Early Access DOES Give an Unfair Advantage

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@Lonarra1 19 дней назад

It actually blows my mind how many people clicked on this video just to shill for Blizzard and criticize people for being "poor" just because they didn't want to purchase Early Access. Also, for anyone defending these advantages by saying they're "minor" or "not important by the time M+ releases", you're completely missing the point. Blizzard employees publicly stated across multiple interviews that there would be no major advantages during Early Access. They specifically said that Weekly Quests would be disabled, and many of them are still working. Whether or not you think Early Access is good, or if the advantages are significant, it doesn't change the fact that Blizzard employees lied when discussing this paid feature. That's disgusting, it deserves to be called out, and we as players should expect better communication from a billion dollar company.

@MrAlternateTheory 19 дней назад

Didn't the same thing happen with Diablo 4? I have Early access, though I am not a high end player nor am I likely to be able to dedicate any kind of time to chasing those advantages. Gamers sadly always miss the bigger picture. I was around when it was "who cares it's just Horse Armor it's not that big a deal" - to here we are today and gamers are well and truly used to being nickle and dimmed for bits and pieces of the game experience. Early access is just a continuation of that and I wish it would stop - but game-theory dooms us all.

@wiziek 19 дней назад

People are actually crazy fanboys who love to argue and offend people online even then they are wrong themselves. Just like at FF14, early access is tied to PREORDER AT LOWEST PRICE, GW2 doesn't have early access at all to most current expansions (already released this week) which also didn't have public testing other then press preview and weapon skills weekend that was public.

@FitMagic 19 дней назад

It's both good and bad. Good because you get to play your game much sooner, bad if this practice goes unchecked and gets to Diablo Immortal epic proportions of pay to play. Oh, and of course the benefits like leveling your character to level 80 much sooner as well, etc.

@wtbskilllololo 19 дней назад

Sadly i believe this is now going to be standard practice i think alot of people have bought the early access and they ll just milk it every single time.

@wtbskilllololo 19 дней назад

@@MrAlternateTheory That was even more dumb cause there was race for the first 1k players to hit max level to have their name engraved in the statue.No idea how they thought that out(yes i know whoever wanted to be part of the 1k probably preordered it but its another bait to do so).

@weilacadda9361 19 дней назад

it's a payd xpac with payed sub, early access should not even be a thing

@johnwarner4178 18 дней назад

@@weilacadda9361 it’s late access for people unwilling to pay, but of course early access sounds better from a marketing point

@user-ee7dy7bz2z 18 дней назад

With a cash shop. Don't forget with other micro transactions aka wow token

@Gamakatana 17 дней назад

Impressive how you managed to spell paid wrong in two different forms in the same phrase.

@Hunner826 16 дней назад

You're implying it's unfair to have early release based on it being a subscription based game, despite the additional fee for those who wanted early access..

@The_10th_Man 15 дней назад

When Microsoft takes over your game.

@nightc0red 20 дней назад

I want to be a fly on the wall on the 26th when the 70s are trying to quest in Warmode, and the 80s are waiting for them at the first place they phase and see one another.

@ValiantMikey 20 дней назад

Lmaoooo it's going to be awsome to bully some alliance fresh boosted 70s

@lib3rat3 19 дней назад

Oh man that's a great idea

@juwohn815 19 дней назад

But geared 70 will bonk any 80 cuz of scaling in wpvp lol

@nightc0red 19 дней назад

@@blobbylight9283 Yes, that's the obvious solution. Some won't, though.

@nightc0red 19 дней назад

@juwohn815 Will it? There have been plenty of times my friends have put 60s - geared or no - in the dirt, notably after they picked on one of us while we were leveling an alt. Blizzard's scaling doesn't always work as intended, especially when it comes to PvP.

@pasacz3749 18 дней назад

Very good point. Its not early access, its delayed access for people who don't want pay 90$. Its more like punishment for players. People who thinks its okay, are like trained dogs by blizzard.

@StanislavTsanev 17 дней назад

I don't see where the problem is ? I'm definitely not a rich guy,but I did pay those extra dollars and I don't regret it ! If you want something better,or in advance,you pay a but extra ! I don't see where the problem here is ? Maybe you should but early access next time too

@pasacz3749 17 дней назад

@@StanislavTsanev It's not about money, it's about dividing people into better and worse. In my opinion, games were meant to erase social differences and create a place where everyone should be equal. Early access ruined the nice experience of launching the expansion and starting the adventure with a group of friends. For example, a few people from our team played in early access but didn't have much fun because it's not fun playing solo. They even gave up on leveling and waiting for the rest of the team until "premiere". WE KNOW that in a close circle you can make an appointment and start together, but it's not the same when you are aware that you don't start like everyone else. The premiere of the expansion was on the 23rd, and the rest had delayed access as a punishment because they did not want to overpay. It's your money and you can do whatever you want with it. But with the "I don't see the problem" attitude, people like you push the Overton window. You can read about this here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window If consumers don't object, Blizzard will become greedier and greedier until WoW becomes unplayable.

@pasacz3749 17 дней назад

@@StanislavTsanev It's not about money, it's about dividing people into better and worse. In my opinion, games were meant to erase social differences and create a place where everyone should be equal. Early access ruined the nice experience of launching the expansion and starting the adventure with a group of friends. For example, a few people from our team played in early access but didn't have much fun because it's not fun play solo. They even gave up on leveling and are waiting for the rest of the team until "realease". WE KNOW that in a close circle you can make an appointment and start together, but it's not the same fun when you are aware that you don't start like everyone else. The premiere of the expansion was on the 23rd, and the rest had delayed access as a punishment because they did not want to overpay. People like you with an "I don't see the problem" attitude, push the OVERTON WINDOW. You can read about this at wikipedia. If consumers don't criticize a bad product, the company will become greedier and greedier until WoW becomes unplayable.

