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EASIEST Off Grid Solar Power System Battery Bank 

Martin Johnson - Off Grid Living
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This is the easiest off-grid solar power system battery bank we could find. We are doing the biggest upgrade to our off-grid solar system we have ever done. We are installing 8 Battle Born Batteries two Victron charge controllers and a new Victron battery monitor. This is a super-easy way to convert from lead-acid batteries to LiFePO4 batteries.
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@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving 3 года назад
☀️ *NEWEST UPGRADES TO OUR SYSTEM SEPTEMBER 2021* ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MeaANzjzwf0.html
@JourneyOnLife
@JourneyOnLife 3 года назад
This is seriously the BEST video on this topic I EVER saw : ) Great products. Super good simple explanation. Thank you. I am totally gonna start thinking about what I want to do for my house.
@DeepSnowRider
@DeepSnowRider 3 года назад
Wish you listed how much this upgrade costed you.
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving 3 года назад
Wow. Glad it was helpful.
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving 3 года назад
The prices are in the links in the description.
@brandonlacour1277
@brandonlacour1277 3 года назад
what are you gonna do with all your old components and batteries?
@fisherus
@fisherus 3 года назад
I want to give you a little advice on safety on your solar system for two reasons. One is, you aren't aware of them and the second is those folks watching how you do certain things are probably going to be making the same mistakes. Never connect your positive wires last on DC current but, connect the "Negative" wires after placing a 1 ohm resister between your hot negative ( battery or power side) and the negative you will be attaching it to. Make sure you touch both leads on the resister to both negative wires or terminals and then immediately connect the two. This will keep from blowing up electronic components inside of your charger and inverter. I'm sure you heard the pop sound when you connected the positive side of your battery bank. Additionally, use shrink tube on all wire terminal connections. The cable terminals on your batteries look terrible and will corrode without using it. You have way too much bare copper on your terminals exposed. Finally, you should have a PV disconnect switch on the outside of your solar shed to turn off your system in case of fire.
@gastongonzalez221
@gastongonzalez221 3 года назад
Great advice. It looks like there should be another fuse between the solar charge controller and main positive based on the amps the panels are pushing, right?
@kuhrd
@kuhrd 3 года назад
Using a precharge resistor is a very good idea and with most inverters and charge controllers is a requirement. As far as whether you connect positive or negative last or first does not matter since everything around the batteries is wood and non-conductive at the 24v he is dealing with here. The only time it is a good idea to connect the negative last when making a connection or disconnecting it first when breaking a connection is if the chassis of whatever you are working on is grounded to the negative cable so that if you are using a wrench it won't matter if you short it to the chassis. If the chassis is positively grounded which is still common in old tractors and some vehicles in countries outside of North America then the positive would be the best connection to make or break the circuit. Regarding the cable terminals, these crimps will be just fine, and since these batteries are in a shed protected from the elements they won't really corrode since they are lithium rather than lead-acid. At the most, he could apply a bit of dielectric grease as a barrier but it is never a good idea to heat shrink battery cables unless you are using it as a barrier to prevent short and then you should use clear heat shrink so you can see the connection since most heat shrink will hold in moisture making corrosion more likely. Having a PV disconnect is also a very good idea at both the array and in the shed.
@aqpham84
@aqpham84 3 года назад
Are you saying he should connect both negative leads to the resistor to complete the circuit then bypass the resistor by connecting the negative leads together? Just asking to learn.
@kuhrd
@kuhrd 3 года назад
@@aqpham84 Yes the resistor bridges the connection first and allows the capacitors in the charge controllers and inverter to charge up and equalize to the battery bank voltage more slowly which also dramatically reduces or in most cases eliminates the spark when you make the final connection. You can also buy DC isolation switches that have the precharge resistor built-in which is the preferred method since an isolation switch is a code requirement in the USA IIRC even if off-grid and just makes common sense in any semi-permanent install.
@johnb4183
@johnb4183 3 года назад
Craig Fisher Where are those batteries going to be after a moderate earthquake ?
@YDSTE
@YDSTE 3 года назад
For myself, someone who is just getting started in the world of solar/off-grid power/electrical systems, finding this video really helped me sort some things out. 100 Gold stars!
@skeeterburke
@skeeterburke 3 года назад
are you a fan of Cheap RV Living like me? I think his name is Bob? great channel. Subbed to this one, I'm always looking for good ideas
@JJHDZ68
@JJHDZ68 3 года назад
💯❌💯 👍👍 same here!
@nancyst.john-smith3891
@nancyst.john-smith3891 3 года назад
Look for Will Prowse’s Book, “Mobile Solar Power”. I bought the Kindle version for putting solar in my van. It’s very straight forward and a good reference for understanding what it all means and calculating your needs. Another Bob Wells Cheaprvliving channel nugget of knowledge. He has had Will Prowse on his channel.
@starkenterprises2371
@starkenterprises2371 Год назад
Bear in mind there were several mistakes in this build. Some worse than others. Read comments for list of improvements.
@hanguyen-fd5kc
@hanguyen-fd5kc 21 день назад
Martin, thanks for the clean, simplistic how-to blueprint! I've read lots of the comments of others (especially on safety and $$$), but I'll definitely be going back to this video as I get closer in...
@Xyz12391
@Xyz12391 2 года назад
It was nice to see how much power a generator provides versus the solar power setup. Many of us have used a generator and are planning a solar panel setup. Thanks for providing a reference point for what to expect.
