, they blew a golden opportunity, not because of EA's baggage, but because they made a trash game

@@alexnorth2452 have you played it?

The worst decision they took was setting its release date in the same month as Baldur's Gate III and in the same week as Armored Core VI. The game had no chance to compete at all.

I get so excited when I hear them 😂 My cat hates when I talk on the phone because she knows I'm talking to someone who isn't her, she starts meowing her face off and pecking at my legs haha. I'm guessing it's why his starts yelling.

I get super happy when I hear the kitties

@@deathsheadcashewMy cat does these same things. I was just trying to clean my teeth two days ago, & our 3-year old wouldn’t let me; for him walking back-&-for on the edge of the counter, rubbing me, then head butting me, jumping down into the sink to bat at the stream of faucet water (TOTALLY getting in my way)…just a quick, recent example, off the top of my head is all. Lol! So, it’s NOT just our cat. (He’s only our second cat ever, & I just turned 42. My sister was allergic, when I was a kid; & my parents both hated cats. Anyway…our first cat only made it to 6-years old sadly. He was a rescue. But, we didn’t know that a cat’s immunization shots can actually create inoperable tumors. Had no idea! So, our new cat..? No shots. Not doing it. Can’t go through that again. What our first cat went through was horrifying. So, just a word to any cat owners, who may not know. Their own shits fan kill them… Anyway…the point of that was just that we haven’t been “Cat People” for all that long really. Still leaning these very fascinating & intriguing creatures. Never knew days could be so CLINGY, when they run from house guests. lol! Since we never had any growing up, my only experiences were other people’s cats. So, I rarely got close to any. This guy is all OVER me, & HATES to be alone)

Mayem Kitties

@@deathsheadcashew My cat was chilling out earlier and meowed at me because I was not paying attention to her

No dumbell, gamers want MTX to not spend life on game

@@cibularas3485 They want to pay not to play the games they bought? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? "Spending their life playing the game when they don't want to" sounds like a design error, not a gap in the market for selling XP boosters.

Id be more tore up over this if i had bought anything made by EA in the past 5 years. Seriously they just havent been able to make a single game worth anyones time since battlefield 4

Star Wards Jedi Survivor got the better of it because it is Star Wars, and people connected 1 to 2 and saw that it was a souls-like type of game too. Brand new IPs need a lot of proper advertisement to show what it really is, besides, the 40 million $ of marketing was spent in venues like Game Awards, not on the advertisment quality itself

They'll learn the lessons they intended to learn. We have to just accept that big companies are quickly losing the ability to make good games. Budgets are ballooning, development cycles are somehow full of both horrifying crunch and massive delays, marketing is somehow 1/3 to 1/2 of the whole ass budget yet tuned in gamers manage to barely hear about the games until after they release and flop. Its the same trend that we see in other entertainment industries like TV and movies. Everything is more expensive, more grand, more visually groundbreaking, but the actual quality of the product continues to plummet. Existing IPs are the only things that work anymore because audiences will flock to them full of nostalgia and hope no matter how times they're disappointed, just for the chance to glimpse something of the magic they once felt when industries gave a shit about quality.

“Claims to hate” Yeah with like 80% of live action games dead or dying, we must just *claim* to hate it. 🤷 Arsehats wrote that, promise you.

What people dont understand is that people in the gaming circle hate live services But not everyone is a gamer Most people dont give a shit about always online and stuff and why should they? Gaming is not their hobby Its the kind of people that if you bring up a renowed classic like final fantasy 7 they will have no idea what you are talking about Not saying this is bad its just the way things are not everyone is a dedicated gamer and this is fine

"This lameduck game that no one cares about with that DEI black chick in it didn't sell, clearly this is because gamers actually LOVE micro transaction multiplayer only asset flip slop" uh huh. Game journalists for you.

90% of single player games flop​@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access

if they spent it on cocaine they might have had some better ideas

When i worked at a call center i had a guy say “sorry my cat gets jealous when I’m on the phone”

His fee lion... sorry I'll get my coat.