@pasacz3749 17 дней назад

@@StanislavTsanev @StanislavTsanev It's not about money, it's about dividing people into better and worse. In my opinion, games were meant to erase social differences and create a place where everyone should be equal. Early access ruined the nice experience of launching the expansion and starting the adventure with a group of friends. For example, a few people from our team played in early access but didn't have much fun because it's not fun play solo. They even gave up on leveling and are waiting for the rest of the team until "realease". WE KNOW that in a close circle you can make an appointment and start together, but it's not the same fun when you are aware that you don't start like everyone else. The premiere of the expansion was on the 23rd, and the rest had delayed access as a punishment because they did not want to overpay. People like you with an "I don't see the problem" attitude, push the OVERTON WINDOW. You can read about this at wikipedia. If consumers don't criticize a bad product, the company will become greedier and greedier until WoW becomes unplayable.

@Vrettian 16 дней назад

@StanislavTsanev how can you not comprehend it isn't early access. It's release access and if you don't pay the pay wall you get delayed access. How do you people not understand this

@francescogigli5844 17 дней назад

Really don't like that blizzard did this.. they've become so incredibly greedy.

@The_10th_Man 15 дней назад

It’s Microsoft. Blizzard is just a word now, it’s gone.

@Kemyo0 20 дней назад

people who only care about professions also are at an advantage - even if most of the playerbase don't minmax professions

@johnwarner4178 18 дней назад

@@Kemyo0 true, I have a dozen tailoring alts already cranking cooldowns I’ve made enough in a couple days to cover the cost of the epic edition. I guess the one benefit for people is material price may be down by Monday or it my spike again not sure

@AlmostMeantToBe 15 дней назад

This is the only valid critique. Everything else is literally whining. Market is technically time gated bc to max profit u need to be first. So it's a money loss. However if u just care about making the gear and making ur profession then it doesn't matter.

@katrinkarose175 18 дней назад

As someone who's spent a lot of time historically focused on goldmaking and professions the early access was always going to be unfair to those who didn't pay for it. The first days of an xpac have always been crazy opportunities for money makers and with the new professions giving people 4 days to get ahead is a massive advantage for anyone actually competing. I could have bought in, but $90 is just more than I want to pay for a game with a sub (and I've never been interested in the epic editions). But seeing others dive in without me has really really sucked. There is just NO way to let some people into the game and not others and really have the 4 days not make a difference in a game like this...

@Senen33 18 дней назад

For goldmaking people, the correct play was to buy the EA with tokens. Hardcore goldmakers would absolutely make their money back thanks to these additional 4 days. But people that just gather during leveling, sell it on day 1 and ride that money through the whole expansion? Yeah those probably got fucked. :/

@bigjollyeammon 20 дней назад

And with rep being warbound wide you can basically use these rep based items to gear up any alt you want to.

@Lonarra1 20 дней назад

Exactly, that's one of the reasons why rep farming is so helpful for gearing in this expansion.

@sagedygert6656 17 дней назад

You can't "rep farm" with early access, 50 rep from the WQ don't matter at all. You maybe at most will get like 1/5th if the way to another rep level at best. And the gear from the renown vendors, while good now. Are completely irrelevant the day that the raids drop and M0s coke out. Delve gear will be better. Its at best a convenience. It's not an advantage even in the slightest.

@landsraad9745 18 дней назад

I hate how I used to play a games new expansion, full of mystery and new experience.

@zugdigitalx 18 дней назад

It was for me, dont play beta and dont do spoilers duh

@johnwarner4178 19 дней назад

I will say realizing I can get delve keys on my level 71 alts by dojng the world quests changed my mind a bit. It had gone from minor to a HUGE advantage having early access and that’s bad terrible design

@clintdohrman8068 15 дней назад

Huh you didn't get a huge advantage you got terrible gear that people when the game dropped can also get that same terrible gear delves don't go past 3 for 3 weeks literally

@chuza_97 20 дней назад

Its not eraly access... its late acces to ppl that are "cheap" for buying the normal edition

@spongerobert 20 дней назад

I tried to be cheap but they got me with the tier system since I bought the cheap one early, then decided I want the crappy mount and then the last tier includes 30 day game time for only a bit more (going from tier 2 to tier 3) than regular 30 day game time in my area so it was a no brainer 😂

@johnwarner4178 20 дней назад

@@spongerobertexactly, if your going to get the middle on then you’re probably getting the highest one. I see people buying tier 1 or 3 almost never 2

@doenos 20 дней назад

@@spongerobertMcDonald’s is super known for that marketing strategy: using the medium size to upsell. They only offer the middle one to give us a percieved value and make the one tier above just a lil more expensive for a lot more gain, so you just spend those couple bucks more.

@wiziek 19 дней назад

It is delayed release for people that won't pay difference of multiple months subscribtion for 4 days of playing.

@HunterStorm2000 18 дней назад

Was just telling my buddy this. The real release is the “early” release, they just prolong it for people who didn’t pay extra dollars for an xpac

@Somnisawa 16 дней назад

And now they buffed dungeons so levelling is harder for the peasants. Blizz really wants people to regret not buying EA.

@AgonyVision 18 дней назад

as someone who only work the weekends, i only got the base game apon loging in on monday im going to be sad to see everyone at max lvl at the start of the expansion, im also poor and only spent 30$ for the expansion and keep my account off til i log in on monday cuz f them

@s.onevsone3638 18 дней назад

@lonarra1 They also made it available for people to spam BGs to obtain patterns for PvP crafting in early access. Making marketing unstable before launch with selling patterns or items you craft for pvp that scales in bg/arenas to item lvl 606 (Can inc with idols to 613), The patterns might be available to buy from vendor on launch.

@zugdigitalx 18 дней назад

Who cares, hinor gear is better anyways, just spam bgs

@s.onevsone3638 17 дней назад

@@zugdigitalx There is no honor gear til launch, i was just saying you can obtain the patterns only by BGs in early access getting pvp crafted pieces so early you will have a set before honor gear even comes out. And the honor is capped at 4k, it will be increase on launch to 15k. So i cant save honor unless i want to transfer it over to alts to save up honor. (the game takes 20% of the honor transfered)

@AwesomeKenneth240 18 дней назад

While I have enjoyed the early access. It feels like it is impossible to not give an advantage. I have collected tons of treasures for tailoring, piles of crafting mats, and other small things that no matter how people want to look at it put me ahead of anyone without EA.