@viktorkosenko2461
@viktorkosenko2461 3 года назад
good day. My name is Victor and I'm from Ukraine. I want to say that I liked the improved system. I respect people who strive for sustainable independence
@worldpresidentkongjakjaide1609
@worldpresidentkongjakjaide1609 3 года назад
Agree. Let's help everyone becomes sustainable independence. (I do it by living naturally and self-reliantly in my private 0.4-acre arable land, which is a size that each of all 8 billion humans can own if all arable land on earth is shared equally.)
@lobsterDan22
@lobsterDan22 2 года назад
What do you suggest? I am building a off grid house currently.
@BrokeBeardedGuy
@BrokeBeardedGuy 3 года назад
I find the comment section hilarious. Some people have no idea the cost and putting in on grid installations. I think you're doing an amazing job love the video
@TimYorty
@TimYorty 3 года назад
true - you need to remember you're building a small power generating station. You get what you pay for.
@theshmucky2956
@theshmucky2956 2 года назад
I have watched so many videos that just confused me even more... thank you for finally explaining the basics to set up a decent solar powered system!
@RyanJWassink
@RyanJWassink 2 года назад
Love it - I didn't notice anyone else mentioning strapping the batteries to the wall or putting a cover of some sort in front of the electric connections. Knowing my luck I'd walk in there with a shovel or something, spin around, short it out, and zap myself. I'd then jump 2' high and knock those batteries off the wall. Personally (not that anyone asked) I'd probably a shelf out of OSB that would go between each battery and then some threaded standoffs so that you could put a sheet of plexiglass in front of everything as a guard. Attach with thumbscrews so that it would come off quickly. As a middle school teacher I'm always thinking about what a typical 7th grader would do - and unfortunately "zap himself" is the first thing that came to mind :-) LOVE the video and the content! Just getting ready to start a solar cabin project.
@coolmugs-ke
@coolmugs-ke 3 года назад
really love how detailed and open he is, clean and slow explanation any one can learn from him even without prior experience
@QuantumBraced
@QuantumBraced 3 года назад
This is the most objective review I've ever seen, complete with wearing the merchandise of the company that sent all the stuff for free.
@kungfooed5999
@kungfooed5999 3 года назад
Honestly if they gave me that amount of free stuff, I would proudly display their gear as well lol.
@kungfooed5999
@kungfooed5999 3 года назад
1k a piece for the batteries :o
@christopher5194
@christopher5194 3 года назад
@@kungfooed5999 Yep, $11,000 for the system not including the solar panel frames and the 2/0 wiring (usually $1.75 per foot).
@Dustindoesitall
@Dustindoesitall 2 года назад
I enjoyed the video alot. The irony of being completely off grid and at the end pulling out the iphone with the fancy Bluetooth connected app was priceless. Poking all in good fun man this was great gave me alot of ideas for mine.
@bigcatfish5029
@bigcatfish5029 Год назад
THIS WOULD COST A FORTUNE
@offgridbydesign3826
@offgridbydesign3826 3 года назад
Great upgrades. A couple of safety suggestions. 1. Add a disconnect switch at your panels. 2. Add a disconnect switch at your batteries (this will also prevent sparking in the future if you have to disconnect or you can use a resistor to drain the capacitor in the batteries before connecting) 3. Add a lighting suppressor to system. 4. Add a grounding rod at panels 5. add a grou d to your generator. Great progress, keep it going.
@falcons5683
@falcons5683 3 года назад
Quit using the term "bad boy".
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 3 года назад
Good advice
@Nutzernameungueltig4
@Nutzernameungueltig4 3 года назад
...Don't use flammable plates to mount electric components on...
@ThePunkin04
@ThePunkin04 2 года назад
Why didn’t he heat shrink the cables
@Skashoon
@Skashoon 2 года назад
With all the money you’ve put into this, is it EMF protected?
@jasontilley4644
@jasontilley4644 3 года назад
Your solar setup is nice and tidy. That's probably my biggest issue with most solar installs. Cheers.
@hwangeva1464
@hwangeva1464 3 года назад
but i did not see the solar panel set up yet
@tonysmith26
@tonysmith26 3 года назад
That’s far from tidy with zero mechanical protection of cables and all cables devoid of support.
@theological7150
@theological7150 2 года назад
i really wish i understood this stuff better ..soon i will be homesteading and need tyo learn this stuff thank God for the internet and vids like this
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369
@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 2 года назад
HOWdy JOHNSONS, Thanks for the UPGRADE Video from Golf Cart batteries to BattleBorn Lithium batteries COOP ...
@johnstancliff7328
@johnstancliff7328 3 года назад
Martin, you should add a cut-off switch to your battery array. that way, if you ever have to change them out, they won't spark when you make-break the connection.
@luisderivas6005
@luisderivas6005 3 года назад
Yep, that's what Sally Safety says at 8:35. Also, Martin should do himself a favor and place shelves between each row on batteries. If a batt on the bottom row goes kaput, its going to be fun balancing 90lbs of batteries to pull it out.
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016 3 года назад
@@luisderivas6005 I don’t like the inverter buried where it can’t get air straight thru.
@orange11squares
@orange11squares 3 года назад
if one battery goes bad then all you have to do is remove the connection between that battery and the one along it connected in series with it. The current wont flow on 2 series batteries (one good and one bad) and you have 6 left. Shelves on each row is a good idea.
