@@dlingfasin6826 trinity doctrines is the fabrications of man not in scriptures and there not way that you can describe it as so only going outside of scriptures hence it is a false narrative and a doctrine easily proven by scriptures and historical evidence of its existence
@@dlingfasin6826 seems RU-vid taking away my response, follow false trinity just makes you another false teacher of councils of men in Rome in counterfeit Christianity
@@Zipfreer The Trinity is not only inside the Bible (the creator of this video and every unitarian video in this site are doing olympic levels of mental gymnastics and taking verses out of context to justify their heresy. Arianism was condemned and debunked in the 4th century by the actual church and all christians. Go do your history. Even just calling the early church (the real one) and its teachings ´councils of men in Rome´ screams a profound level of ignorance in the history of the religion you supposedly follow.
Yes, he was the Christ planned before Abraham. Jesus never claimed to be God. He claimed to be the Son of God. John 10:36 Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
@@shanederry2691you missed it. "I Am" is the name of the Hebrew God. It's the name God revealed to Moses in Exodus. Translation, Jesus basically called himself God. The Jews understood this and immediately picked up stones to kill him.
@@trich103 No he didn't! The blind man in John 9:9 said "ego eimi" "I Am". Was he claiming to be God? God in Exodus 3:14 said "ego eimi ho on" which is "I am the Being". Jesus didn't say "Before Abraham was, I am the Being. He said "Before Abraham was I am he. Exodus 3:14 Brenton Septuagint Translation And God spoke to Moses, saying, I am THE BEING; and he said, Thus shall ye say to the children of Israel, THE BEING has sent me to you.
@@biblicalunitarian Why is not the simple scriptural picture sufficient? Why is it necessary to go the "Greek metaphysics" to find that the above Scriptures are all very misleading and actually there are three Gods? To make Greek metaphysics and scripture testimony agree, it is said that there are "Three Gods in one." But for those who desire to be guided by the Word of God, the scripture clearly refutes this compromise. It very clearly distinguishes YahushuahaMassiach, the Son of EL ELYON from the One Eternal God of Whom the above quotations speak. This is very important, and is fatal to Greek metaphysics.
@@biblicalunitarianYahushua was tempted; God cannot be tempted: therefore the Trinity theory is false. Let us carefully consider a few of the many statements of Scripture that show the "Trinity" theory to be untrue. John 5:30, "...I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." This is Jesus speaking. It is perfectly understandable in the light of the scriptural picture that Jesus was a man wholly dependent upon God. But how can it be fitted into the Trinity picture? Let us not run from these clear testimonies, but reverently ponder them, seeking guidance in truth. John 14:28, "...my Father is greater than I." If we believe the scripture, we cannot believe the man-made doctrine that Jesus was co-equal with God. The whole record of the Gospels - the plain, literal record of the life and sayings of Christ is in direct and continuous variance with this doctrine. How could the "co-equal" Trinity theory be more directly denied than it is in these words of Jesus? Can black mean white? Scores of statements could be given showing that Jesus was truly a man, truly fighting against sin, truly overcoming; truly learning, truly praying to the one true God who was greater than he. If Jesus was an all-powerful God just pretending to fight against temptation when really he could not be tempted, just pretending to pray to someone greater than himself for help and strength, then we in effect accuse the whole Gospel record of being a deception and a cruel mockery of man's real weakness, man's real and bitter struggle against sin.
Difficult but not impossible. Take for instance the Jews who were tradition enslaved persons. (John 8:31, 32) Then Jesus went on to say to the Jews who had believed him: “If you remain in my word, you are really my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” Most of Jesus' first Century disciples were Jews.
What did Thomas call Jesus ? 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. "my Lord and my God" Did Jesus rebuke him for it ? No, Thomas finally believed.
@@mkovis8587 : AFTER Thomas realized that Jesus was an ANGEL of God, he said what others before have said. Did everyone who were present fall down and worship Jesus after Thomas said what he did? Afraid to look Jesus in the face lest they should perish? (Exodus 33:20) But he added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”
You speak so nicely and explain things in a simple and straightforward way that is so easy to understand. Excellent work, and thank you for these pearls of truth.
He doesn't explain well, he actually avoids the many scriptures that speak of Jesus as God that is written. Yes Jesus as the Man Christ DID NOT GRASP AFTER The DIVINE PREROGATIVES. He could not, in his role or mode as Son. But Jesus is God ,the only true God as Father as well as the Comforter, maybe reading slowlllly John 14th chap. You can see that.
@@colingr318 The one God is Jesus as to his nature as Spirit. The human b Nature is the Christ the Son . What you fail to see is that Jesus is more than the Son, he is the Father also. If Jesus is called God, then he is as the only true God the Father.Isa. 9:6,John 1:1,14,Jude 25, Zech 14:9, Rev. 19:11-16 ,Rev 1:8 ,11, 4:8, 22:13,16,20 Jn 20:28 The Lord of Me, The God of me, spoken to Jesus and not denied by him after the death of the Christ upon his resurrection, he was God manifest in the flesh. How do you miss that Jesus is the Father and Comforter in John 14:?! How is it you don't know that God is our Father and there is only one God and if Jesus is called God, he is the FATHER! THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND THAT GOD BEGOT A BODY OF FLESH, THE CHRIST, The man Christ is Jesus and the Lord God is Jesus. The Father is not a separate or other being, he is the only God and he has the Logos or plan or idea that was with him and was God as one cannot separate one's idea of expression from himself. The Word in time, became flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus is God from eternity and God in Christ, the same Lord and his name is Jesus as he has the Father's name
@@colingr318you seem to be reading backwards yourself. Jesus was fully God and fully human because He emptied himself of His divinity and took on the nature of man unto himself. Unitarians read the Bible with utter blindness and oblivious of the truth that Jesus Christ who did NOT consider equality with God a robbery but emptied himself of His divine nature and took on the nature of a man and even that unto death, death on the cross. You misinterpreted scripture.
John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
The bible clearly describe God as Lord and Jesus claim he is the Lord. So it seems very clear that Jesus is God in human form. And because he is in human form, he is very dependent on God the father. He has to pray to the father just like every human, and be dependent on the father for every instruction day after day. Now why did God decided to do it this way. Maybe it's to set an example on how to truly follow God with all your heart soul and strength.
@@christophercano4809 He gave up his Godly powers but not his character. Hebrews 2:9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while. I use to believe that since Jesus is God himself he can create another universe if he wanted to. But as I kept reading the bible throughout the years. I learned that is he not omnipotent like God. But the bible does say Jesus is the one who did create the universe... Colossians 1 -15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. -16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
God humbled himself and BECAME man. And he set the example for man by making statements like this. Jews always wanted this boisterous God but in reality God humbles himself by becoming his own creation and truly understanding and guiding them. Do not be deceived. Cheers. Jesus Christ is God incarnate.
We are in the last days so false teaching is ALL over the internet. The attack on the Deity of Christ is on par for the enemy. The false church and counterfeit Christianity is EVERYWHERE. It ALWAYS starts with attacking the incarnation.
Beautiful and simple way to explain the deity of Jesus while He was on this earth. And I do not ever recall Jesus denying that He is God. He diverted the attention away from Himself and to God the Father so that we might know He (Jesus) IS God in the flesh. He states in both Mark 10:18 and Matthew 19:17 that there is none good but God. But, we all agree that Jesus is GOOD.
Man this is brilliant . I'm not a fan of any Christian Sect. But i have to give respect to the Unitarian Christians. You are a breath of fresh air. Reasonable. Logical and very admirable . No mental gymnastics just straight discussion using reason and logic. Ya'll are awesome
@@gtxoiltastebad I agree with you that all religious aren't perfect. But the way I see it, the people aren't what matters as much as the belief itself! In fact, the Christian worldview explicitly tells us that we won't be perfect. Christian churches are like hospitals for the sick. If you're perfectly healthy you don't need a hospital. We all need churches, imperfect as they are. Maybe God is calling you to do your part to help make them better? I heard a really cool saying that is one of the reasons I stayed in a church; "Not a perfect church, a perfect Saviour".
@@lizzard13666 I agree a house of worship can be very benificial. But it can also be a great tool for the wicked. I'll give you an example. Trinity exists no where in the bible. and was created by the church 300 years after christ. Now a house of worship has turned into a house of control by demonic forces. Now sending a person to this place isn't going to fix him. Its going to make him worse. The church has no right to disrespect God by making trinity when God forbids it in the most important Commandment. The 1st Commandment. In this sense... You can see why the church isn't the best place for clairty . Do you agree?
@@gtxoiltastebad Yeah, I'm a Biblical Unitarian/Christadelphian, and I've spent years studying the various Trinity models, so I'm aware there are problems! That still falls under my previous comment! God doesn't expect us to be perfect, He expects us to be faithful!
The Father can't be the son in nature. There are so many simple logical statements for people who actually read the Bible. Many reject Christianity because they say "You have two gods."
@@tim-lookingforward-scholte1180 ,God did not die, the Son of God the man Christ, died as a kinsmen redeemer. God is Spirit, God is invisible, God is omnipresent, God had no body, save the tabernacle of flesh he begot. Jesus is both the Deity God and the Son of God his Christ/Messiah.
@@bobjames3748 It is just as you said - "God did not die" God did not die for the sins of mankind, Jesus did. Therefore, Jesus is not God. People use the word "deity" to mean anything they want it to mean. Many call angels deity, or the archangels deities. That means nothing in comparison to calling Jesus as if he is the same being as God. How can he be God, the one God, and do things that God cannot, like die? How does Jesus get rid of being God to do that, but gain being God again afterwards? He either is God and he did not die, or he is not God and he died for our sins. The concept of the Trinity was developed by people trying to make sense of all the verses about the Father, Jesus, and holy spirit. But we know more about those verses now. We don't have to do grammatical gymnastics anymore. Jesus is great as the Son of God at the right hand of God over all. He is unified with God because he keeps himself in unity with God. He is living bodily in heaven today and God is inviting people to believe that He raised Jesus out from the dead and to confess Jesus as their Lord in order to receive salvation to themselves.
@@ajaxzaya0991 For sure it makes him someone other than the one God who the Bible calls "God". The word "god" in the English language might be used to describe Jesus in that he is a powerful being who is living in heaven and has everlasting life. Some might use those kinds of things to define him as "a God." Language is difficult at times. But looking at the whole Bible to help interpret the more difficult passages, we have to conclude that Jesus is someone other than Yahweh, the Father, God. The Bible does not include Jesus into the One God of Israel, nor the one God of Ephesians 4:6 in the New Testament.
Anyone that reads the New Testament for themselves can come to no conclusion other than Jesus is not God himself. Read the books of the apostles and it is clear they viewed God and Jesus separately and God greater. Glory to Jesus and I personally know how emotionally we can love Jesus because he joined us in our suffering as humans AND Jesus and I have the same Father God! Glory!