@mathiassarvesh4884 17 дней назад

Well no shit it has its advantages. The fact that people think it isnt is mind blowing LOL

@yolulu 19 дней назад

I've been saying this since they announced EA, it's impossible to not give any advantage for people with EA in a MMORPG like World of Warcraft, and that's why EA doesn't work in Wow.

@vindmolle3903 20 дней назад

Yeah, I am super annoyed with this early access, in both my guilds 99% of everyone has the early access and are already leveled. So there goes leveling with guildies, also just super depressing to see everyone playing while I need to wait because I can't afford to buy the Epic edition which is almost double the price of base edition. Base edition with tax included is $73.44 CAD and the Epic edition with tax included is $129.94 CAD which is almost double the price of base edition. It comes with 30 days gametime and a pet, toy and hearthstone effect... so I get it, it has a bit more value but also the Early Access as well and that just bothers me that it's locked behind that paywall.

@TaurielWoW 20 дней назад

get over it. its been thing for 14 years for other games

@EmoDragracer 20 дней назад

Sounds like that's on your guild.

@doenos 20 дней назад

@@EmoDragracernice and easy of you to just shift the blame onto guildies, when blizzard divided the rich from the peasants. I mean , i know friends could have waited to level together. But as we see, you would just hold them back. I also let my friends have fun and enjoy the game, but im still feeling left out. Those feelings are not mutually exklusive. Especially since it isnt their fault.

@TheChristianWood 20 дней назад

@@doenos it is the his guildie's fault. People had months to save up for epic edition so overrall its the players fault LOL.

@wiziek 19 дней назад

@@EmoDragracer Troll it is up on blizzard including early access.

@S3Ri0usOG 18 дней назад

Early access was a bad idea since they announced it. Even if you couldn't do ANYTHING else other than leveling, it's still bad. First of all, global release people won't be able to level in war mode. Second, early access people will be able to jump straight into Heroics and get the better gear + vault while the rest will have to level and farm so they can do Heroics. And third, global release is MONDAY 1 AM, good luck doing all that at the start of a week when everyone is working. If they wanted that bullshit early access thing that much, it should be launched on a Tuesday and be strictly only questing for leveling, no professions, no renowns, no delv drops, no dungeon drops, main story and side quests only. Then they could do the global release on Friday so everyone can play, but i guess their crap servers can't do that.

@Rhordric 20 дней назад

I am an early access gamer but I wasn't expecting to cap during the early access period because I was assured there would be no need to. Even if not out of malice this is an issue

@Cabersview 18 дней назад

Blizzard lying again? Color me shocked

@moscanaveia 16 дней назад

I am not at all surprised. The progression mob is the most dedicated public and Blizzard puts an inordinate amount of effort to developing gameplay loops for that audience. Selling early access with advantages is an obvious step in milking that cash cow

@Grey-j6s 17 дней назад

Blizzard lied to us again? Shocker. lol

@pktrigger2873 19 дней назад

theres also the farming for items that are craft table. no way people don't make loads of gold.

@ROFT 18 дней назад

People have been making multiple millions.

@jonathanevans5568 18 дней назад

@@ROFTI second this as my professions are leatherworking and engineering I spent almost a milly on mats day 1… now I have one of my alts farming for ore and hides to recoup my losses lmao

@gureidens61 19 дней назад

EA just made my contempt with blizz grows.

@walle226 18 дней назад

Ofc its an advantage?! How can it not be an advantage, its pretty obvious, if you pay outrageous amount of money you get 1x reset of everything. "Reputation" and full gear before everyone else.

@ROFT 18 дней назад

As a gold maker who believed that there was no advantage I reckon I've missed out on millions. I still expect to make a lot, but the potential for me to set up and compete to sell things first in an equal market are non existent now. I've seen people talking about the price of things I'd hope to be close to first to market having crashed in price. You could say that the main wave of buyers is still to come, however people are already selling darkmoon decks which are for level 70s, so people will buy them to get to 80, and while I'm levelling my first character early access people will be restocking the AH over and over with profession tools, BOEs, etc.

@s.onevsone3638 18 дней назад

They changed Darkmoon Faire War within cards from level 70 to 80 yesterday patch. But you can purchase war within enchants for item lvl 450+ that gives main stat and dmg to enemies. which is nice for leveling. I do see the market going up once release happens.

@T.R.75 16 дней назад

theres also a boatload of gold to be made in this early access. so the rich get richer while the plebs wait around. its a disgusting money grab by Blizzard. if this was a f2p game id understand, its not, we pay for everything. its a huge L imo. i dont think Blizzard is really changing, theyre just changing a small bit gameplay/story wise. good vid.

@Stimbim 19 дней назад

Shit... game didn't even came out and its already late to star playing... I guess I'll just wait another expansion

@andrewmaughan1205 19 дней назад

Thanks for the information and advice on how to get better gear more easily. It's appreciated.

@Odyssey636 18 дней назад

Early access will always give u an advantage. Just logging in early is an advantage in an mmo. Idk why u thought otherwise😂

@Lonarra1 18 дней назад

The bigger issue, as I clearly stated in the video, is the contradiction between what was stated to be available during interviews, and what is actually available right now.

@MrPenguinsfan66 18 дней назад

It's more that blizzard doesn't have the integrity to not do trash like this. I didn't buy the expansion and only re subbed a week ago after being gone for a year. Not sure I'm going to. Blizzard's greed pisses me off.

@johnwarner4178 20 дней назад

I got EA assuming I’d make enough gold to cover it and I strongly think I wa correct with my tailor alts pumping already

@condotiero860 20 дней назад

i just kinda assumed it be this way. I didnt even read the post of bliz promising they try to make things fair. Thanks for the heads up. I guess, what was supposed to come with early access? lolipops and BJs? Edit: ohh, eww, its part of the epic edition, nah fam, im good.