@normanjacques4092
@normanjacques4092 2 года назад
Thanks for dumbing it down for people like me when it comes to electricity 😁
@danford4986
@danford4986 5 месяцев назад
One thing he got right, although he didn't state it explicitly is his wiring the battery. He correctly connected the wires to OPPOSITE ends of the battery bank. Connecting to the same end of the bank will result in uneven battery wear. You got it right Martin.
@ChatGPT1111
@ChatGPT1111 3 года назад
I love my Battleborn Batteries and recently added 4 to my existing 10 AGM deep cycles which are now serving as my backup. They do come delivered with only a 30% long term storage charge level so you should charge them before use. Also, don’t forget the cutoff switches and fuses. I have fuses at the solar cells plus a lower level DC circuit breaker to save the fuses and the hassle of changing them.
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 3 года назад
I have 2100 AH in cell tower AGM batteries and a new set of 1600 AH in LiFeP04 batteries. Each has different charging requirements and both banks are isolated. I don't know how you switch your banks but my major improvement was to add a Blue Sea marine rotary selector switch that is sealed and spark less. The switch is rated 500 Amps continuous and you can select Bank 1 or Bank 2 or run them combined or switch the batteries off. The switch was $70 on eBay. You can tell the thing was built for serious Amps as the connection studs on the back are 1/2''-13. The smaller switches have 3/8 inch studs. I leave it on Bank 2, the AGM's, and its float charger. The lithium cells get a charge about once a month from their own charger when I run the Onan diesel gen set for 20 minutes. That $70 switch was dirt cheap in the scheme of things. It switches banks or disconnects in half a second. It might fit your situation. A hydraulic terminal crimper gets a lot of use here, too.
@greengooseman
@greengooseman 3 года назад
As much as I would have hated the labels being upside downon the batteries, the negative cable for the shunt would have been much closer. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
@stevenspencer9104
@stevenspencer9104 2 года назад
Brother I cannot tell you how much I appreciated that video. I am 65 and when solar power first came on the scene it was extremely complicated. It appears to me, if you have a few dollars to invest, You could slap this thing right together. And do you ever run air conditioning? It’s warm down here in South Louisiana.
@thewatchfuleyez123
@thewatchfuleyez123 2 года назад
Enjoyed the video. I got lost a few times so I will have to watch it a few more times. Wish I could afford what you have.
@Joakimny
@Joakimny 3 года назад
Just a tip, to avoid sparks, connect positive first, then the negative. When disconnecting take off the Negative first. The same goes for anything on DC power, otherwise 2 thumbs up.
@Hefek
@Hefek 3 года назад
The "positive first" rule applies to conecting and disconecting booster cables when jump starting the car. To avoid sparks NEAR THE BATTERY, you connect the negative clamp to car body or engine block and remember to always make and break connection at this (far from battery) point. This is to avoid ignition of hydrogen / oxygen mixture gassed out by battery when charged at high rate.
@hwangeva1464
@hwangeva1464 3 года назад
Sounds good suggetion
@tonysmith26
@tonysmith26 3 года назад
Or perhaps use proper circuit isolation? 🙄
@BEASTmodeontheRoad
@BEASTmodeontheRoad 2 года назад
@@Hefek its always think positive when working with power
@harrywynne2839
@harrywynne2839 2 года назад
Use a graphite carpenter pencil lead to charge the capacitors, takes a second, then there wont be any sparking.
@mccmike
@mccmike 3 года назад
I'm impressed at the simplicity of a great working system. The only thing I would have added is a disconnect to the panels so you don't have to shut the power off from the panels in an emergency.
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving 3 года назад
That would be good. I should do that.
@lydiaanderson9765
@lydiaanderson9765 3 года назад
@Mike How are you doing Hope we get to know each other with time and patience?
@afos3462
@afos3462 7 месяцев назад
Good to see you shop American made, all Patriots should do. Thats why I shop UK made equipment. Keep Safe you all (AFOS in the UK).
@nunyabusiness1499
@nunyabusiness1499 3 месяца назад
Illusion: It's American assembled. Battleborn buys cells from China and then assembles them in the US.
@gehadel-habta4829
@gehadel-habta4829 2 года назад
I Don't know who you are, but i really like your videos. Thank you so much for letting me follow you and not fell alone
@dreamingcode
@dreamingcode 3 года назад
I'm a complete novice when it comes to solar energy but I want to learn. This was a great video but I feel is for someone who already knows what he's doing.
@samarnold5952
@samarnold5952 3 года назад
Yeah, Me too. I was lost pretty quick.
@noneya3504
@noneya3504 3 года назад
Again, very nice setup. Just one step I would have taken. Your short negative wires have wire exposed between the lug and the coating. Always a good practice to use heat shrink or electrical tape to wrap the gap so there is no copper wire visible. Just for safety.
@patmccormack8135
@patmccormack8135 3 года назад
The Sigmaform heatshrink has meltable glue on the inside. Stops it sliding and acts to stop moisture.
@101markharris
@101markharris 2 года назад
What about the bare lugs ?
@silversponge4259
@silversponge4259 2 года назад
Your are living my dream life. Currently in the city and ready to get away from the craziness and be self sustainable. Congratulations to you and yours. I'm jealous!!