Apparently not anyone... 3 Persons but 1 God= The Father, The Son Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit is the Triune Godhead. Jesus Christ has always existed with The Father and Holy Spirit... Jesus Christ is The Alpha / Beginning and The Omega / End.
@@samuelcallai4209 NLT Bible Matthew 28:16-20 The Great Commission Then the eleven disciples left for Galilee, going to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw Jesus, they worshiped him-but some of them doubted. Jesus came and told his disciples, I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach these new disciples to obey all the commandments I have given you. And be sure of this... I am with you always, even to the end of the age.
It’s so nice to see a new video on this channel. I’m currently in a small bible study group and we are going through the book of John. They are all trinitarians and it’s frustrating sometimes. But I’m there so I can be around others who at least believe in Jesus. The videos on this channel will help me explain to them why I’m a Biblical Unitarian as we continue to study John. Please keep posting new videos. 🙏🏻 🙂
JWs are God's last days' people (Isaiah 43:10). Try studying with them. 'No man has SEEN God AT ANY TIME' (1 John 4:12,20) is very clear. Jesus was never God.
No one has heen his spirit, Tonga.. you have to read in context. Jesus was seen because he became man. You should read these verses: 1 John 5:20, John 1:14, 1:14 (after read 1 John 1:1-2), 1:18, 10:30, Isaiah 44:6, Revelation 22:13, Revelation 1:8, John 12:44-45, Luke 7L16, Exodus 3:14 (after read John 8:58, same words in Hebrew), John 5:23. John 5:31-32 - Philippians 2:3-11 (this literally says Jesus is God). Matthew 7:20-24. The disciples worshiped Jesus: Luke 24:49-53, John 9:38, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 28:9, Matthew 28:17, Matthew 2:11. The Father, Yahweh, says that Jesus is God: Hebrews 1:8-12. Every knee will bow for Jesus: Isaiah 45:23, Romans 14:11, Philippians 2:10-11. Jesus is the Begin and the End, He is God: Revelation 22:12-13 > Revelation 1:8 > Revelation 4:8. @@tongakhan230
@@MelissaK-lh4ig : When John wrote that 'no man has seen God AT ANY TIME' he is obviously talking about a form that humans CAN SEE. Spirits CANNOT BE SEEN ANYWAY. Was Jesus God in a form that humans can see? The answer would probably be YES. Then explain John's statement please? Just citing a load of scriptures???? Unless the Bible has contradictory teachings, we must reconcile all scripture with the above TRUTH. I can help with one scripture at a time if it needs explaining IF it seems to contradict the above truth.
The first step is to realise the trinity is false. The second step is to realise Jesus(Peace be upon him) is not divine but was a man sent by the one true God. The third step is to ask God sincerely to guide your heart to the truth and what is most pleasing to him. “Say “He is Allah , [who is] one, Allah the Eternal Refuge, He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to him any equivalent.” {Quran 112} I invite all the sincere truth seekers to study Islam from authentic sources. Peace❤
Great content, brother. It seems straight forward to me to just accept one Lord and one God. For me, when you simply turn loose of the idea that Jesus HAS to be God, everything clicks. Really enjoyed your interview with Dr. Dale Tuggy as well. Keep up the good work.
This should help. (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ Only the one Jesus and his disciples address as Father is God. Jesus is a SON of God whom God SENT on a mission. (John 1:34) And I have seen it, and I have given witness that this one is the Son of God.”
@@ntxn9336 "People just don't know their Bible at all." Could be a contributing factor on either side, but certainly not the main issue of why there are differing opinions on this subject. It's not really a valid argument in this case.
@@ntxn9336 : The whole purpose of Satan making Jesus into God was to destroy the value of Jesus' sacrifice (in the minds of people. Not actually though). Hebrews 9:. 24 For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, so that HE NOW APPEARS BEFORE GOD on our behalf. If God sacrificed HIMSELD to pay it to HIMSELF, then it would be similar to someone paying HIMSELF some money. Nonsensical.
The reader of Revelation should keep in mind that what they are reading is described as: i) the revelation of Jesus Christ; ii) the testimony of Jesus Christ; iii) which God gave to Jesus; iv) which Jesus gave to an Angel; v) which John testified to; (Revelation 1:1-2). *Revelation 1:8; Revelation 22:13* “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the LORD God (kyrios ho theos = YAHWEH), “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” "kyrios ho theos" always applies to YHWH, not to Jesus. That is why translators used "the LORD God....the Almighty." Jesus is never referred to as the LORD God YHWH or the Almighty. The one “who is and who was and who is to come” is defined by a correct understanding of the context. Revelation 1:4 and 5 which reads: *_“Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before His throne, AND from Jesus the Messiah, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.”_* In Revelation 1:4-5 there is a separation between “the one who was, is, and is to come” and the Messiah. The one “who is, and who was and who is to come” is God (YHWH). People who study Revelation need to realize from the start the following truths and then read on with understanding: i) it's the revelation of Jesus Christ; ii) it's the testimony of Jesus Christ; iii) WHICH YHWH GAVE TO JESUS; iv) which Jesus gave to an Angel; v) which John testified to; (Revelation 1:1-2). So the voice in Revelation 1:8 and 1:11( a contested verse) is an ANGEL conveying to John the words of YHWH verbatim that the ANGEL would also have received verbatim from Jesus. How will God YHWH come? He comes by revealing himself through the person of Jesus Messiah just as He did the first time. "Alpha and Omega" are Greek letters. Neither God nor Jesus are Greek letters. This title belongs to YHWH, not Jesus. Most titles and names are interpreted in a figurative sense, and the context will determine who the title is applied to. Many titles for YHWH are sometimes conferred upon Jesus in the NT. The context determines whether the title is referring to YHWH or Jesus.....but these shared titles do not mean Jesus is YHWH. The phrase “the Alpha and Omega,” is referred to by Hebrew scholars as a Hebraism. It was in common use among ancient Jewish Commentators to designate the whole of anything, "from the beginning to the end." For example: ‘Adam transgressed the whole law from Aleph to Tau'. YHWH is truly the beginning and the end of all things, while Jesus is the beginning and the end because he is the firstborn from the dead, the Author and Finisher of our faith, the Man by whom YHWH will judge the world, and the man responsible for the age of Grace and the Kingdom age to come (see Heb. 1:10). ---------------------------------- *The First and the Last* can refer to YAHWEH in the OT and Jesus in the NT but that doesn't mean Jesus is YAHWEH being referred to by that title. This should be obvious by a reading of Revelation 1:17-18. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as one dead. And he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid! I am the first and the last, 18 and the Living One, and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of the grave. YAHWEH was never dead, therefore Jesus is referred to as the first and the last without actually being YAHWEH. The phrase, “the First and the Last,” is a title that is used five times in the Bible, twice in Isaiah in reference to God (44:6; 48:12) and three times in Revelation in reference to the Son of God (1:17; 2:8; 22:13). In the Old Testament, YHWH is “the First and the Last.” Isaiah 41:4, it speaks of YHWH as *"having called forth the generations of men, and was with the first of them and is with the last of them."* Obviously the phrase *“the First and the Last”* is connected with YHWH calling forth the first and last generations. *_“Who has done this and carried it through, calling forth the generations from the beginning? I, the LORD (YHWH ADONAI)-am with the first of them and with the last-I am He.”_* Isaiah 41:4 Do you see that God called forth the generations in the Old Testament? In the NT times, God has conferred that authority on His Son. Thus, it is easy to see why the Lord Jesus is called “the First and the Last” in the book of Revelation. It will be Jesus the Messiah who will call forth the generations of people from the grave to enter in to everlasting life. God gave Jesus the authority to raise the dead (John 5:25-27). In all the works achieved by Jesus Messiah, surely he is the 'first and the last' appointed human prophet to redeem mankind from the power of sin. Jesus is also the "first from among the dead:" *_And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy._* Colossians 1:18 The conclusion is that the title belongs to God himself and he has given that title to His Son. There is nothing in this title that makes Jesus the one true God YHWH. The Bible teaches God is the Father of Jesus Messiah. There is only one YHWH and only one begotten Son of YHWH.
Yes ..Someone who was dead. Rev 1:17 Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, The Lord God raised Jesus from the dead.
1 Timothy 2:5 King James Version 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 2 Corinthians 5:19 King James Version 19 To wit, that God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Trinitarians believe in one God, with three Persons. There is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Three in One. They are not the same person. They all exist at the same time. God the Father is not God the Son, God the Son is not God the Father, God the Holy Spirit is different from God the Father and God the Son. All are divine. All are eternal. All are equal. All are worthy of and receive worship. Jesus is Immanuel, which translated means "God With Us". Jesus refers to himself as "I AM", the same name that God used with Moses when Moses asked who should he say sent him. The reason why the religious leaders sent Jesus to be crucified is because they knew He was claiming to be the Messiah - the Son of God as referenced in the OT. If Jesus was not God in the flesh, the atonement is not sufficient. The Son of God was the term used in the Old Testament for the Messiah. Yes, there is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. They are not the same person, but they are all divine, all equal in eternal nature, all equal in essence, and all worthy of worship. The Messiah cannot atone unless He is perfect, and sinless. A created being cannot atone for anyone. The atonement would not work, because a created being is by nature a sinner. Also, Jesus received worship many times. Only God receives glory and worship. God will not share His glory with another. However, when Jesus was still on this earth, He asks God to restore the glory He had with the Father in heaven. Jesus humbled Himself. He came in the form of a man, 100% God, 100% man. He added humanity to His divinity. When He speaks of God the Father, He is speaking as an obedient Son, not as a created Son, but as a unique, one of a kind, sinless, perfect Lamb of God. Again, the atonement would not be sufficient to satisfy God's requirement for payment of our sin debt if Jesus was simply a man. All men are created beings and are born with a sin nature. If you don't believe that Jesus is God in the flesh (not God the Father, but God the Son), who do you think Jesus is, and who do you think the Holy Spirit is?
@joannacarlson9481 Your argument hinges on the assumption that Jesus must be divine to atone for sins, but this is not supported by the Old Testament sacrificial system, where animals, not divine beings, atoned for sins. Jesus being referred to as "Son of God" doesn't necessitate divinity, as Israelites and angels were also called "sons of God" in the Bible. Jesus explicitly identifies the Father as the "only true God" in John 17:3 distinguishing himself from God. The Holy Spirit is God's active force, not a person, as it is not described with personal attributes consistently in the scriptures.