@Lonarra1 20 дней назад

It's pitched as "mostly for leveling" in basically every interview.

@wiziek 19 дней назад

@@Lonarra1 That's is called "marketing" aka lying for you.

@ROFT 18 дней назад

@@wiziekthat doesn't add up. If they had said that there was a big advantage they would have had more sales with early access.

@rachelshepherd3624 18 дней назад

Trust is easy to lose. Very hard to get back. For some this will be enough to leave the game foreever. Not clever Blizzard.

@Lisasimpsonfan 20 дней назад

Being responsible with your money sucks. I was planning on buying early access but some surprise bills came up and we had to replace a TV earlier this month. I refuse to go into debt for WOW. Should have known Blizz would pull this after they said they wouldn't give advantages. I am a little salty.

@janthony8 18 дней назад

As a player who levels w warmode on i wont be able to do that this time because as we all know there will be lvl 80s flying around looking for low lvl players w warmode to farm honor. Sucks man but tbh if blizzard wants to really kill the game, theyre doing an amazing job

@Lonarra1 18 дней назад

It's actually even worse than you realize. The intro quest pins you under a pile of rocks, and during that time you're still killable in warmode. Tons of people are planning to camp the intro scenario on warmode.

@rowdyrager-9403 19 дней назад

Good for pointing it out. I shared to the discords im in whether people tune in or not.

@mrr0cksor669 16 дней назад

Carrot on a stick. With pay to win.

@johnwarner4178 18 дней назад

Even a slight gear advantage just extrapolates itself. If I have 570 and someone has 560 I probably get invited first. Now I get 580 gear so guess what I keep getting invited and keep getting further and further ahead. Late access is terrible design I’ll say it again and again

@edii3798 14 дней назад

it's just a scammy business model...i dont see the point of release an xpac delayed between players....it should be a Celebrations for everyone at the same time.....

@shadowweaver1599 15 дней назад

This is a muti million dollar/billon dollar corporation do you really expect them to tell you the truth or not do something slimey. I mean this isn't the first time blizzard has done something to upset the fan base. They can lie all they want but most people are not dumb. But people will still defend it because thats what they do.

@mg4mg281 17 дней назад

Money = despite the same motivation, a division occurs - which always worsens and degenerates reality.

@bigbassjonz 19 дней назад

SOD has been fun. I haven't played retail in 10 years and I have no idea wtf is going on, but I'm giving it a go.

@Iceberg-0 15 дней назад

This was the droplet that spilled the water for me. It feels insulting. And it's not like i can't afford 30 euros, or that i really care about the advantages, but it's just a sign of things to come. Same thing as mounts in the shop tbh, just go look on 2009 comments on wowhead, they literally were telling that if we allow these mounts to be sold on the shop then it will become the norm. I don't see how EA won't become a staple thing from now on. Who knows, maybe at some point there will crank it down even more. This annoyed me so much that i cancelled my sub. Keep in mind that i have never done that, not even in shadowlands. It's just a combination of things that ultimately made me feel like shit about wow. I know they have to make money but they are making huge bank already, lets not kid ourselves into feeling pity for blizz, it's not some indie developer that tries to incentivise someone to buy his game, this is pure "F U if you refuse to buy the epic edition". I don't even care about the advantages tbh, as i never go beyond 17 keys and don't mythic raid, it's the message they are sending that should make people worry. I am just not addicted enough at this point to keep justifying buying an expansion like it's some "free vs premium" option, It was fun while it lasted. Good luck with your channel harladan :D

@Kemyo0 20 дней назад

There are a lot of comment about people that are either very dumb or intentionally acting on bad faith and denying the obvious advantages you're getting from paying 40 more dollars to not get late access ; Everytime the guy makes sure to explain stuff thoroughly to make sure even the most clueless people can understand but i'm starting to feel like people aren't even able to follow a simple chain of thought. Harldan if you see this comment i recommend you don't spend more time reading and answering to moronic comments - all this sht does to us is costing time we could spend better elsewhere (whether on wow or something else) and tilt us from having to interact with monkeys

@Lonarra1 20 дней назад

I think videos like this end up reaching people well outside my audience who are just looking for reasons to shit on other humans. If something doesn't seem important to them, they think it's worthless and so is anyone who cares about said thing. It's a bit exhausting, but hey, they're boosting the engagement on my video, so there's a silver lining.

@TheAngelamongus 19 дней назад

@@Lonarra1 The same can be said to you. JUST because you view something as important doesn't mean it is. You said yourself Blizzard said IMPORTANT STUFF would be disabled. They did not leave specifics. So trying to find one key or clue in something that one person said somewhere to try to shit all over a company is nonsensical and diabolical. And it shows your alterier motives.

@Lonarra1 19 дней назад

It's spelled ulterior motives, actually. Also, you can literally see clips from interviews in this video where they state "weekly quests will be disabled", and yet multiple weekly quests are working. Unfortunately it seems your reading comprehension is as dogshit as your ability to spell.

@luftim 8 дней назад

worst decision i ever made was spend 90 euro on this.. It did not matter at all. season 1 does not start after 2 more weeks !.

@psykotedy4590 20 дней назад

Are the coffer keys warband currency or character-specific? I'm wondering if this is massively exploitable.

@Lonarra1 20 дней назад

They are not warbound, so no, you can't transfer them. If they were transferrable this actually wouldn't matter much, since you could just level additional characters and funnel the keys over to your main.

@hookshot320 19 дней назад

It sucks that there is really ANY kind of advantage for early access, but also, none of it will matter by the time we're through the first raid tier. Granted, that's a while away. I have early access, but I'm honestly just using the time to level my char and read all the quests. I'll get KSM and clear the raid on normal just to see it. I like to keep it chill.

@Lonarra1 19 дней назад

Sure, but that's like saying nothing we do right now will matter because the next expansion comes out in a few years. All of your achievements in WoW lose meaning over time, but what matters is that the gear advantages you gain right now will have a notable impact during Heroic Week in Nerub-ar Palace.