@WindwalkerHomestead
@WindwalkerHomestead Год назад
Nice looking setup. Battle Born. Simple, plug and play. You technically don't even have to have a lithium setting on your controller to use them. Ane...made right here!
@geradbruce7496
@geradbruce7496 3 года назад
Thanks, people trying to help you is helping everyone else.
@thelostarchivesserialvault5353
@thelostarchivesserialvault5353 3 года назад
Just a thought...Why not spray foam insulate the shed? If you mount a small solar panel on the shed roof you can use it to power a small heater fan in the shed. With a shed that small and IF the shed is sealed and insulated then it will easily keep that shed warm in the coldest temps. Have you considered installing a wi-fi cam in the shed? Also, so you don't have to go out to the panels to disconnect power there, you should consider installing a disconnect inside the shed. Would make your life easier for maintenance.
@MrSummitville
@MrSummitville 3 года назад
Solar Heat might be even more efficient vs Solar Panel. Snow coverage is an issue
@trojwarr1933
@trojwarr1933 2 года назад
You are an answer to my prayers!!! AWESOME VIDEO!!!
@kevkev5935
@kevkev5935 Год назад
This was awesome. I've been going down the rabbit hole off grid solar video binges as I'm planning on building a small 600W backup setup in my shed. We're in Central Texas and having gone through the freeze last year and a week without power, I want another power source as a 2nd backup along with the dual fuel generator. Y'all sold me on the Battle Born batteries. Those have some killer reviews and I love that they are American made. Here's to getting many years out of them. God bless.
@expatron
@expatron 2 месяца назад
Just an observation. The Battle Born batteries are designed and assembled in the U.S. However, various components are sourced elsewhere. The Battery Monitor System (BMS) is made in China, and I'm sure the actual 26650 battery cells are also Chinese. However the design and assembly are top-notch. Lots of thought went into this battery.
@donaldwelch4515
@donaldwelch4515 3 года назад
Enjoyed the video on your upgrade to your solar system. Lots of descriptions of each component. The one thing that you forgot to mention is the expense and what it would cost for each battery at $900 each and you were running eight of them. Total cost close to 10,000 dollars just in batteries. It would good to know what these items would cost us and not what you got them for for promoting Battle Born.
@BrainScrambler80
@BrainScrambler80 2 года назад
Also in saying that....If you replace these batteries every 10 years it would cost you 1000 dollars a year to run this system on the low end.
@Wayne-hs6gm
@Wayne-hs6gm 2 года назад
If it produces enough electricity. It could very well be a source of income of energy to sell back into the cities power grid. I mean spend 10,000 every 10 years and you may make more money back
@poppaluv
@poppaluv 2 года назад
Thank you! i wish stuff like that was mentioned up front
@jameseden9380
@jameseden9380 2 года назад
@Peter Evans a ten hour day that takes 3 days to recover from? Are you ok bud?
@jameseden9380
@jameseden9380 2 года назад
@Peter Evans why does it take you three days to recover? Are you broken?
@kencissel5663
@kencissel5663 3 года назад
Two things surprised me about your installation. One that you would just stack the batteries rather than make individual shelves for them, and second that you didn't install any kind of disconnect switch on the positive side of the battery harness. The large spark when you connected it showed very clearly the need for one. Other than that, a good install.
@soulwarrior7721
@soulwarrior7721 3 года назад
@Ken Cissel Im curious as to why he needs 2 charge controllers.
@rodneypearson5217
@rodneypearson5217 3 года назад
@@soulwarrior7721 Start watching at the 7:50 mark. They will be adding (added by now - see 17:00 mark) a smaller array to the system.
@Adenya_E
@Adenya_E 3 года назад
Why aren’t the batteries 🔋 connected in parallel?
@christopher5194
@christopher5194 3 года назад
@@Adenya_E The batteries are 12v. He needs 24v for the system and can accomplish this by connecting them in series rather than parallel.
@sichambers9011
@sichambers9011 3 года назад
@@Adenya_E They are in pairs connected in series. Each pair is connected in parallel
@user-fp7zh9ek9i
@user-fp7zh9ek9i 10 месяцев назад
i quit all the news..al the movies i-m watching only your channel..God bless you..wonderful family..greatings from Romania
@Willabeast
@Willabeast Месяц назад
watching this made me realise i had an app for my charge controller i have the same one!!! thankssss
@omadeitz3340
@omadeitz3340 3 года назад
You just saved us. We needed batteries for our rv home now we are just going g with. Battle born.
@mr.smiley4263
@mr.smiley4263 3 года назад
Looks good! Glad you got a sponsor to help you with your projects.
@brenathedadal9929
@brenathedadal9929 3 месяца назад
Satu mekanisme sistem tenaga Surya yg besar. Saya sangat menyukai video video anda, semoga diwaktu masa depan saya bisa membangun sistem ini untuk rumah keluarga besar kami...
@TheRetroStuffGuy
@TheRetroStuffGuy 2 года назад
Greetings from England! Very impressive setup! With extortionate energy bills now, this has given me food for thought, thank you!
@user-qo3uv7hw5k
@user-qo3uv7hw5k 3 месяца назад
what about the extortionate cost of lithium batteries?!
@donnawells2533
@donnawells2533 3 года назад
You did an A1 job on this video. The camera quality was excellent, great job.
@HARLINSVIKINGLIFELNC
@HARLINSVIKINGLIFELNC 3 года назад
Yeah!!!! Absolutely he did !!!