Can I just comment on the atonement aspect, on which you make an interesting point. In the Law of Moses the animal offering was to be an unblemished specimen. That is, outwardly without spot. Jesus satisfied this by being sinless, because sin is the blemish or spot which marks us. He could definitely do that while still being a man, because of the important addition, that he was given the spirit without measure (John 3:34). You suggest that a human being cannot atone because of the sinful nature that we have. Yet, that is exactly what Jesus needed to have in order to atone. Let me explain. In order to overcome sin, he had to have something to overcome. If he was God then he wasn't overcoming anything, because it would be impossible for him to sin. In order for sinless to mean anything, there has to be the possibility of sinning. Hebrews 4:15 says that he was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. What does this mean, but that he must have shared our sinful human nature. Because it is our very nature that brings temptation. As James says, 'every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed' (Jam 1:14). So with Jesus, he had the ability and possibility to sin, but didn't. He arrived at the cross as a sinless man, having overcome human nature. This is why we believe on him, because he's done something that no other man could do. And by putting our faith in him we share in his victory over sin. Another relevant verse is Hebrews 2:14: 'Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil'. This again shows how Jesus possessed our sinful nature. He took part of the same as what we have. And for what reason? That by dying he might destroy that which had the power of death. Did he destroy a supernatural being called the devil? No. Nobody destroys another being by dying. The only thing that gets destroyed by death is the body and whatever is in it. Therefore he destroyed the flesh nature that he bore. Our sinful human nature which has the power of death for each one of us. If you have any questions I'm happy to discuss.
Are you also one human with three persons. It doesn't make sense because it's completely senseless and stupid. You change the very nature of God, this is semantics. God is a being who has a mind. If God has more than one mind or personality then it's more than one God. If you have to think to yourselves about something then it's more than one being. God doesn't mean anything with your views.
They really don't it's a complete nonsense. Three separate people with the same authority and attributes but be a type. Like you could get three identical siblings born at the same time. The type would be *Triplet humans* so they could be one set of triplets but they wouldn't be the same entity.
@@gnocchimitpestoundfeta89 Wow! You have an open mind. My brother in law who is a Christian won't even touch it for fear of betraying Jesus. This is called brain wash. I m a Muslim and l have no problem reading the bible.
I have a thought. We know scripture says Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father but nowhere are we told the Father is seated at the left hand of Christ. 😉 God is much much greater.
Yeah you're right, Father is greater than the Son 1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
@@mcandler_the_unscottish What ignorance the unitarians will have a ND they cannot understand the dual nature of Jesus as the God and man. You cannot see Rev.22:1,3-4 and grasp what it is saying, or Zech 12:10 or that our saviour is God and Jesus is spoken as our saviour, so then we would have. Isa 62:11. Why you a kid seeing Jesus called both Lord and God in John 20:28! You people cannot understand that Jesus is 100% man and this would not grasp after divine prerogatives and call himself God as such, but would not deny those who understood he was Deity. You tell me what Rev.22:1,3-4 means ? I think because of your sins and not believing the Bible correctly and denying his full deity miss that He is Lord God Almighty in Rev. 4:8.
Jesus is God in Life and nature, but not in the person of the Father. He is the person of God the Son, have the Life and nature of the Father, but not the personhood.
Trinitarians are taught this doctrine from the start and view scriptures through that lens. But if one simply reads the texts for what they actually say, it’s said over and over that God is the Father, and Jesus is the Lord, his Son. It’s very plainly written. All sorts of mental gymnastics have to done to make Jesus God. And if it’s not answered within the trinity lens, it becomes a mystery. Which means Jesus failed, because he said he came to reveal God.
@@KezzaTianzun Research the grammatical error in that translation. Btw... it wasn't Alpha and Omega... it was Aleph and Tev. Jesus didn't even speak Greek. He spoke Hebrew and Aramaic. Btw... you may also find that that Aleph/Tev is not supposed to be read out loud in the text and not nouns. They're grammatical markers kind of like a comma. Look into it.
Do you read any other passages than a couple per verses when it is speaking of Jesus in his nature as many and actually see the ones that call Jesus God? ...I didn't think so.
@@TheSwordfish009Says the person who pretends they know something about language over people who have done the Greek translations for more days than you have read someone telling you squat. Jesus didn't write this, others who knew Greek dis, so that is shot down. You assume he didn't and where you came up with that is absurd.any He rewa especially in Commerce and Religion knew Greek or enough to speak it. But Jesus wasn't calling himself this, others did . I have come to the conclusion that Unitarians that deny Jesus Deity are a total AntiChrist religion and with out a doubt burn eternally in the lake of fire. They are just as wrong on other doctrines and when you actually see them, they are without any Holiness. You say it wasn't Alpha and Omega, but that simply isn't the facts. You assume none of the Apostles knew Greek and that is a fanciful idea,.
@bobjames3748 every time someone referred to him as God or claiming to be God, Jesus denied it. He said over and over again that he is the SON of God and is subordinate to Him (Yahweh).
Remeber what jesus said before he bought lazurus back. He said sorry to his father because he spoke of his own initiative, but knew his father would hear him. Jesus basically said his father is the reason he was able to do this, also it shows jesus has his own way of thinking. But back to your question, if jesus said this to the crowd then he basically was showing this was God that did this, not himself, so it makes sense they said God is among us
"God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself" God was in Christ with Christ in his fullness. Just like God is in us now... Doesn't mean us or Jesus was God
Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father .. you can't sit next to someone and at the same time BE that person! Trinitarians remind me of that saying "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they've been fooled"! And secondly half the reason for the "confusion" is the removal of God's name from the scriptures!!
Even a fool need not to error therein, when we read what is written, and not come in with our preconceived denominational theories, then we see God’s Word in all its glory and simplicity. Our God and Father rejoices when He is established as the one and only God and Creator and when Jesus Christ the Son is given His place as Redeemer and Lord over the Creation, seated at God’s right hand, who is soon returning as King of Kings and Lord of Lords! Great teaching and sharing. Thank you!
John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 Dont know why some people are blind to this. they think too much materialistic or physical world, instead of spiritual I guess. Three in one, Not three different Gods, But all three One God.
"Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider being equal with God a treasure to be grasped, But emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, becoming in the likeness of men;" (Philippians 2:6-7)
Believe Jesus is Christ, Son of God promises eternal life! Once Saved Always Saved! Salvation can NEVER be lost! Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and rose again the 3rd day!
@@shanederry26912 Peter 1:1 ".....our Savior and God, Jesus Christ" John 14:8 the disciples ask Jesus to show them the father. Jesus responds by saying I been with you for so long and you still don't know who I am? I am in the father and the father is in me.
@@trich103 You people are exhausting. 2 Peter 1:1 is ambiguous in wording. So you can't use it for proof of anything. Catholic Public Domain Version Simon Peter, servant and Apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who have been allotted an equal faith with us in the justice of our God and in our Savior Jesus Christ. Aramaic Bible in Plain English Shimeon Petraus, a Servant and an Apostle of Yeshua The Messiah to those who, equal in honor with us, were worthy for the faith by the righteousness of Our Lord and Our Savior Yeshua The Messiah.
Very clear from Scripture that Jesus is NOT God, but fully MAN. Just as the first Adam was, so also the last/second Adam. MAN. And that man had/has a God. That means that Jesus is NOT God. So simple.
So you even read the Bible or have some Unitarian lying mess of a minister spout that to you? I have posted to several people scriptures that a blind man can see Jesus is God, not from him declaring as the man Christ and grasp after divines as the Son and Christ. But in others in Revelation for 1:8 Rev 4:8 Rev22:13,16, Jude 25, John 14th Chapter exposes your doctrine but Just like Trinies , you people miss what Jesus says about Being the Father in a enigmatic speech and the Comforter. Unitarians were part of the Arian monstrosity that denied Jesus as fully God though plenty is scriptures show it.
Jesus is God, do not be led astray Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant. Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability. Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin) Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that? Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS) Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is) Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again) Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father) Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this. John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God? Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man. John 14-19 1 Timothy 16-17 Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
YAHWEH alone created the Universe. Jesus was given authority to create the spiritual conditions, principalities, and powers to govern his followers. Colossians 1:16 has nothing to do with the Genesis creation. "ALL" is not used in the universal sense in this verse. ALL things are defined in the text itself. Go read it again. Jesus is the Word? PROVE IT from scripture. The KJV translators gave no reason for turning "ho logos" into a proper noun and name.....and Jesus isn't even mentioned in John 1:1. NOWHERE is Jesus ever referred to as the word. An Exegetical Commentary on John's Prologue PART 2 by Don Smith. John 1:1 *In the beginning WAS THE WORD (HO LOGOS)* Greek word Logos: a word (as embodying an idea), a statement, a speech. Logos is a common Greek term that is used 330 times in the NT. The popular view in John's day was to define the logos as words and the thoughts behind the words expressed through speech, writing, a message, news, architecture, or works of art. LOGOS was a Greek word used hundreds of years prior to the birth of Jesus. Logos was used by philosophers to mean ‘the active reason of the creator behind the universe’. The writer of the prologue uses the definite article "ho" (THE) meaning God's Logos (word). "By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. He gathereth the waters of the sea together as an heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses. Let all the earth fear the LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him. For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast." Psalms 33:6-9 Quote: "The Greek language is a gender based language, therefore a Greek reading verses 2 to 14 will not read these verses and understand houtos and autos as referring to a person. Houtos and autos point back to "the word" which is an object. Since ho logos is a masculine word in Greek, and there is no Greek word for the English preposition "it," when translators come across autos and houtos as pointing to an object and not a person, "it" conveys the correct meaning to an English reader." ~Jean-Philippe Parent It is incorrect to insist that "pros" points to another person (Jesus) as having an eternal preexistent relationship with YHWH. What John is telling us is exactly what the Bible teaches: the Gospel is of the same eternal and divine substance as what YHWH is. There is an eternal relationship between YHWH and His word without the word being the person of Jesus. In John 1:1c there is no definite article before theos. Since there is no definite article used here while there is a definite article in 1:1b (ton theon) which actually points to (ho logos) as being in fact the same as God in Nature. Hence, in 1:1c it is correct to translate to English as follows: "and divine [theos] was the word [ho logos]." Both God and His word are the same in nature: spirit, eternal, divine, light, life. The word of God is God's word. "Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever." Psalms 119:160 Revelation 19:11-13 specifically says that God's name is the word of God. "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." Here we see that the rider on the white horse cannot be Jesus because the rider bears a name that no one else knows but Him. That excludes Jesus from being the rider. Only YHWH can know something no one else knows. Jesus cannot know things that YHWH says only He knows. The expression “the word of God” appears 5 times in Revelation and numerous times throughout the Bible. It almost always refers to a message from God with the exception of Revelation 19:13 where it is used as a name for YHWH. Everywhere else "the word of God" is a message from God, His spoken word, or the written word of God. The Bible never refers to Jesus as the word ("HO LOGOS.") The word of God is what God is, and what he speaks. Rather, Jesus claimed to be the messiah through whom YHWH chose to reveal Himself and His logos (the Gospel) to the world. The logos of John 1:1-5 and 1 John 1:1-6 is the Gospel message, not a person. "Beloved, I am not writing a new commandment to you, but an old commandment that you had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word that you heard.: So, 1 John 2:7 has the writer referring to back to 1 John 1:1 "that which we seen, heard, etc. in the beginning" and refers to it as a commandment, not Jesus. Jesus is not a commandment, and not the word. Jesus said: "these words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me." (John 14:24) Also SEE John 7:15-18; John 8:28; John 12:49-50; John 14:10. The belief that "the word" is the person of Jesus comes from pagan mysticism and philosophy. The eternal word of God becoming the begotten mortal Jesus causes numerous conflicts throughout the Bible. God and His word are never referred to as BEGOTTEN or BORN in the Bible. In the Hebrew Bible the word "dabar" is used instead of logos. Dabar in the Old Testament is never a person or spokesman. Dabar is a message, promise, command, word, or the thoughts behind the words. No lexicon of the Hebrew Bible lists dabar as a person, God, angel, or man. The dabar, or word of YAHWEH is his possession, and never a person in the Hebrew Bible. The same can be said for the Greek Bible when referring to the logos or word of God. The logos is the Good News a.k.a. the Gospel of the Kingdom (Luke 3:2 and Luke 4:43) preached by John the Baptist and Jesus from "the beginning" of the NT Age. Biblical Evidence: 1. ACTS 10:36-39 "You know the message (logos) YHWH sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace THROUGH Christ Jesus, who is Lord of all. Here we see the message described as the good news sent to the people of Israel through Jesus. Peter does not say Jesus is the word. 2. LUKE 3:2 "The word of God came to John the Baptist and he went around Judea preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.." 3. Romans 10:8-9 "But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." 4. Romans 10:17 "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of GOD." 5. Romans 1:16 "The Gospel message is the power of God that leads men to salvation." 6. 1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the word (logos) of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of GOD." 7. Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." 8. 1 Corinthians 15:2 "By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain." 9. 1 JOHN 1:1-3 "The gospel declared from the beginning is referred to as "the word of life." 10. Philippians 2:16 ".....as you hold firmly to the word of life." 11. John 6:63 "....the words I speak are spirit and life..." 12. Therefore many of his disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying (ho logos); who is able to hear it (autos)?” John 6:60 CONCLUSION: "The word" in John 1:1-5 is the Gospel, the word of life, the light that enlightens those who receive it, the message preached by Jesus from the beginning. Through Jesus God revealed the Gospel message (logos) to humanity. The word enters into, and dwells in, all those who hear it and believe. Question to all believers: What verse in the Bible establishes Jesus as ho logos (the word) in John 1:1?