@edcaelum 18 дней назад

Yeah this sucks but I don't have 40 dollars extra to spend for the Epic Edition. I live in a 3rd World Country. 😂😂😂 Serves me right.

@josephpoole3942 18 дней назад

Maybe they baked in a catch up system so that you can never be behind on keys the way you now cant really fall behind on crest cap, or the bullion cap this last season. However i still havent forgotten the roadmap for season 4 where they blatantly lied and said all raids would be awakened 7 weeks into the season then just.. changed their minds with no explanations and basically flipped us the middle finger. They made it significantly more difficult to farm a lot of crests for alts in an already dead season that had to compete with mop remix and cata classic. They do not respect the average retail players time it seems and the frequency of lies lately is worrying.

@Tarat.-_ 16 дней назад

pretty nasty work to have a delayed, punishing release when the main source of borrowed power in the game is time gated bullshittery. renown is such a bad system, if i wanted to be a time gated garbage man i'd go to valley of the four winds

@basslove3961 16 дней назад

I didn’t even care about reputation, but people having a pve and pvp advantage by being 80 at LAUNCH really irks me. I get to be level 72 while people are walking around me at 80 with full honor gear sets already. Absolute shame

@DragonProtector 16 дней назад

Me - lv 70 and seeing only lv 80 allowed for dragonflight raids

@thayalol 19 дней назад

What are these weekly events you're talking about in the middle of the video (at 5:50 ish)? Any way to target/find those other than just running into them randomly? Are they locked behind sidequests? I got to 80 with the Azeroth Pilot Reloaded addon route (which is just the main quest + a bunch of extras here and there to stay on curve with area levels) but I haven't encountered any blue quests I don't think

@Lonarra1 19 дней назад

The one I mentioned is in Hallowfall, there's a marker on the northern part of the map that points it out.

@ninjathehuskey4373 17 дней назад

You have to finish the MSQ

@Eden_jasper 17 дней назад

With rep being warband shared, how have they balanced just redoing faction story quests as farming rep? Couldn’t i just redo the same story quests for those factions on a dozen characters, no gates or caps? Or do i misunderstand the time/rep exchange rate? It used to be doing story quests was the best rep source generally but it was limited by the number of quests, and repeatable quests and farming gave less per action

@Lonarra1 17 дней назад

They aren't mutually exclusive though? Just because you can get a ton of rep from sidequests (which you should be doing, obviously) doesn't mean world quests don't provide an additional considerable source of rep. I've fully completed every single side quest and killed every single rare and opened every single treasure; I'm only at ~10 Renown with all factions. World quests and other sources are required to progress further.

@XrystalBelle 19 дней назад

Thankfully I don’t worry about rep farming. I take my time levelling each character while working on professions. As an addon writer I rarely start playing before a month in anyway rofl

@TomBortels 20 дней назад

I think by "unfair advantage" Bliz meant "You'll be able to be more powerful than other players by dint of starting early WHEN SEASON 1 STARTS". Yes, non-collectors-edition players will have less time to prepare - but it can still be reasonably done. "advantage" != "unfair advantage". I will be very surprised if this makes a measurable difference in raid-worthiness.

@Lonarra1 20 дней назад

Well, it quite literally is a measurable difference, even if you may not think it’s to a significant enough degree to be worth caring about. At worst, they flat out lied, at best they were incredibly misleading.

@joeym3147 20 дней назад

@@Lonarra1 Na I feel like it's blown out of proportion like mad. Tommy didn't buy early access and is missing a few big pieces while Timmy did and has them. But Timmy does 5k st then Tommy doesn't seem that insane tbh

@Aldarion65 19 дней назад

@@joeym3147 why is it so hard to see that the point isnt if you are doing 10k more DPS or less its the fact that they lied, hell they could have just admitted everything and the same people would have still purchased it that already did, I would have had more respect for them if they would have just said this is what we are doing and deal with it than lying but oh well anyone that believes everything Blizzard says nowadays hasnt paid much attention to blizzards history

@joeym3147 19 дней назад

@@Aldarion65 unfair advantage is like you'd never be able to even match that person in output the entire expansion. That is literally not the case you can match that output given time. Hell even being just lucky rng is a bitch and we all know it

@Aldarion65 19 дней назад

@@joeym3147 what are you talking about unfair advantage is anything that is a advantage that another person didn't have access too, has nothing to do with how long it takes you to catch up, his problem is that Blizzard for sure lied about what you could and couldnt do during the early access I hate that they did early access just for the pure fact that I know how hard it was for my mom to come up with extra money for games when I was growing up and I know kids will feel like that they have to have the early access when they dont really need it and a lot of parents that know nothing about gaming wont realize that there was a cheaper way to get it

@MurdersFPV 17 дней назад

When Blizzard said, "Come raid day, you won't be able to tell who had early access and who didn't." they did not lie. But that's because we only raid "Try Hards".

@FearlessDemise 15 дней назад

You can also farm heroics and upgrade your gear to 590+ it won't be champion. I am 572 with early access and my guildie is 581

@Lonarra1 14 дней назад

Yea, I'm also 581, but that's not the point. Everything I discussed in this video is for pre-Heroic Raid Gearing, your gear at this exact ilvl is irrelevant.

@ChrisOnTheCoast 17 дней назад

you buy normal for $60 bucks, you will buy 1 month game time for 15. =$75. So youre either way going to spend $75... So for 15 more dollars you get early access, a free 70 boosted character (valued at $60) and youll get the month of game time in that purchase. So really, since you're already buying the game and gametime, whats an extra $15 to get ahead. 4 days of early access cost you $3.70/day if you just bought the game and 1 month of game time together. $15 more dollars to get far ahead and max out what you can before all the people get into the game

@Lonarra1 17 дней назад

I'm not trying to debate the merits/value of purchasing Early Access, at no point was that discussed during this video. My singular point is and has always been that Blizzard lied about what would be available during EA. I included multiple direct quotes from interviews where they said "X feature will be disabled", and yet it's working in EA. Whether you want to defend Early Access or not, it's pretty common sense that a billion dollar company should be truthful when marketing it.