@DeathbringerDrago
@DeathbringerDrago 3 года назад
HES RICH DUDE He probably has a 30,000 dollar camera
@jansmit4628
@jansmit4628 3 года назад
Nice detail on positive and negative wire lengths to the 8 batteries which insures minimal wire impedance differences. Shrink tubing would finish each crimpconnection a little nicer and minimize short circuit accidents.
@martinestorm3772
@martinestorm3772 2 года назад
Exactly what I was thinking aswell! 😄
@starkenterprises2371
@starkenterprises2371 Год назад
A little grease under that shrink wrap as well. Many little things wrong in this set up, too many to list, read comments. Hope all goes well.
@nin1ten1do
@nin1ten1do 2 года назад
Nice, clean, simple powerwall.. with ez tool done.. with math... well this is one of best video about this topic.. :)
@morpheus8867
@morpheus8867 2 года назад
GREEEEAT WORK!! If you're have some money, then, this system is the right for you to be electricity independent!!
@fairrider3346
@fairrider3346 3 года назад
SOMEONE WON THE LOTTERY.
@vxnova1
@vxnova1 3 года назад
Or at least 10k
@monksapollo735
@monksapollo735 3 года назад
Nah it's a partnership video, he's just a scumbag who didnt disclose that.
@gug1970
@gug1970 3 года назад
@@monksapollo735 23:42 - the "Scumbag" ( really ? ) discloses just that.
@monksapollo735
@monksapollo735 3 года назад
@@gug1970 once is the video is over, pointless
@WFCinSC
@WFCinSC 3 года назад
@@gug1970 I agree with Monks Apollo, kind of scummy... stealing 25min of my life to find out the system only makes sense if someone else bought it for you... but still he does disclose it, just not in an upfront and forthright way. And now he has me disliking the video and commenting, both of which helps his metrics! This guy is better than a used car salesman, Shut Up and Take My Money!!
@pixiedust1329
@pixiedust1329 3 года назад
Just a thought you might want to but a safety strap to hold the batteries in place as a safety precaution. Its just a thought all in all it looks great...
@allan80supra
@allan80supra 3 года назад
THIS, or at least a 2x4 in front of each row, also as others have mentioned a circuit breaker on your solar panels, a battery disconnect switch and a pre-charge switch with a resistor inline for the inverter.
@MrGUYSTYLAZ
@MrGUYSTYLAZ 3 года назад
I was thinking this exact same thing as soon as I saw him stack them above head height without any straps, you certainly wouldn't want one or more of those falling on your head or foot.
@denisw398
@denisw398 3 года назад
Good observation I would add since batteries are not really intended to stack on their sides at least use some spacers at the front to compensate for the width of the battery clamp downs at the back. Will also improve airflow when they are heating due to high draw rates or for the battery warmer below in Winter!
@OntdraadSpeldInnen
@OntdraadSpeldInnen Год назад
It is always so funny, using short thick cables and using long distance thin cables. You waste a lot of power using long distance thin cables.
@davidbobo5517
@davidbobo5517 Год назад
i like how its all mounted so nice and clean on wood
@northidahodreaming5657
@northidahodreaming5657 3 года назад
Excellent video...very well produced and staged...you deserve more subscribers. I have six 24 volt Simpliphi lithium iron phosphate batteries (867 Amp hours at 24 volts) in my off grid system having upgraded from AGM batteries one year ago. My homestead is 18 miles from you, just north of Naples Idaho.
@darnellwatkins4031
@darnellwatkins4031 3 года назад
Dude, that's almost $8000.00 in batteries. That's insane! However, I love the setup. Great job!
@andrewswingler
@andrewswingler 3 года назад
@Mdnosliw Yeah these videos seem like a total infomercial for lithium. Lead has significantly better economics for off grid. Anyone who thinks the case for lithium is stronger for off grid solar is either lying or somewhat confused.
@pray4Liberals
@pray4Liberals 3 года назад
The batteries come free when you purchase an $8000 t-shirt!
@martinwinlow
@martinwinlow 3 года назад
@@andrewswingler Sorry, but *you* are very obviously the confused one, here! In the long term (if not in the short-term also, now) Li far outweighs lead in *every* way!
@andrewswingler
@andrewswingler 3 года назад
@@martinwinlow shall we debate the pros and cons with overall cost of ownership the ultimate decider? let’s start with the typical storage requirements for an off grid solar system. By all definitions a well designed system will perhaps store and release between 50 and 100 times the storage capacity of the battery bank annually. May we begin with the realization/acceptance that off grid solar does not inherently require high cycle life batteries?
@martinwinlow
@martinwinlow 3 года назад
@@andrewswingler There is only one *potential* downside of Li Vs lead and that is their propensity for thoroughly dying if mis-used - lead-acid being a lot more forgiving. A properly designed system using the right kit (such as showcased in this video) avoids 99% of that danger, however. I've been using Li batteries for 10+ years and lead-acid for 40 years before that. So, no debate necessary, thanks all the same!
@user-mf9cw6dz9b
@user-mf9cw6dz9b Месяц назад
Looks good , keep in mind Bluetooth has a limited distance abt 20ft, plus the shed will limit signal. Thanks for sharing
@jarrodlangford7692
@jarrodlangford7692 6 месяцев назад
Everyone is gonna need this soon, they just don't even realize.