The word of God is and always will be God's word because it's integral to Him. God's word is His word the same as a person's word is their word.....but even more so when it comes to God and His word. JOHN 1:14 *WHY THE WORD DID NOT BECOME FLESH.* NOTE: Rules of Greek grammar don't apply when the conclusion results in conflict with essential doctrines to our salvation. Knowing who YHWH is, who Jesus is, and who Paul is and what they taught, are all essential to our salvation. I have preserved the Greek text and translated it word for word into English to be compatible with John's Gospel, and the rest of the Bible. The Greek word "egeneto" can be, and sometimes is, translated as "came to" in the Bible. See part 7 for examples. Egeneto has a broad array of uses in the Bible and according to Lexicons it is translated with great latitude. That means the context has to be carefully considered. If an English word is chosen that conflicts with the Bible then it must be discarded. In the context of John's prologue, his Gospel, and the entire N.T., translating "egeneto" as "became" results in conflict with the Bible, whereas "came to" works perfectly with the entire Bible. Greek text: "kai ho logos sarx egeneto kai eskēnōsen en hēmin kai etheasametha ten doxan autou doxan hōs monogenous para Patros plērēs charitos kai alētheias." My compatible English translation: "and the word came to humanity and dwelt in us, and we beheld (perceived it with our minds) it's glory, (a glory like that of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth." THE GLORY was "like that of the only begotten of the Father. This means similar to that which they perceived was at work in Jesus. It does not mean "is Jesus." Consider John 17:22-24; and 2 Corinthians 4:6. No one could truly behold, understand, perceive, contemplate, or know what it is like to be Jesus, or to be the Glory of God, or to be the only begotten sinless Son of God....but we can experience the glory of YHWH's word working in us....the same word and glory that worked in Jesus. John is telling us that the same word of God that was at work in Jesus entered into him and the disciples when they heard and believed the words Jesus taught them. They experienced it's transforming effect on their hearts and minds. They experienced the Grace and Truth working in them. That's the "glory" referred to. The traditional translation of John 1:14 conflicts with: Deuteronomy 18:18; 1 Kings 21:17; Jeremiah 1:4; 1 Chronicles 17:3; Hosea 1:1; 2 Chronicles 12:7; Genesis 15:4; Genesis 15:1; Ezekiel 6:1; Jeremiah 1:2, 11; Jeremiah 13:8; Mark 1:1; Mark 1:11, Luke 3:2; Luke 9:35....and many more scriptures. The Bible does not support the traditional translation of John 1:14. "....I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers [Israelites], like you [Moses], and I will put my words IN HIS MOUTH [Jesus] and he will speak to them [Israelites] all that I command him. Deuteronomy 18:18; also see Acts 3:22 The word of God was to be placed into Jesus by YHWH Himself. That means the word of God could not have become the flesh of Jesus. No other verse in the Bible conveys the idea: "the word became flesh" (Jesus). "Flesh" in this context is referring to "humanity; (everyone, all people, or mankind) and not just one person. Jesus did not die to save himself. He died to save humanity. Check Acts 2:17 where Peter quotes Joel 2:28 where the Greek word "sarx" in many translations is rendered as human kind, humanity, all the people, etc.. Other translations use "flesh" but the meaning is "all of humanity." Paul also uses flesh as a reference to all of humanity where he states: "no flesh is justified by the works of the law" (Romans 3:20; Galatians 2:16). The writer of the prologue moves the reader to focus on the entrance of God's word into the hearts and minds of people where it transforms them, which effects the complete flow of human activity and affairs (when enough people believe it). John 1:14 is a summary of YHWH's purpose behind the the NT Gospel, which is to fulfill prophecy by having His word and spirit dwell in people to sanctify, justify, enlighten, transform, and give them eternal life. John 1:14 cannot be translated to conflict with Deuteronomy 18:18, or any other verses in the Bible. YHWH prophesied "My spirit will be in you and My laws will be written in your hearts. (Jeremiah 31:33). Jesus stated the words he spoke are spirit. John 6:63 Words don't become flesh. Words are spirit. Spirit does not become flesh. John 3:6 Spirit enters into the heart and mind and is expressed vocally, in the form of a creative work of art, in a written work, or some form of expression. If the word of God is not in you, then the spirit of God is not in you.
@@johnspartan98 Revelation 19:11-16 "The Rider on a White Horse" 1. Jesus Christ is identified as the faithful witness in Revelation 1:5, He is also the truth according to John 14:6. 2. The Lamb is identified as the Lord of lords and King of kings in Revelation 17:14 Thus, without any doubt, the Word of God in Revelation 19:13 is indeed Jesus Christ. By the way you said Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation.." compare it with 1 Corinthians 1:24 that literally says "Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God." Is it just a coincidence between Romans 1:16 and 1 Corinthians 1:24?
We also have, "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." (Matt. 19:16, 17) There are many other very direct references to Jesus denying that he is God. The references that seem ambivalent have a clear alternate explanation, overwhelming evidence that the idea of Jesus being God has only the most tenuous and oblique interpretations.
If you are implying or claiming Jesus was claiming to be God you are wrong. Nobody at the trial of Jesus said "We heard him claim to be God". Being consistent with translating Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I am he". Revelation 13:8 says Jesus is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Yet this didn't happen until many years later. Yes, Jesus was planned to come before Abraham existed.
@@Lexinton55on the contrary you are less close to being a Christian for believing it. The Trinity is the Mark of The Beast. It's a man's number 666. It represents the unholy transgression created by man to dishonour God and the sacrifice of his Son. You divide God with this false belief and disrespect the love of him and his son. The irony is this dividing and disrespect is put forward as the opposite, as unity and honour.
@@Lexinton55 Yes, Jesus is God in the sense he himself explained it in John 10:31-38. There he explained that if he is called the Son of God or even God because he was sanctified and sent to earth by the Father, that doesn't mean he was claiming equality with the Father and therefore he was not blaspheming.
I got the first like! Thank you for responding to YHVH's prompting and doing this work. You managed to find a perfect spirit in your delivery; calm, knowledgeable, endearing, yet factual and to the point. My own personality would add 1 more step - instead of just "thinking for a sec" it would be, reorganizing our faith and repenting. on one hand, we can claim ignorance, however innocent, idolatry is why the greatest commandment exists, the sh'ma, and not a small matter.
It is written - Matthew 24:10-13 Jesus obeys the 5th commandment It is written - Philippians 2:5-8 It is written - John 1:14 It is written - John 14:6 It is written - John 3:16 Praise God! Thank You LORD Jesus for stepping down from your place in glory to put on flesh so that we all can be reconnected to our creator!
I recently came across this channel and I’m really enjoying the content it helps me to understand this point of view a whole lot more with good research and understanding. I noticed that there hasn’t been much activity within the past 4 years, are you all planning on getting more active or is there another channel or platform where you have more content, I’d love to see more! God bless you.
Jesus is God, do not be led astray Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant. Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability. Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin) Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that? Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS) Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is) Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again) Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father) Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this. John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God? Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man. John 14-19 1 Timothy 16-17 Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
Yeah Jesus is a Man, not a God 1 Corinthians 15:47 Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven.
Don't deny the truth!!! The truth will make you free!!! Jesus is GOD forever!!! Who gave Moses the Ten Commandments? GOD. Jesus says in John 14:15 If ye love me keep my commandments.
God said (paraphrasing) in Genesis 1:26, "Let us make man in our image and likeness." What did God make? TWO people, male and female, or husband and wife. Therefore by God's own mouth, God is TWO. Father and Son. Not just one, not three, but clearly TWO. God put His fingerprint on so much of His creation declaring that TWO shall be ONE, just like God. Most people debate whether God is one or three, when the most obvious is actually what God said He created to look like Him. TWO = Father and Son. And the life and presence of God is simply His Spirit. Proverbs 30:3-4 clearly refers to God as "The Holy One" and asks what is His Name and what is His Son's name, if you know?
Yes. That is exactly what he said. What he did not say was "You believe in God, believe also that I am God too". We should believe in God (The Father) and we should also believe in his Messiah, his son. God (The Father) told us to do so, remember. (Luke 9:35) So listen to the Father (The Al-mighty God) and listen to the Son (The Messiah)
Jesus is God, do not be led astray Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant. Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability. Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin) Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that? Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS) Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is) Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again) Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father) Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this. John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God? Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man. John 14-19 1 Timothy 16-17 Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
Jesus says at the end of John 5 that Moses speaks of him. So please show me where does Moses ever speak of the son of God? Or does Moses only speak of God?