@ChrisOnTheCoast 16 дней назад

@@Lonarra1 yea true, they always do weird cuts and cancelations when they say otherwise.

@forafewnightsout 18 дней назад

One world quest reset, bit more than 3 days is an advantage but not a serious one. I think have multiple max level characters is more intense. I have 3 already.

@CheddaFett 19 дней назад

I do not see how anyone thought that early access would not be an advantage. It is early access, its right in the name lol

@Lonarra1 19 дней назад

It obviously gives some advantages, but Blizzard specifically stated that certain activities would be gated, and they aren't.

@CheddaFett 19 дней назад

@@Lonarra1 Blizz lies all the time, i never trust Blizz. They are all about the money. Not saying it is right, it is disgusting but this is blizz and this blizz has been around and like this for over a decade now.

@CreationForce 20 дней назад

Ive spent over 5k on wow over my 10+ years playing. Ill spend another 5k over the next 10 years im sure. Ive got disposable income out tbe ass for games. Im not paying for early access because its bullshit

@netneo4038 20 дней назад

Yeah we shouldn't reinforce shit behaviour even if we can afford it for convenience ourselves. I salute you standing your ground.

@CreationForce 20 дней назад

@netneo4038 it'll never make a difference because people fall for FOMO every time but still

@Loyidus 20 дней назад

yes the same here....

@fallenleaf2721 20 дней назад

not really "fomo" considering i already have 3 80s and before it even starts for the majority, ill likely have atleast 10 chars ready to spam stuff. But to each their own

@ROFT 18 дней назад

@@CreationForcethe irony for me is that I looked up what FOMO meant a few days ago. I didn't have FOMO but boy did I AMO.

@hermit44 19 дней назад

Even if I had purchased this blatant cash-grab, I'd still be at a disadvantage because of a three day work trip from 23-26 XD. I'm glad I saved some money and didn't fall for Blizzards' shenanigans... some of us have other things to do as well, Blizzard!

@ninez5740 18 дней назад

I can’t even remember. I think you used to get a week of early access in xpacs past. My initial thoughts going into this one, and looking at the add was; the mount and pet look like shit for a new xpac compared to previous expansions. So I was already on the lowest tier in my thinking. I didn’t care. Then I was thinking, why don’t they just give everybody ALL the things that you would get from the highest tier? Some people just don’t care about mounts and pets. But, I did it anyways for early access. I think that’s where people’s minds go. I think in the grand scheme of things, there is so much sh-tuff to do, it just levels the playing field. It all comes down to raids and if I’m going to be able to group and get that drop I need. However, I think that players who have been around and support the game should be rewarded, going into a new expansion. But, I think you bring up fine points.

@RexxReviews 19 дней назад

If people couldn't figure out that early access would give some sort of advantage regardless of what blizzard stated that on them.

@Lonarra1 19 дней назад

So we're victim blaming now?

@ROFT 18 дней назад

⛽️💡

@tearren1 20 дней назад

Well, early access in combination with a ‘starting’ quest chain in old content, that has to be completed before beginning the new expansion, did seem to stagger players when they were able to get to the new content. This staggering did seem to help the servers, i had no issues with server stability when playing, unlike dragon flight. I couldnt even play new content at launch with dragonflight, and had to wait til the next day to play.

@Lonarra1 20 дней назад

I've said this in a few other comments, but I agree that the reduction of players overloading the servers is a good thing. In theory, that's one of the major advantages of early access. That doesn't change the fact that Blizzard lied about what was available and what wasn't. That's still a problem and needs to be called out.

@Lil_Dysto 20 дней назад

Blizzard really adopted the "If you broke just say so" attitude lol. As someone who can't afford epic edition I really am getting annoyed by the sheer amount of stuff people that do have it can do. Have fun and level alts my arse. Not to mention by the time we arrive on the 26th, prices of materials (mainly cloth, herbs and ores) will have already dropped massively (even with the 26th spike it wont be anything like it is now), so there goes my plan to do herb/mining on my alts. Gotta love EA, can't wait for it to be like this from now on. Truly disgraceful.

@john8298 18 дней назад

Early access is always an advantage. Blizzard, as usual. Screwed it up. But as a casual player, I am LOVING the lack of massive crowds of players all trying to get the same quest done at the same time resulting in blatantly screwing others over. Even the bottleneck quests are easier to complete. Early access is worth it just for that.

@DragonProtector 16 дней назад

I bought the early access but never played it yet

@TheRealDigitalDecaf 20 дней назад

ok wait a second 1. It was common knowledge that you would be able to start grinding rep and that there would be gear rewards at some point along the tracks. 2. No one and nowhere that I saw ever thought world quests wouldn't be active, and even so, the big ones don't even give you their good rewards till global launch like the delve keys and epic caches. Rep gain so far is extremely limited and even casuals will be able to catch up with whatever we get in these first few days easily before any meaningful content is released (m+ and raids), even if someone decides to do all the world quests with a contract on. I was going to go on explaining how someone thinking there is any meaningful extra player power so far would be wrong but it's not worth it, because this title is in fact click bait.

@netneo4038 20 дней назад

@TheRealDigitalDecaf maybe watch the video before you defend blizzard and look like a tool 🤣

@TheRealDigitalDecaf 20 дней назад

@@netneo4038 I did, and I have multiple 80's that are pretty much gear capped already, and have a pretty good perspective on what is possible now and what is going to be possible before M+ and mythic raid, so if you take it back to the original point of *meaningful* character power, my point stands

@Lonarra1 20 дней назад

Define "pretty much gear capped".

@Tihomir21 20 дней назад

Ppl farming 500k/ G/h on first day that Not advantage? lol

@nbkw48 20 дней назад

How on earth are people farming 500k / hour??? Herbalism?