@JCZ2601NL
@JCZ2601NL 3 года назад
🇳🇱NL.This was an instructive video regarding your live broadcast, which unfortunately I could not see directly because then it was night with us and at night I usually sleep I have seen the video partly I wish you good luck with the current system greetings from the Netherlands Hans.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🍀❤️
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving 3 года назад
Thanks. I should do a livestream in the morning here sometime.
@lydiaanderson9765
@lydiaanderson9765 3 года назад
@Hansmetcamper How are you doing Hope we get to know each other with time and patience?
@marvelaturraz5405
@marvelaturraz5405 3 года назад
"Bam!!" This guy's excited! So nice to see such enthusiasm over batteries!
@amishjim
@amishjim 3 года назад
Yea, one could say that he's charged up.
@mysilentprayersalways1913
@mysilentprayersalways1913 3 года назад
I have solar, so when the power goes out I will have light and heat. Winter in Iowa makes for cold bones with no power.
@tiorontoron7531
@tiorontoron7531 Год назад
this is the most American and positive channel i have watched, which is really refreshing. thanks for the videos, i have a new channel to binge. top notch stuff. proud to share a country with you all.
@offthegrid6276
@offthegrid6276 2 года назад
Just a little advise, always protect your battery string with a inline fuse connected at the positive battery terminal of your battery string to where it feeds your equipment, lacking that fuse at the battery terminal, you can have one heck of a explosion should there be downstream fault, ahead of your system fuse. Always protect at the source, then another downstream to protect equipment. Also the wiring for the batteries is terminated with terminals, not connectors, terminals terminate a connection to a device, connectors splice conductors to each other.
@danielsundberg1977
@danielsundberg1977 3 года назад
You should have an isolation switch/breaker on your positive lead, have it off when connecting leads and you will get no sparks!
@wendyking9759
@wendyking9759 3 года назад
Jm. Thanx
@MrSummitville
@MrSummitville 3 года назад
@@wendyking9759 NO! You will still get a very high inrush current, when using a switch. The spark is not the problem, the spark is the symptom of the problem = high inrush current Battle Born suggests using an Inrush Limiter.
@bryanminugh9680
@bryanminugh9680 3 года назад
The center straps (between the left and right batteries) are meant to have a fuse link, for fire prevention as the cells bridge internally at the end of their useable life.
@martin1500
@martin1500 3 года назад
@@bryanminugh9680 where can I find resources on such detailed information like this. I want to build my system right
@patmccormack8135
@patmccormack8135 3 года назад
@@martin1500 Me too..
@menorah7
@menorah7 3 года назад
Cool setup and upgrade just to let you know battleborn batteries are assembled in the United States but all their components are made in China!
@ckzckw
@ckzckw 2 года назад
This was really educational and so so helpful. You people in the USA are so lucky to be able to do this, I'm not yet on the property ladder here in good old Britain but the charge on those battle born batteries has me thinking of havin a set for downstairs and one for upstairs so I have a good charge up for our lovely rainy and mild weather. :) Im so here for when storage can be as advanced as mobile phones. I'm looking into the same for residential wind energy that would be perfect to hybridise for UK climate. Thanks again every thing was easy to understand the steps to set up.
@ronbinkc4625
@ronbinkc4625 2 года назад
Excellent show. Thanks from KC, MO
@johnrossman6679
@johnrossman6679 3 года назад
I would have used some electrical tape on the exposed portions of the copper wire. But I am impressed and happy that it works. :)
@CHIPMAN999
@CHIPMAN999 3 года назад
You should have insulated the wall behind this system. Also make sure you strap the battery to the wall, just in case someone runs into the shed :)
@matt1544zxc3
@matt1544zxc3 3 года назад
Or an earthquake. Few extra minutes getting it locked in would save lots of potential headaches later on.
@carlosrosalesrojas6788
@carlosrosalesrojas6788 2 года назад
Best video i have found online. Thanks man!
@obelsseton246
@obelsseton246 2 года назад
I was 5 minutes into the video and BAM, my finger chose the next solar system video in the search list. BAM
@daddouuuu
@daddouuuu 3 года назад
Amazing setup! To avoid sparks you can have a ON/OFF switch right after the batteries. It's also a great safety thing to have in case you need to disconnect quickly the power from the batteries to your system.
@hwangeva1464
@hwangeva1464 3 года назад
Sounds very useful suggestion,
@louiscirillo55
@louiscirillo55 2 года назад
I was going to say the same thing... a master disconnect is a great safety feature
@450kman
@450kman 2 года назад
Cheap resistor
@user-nd4oq4fx9v
@user-nd4oq4fx9v 2 года назад
And use a resistor e.g a 25W 30ohm for the 12V system thats a dollar or two on the -ve end for few seconds to charge up the capacitors. This will avoid the sudden surge that causes the spark. Saw it off Will Prowse videos.
@TheJessicaRoper
@TheJessicaRoper 2 года назад
Thanks for the advice! We are totally adding this to our system bc shutting it off to add on and whatnot is lengthy ATM.
@seymourscagnetti1413
@seymourscagnetti1413 3 года назад
I'M A HUGE "HOGAN'S HEROES" FAN. YOUR ELECTRIFIED FENCE LOOLS LIKE "STALAG 13". (BONUS TIP: COL. KLINK AND SGT. SCHULTZ STARTED WWII). CHEERS!