Why? The rest of the Bible has to be interpreted to harmonize with the plain unambiguous texts, not the other way around. The Bible doesn't work the way you want it to. You can't hear all this truth being stated and then rush out to find a few texts that YOU think stand in opposition to the plain unambiguous truth!! So what about John 1? It says nothing about Jesus being God. The word of God never became a flesh man either. Verse 14 is an obvious mistranslation of the Greek that was inspired by Gnostics and mystics in the early Church. The word CAME TO HUMANITY and DWELT IN US......etc.. That is the correct translation. If the word is not dwelling in you, then you are one one of YHWH's people. That is a FACT. Why? Because the word of YAHWEH is spirit, just as YHWH is spirit. John 1:1 a. In the beginning was ho logos, b. and ho logos was integral to ton theon [YHWH], c. and divine [theos] was ho logos. Alt: "and the word (ho logos) was divine (theos)." James Moffatt, former professor of Greek and New Testament Exegesis at Mansfield College in Oxford, England, and author of the well-known Moffatt Bible, agrees. He translated John 1:1c as, “the logos was divine.” In 1:1b, Ton Theon with the definite article is properly translated to English as "the God" with an uppercase "G" to signify it is referring to YHWH the only true God. Translators remove the definite article and use uppercase "G" to make God a proper noun referring to YHWH, the only true God (John 17:3). In 1:1c, Theos without the definite article is normally translated as god with a lowercase "g" and is sometimes translated as "divine." The divine translation more accurately applies here since there is no other deity mentioned. In John 1:1 all three instances of "ho logos" do not refer to another person or lessor god. The word is YHWH's word, and more specifically the writer is referring to none other than the GOSPEL which was in YHWH's forethought from eternity. The use of theos without the definite article, sandwiched between "ton theon" and "ho logos," indicates "theos" is being used as a predicate adjective to describe the spirit nature and qualities of YHWH and His word as being the same spirit, life, light, eternal, holy, and divine Logos. Both YHWH and His Logos are DIVINE. "Ho Logos" is an attribute and possession of YHWH, not a person, not a lessor god, and not Jesus. There is no Biblical basis for concluding that the second use of theos (without the definite article) is referring to a second person whose name is the word. The Author does not write: In the beginning was Jesus. No other deity besides YHWH is mentioned in John 's Gospel. Jesus never refers to himself as "ho logos" and neither do the Apostles. Quote: "The second use of theos in John 1:1c serves as a predicate adjective rather than as a predicate noun." [citation: Maximillian Zerwick, Biblical Greek, Rome: Scripta Ponificii Instituti Biblici, 1963, p. 55, par. 171; p. 57, par. 176. Regarding John 1:1b "pros ton theon" It is incorrect to insist that "pros" points to another person (Jesus) as having an eternal preexistent relationship with YHWH. What John is telling us is exactly what the Bible teaches: the Gospel is of the same eternal and divine spirit nature as what YHWH is. There is an eternal relationship between YHWH and His word without the word being the person of Jesus. According to Bauer’s Greek-English Lexicon the preposition pros with the accusative, as in John 1:1, 2, is a marker of movement or orientation toward someone or something. The context determines if it is a person or a something. Pros can mean a number of things such as, according to Bauer's: toward, towards, to, near, at, during, aiming at, striving toward, against, for, to indicate a connection by marking a point of reference, with reference to/regard to (about, because of, with respect to, which concerns, which belongs to, what makes for, in accordance with, in order to, for the purpose of),in adverbial expressions (“tends toward” Jas. 5:4) by, at, near. Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon adds the definition “pertaining to.” Also, various translations render pros with the accusative as: Concerning, as respects, pertaining to, of, even to. Furthermore, the Greek word generally rendered as ‘with’ is para and not pros. The assumption that "pros" means there is another person "with" God in John 1:1 can only be due to TRADITION. The mystics, Gnostics, and Philosophers like Philo infected the early church with a lessor god and /or logos theory that conflicts with the Bible. People who insist on this interpretation overlook the Biblical evidence that "pros" can also be translated as "with" when referring to a something, rather than a someone. (Examples below). NOTE: The LXX renders pros ton theon as “to God.” Eighteen other occurrences of pros ton theon in the New Testament Scriptures are translated as: “to God,” “toward God,” “related to God” or “pertaining to God.” For example, many translations render the phrase pros ton theon in Hebrews 5:2 as: “pertaining to God...” (NASB); “in relation to God...” (ESV); “related to God...” (NIV). Similarly, in Hebrews 2:17 and Romans 15:17. The same or similar phrases are used in a number of other texts. Bauer’s choice of phrase for Romans 15:17 is “that which concerns God” in its rendering of "ta pros ton theon." Regardless, there is Biblical evidence that "pros" can be translated as "with" when referring to a something integral to God such as his spirit, nature, attributes, word, wisdom, power, love, etc.. However, in my opinion: "integral to God" is more accurate. Truly God's word is an integral part of who God is (the self revealing one). Job 10:12-16 informs us that God’s attributes such as life, love, wisdom, power are with Him. Isa 40.10; 62.11 states “His reward is with Him.” 2 Kings 3:12 states “The word of the Lord is with him.” In John 1:1c the Greek phrase "pros ton theon" refers to things and not a person. Other examples make this point clear. We have: “things with God” (Heb 2:17; 5:1; Rom 17:15) “conscience with God” (Acts 24:16) “confidence with God” (2 Cor 3:4; 1 John 3:21) “peace with God” (Rom 5:1) “Faith with God.” (1 Thessalonians 1:8) Jesus cannot be read into the text of John 1:1 as being YHWH or the word because YHWH and His word are not begotten or born. Jesus was begotten and born. John 6:63 states God's word is spirit, meaning: of the same divine eternal substance. God is a spirit. (John 4:24) God's word is spirit. (John 6:63) God's word does not become flesh. (John 3:6) God's word is placed INTO Jesus. Deuteronomy 18:18. Jesus, the Son of God, is not the "word" (logos) of John 1:1. Rather, Jesus spoke his Father's logos....the very words he said belonged to his FATHER. (John 7:15-17; John 12:49-50; John 14:10; John 14:24). The belief that the word of God became the flesh of Jesus conflicts with the Bible which teaches us that the word of God came THROUGH Jesus to humanity to dwell in our hearts and minds and transform us. The Logos of God was placed into Jesus by God. Deuteronomy 18:18; Acts 3:22
Yes! It's so clear! I don't understand why Trinitarians can't see it! The John 1:1 Dilemma actually proves the Trinity false all by itself. Trinitarians read John 1:1 in one of two possible ways: 1) In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was WITH the Father, and Jesus WAS the Father. 2) In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was WITH God, and Jesus WAS God. If a Trinitarian picks 1, they must state that Jesus IS the Father, which is heresy to a Trinitarian. If a Trinitarian picks 2, they must state that Jesus was apart from God, WITH God, but not God himself. Option 2 carries the further issue of forcing there to be two Gods, one that Jesus is WITH and one that Jesus IS. Obviously option 2 is heresy to a Trinitarian as well. So that leaves you with zero possible options as a Trinitarian, and this is why John 1:1 precludes Trinitarianism.
@@lizzard13666They can’t see it because their minds are blinded by the god of the system of things. Don’t tell the Trinitarians that Satan is called a god too! They might crap themselves. 😂 “If, in fact, the good news we declare is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.” - 2 Corinthians 4:3, 4 Satan, as god of this system of things, obscures the truth about YHWH and Jesus so that they cannot attain to truth and life as John 17:3 says. But we hope and pray that all may come to know both of them in accurate knowledge and escape the crafty acts of the Devil.
@@lizzard13666 Absolutely wrong! The Word in John 1 is NOT Jesus. Jesus is the incarnation of the Word as a human being Jesus, in Palestine. 6000 years ago. The Word was with God and was God in eternity past and became flesh to dwell among us. He wasn't Jesus in eternity past, He was the Word and the Word became flesh, Jesus.
Thats right. And he called himself a "son of man" which reflects his origins in Eve, the source of all mankind. Gen3:15. "the SEED of the woman shall bruise the head of the serpent."
John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 Well the gnostics claim that the Logos a demigod, made the creation, but another angle is "logos" is simply the greek word for the english "word" and a definition of either is "a spoken or written communication." As i have repeatedly pointed out God spoke the creation into being with a spoken word, and promised a messiah from Israel throughout scripture, and scripture is written in words and preached in words. So why keep using an untranslated greek word amongst translated english words when you make this claim. Its either to sound religious or mysterious, or you are Gnostic. ?????
@@ken440 I don't care at all what Gnostics claim. "In the beginning was logos; and logos was with God and logos was God. John goes on to clearly identify Jesus as logos. The Greeks understood that Logos means God's universal and beyond view; ultimate truth and wisdom. Only God has God's universal and beyond view.
@@freedomtracksrecords4452 I was trying to jolt you into switching your brain on. You are simply using "logos" to sound holy. Its greek, it simply means "word" and so why do you only use greek for that single word, why not put write all of John1:1 in greek? All of Gods intent and wisdom was in His logos spoken in Gen3:15 when He promised one of Eves decendants would destroy the corrupt rebellion of ha satan. (note i am doing what you are doing, i am using hebrew for the satan, which simply means "advesary") God spoke that logos as a promise of redemption of corruption by the satan. God spoke with words, logos, in Deut18:18 in promising a descendant of the people of Israel (so far both humans) will be the great one who God will work THROUGH speak THROUGH. Its all spoken, promised in "words" which in greek is "logos" (because the writer of John1 used greek language) and in the course of time that promise spoken in Gods strong wisdom words, became true, was born, one of the flesh and blood dudes as promised all over Gen, Deut, prophets, all scripture, OT, which is all recorded in words (logos) and Jesus points this out in a few places (e.g. jn8:40) And Peter points it out (Acts2:22). Your use of "Logos" showing you are trying to make it something greater than its language understanding, that of a spoken or written communication. That is known as INFLATION OF PIETY. And that is religion at its worst, twisting meanings, creating heirachies and laity, the work of the nicolatans. be careful brother/sister. This trinity idea might be gnostic influence from the church fathers in the centuries following the hebrew born apostles.
Jesus would never put himself into his fathers position. But one thing to keep in mind is what Jehovah's Witnesses have been saying for over 100 years, and it is the fact that the Hebrew word for God is Elohim, and we need to understand that in the Bible the word for God is "Elohim" and means "Mighty ones" Now in today's modern language we have restricted the word "God" to mean the "almighty" basically the creator, but that was NOT so in the Bible days ! And I will show you. For example did you know that people, kings and judges in the Bible were CALLED Gods ? To illustrate, Psalms 82 says: (now this is God speaking) 1 God takes his place in the divine assembly; In the middle of the gods* he judges: And Vs 6 “I have said, ‘You are gods, All of you are sons of the Most High. Did you notice how even Jehovah calls them "Gods" and HE says "I have said "You are Gods" ......so the question is HOW were they Gods ? And when we have come up with the answer to that, then we will answered the question "How can Jesus be a God " ! Did you know Moses too was called "God" so was not that polytheism ? So if God can give the title of God to angles and people then WHY can't he give the same title to his son?