Only measured by people playing Steam dummy.

Execs bank accounts.

The Game Awards 2022, State of Play May 2023, Summer Games Fest 2023, RU-vid ads, Fandom ads, hands-on previews for channels like jackfrags and Skill Up, reviews from every major reviewer and outlet. Why is everyone acting like this game wasn't marketed? xD

@@rioplatsIt has the most forgettable name of all time

@@corvus8638 Definitely true. Generic looking gameplay and dreadful name meant it was very forgettable. But that doesn't mean it wasn't marketed, lol.

@@rioplats I think you’re missing my point. If nobody can remember the name of your game, they’re not going to remember the marketing.

People with money in certain positions tend to not have common sense. You'd think that starting small would be a default way of operating for these big companies that want to try out a new title.

It was at three of the biggest gaming showcases consecutively - The Game Awards 2022, State of Play May 2023, and Summer Games Fest 2023. I'm sure if you look through your notes for those events, you'll have written something down about this game. I just think the gameplay looked so generic and the name was so bad that no one paid any attention to it and it soon slipped out of our minds.

With it being your job, you and Kira really dropped the ball if you never heard of this title. It was reviewed by big channels like IGN, Skill Up, and ACG.

They might have been able to get some popularity if they hammed up their gimmick in the game. It is literally magic finger-guns and i am sure there is some potential to get attention.

Agreed. It was the big talk about how developers were warning about vram limitations as well as one of the first UE5 titles.@@rePAULsion

I actually have a correction to make - given today's standards, I'd say the story was quite good. Plot twists. Not a great deal of predictability. Characters had a backstory to it, it felt like an actual universe, lorewise.

No not really

Titanfall is in my opinion too generic and close to home. Immortals of Aveum is exactly the kind of shooter I've wanted for a long time. Not to mention it's a fresh take on the fantasy genre, which is almost always the same old medieval sword and sorcery with knights and castles.

@@Aewon84ok.. you and like maybe 5 other people. Hence why they are saying it was a mistake. The point is not that theres no market for games like this, but more so the fact that spending 125million on a game that flops is a very bad thing for a business. 125mil on tf3 would have at the very least landed them even. But also with apex kinda struggling currently a new titanfall game might get people excited and it would do really well.

@@Aewon84And Titans of Aluminum or whatever was a commercial flop.

​@@Aewon84 Which part of Titanfall is generic? Mechs and fast paced parkour? Give me a name that has those 2 main things.

Nah, not only. Game apparently had subpar, cheesy writing, poor performance and was also a visual effects mess. Just watch some gameplay, there are bright, colorful particles all over. I wouldn't be eager to play that even if the concept of "military shooter but with magic" resonated with me. With better marketing the game might have been bought more but not sit at a mostly or very positive on Steam but on mixed instead. This doesn't seem to be the case of a masterpiece and gem flying under the radar but a mediocre game not being able to use it's AAA power.

that, plus the name is really poor, cause when people hear immorals they think of the 2022 stinker from ubisoft.

That's exactly what it is, on top of that it has god-awful writing. Obviously, the only way I experienced 'this' was via RU-vid videos. Also, it came out two weeks after Baldur's Gate 3, and three days before Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon.

Right? It's a bigger budget than MGS5 and asking for more is probably one of the reasons they fired Kojima.

It does look very linear and it shows you can get stronger weapons but the advertisements for the game make them all look like they work the same with little customization

Our tomcat just goes to sleep if people are done paying attention to him and it's not dinnertime yet. 😆

Overwatch 2 is t an expensive failure, though? I mean, sure, it’s a shit game, but it’s making money. Just not boatloads like it was expected to.

No doubt it has a size of 500GB to boot, which most pirates usually disregard with a "nah, fuck this".

same

I agree. I remember hearing of it, but it never seemed worth my attention. And I even assumed it was another live service.