@canadacitypreppers
@canadacitypreppers 2 года назад
I got tons of sunlight during summer , a ton of batteries is what we need .. awesome!
@expatron
@expatron 2 месяца назад
Just an observation. The Battle Born batteries are designed and assembled in the U.S. However, various components are sourced elsewhere. The Battery Monitor System (BMS) is made in China, and I'm sure the actual 26650 battery cells are also Chinese. However the design and assembly are top-notch. Lots of thought went into this battery.
@jessyjohnson6220
@jessyjohnson6220 2 года назад
If I'm installing all of this electrical I would think putting more fireproof around everything would be more essential
@RandomPerson-sb5mw
@RandomPerson-sb5mw 3 года назад
That is a sweet setup! 10 -15 Grand? You might want to consider putting a disconnect switch on the batteries. Great job!
@hwangeva1464
@hwangeva1464 3 года назад
there is fuse i think,safety
@TerryCassar
@TerryCassar 2 года назад
Love the set up. Just be aware that lithium batteries operate completely different then AGM, Lead Acid etc. first rule of thumb is to fully charge the batteries individually. The reason is that they might be at different voltages. Lithium batteries don’t automatically balance themselves as do lead Acid batteries. Now if your batteries are not balanced within 0.2-0.3 of a volt of each other, the situation can snowball thus resulting in a severe in balance. If this happens whilst your using your inverter at full noise you can destroy one of your BMS units in one or more of your batteries. I’m not familiar with those batteries, wether they have some hidden BMS that balances all your batteries. I’m speaking for a general setup. Cheers
@V.Z.69
@V.Z.69 2 года назад
How does a lead batter balance it's charging in series and parallel, and lithium not? It would seem that circuitry (a programmed motherboard) with switches would be necessary if that's the case. But again, how would a lead batter stop charging and pass the voltage down the line to a more-depleted battery? Interesting subject, something I'm not familiar with. But we need some insight to make this a worthy footnote. Cheers.
@rmr4173
@rmr4173 2 года назад
Good Point! that was precisely one of my observations. By experience definitely is very important to fully charge all Lithium batteries first no matter the model. If it is not done, in some untypical cases they start to register a false load readings and shorten their useful life. Unfortunately Lithium pricing will keep increasing.
@CR-iz1od
@CR-iz1od 2 года назад
why wouldn't you fully discharge them, seems faster, safer, easier and more accurate.
@GarthVader78
@GarthVader78 Год назад
@terrycassar I was wondering if its ok for the lithium batteries to be lying on their sides, is that fine for them?
@toboldygo5823
@toboldygo5823 2 года назад
I could tell for you it’s like Christmas every day opening these boxes 📦 🤔🤩🎄
@johnetheriedge8675
@johnetheriedge8675 3 года назад
Mr Johnson, you are showing us this bank of Battleborn batteries, & I did hear you mention Battleborn assisted you with your upgrade. You did not mention that batteries alone are $8,000.00!!
@xani666
@xani666 3 года назад
All that flammable wood about high power electrics make me anxious
@MrSummitville
@MrSummitville 3 года назад
Many / most houses are made of wood ...
@xani666
@xani666 3 года назад
@@MrSummitville Not here, and not relevant to the problem
@MrSummitville
@MrSummitville 3 года назад
@@xani666 What YOUR house is made of irrelevant. Most houses in the USA are made of wood. He lives in the USA. If his $10,000 Battery bank catches on fire, then $100 of wood is the least of his concerns.
@bobwallace7487
@bobwallace7487 Год назад
This is a couple years old, but I’m glad I watched. I’m going to build a home in Costa Rica. Thinking about solar, but not sure if we will be able to operate a couple of ac splits. We get lots of sun, perhaps it is an exercise in MORE POWER! Anyway, I will get expert advice before I proceed. Thank you for the info.
@pierrefenelus3792
@pierrefenelus3792 Год назад
Hey Martin, I am a beginner. i watched for the first time yours videos. This is very helpful. Thank you
@Tessmage_Tessera
@Tessmage_Tessera 3 года назад
Battle Born makes great batteries. What they don't make are great prices.
@trulyshocking
@trulyshocking 3 года назад
$900 per battery is insane, it better to pay per kilowatt
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016 3 года назад
I like individual cells myself. DIY piece it together!
@mrtdiver
@mrtdiver 3 года назад
@@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016 - I hear you. The lithium iron phosphate battery (LFP) are safer than Li-ion, which is probably what your talking about. If you short a Li-ion cell it will vent and can start a fire. So LFP batteries are good in that way.
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016 3 года назад
@@mrtdiver I have the big 200ah 3.2v lfp’s at our off grid overseas.
@abelardoduarte4082
@abelardoduarte4082 3 года назад
@@trulyshocking HA! $949.00 No way Jose.... too much.