Hi! You might want to check in the Original Hebrew text for Psalms 82 whether, the word 'God' is g or G, like-wise Isaiah 9 & Hebrew 1. It's all upper case letter. And in the Bible, the's no where Moses, or the angels are Authorized to be worshipped. Lastly, Isaiah 45:6,18,21-23 God keeps saying;'There's no other god'
Jesus says, "I and the father are one." John clearly says "In the beginning was logos and logos was with God and logos was God. . . "All things were made through him." "Logos" is clearly referring to Jesus, if you read the rest of the chapter in context. In the Old Testament, God refers to himself as "I AM". In the New Testament, Jesus says, before Abraham was, I AM". Every Jew of the First Century understood that to mean Jesus is God, which is why the religious leaders picked up stones to stone Jesus. Thus, Jesus did say he is God.
Wrong, the Jews who knew the language and were not pretending like J.W. to know language and make up their own sayings. Elohim never meant a plural of beings but a plurality of attributes and power. Jeh. WItneases are not saved, cannot be in the error they are in. Charles Taze Russell was shamed in court regarding his ability to read any languages of the Bible. The false dating of events out them in the false prophet category and lands then in hell
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6).
This video does very well, like many others explaining this issue, it is so clear it makes trinitarians into complete knuckleheads to not see this. To not think through the logic presented. Added to what is said here, all the references made here to "Christ" are saying "anointed" or "anointed one" as "christ" is derived from greek 'christos" which means "anointed." This actually to me points to dishonesty in translation. Everywhere we see Christ we should see Anointed, in context to text. But translation way back in religious church terminology turned the greek word for "anoint" into a religious name, and Luther didnt fix that detail, so its stuck in the craw of churchianity. Those verses read out here, like 2Cor5:18 "but all this is from God who reconciled us to Himself through Christ" and in that its true meaning is ".....reconciled us to Himself through the anointed" and we ask ourselves "anointed what" and it is super obvious, as an offspring Of David as promised, the messiah, that this "christ" means the anointed son of David, the promised Messiah !!" All kings are "anointed." All the explanations here about Jesus representing, imaging, saying and doing what God did through him are meaning just that, Jesus is doing this and saying all this in book of John, through Gods ANOINTING !! Its all so obvious that it staggers me the trinitarian majority is so blind, and it can only be a spiritual blindness brought on by their own stubborn inability to truly seek truth, but they only subscribe to church doctrine without that personal "seek out your (own) salvation with fear and trembling." Something that after nearly 40 years as a trinitarian, just the same in accepting denominational dogma, I began to do 6 years ago, and it all just exploded into plain view. I had complacently let others tell me what verses meant, like that Jesus is God, lies every one. !! Wake up trinitarian who slumbers with only part truth, time grows short. Dont rely on your majority position, it is very unbiblical for a majority to be in the truth!
Good points. I would just add that God demands that we practice and speak the truth whether it be popular or not. If we look at the majority of created beings it may be that most are actually loyal worshipers of God. (Taking into account the numerous spirit beings that exist and outnumber the ones who satan (resist) God.) Even though it is wonderful and joyous to know and worship God in an orderly assembly of others who do so, each one must render an account to God on their own. Great job on allowing understanding to come and studying scripture deeply and honestly.
❤❤Good and yes the ANOINTING is His Holy Spirit. Yahweh is Spirit. So the ONLY HOLY SPIRIT is the Father. Now we are GETTING SOMEWHERE Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised... Isaiah 61 1The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; I would like a TRANSLATION where Christ is TRANSLATED anointed.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life. Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom. Colossians 1:16-20 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. John 20:17 (the forbidden verse).
@@Sts19929Yeah you're right, Jesus is a Creation of God no doubt Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all CREATION. 1 Corinthians 15:47 Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven.
@@ajaxzaya0991 (Isaiah 43:3) For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee. (Isaiah 43:11) I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour. The Lord our God says that he is the savior, and that there is no other savior but him; And at the same time Jesus is referred to as the savior by many authors, while Christ himself stated that he came to save that which was lost. Keep in mind that a believer knows that Christ is our Savior If there is no other Savior besides the Lord our God, how can Christ also be the Savior of the world?
Wrong John 5:20 says, "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life".
@@julianmanjarres1998 That translation has poor manuscript evidence, the better and earlier manuscripts read, "He was manifested in the flesh." Many Trinitarian translations don't use "God was manifested in the flesh" (NIV, NLT, ESV, NASB, CSB, NET). Do you believe when Jesus says that "they may know you the Only True God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent," in John 17:3, that is clear as day that Jesus doesn't consider himself part of the ONLY true God? There are no manuscript troubles for John 17:3.
The same first chapter in v 14 John confirms Christ as being the Son of God, which is what Jesus continually declared himself as and acknowledged to his disciples ie Mark 8:29
Just wanted to add something. It's easy to miss, but in John 5:23, it appears that Jesus is saying that people will honour the Son of God, just as they have been honouring God. It's just one of the passages which, although superficially appearing to communicate that the Son is equal to the Father, actually communicates the opposite, and especially given the context of verse 22. People will be honouring the Son BECAUSE the Father has given Him authority to execute judgement. The honour of the Son is derived from something that the Father has done towards the Son. It's basically like how one can respect someone appointed by a king to be a judge, because they respect the king. It's like how the Egyptians respected Joseph because of the authority that Pharaoh gave to him.
@@tomtemple69 I dont think there is one Christian on this planet that denies the Father and the Son. Well, it might be the Trinitarians though. For them are Jesus a real son? And by the way, where in the scriptures can I read that it is heresy to deny Jesus as God?
@@luis7961 John 14: 9 Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 10: 30 I and the Father are one.” 31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?” 33 The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.” they were trying to stone Him because He claimed to BE God
The first time I heard of unitarians I freaked out and wanted to study to correct them. Ended up finding your videos wanting to find out exactly what I needed to refute and ended up believing in unitarianism myself 😂 Thank you for your kind way of speaking truth and helping others see the error in their traditions. This channel has helped my family immensely!
Wow, thank you so much! That is so encouraging. Glad I could help. I'd love to hear more of your story, and where your family is at now. Feel free to friend request me on Facebook!
@@biblicalunitarian Alright, thank you! I sent a friend request this morning. Right now we're trying to find a church fellowship. We got kicked out of our church we had been going to, they are staunch trinitarians... We also sent out a brief email to about 15 churches to state our beliefs but where we overlap and wanted to find common ground with other Christians even if we don't agree on everything. The churches we emailed either didn't respond or we are not welcome. Please pray we can find a fellowship near us!
What about it? The chapter starts “Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me." John 14:1 NASB2020 There in the first verse Jesus has already identified himself as someone other than God.
@@DamianS1893 To sum it up: Jesus is a separate being from God (verse 1), through whom we have access to God (verse 6) and who reveals God to us (verse 7). Jesus is in God and God is in Jesus, and everything Jesus says is God's words and God is working through him (verse 10). Jesus will come to us by the Spirit of Truth, i.e. God's Spirit (verse 16-18) and God is greater than Jesus (verse 28).
Why would anyone call Jesus God? Jesus was God's Envoy. People who can believe that God was man who could get himself killed needs to come to terms with reality. The Jews knew Exodus 33:20. Setting eyes on God would spell death.
John 20:28-29 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. How would you explain this?
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” - 1 John 5:20 (KJV)
John 20:27, 28 Explained 27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. So the question is: When Thomas and the other disciples saw Jesus did they see God? A number of years after John and the other disciples were in the room when the Risen Savior appeared, John wrote his Gospel. (John1:18) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. And (1John 4:12,13) No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. (1Tim.6:16) Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. Thomas said “My Lord and My God”, Yet John who was also in the room with Thomas said ”No man hath seen God at any time”. Is there a contradiction here? The Bible does not contradict itself, scripture explains scripture. (John 14:7-11) If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.11Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. (John 3:34) For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. Therefore Jesus had the Spirit of God dwelling within him without measure, Jesus was not by himself, God was dwelling within him, so there is no contradiction, Thomas was correct because he remembered Jesus' teachings, and John is also correct. If we want to see God and to know what He's like, see Jesus because he is the image of the Father, with The Father dwelling within him in full measure, But we should also be able to see God in each other because we are the temple of the Holy Spirit. (Matt.5:14-16) 14Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.15Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.16Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. When the disciples saw Jesus they could see God dwelling within him, That's why Thomas was able to say “My Lord and my God” without contradicting the scriptures. So therefore when people see us they should also see God within us. Praise God!
"Where did Jesus claim to be God at in the Bible" well here is your answer. First where in the Bible did Jesus say to the Pharisees or to those who worshipped Him Don’t Worship Me I’AM not God or I’m not equal with God. How could He be One with the Father. You are in a religion that will bring you in Hell. At the Time Jesus told the Sanhedrin that He indeed was God they crucified Him. So Jesus was careful before it was His Time The Jews tried to stone Jesus more than once when they knew what he meant. "I and the Father are one" "Whoever has seen me as seen the Father' "Before Abraham was I am" example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming-deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16). While these direct citations are sufficient to establish that the Bible claims Jesus is divine, a more indirect approach may prove to be more powerful. Jesus repeatedly placed Himself in the place of Yahweh by assuming the Father’s divine prerogatives. He was often doing and saying things that only God has a right to do and say. Jesus also referred to Himself in ways that hinted at His deity. Some of these instances provide us with the strongest proof of Jesus' divine self-understanding. In Mark 14, Jesus stands accused at His trial before the High Priest. “Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?" And Jesus said, "I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven” (Mark 14:61-62). Here, Jesus is referring to the Old Testament book of Daniel where the prophet Daniel states, “I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him. And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should SERVE [WORSHIP] Him; His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed" (Daniel 7:13-14). In this reference to Daniel's vision, Jesus is identifying Himself as the Son of Man, a person who was given “dominion, glory, and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and men of every language might serve Him.” The Son of Man has a dominion that is everlasting and will not pass away. Jesus' use of the title "Son of Man" has surprisingly strong apologetic value. A sceptic of Christ's deity cannot easily dismiss this particular self-designation of Jesus. That Christ referred to Himself in this manner enjoys multiple attestations, as it is found in all of the Gospel sources. The phrase "Son of Man" is used for Jesus only And yet, if it is established that Jesus really did use this title of Himself, it becomes apparent that Jesus considered Himself to have everlasting power and a unique authority beyond that of a mere human being. Sometimes, it was Jesus’ actions that revealed His identity. Jesus’ healing of the paralytic in Mark 2 was done to demonstrate His authority and ability to forgive sins (Mark 2:3-12). In the minds of His Jewish audience, such abilities were reserved for God alone. Jesus also receives worship several times in the Gospels (Matthew 2:11; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38; 20:28). Never did Jesus reject such adoration. Rather, He regarded their worship as well placed. Elsewhere, Jesus taught that the Son of Man will ultimately judge humanity (Matthew 25:31-46) and taught that our eternal destinies depend on our response to Him (Mark 8:34-38). Such behavior is further indication of Jesus' divine self-understanding. Here are your 2 options Jesus was a Deceiver or else He is the third person in the Trinity: Father Son and Holy Spirit. If Jesus indeed is the Son Of The Most High God in three Persons your end will be what Christ Cried out at the Cross: My God My God Why have you forsaken Me” which is equal to Hell where the Devil is.