@Tihomir21 19 дней назад

@@nbkw48 ITS SAME evRY eXP Its Cloth and Darkmoon Deck But ITS hOT ON FIRST DAY AFTER IT DROPS LIKE 200K WHEN eARLY aSSCES COMES IT WILL DROP LIKE 50K MAYBE LOWER XD

@antagonisticapple9466 19 дней назад

The fact you think Blizz lied illustrates you haven't been with this franchise since the beginning. It is FAR more likely this is nothing more than debilitating levels of incompetence.

@Lonarra1 19 дней назад

Just for the record, I've been playing since 2005. While it's entirely possible you're correct that they didn't lie out of malice, it doesn't change the fact that what they said was wrong.

@wiziek 19 дней назад

Uhm what? So they are lying while accidentaly making profit?

@antagonisticapple9466 19 дней назад

@@wiziek Uhm what indeed, I have no idea what you are asking. It sounds like you think the dev team overlooking something, which they do all the time, is somehow mutually inclusive of the companies ability to generate revenue, which... no. Also, them coming out and saying "there are meaningful power-related benefits to buying early access" would sell more higher-cost packages, not less lol

@OLBarbok 20 дней назад

Of course it does "Early access"(poor people late access) ruined gold making on a new expansion for everybody who isnt a sheep and obviously other stuff will be just as affected.

@EmoDragracer 20 дней назад

Ruined gold making. You mean; what happens anyway the first week of every expansion ever? Come on dude.

@ROFT 18 дней назад

@@EmoDragracerthis is before the first week....

@malheirosrl 20 дней назад

You're missing the point. Adventurer 4/8 dropped from M0 and Veteran 1/8 bought from reputation vendors are only 4 item levels apart. 593 to 597. As M0 is a source of Carved Harbinger Crest we will not have a source of Runed Harbinger Crest until Season 1 starts. Everyone item level, rich or poor, will be capped at 606. Veteran 8/8 or Champion 4/8; And even if the crest cap doesn't allow to upgrade to 606. Those 4 item levels will be meaningless once Season 1 starts. All of them will be trash.

@Lonarra1 20 дней назад

You and I have a very different idea of meaningless. Sure, 4 item levels on a singular piece of gear may not seem like much, but 4 item levels overall can actually be rather significant. If you're looking to clear AotC on week 1, that very well could mean the difference between getting or the kill or not. We have no way of knowing, and obviously it's better to be safe than sorry. None of this changes the entire point of my video, which isn't that the advantage is EXTREMELY large, it's that there is an advantage PERIOD. Blizzard stated in multiple interviews that Early Access wouldn't provide any advantage. It doesn't matter if you're getting a 1 item level advantage or a 10 item level advantage, it wasn't supposed to exist in the first place. So, no, you're actually the person missing the point here.

@GamingGridOfficial 17 дней назад

@@Lonarra1I’m not usually one to get into online debates but early access already was an advantage even if it was just levels this whole video just seems like you looking for a reason to complain about anything. Feels like a lot of people are reaching for something to be mad about

@CedricDur 18 дней назад

I don't get who are you advocating for. Anyone 'hardcore' will have bought the early access. The casuals will not. The ones who care are in. The ones who do not care are not. The ones who care will farm for 24 hours without sleeping. The ones who don't care will play their 3-5 hours then go sleep. The casuals (myself included) will always be behind if for no other reason we won't play for 24 hours, or spam all dungeons all day, or run an army of alts to funnel resources to the main. That said it's shitty to pay 15€ for three days early on a paid game with a paid expansion and a paid sub. But Blizz is a small indie company and needs to squeeze every dime.

@thelastspectre8141 16 дней назад

Welcome to the world of pay to win gaming. That being said 3 day isnt a whole lot of time for people with families and jobs they didn't take time off to play and 24 hours with an energy drink iv drip system set up to pull all nighters. People with responsibilities other then wow how often do you play on average a day? This only matters to the top 3% try hards. As for blizzard if i were to spend double for early access it better be worth it other wise no one would pay the cost of buying this expansion twice for 3 days of just lvling alts

@arashmollaeipour 18 дней назад

y everyone was angry about 90$ expansion but all them got it now :D ofc blizzard gives them advantage cuz they paid more :)

@DarkZeroUnit 18 дней назад

im on early access right now and got to rank 7 of dorn but i need resonece stuff to guy the gear

@vyniron3766 19 дней назад

Exposing blizzard for lying...nah, Guide on how to get my moneys worth with my EA

@joshpashia637 17 дней назад

The 10th is 493 mythic loot wont really matter at all. Im 470 right now and have 2 alts leveled but i mean its not really much of anything gained its more of now those toons kind of have to sit until its time for real content

@SouthernDrinkSlinger 20 дней назад

Yep, i refuse to support it. I am paying for every expans AND Im paying a monthly sub, yet I still cant play the content with my friends. It is infuriating and only makes me want to quit the game all together. Whats sad though? I am the minority. Out of the two different guild groups im in, only me and 3 other people in total didnt get the epic. thats 40ish players who did, 4 that didnt. On top of that, I'm still going to play. I already pre-ordered the game & have an active 6-month sub. So Blizz does not suffer at all for how theyre treating their subscribers. In fact, they benefit from lining the shareholders pockets as well as ease the load on the servers breaking it into 2 seperate launch days. I only see it getting worse. The was not an early access. It was launch and punish those who refuse to pay. They even disabled s4 content yesterday. They say it was a bug & fixed it today, but was it? Or did they really want to FOMO those who couldnt play at all into going ahead & getting the early access? I would bet a good sum it was the latter. People log on, cant play s4 content at all, well I guess I need to go ahead and buy the EA, then blizz saves face a day later with "sorry our bad, it was a bug & not intended." They have forever put a bad taste in my mouth with this pay to pay to pay to play nonsense!

@Sheriff_K 19 дней назад

Isn’t there renown caps and/or catch-up mechanics though? Will it even matter?

@Lonarra1 19 дней назад

It will matter for early gearing pre-raid and during Heroic week.