”When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are forgiven you.” And some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts, “Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?” But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, “Why do you reason about these things in your hearts? Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Arise, take up your bed and walk’? But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”-He said to the paralytic, “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.”“ Mark 2:5-11 NKJV
I am surprised that people who see themselves as educated are really so blind to the Bible truths such as your rejection of Jesus as God. You people reject comparison teachings, Biblical passages you don't like, some the Book Of Revelation, and then rape from Jesus his full deity. John 20:28, John 14th chap, Rev 1:8,11, 4:8, wind up proving you people are false teachers. Isa 9:6 with Mal.3:10 shows there is a child born a son given and he is the mighty God and everlasting Father, that there is one Father and Jesus was clear, see him and you see the Father, Know him and you know the Father. You reject him as the I AM, Isa.43:10-11,25 & JN 8:24-26, 18:5-8. Yes in your attempt to flee from Trinitarianism, you have fled from Jesus being the one true God Almighty. Ignorance is what I see in the Unitarian camp. Jerry Hayes debated Willy Olmo, who had similiar views of Jesus as not God and got thrashed badly. One would have to reject plain teachings and swerve around what you don't want to see or understand to come up with such lies. (The debate is available on Amazon). Trinitarians are a wicked bunch and a murderous lot, you folks are just ignorant, blind or uneducated, but haven't seen that you did as a group through the centuries as they( neither did us Monarchians). But you both will suffer the same fate, hell and eternally separated from Jesus our God. You do read other versions and the Greek Interlinear Bibles I hope when studying, because you seem to do a poor job.
@@biblicalunitarianYou seem to fail to understand, Jesus forgave sins as God in Christ, the Apostles remitted sins because of the plan of salvation through having men repent and be baptized for remission of sins. The passage describes that Jesus is doing the act and the scribes knew it ( something you fail to see) and the Apostles after Christ death given authority from him by the Spirit to do the workings of salvation with man, Jesus still is the forgiver not a Apostle. Making such comments as you made seems rather ignorant, you cannot even view the passage and see how others took it, you twist the false idea how you want it to say, Shame on you and all Unitarians for such antiChrist views .
🖐️♥️ .so Manny Treu insights that you are sharing here and even If i say " my Lord and my God ",i still know who i and refering to my Lord wich is Jesus and My God The God of Abraham Isaac Jacob " 📖 📯.
Jesus is "THE WAY" to the Father according to John 14:6. Jesus is "...the only mediator between God and man..." 1 Timothy 2:5 That's another reason why Jesus can not be The Almighty God, the Father..! The Bible calls Jesus "Mighty God" but it never calls him Almighty God..! -Isaiah 9:6,7 God bless you brother..!
“I AM” statements of John. •In John 6:35, Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life.” •In John 8:12, Jesus said, “I am the light of the world.” •In John 10:9, Jesus said, “I am the gate.” •In John 10:11, Jesus said, “I am the good shepherd.” •At the tomb of Lazarus in John 11:25, He declared to Martha, “I am the resurrection and the life.” •In John 14:6, He said, “I am the way and the truth and the life.” •Finally, in John 15:5, Jesus said, “I am the vine.” Revelation 22:13-14 (KJV) 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Isaiah 44:6 (KJV) 6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. You can’t have two First and Last. You fail to realize that the verses you mention is the Man Christ speaking which is different than the God in Christ speaking. You break all rules of hermeneutics. One God The Greek word Kai is translated as and, it is also Even or that is. The word And does not mean another person. Matt 28:19 says NAME singular which is Jesus. All you have to do is read through acts and notice when they mentioned baptism. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God, the King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the High Priest. And you believe that, but you don’t believe that One God can be all of that and more. Isaiah 44:6-8 KJVS [6] Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. [7] And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. [8] Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it ? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. Revelation 1:7-8 KJVS [7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. [8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. There can’t be two first and last. Isaiah 9:6 KJVS [6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Why is Jesus called / Identified as the Mighty God, and the everlasting Father? 1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS [16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. God put on flesh, and became as a man. Colossians 2:8-9 KJVS [8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Jude 1:25 KJVS [25] To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. All that God is resides in the Body of Jesus. Acts 20:28 (NKJV) 28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. God is Spirit. How does a Spirit have blood? There is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. So God produced a human body to be sacrificed for the payment of sin for all. Well over 300 times the singular pronoun is used when speaking of God. The Greek Τριάδα is translated trinity. Not once is it used by the Apostles, nor of the OT writers. The OT is clear that ONE God was taught, then after the Apostles died He changed His mind? Mark 12:29 KJVS And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Zechariah 12:10 (KJV) 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. Who was pierced? Zechariah 14:9 (NKJV) 9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be- “The LORD is one,” And His name one. John 20:26-28 (KJV) 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TDdydYK_Myo.htmlsi=k3-9WWcYGCubdqMq
I have a question dear brothers and sisters. In the film The Chosen, there is a part there where Jesus says "I am The Law of Moses." What does that mean?
Jesus never says, "I am the Law of Moses." I assume it is some creative thinking from the Chosen to play on the seven "I am" statements of John. I assume they would be meaning that Jesus fulfills the Law of Moses.
The Trinity has pagan roots. Worshiping 3 sepearte entities as God is literally polytheism. God commanded in the OT we shall not worship any Gods other than him. The Trinity doctrine was made by 3rd century Greeks on the order of the ex-pagan emporer Constantine.
Although i belong to NO religious denomination, ive been studying the main 3. Islam , christianity and judisism along side the Bible doctrines of the Jehovah's Witnesses. As time has gone on it is CLEAR as day to me now that the Jehovah's Witnesses have the correct understanding of the Bible amd the true God himself Jehovah. Have they always had it right? No are but they have prohressed in the understanding of the Bible and have cleared all unclean pagan traditions and rituals from their religion.
Jesus was not created by God. He was with God from the beginning. That means he is not affected by time, space or matter. That means he is GOD because he is eternal. He is not a creation.
When David was promised a son, who would turn out to be Jesus, he wasn't being told of a being then in existence. Rather, someone who would proceed out of his bowels (2 Samuel 7).
Wake up people. This is pure blasphemy. The only way that Jesus' crucifixion could "pay" for all the sins of the world, is if He is God. If He is just a man, then His death is only enough to save one person.
There is no verse that says Jesus needed to be God to pay for the sins of mankind. In fact, Hebrews 2:17 says quite the opposite, "he needed to be like his brothers in every respect...to wipe away the sins of the people." He needed to be a human to pay the sins of humanity.
@@biblicalunitarian I repeat, if Jesus was just a man. ONE perfect MAN, then the best He could offer was to pay for ONE other "man's" sins. Period. One for one. Jesus declared Himself equal to God because He WAS GOD. Therefore when Jesus died, His death was an INFINITE death, able to pay for every sin ever committed in the entirety of humanity. Why would you deny such an obvious truth? Why would you push such a lie? It makes no sense.
Just wanted to point out that when he showed the image John 20:28, in the corner it incorrectly showed John 10:28! Also, when Thomas said, “my lord and my god”; ALL punctuation is supplied by the translator! Modern punctuation DIDN’T exist in Ancient Greek OR Hebrew! It’s also equally possible that he said, “My Lord!!” and “My God!!” That makes a HUGE difference! ALSO, he DIDN’T immediately go down on his hands and knees in worship!
It amuses me how people try to use John to prove Jesus is not God. When John is the book that presents most strongly that Jesus is God. Right from the opening verse, Jesus (the Word) is God.
@@biblicalunitarian You made a point there that John 1:1 says the Jesus is divine and that Jesus is not God the Father. But Trinitarians agree with that. The point is, you believe that there is a created thing that is divine and have God-attributes. I think only God has God-attributes and therefore if John is saying the Word (Jesus) is divine (having God-attributes) - that's just to say Jesus is God in the fullest sense of being God.
it amuses me that you see John proving Jesus is God, when John is written addressing gnostic incursion. Read jn8:40 a few times. And then jn8:43 and apply that one to the pharisees saying Jesus existed before Abe. You are reading the book from a assumptive position you have been conditioned to understand, by religious tradition. An analytic read would see jn1:1 as speaking about what it says, that Gods word, the promise of redemption, has been there from the beginning. Its now recorded and printed in what most churchians cling to dearly and call "The word of God."
@@ken440 Gnostic belief denying the humanity of Jesus? That MAY be the case. John did affirm the humanity of Christ. But not just that, John affirmed Christ's DEITY. I accept these two sets of data (that Christ s was truly God and truly man), the unitarian just wants to accept one set (that Christ was truly human).
@@ken440 The Word, who was in the beginning with God and was God, and by whom all things were made, became flesh and dwelt among us. So saying Word only means God's "uttered speech or promise" is very poor analysis of the text. The Logos is clearly referring to Jesus. Only by strained and radical exegesis can you try to escape what John is saying. John is saying Jesus is God. Moreover in verse 18, John calls Jesus the Only Begotten God. Twice in the prologue John calls Jesus God.
He is not a false teacher. He is speaking the truth. Jesus is just came on the scene 2000. The earth is a billions year the Creator hath no bodily for He is immortal. His spirit hath made us and his breath given me life . A man can only be at one place at one time . But the spirit can . Only a few Kew the creator. Only a few will enter.
How it was explained to me was that it is something akin to the relationship between a King and his Crown Prince. The Prince is the heir to his father the king. The Prince can serve as regent and operates with the full authority of the King as the king sees fit but is still subordinate to the King and must answer to him. So the Father is God, Jesus is the Son who acts in according to the will of the Father with his authority and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father which moves and acts in us as an aid, a guide, and at times gives the authority necessary to perform miracles such as healing which can only be done through the Grace of God
Jesus never denied He was GOD. He AFFIRMED it. The Magi worshipped Him (Matthew 2:11) He ACCEPTED worship (Matthew 14:33 & 28:8-9, John 20:28). It's simply like this: Jesus was both GOD and man. Sometimes He spoke and acted as a man, dispaying perfect humility and obeisance to the Father; othertimes as GOD: preaching startling sermons, commanding nature, performing great miracles and Rising from the Dead. What did Jesus say to Satan during the Temptations? *"Thou shall not tempt the Lord thy GOD"* (Matthew 4:7) - He said it right to Satan's face. The Prophet *Isaiah* saw Jesus' GOD Nature 600 years before he was born (Isaiah 9:6-7). Jesus is the Old Testament GOD YHWH (Exodus 3:14, John 8:58-59)
manny so manny words you Spoke are treu and backed up with scripture brother . 🥲🖐️❤️📖📯Thank You Father in Heaven and Lord Jesus Lamb of God and Holy Spirit the Comforter for this Confirmation .
Jesus is God, do not be led astray Philippians 2:5-11. ~ Paul explains to the church that Jesus did not find it robbery to be equal with the Father, but chose to come down as a bondservant. Also Luke 4:41 ~ Jesus was healing many from divers diseases and many demons came out of these people, even the demons were afraid of Jesus knowing He was the Son of God. All throughout scripture of the N.T Jesus has done many miracles, a man does not have the ability to do that unless He was Holy and had the authority of God Himself. No man is sinless but Jesus, How would a man be born sinless and remain sinless? Yet even legion which means many demons were casted from a man by Jesus power and yet they begged Jesus to put them in swine because they didn’t want to be destroyed for ETERNITY, if Jesus was just a man the demons would not be so fearful. Only God has the ability. Also through scripture Jesus chose to forgive many who have sinned and also healed them. Luke 7:40-48 ~ Mark 2:7 (Pharisees knew that only God can forgive sin) Revelation 21:3-8 (God says He is the alpha and the omega, the first and the last) -> Revelation 22:12-16 (Jesus says He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last) ~ Why would Jesus claim that? Isaiah 44:6 (God says He is the first and the last and beside Him is no God) -> Revelation 1:17-18 (Jesus makes that same statement, after He was resurrected, aren’t you going to believe the man who resurrected after being clinically dead 3 DAYS) Isaiah 41:4 (not the only scriptures where God says He is the first and the last and yet Jesus said that’s who He is) Revelation 2:8 (says He is the the first and the last again) Isaiah 42:8 (He said He will not give His glory to any other) -> John 16:14-16 ( Jesus claims that God will glorify Him; DEFINITION of Glorify is To give glory, honor, or High praise to. He also said all things the father has are His and even said that the people would not see Him because He was going back to the Father) Isaiah 43:10-13 (God said that before Him was there no other God formed and neither shall there be after Him which states God has just always been. He also said that beside Him is not savior, and before the day was, God was always there) -> John 3:16-17 (God sent His ONLY Begotten; DEFINITION of Begotten is naturally exists, so Jesus wasn’t just created by God so it’s His son, no Jesus already existed before He came to Heaven that’s another reason why it says Jesus was SENT so through HIM we would be SAVED, If God said there is no savior beside Him then what would that make Jesus… GOD) -> 2 Peter 3:18 (Peter says that Jesus is our LORD & SAVIOR and then says glory goes to Him both now and FOREVER) all over scripture it says Jesus is our lord and savior, that can’t be hidden we know this. John 14:6 (Jesus says He is the way the truth and the life, no man cometh to the father but through Him, why would Jesus just call Him the father if He wasn’t apart of the GodHead? Wouldn’t He just call Him God? Yet again He does say that neither does He or the angels know when the time of the end shall come but the Father, but He also was limited to a human beings body and yet wasn’t fully God, He came to not receive praise from men but to give praise all to the father because yet again Jesus was half man. John 14-19 1 Timothy 16-17 Also read John 4 (Talks about the woman at the well)
If Jesus says that no one is good except for God, and if it's true that Jesus is not God, then you have to conclude that either Jesus is not good, making Him sinful, or Jesus is good despite being not being God, making Him wrong.
That's a good thought. However, when Jesus said, "No one is good but God alone," (Mark 10:18) I don't think that means that all other beings are sinners. But that there is a sense in which the "goodness" of God exceeds all other beings. We know this because in that framework, you would then have to say that all angels are sinners, because only God is "good." Thus, I don't think we should understand "good" to mean sinless, and therefore, all other beings in the universe are sinners.
That's a great question that the text doesn't directly answer, however, I think from scripture, some things that would make the Father greater than the Son, is that the Father created the Son (Matt. 1:18), and all things (Gen. 1:1), the Father did miracles through the Son (Acts 2:22), the Father gave the Son authority (Matt. 28:18), and Jesus had to grow in wisdom (Luke 2:52), yet, the Father doesn't grow in wisdom, he has all wisdom (Psa. 147:5). So, I think in these ways, and others, the goodness of the Father exceeds the goodness of the Son.
@@biblicalunitarian I'm glad you brought those things up. There were multiple points in the video that I thought would be explained with properly understanding Jesus's existence as a human. Philippians 2:6-7 explains it like this, "...Who, though He (Jesus) was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied Himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men." Here we see Paul describing Jesus's becoming human as an intentional and willing choice, not merely a creation by the Father as you seem to suggest. Furthermore, it is this emptying Himself and setting aside the form of God and taking on the form of a servant that resulted in many of your objections as to why He had to be given things from the Father, such as life, wisdom, and authority. Servants don't have those in themselves, and Jesus was here as a servant, not His rightful form like that of the Father, which is God.
The problem with this doctrine is that, the Bible is open for interpretation. Most of the doctrine points to a trinitarian set of belief as Jesus is seen even in the old testament as "Angel of God, YHWH(that David saw) and John 1:1"
I believe in their day in their society, they understood the relevance/authority in the fathers name, so by claiming to be the Son of God, he was claiming divinity by inheritance.
I appreciate your comment however, "son of God" was a common title given to anything that was created by God. That is why Adam, angels and Jesus were all called sons of God, yet, clearly this does not make them equally "divine" as God.
It’s so sad the confusion people have with this subject. I am constantly asked: Where does Jesus himself say: I am God? To which, I ask…Where does Jesus himself say: I am not God? The answer to BOTH questions is NOWHERE. So we study scripture and context to figure this out. We know the Father is God. We also know Jesus is called God in many places. We know the Spirit is called God in Acts 5. We also know in John 5:22 that the Father has given all authority to judge to Jesus. In Revelation 22:12, Jesus is speaking. He continues to speak in verse 13: “I am Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Jesus is God. Jesus isn’t the Father. He is the second in the godhead: completely equal in divinity.
@@christophercano4809 yes, because positionally, the Father IS greater, just like a BOSS is greater than an employee, in POSITION…not in BEING. The Boss and employee are EQUAL IN BEING: HUMAN. The Father, Son, and Spirit are DIFFERENT in POSITION, NOT in BEING…
@@edensessentialsnaturalwell8564 Let's follow your analogy to its logical conclusion. What makes the boss "greater in position" than an employee? I think the answer is more power, so is the father more powerful than the son? Which is what it seems if you read the bible.
@@christophercano4809 it’s unfortunate that you can’t grasp it. And I can’t help that. The Bible is absolutely clear that the Father, Son, and Spirit are God. I’m not here to argue. I just share the facts. And the fact is Jesus is equal in divinity along with the Father and Spirit.
@@edensessentialsnaturalwell8564 Just admit that you used an extremely flawed analogy. Because if you follow the logical conclusion of your analogy, it concludes that the father has more power than the son. Maybe try using another analogy, but give it more thought next time. Although, to be honest, whenever a Christian tries to use analogies to explain the trinity, they always fall into a heresy, so you might as well not even try.
The reason as to why he denied it has to do with the fact that people equated Him and His Teachings as following their own words rather than the will of God, the Father. He said that because He took on human flesh and human flesh was sadly made evil after the Fall of mankind. He says only God is good not because He wasn't God but because He also had a human nature. So case in point, yes, Yeshua IS YHWH.
Actually the Apostle John, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, is the one who interpreted Jesus saying that God was his Father to mean that he was implying that he was equal to God. John 5:18 KJVS Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. However it is valid to point out that every thing he has is from the Father.
I don’t see the Jews as actually thinking Jesus claimed to “be” God, but rather meant that claims of Jesus being “the son” put him “equal” with God in a representative way, as an heir. And scripture states we are “joint heirs” with Christ. So sonship itself does denote a “level” of equality although it is most always also with a level of subordinance. So it is a little baffling to me Jesus would take issue with the suggestion he had a level of equality with God, since in fact he did not take issue with being “God’s son. Because, as said, I don’t think the Jews were ever saying he claimed to actually be God himself. I’m also a little baffled at Jesus’ asking why call me good, there is only one good-God. In scripture there are references good and righteous people existing. And in scripture Jesus is referred to as being “without sin.” In my mind that makes him “good.” I don’t find these verses as meaning Jesus is God, but that almost something is lost on them as they come across almost pointless unless you could say they were made for the sake of emphasizing some idea. Jesus does the will of his father according to scripture and Jesus seems to affirm this, yet he himself questions why he is called “good” all the while knowing who he is. It brings to question the level at which this human man actually was “sinless” and what the scriptures actually mean when they refer to him as without sin. Was this sinlessness a complete picture of him in all of his humanity or a reference to a man who was not guilty of the sins he was condemned for. Why does Jesus take issue with being called “good?” If in fact he was truly completely sinless, always doing the will of the Father.
@@krisrodrigues1 he was pointing out to the guy. Yes you’re right. I am good. Do you know why I am good because I am God that’s what he was trying to get the guy to see and he put a question form like all good teachers they take their disciples through a question so they can get to the answer themselves wasn’t questioning his own goodness because he was perfect. I don’t see why everybody can’t see that to me when I first read that scripture. It was so obvious he saying why are you calling me good God is good so therefore, I must be God, that’s what I see in that scripture therefore I believe in a trinity
I was Catholic born and raised. In my 30's I switched to Christianity baptized again. I've watched beliefs destroy this world and created wars over beliefs. Muslim, Judaism, Catholics and Christians have one thing in common. Their beliefs are fear based. If you don't believe this or that you won't go to heaven. It took years battling what is true. The western bible is not the most solid book. Many great things left out and misinterpreted on purpose. People Jesus is not God. He is his son. You don't have to go through Jesus to have God hear your prayers and go to heaven. Think about that.. Why would you have to go to confession at the Catholic church to have your prayers heard. Same instance. Fear based. God loves all of us and we don't have to have these little rules to have him love us. Your heart is being strangled believing otherwise. There is rules to life and that is to treat everyone with kindness. And we all have a price to pay for being hateful towards one another. Just thinking out loud...
I appreciate your gentle attitude toward all of this, if we can't peacefully have tough conversations with one another, we are missing the whole point of what it means to be Christian.
Jesus did not deny He is God, period. Nevertheless, He said in such a manner that only those whom the Father has chosen to reveal understood what He said and meant.
The trinity teaches the three persons of the Godhead are all moving and acting in agreement. The trinity does not teach the Father and the son are equal in authority. This is a strawman. The Son is submitted to the authority of the Father. John 5:18 supports the trinity.
Spirit & Truth brother! I prayed that God would remove all lie & preconceptions and give me His spirit and truth and He always showed me Bible scriptures that confirmed that Jesus is the son of God not God the son. He sits at the right hand of the Father. God is spirit, Jesus is a man born of the spirit.