@plagueburial 17 дней назад

Even with contracts (240k gold on my server btw), and grinding, there aren't enough WQs to get that high in the renown track. You'd have to farm chests and rares daily, and none of that is going to matter as of today. The ilvl gear I got aside from two pieces over the entire course of the early access is completely void once I do heroics today, and heroics today are also lower than heroics in September. I'm not defending paid early access, it's dog shit and shouldn't exist. The only positive is that the questing areas won't be as crowded for the people who didn't buy it. I'm not saying your video is clickbait, but to everyone who didn't buy early access: you didn't miss much.

@Lonarra1 17 дней назад

Not sure what you're referring to, the lowest renown gear is 584, which is better than Heroic dungeons even after they get buffed in a few weeks. Myself and all of my guildies already have all of these pieces. The Champion items require an even higher renown level, and given another ~2 weeks to farm rep it should barely be attainable.

@plagueburial 16 дней назад

@@Lonarra1 what I'm saying is 3 days was not enough to give you an actual advantage, you might have all 4 of those pieces right now, but everyone who didn't get in early will also have them by the time everything opens in two weeks. There aren't enough resets and things to do to rep up enough for there to be a large gap.

@Lonarra1 15 дней назад

@@plagueburial There are, though. Anyone who missed out on Early Access lost ~2 full renown levels with every single faction (minus maybe Severed Threads since their WQs were disabled). The vast majority of rares give weekly rep, which you were able to get during Early Access, and most WQs reset around the same time on Tuesday. In theory, a non-EA player could level to max, kill every single rare, do every single weekly, do every single WQ, etc, all in the 16 hour period before Tuesday. But that's extremely impractical when EA players had 4 days to accomplish the same thing, and there are still multiple world quests that expired before the official launch. As it stands, reaching the levels to obtain Champion gear before the raid releases will be extremely difficult. If it is possible, there is a good chance it is only doable with the extra rep from Early Access.

@krystelbeaulieu-thibault3621 17 дней назад

They seem to have removed world quests since then

@Lonarra1 17 дней назад

No? World quests are still working.

@spudbencer7179 18 дней назад

Good thing I'll never get beyond Renown 7 for any of the factions same as in all previous expansions LMAO because I cba renown farming. Well maybe on one character just because I wanna do all quests on one you know. But definitely, definitely not on alts. Nope. I have a job XD

@bradlyarmas3041 4 дня назад

i dont see the problem with any of this OMG some people are geared and reped out and 80 before me. its just a video game people

@Lonarra1 4 дня назад

The problem isn't the advantage itself, the problem is the billion dollar company saying flat out lies during interviews to mislead customers. Video game or not, that's still an unethical thing for a business to be doing.

@oskartu12 20 дней назад

Literally small indie company.

@GuruGodPlays 18 дней назад

Min maxxing wasn't in their mind when they made those claims 🤣🤣🤣

@demonalpaka7558 19 дней назад

Warband rep... So you can max out all of it by leveling alts no?

@Lonarra1 19 дней назад

No, rep sources are all once per warband.

@marrokklongfall1116 18 дней назад

F early access

@WayneRogersOutdoors 20 дней назад

Did you just for real say that world quest would not be available to people who don’t have early access? Because the only people playing the expansion are the ones who have early access? It’s not like there are people who don’t have early access running around in the new expansion. The world quests will not be available for people who do not have early access because the entire expansion is not available for people that do not have early access.

@Lonarra1 20 дней назад

I have literally no idea what you're trying to ask. Can you rephrase your question?

@ch.kv. 20 дней назад

You missed the point. The expiry timer on the current batch of bi-weekly world quests will end before regular launch.. So non-ea can't catch up on those quests/reps on the 26th - as those quests will have expired, and been replaced with new world quests. All the rep that is awarded from this first set of bi-weekly wq's, is not and won't be available for non-ea players to catch up on. That's a disadvantage.

@khayla8592 19 дней назад

Let’s not pretend like this is something new, wow has always been P2W since they added the wow token, you can buy a boost for everting ingame. Still no one will be able to get to renown 20 or even renown 15 until the raid comes out. So that entire first part of the video is completely irrelevant. You have a point when it comes to coffee keys even tho these are in theory infinitely farmable once you complete the delve season, you can only complete 4 bountiful delves per day. Mythic guilds have been talking about this for weeks since you can farm about 4 keys per week so it’s 12 keys without early access and now it’s 13 in early access this still means a really really small potential difference of 13 ilvls on ONE piece of gear. Also you can of course get gear in slots that already are 597 bountiful delve gear which is not that unlikely to get the same slot after 13 tries. So yea gearingwise it won’t make a difference at all. The only advantage is being able to lvl a lot of characters in advance.

@Lonarra1 19 дней назад

Just because it's nothing new doesn't mean we should suddenly stop calling it out.

@yolulu 19 дней назад

When Normal/Heroic raid launches there will be EA players gatekeeping non-EA players in PUGs because of the difference in ilvl, mark my words.

@Stimbim 19 дней назад

finally an ultimate way of filtering out non-comitted players, get rekt broke-boys (sarcasm obv)

@mizzymk1475 17 дней назад

Thanks Blizzard

@SoLongSerenade 19 дней назад

I get ya, but its limited to 4 keys. not that bad

@miniland 18 дней назад

Yea and all this your talking about, are the sweats and streamers who spent 18+h a day playing....... all of this "You will get this with pre-acess" before everyone else wont affect 95% of the player base, because they dont spend 18h a day playing.

@Lonarra1 18 дней назад

Most of the advantages I discussed involve world quests that can be completed in minutes. You don't need to play for 18+ hours to take advantage of them.

@nono7105 19 дней назад

I do not give a shit about any of this. Early access is still stupid though. Presumably there is some advantage to spacing out access, from a technical point of view. But early access is still stupid.

@knappieboy 19 дней назад

Its actually insane value, all 35 of my 70's are in the new Hub starting their rested exp AND have done the crafting order quest for the free bag of profession materials. Adventure mode is unlocked and steady flight is unlocked, all before the rest of the population even steps in TWW. That being said, i hope they never do this shit again.