@jimmyjones9798
@jimmyjones9798 3 года назад
Got yourself a new sub. I have just started looking into solar power energy and your videos are really informative. Cheers
@Angor6495
@Angor6495 2 года назад
love seeing, how great his symbiosis with these electronics suppliers works out :)
@user-hg2tk3xj9y
@user-hg2tk3xj9y 7 месяцев назад
I wish where I lived this would fly, that was such a good rundown even I have very little confusion, so simply done
@johnkincaide9357
@johnkincaide9357 2 года назад
Martin, a good detailed video! Our company has recycled many types of batteries for over 11 years. 2 suggestions: 1) Lithium-ion batteries come in 5 different types of "chemistries" in positive (cathode). Lithium-ion Ferrous (iron) Phosphate (LFP) is one of them. They are cost (i.e.) negative value to recycle - you have to pay to recycle them. Likely your local scrap yard may not take them at all or charge you to take them. LFP is good chemistry, but this recycling cost needs to be calculated in your overall purchase. Li-ion batteries that have nickel and/or cobalt content in the cathode may limit but be still negative value or fully offset the recycling costs. 2) With all Li-ion batteries, if you limit your discharge to 80% rather than 100% your batteries will last longer. Question, does your inverter and generator have an autostart function, so it the generator will fire up if the batteries hit a certain depth of discharge?
@jackrodgersjr
@jackrodgersjr 2 года назад
You might be able to answer your question by visiting the web site for Battle Born... :)
@commonsensepatriot9450
@commonsensepatriot9450 3 года назад
Ok, not gonna lie, the doll on the shelf freaks me out a little. Lol
@yves2348
@yves2348 3 года назад
You must be an American... It´s a doll... You know, cloth, bit o´ plastic.. some latex foam.. Yeah..doesn´t ring a bell..
@n3uro42
@n3uro42 2 года назад
As a techie, when I got into RC cars, batteries was something I really delved into. Lithium polymer batteries were a HUGE boost over the Nickel Metal Hybrid batteries commonly used as they hold voltage until somewhere around 20% capacity. In contrast to NiMh batteries which start dropping voltage immediately. Lipo batteries are volatile. While they are super lightweight and hold voltage amazingly, they should be charged in special lipo sacks and preferably not in your house. Because after about 500 charge discharge cycles, they poof. And lithium fires are not good. Impacts can reduce that number of cycles, and in RC cars impacts happen a lot. Enter LiFe batteries. Lower voltage per cell than Lipo or increased weight per watt, (about twice as heavy as lipo) but in most ways as stable as nimh and even chargeable the same. (Lipo batteries individual cells in a battery need to be charged at same rate, so cells have to be monitored while charging to make sure that no one cell goes over 4.2V) Which means extra energy cost in charging and increased charge discharge cycles every time you plug in. Hope that helps someone google for more information on their battery mediums :)
@erica8165
@erica8165 Год назад
Having a cutoff switch will prevent the arcing while connecting the terminals. It's bad for the terminals as it will have a weld-like burn that can compromise it.
@mfla1477
@mfla1477 3 года назад
You have a great video going , very informative. I like the fellow who commented on using the resistor poor to making final connection. What I would like if for safety glasses be worn when making final connections. Eye protection cannot be overstated. Especially when living off the grid. Thanks Mike
@moto-rambler
@moto-rambler 3 года назад
Appreciate the upload. My home has been off-grid since the mid 90's. Pretty much seen it all. I'd take your old FLA batteries over those Battle Born units every day of the week. I look forward to your battery updates a year or two from today.
@SH-ni8sh
@SH-ni8sh 2 года назад
Chuck was in the background paying attention too. Wanna play? Lol
@niccolealdrich4890
@niccolealdrich4890 2 года назад
Do you have a video on how things are setup/run inside your cabin? Would love to see it! It would also give a better understanding for those who like to diy but are new to solar battery banks.
@xXTECHxKNIGHTXx
@xXTECHxKNIGHTXx 3 года назад
Dang near spit out my coffee at that price of those batteries. Hopefully new battery technology comes down in prices.
@bryanriggs4417
@bryanriggs4417 3 года назад
There is a new generation 3.2v, that i got it is really a game changer and a little bit cheaper.
@Jutilaje
@Jutilaje 3 года назад
Same dude 😳
@drewd7824
@drewd7824 3 года назад
What’s the cost of batteries?
@Jutilaje
@Jutilaje 3 года назад
@@drewd7824 They're ~$1,000 each.
@bryanriggs4417
@bryanriggs4417 3 года назад
@@Jutilaje So expensive!! I got a set of 4 for 700 bucks delivered to me in 7days.
@mrmotofy
@mrmotofy 3 года назад
Just an FYI the BMV might give you a .2v low reading in some units. There is a little oopsy that happened and the fuse is too small making too much resistance, so needs to be switched out for a 1A. There's info in a search to verify this all.
@chris-vn6sw
@chris-vn6sw 2 года назад
Came across the video by chance. Great run through 👏👏
@llspragulus
@llspragulus 2 года назад
I was watching this just after Halloween and I totally expected that doll behind you to turn it's head and creepy smile.
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving 2 года назад
That would have been so cool.
@props-model-shop
@props-model-shop 3 года назад
Use a Resistor between the cable and the terminal. Hold them together for a couple of seconds. This will discharge the sparking. Then add cable to terminal as per usual....
@props-model-shop
@props-model-shop 3 года назад
@Urbexx Jeremy Yep
@zalleywaalley8227
@zalleywaalley8227 2 года назад
You may already know this, but next time you’re working on that system get rid of that fuse and put in a resettable breaker, and put one closer to your positive battery terminal preferably within 6 inches that way if you have to disconnect and reconnect your batteries, your trip the breaker so that when you’re reconnecting everything you don’t run the risk of Causing an electrical arc. Just a thought nice looking system though
@RonCimo
@RonCimo 2 года назад
Do you have an example of the type of breaker? Maybe a link?
@benjaminschwass5853
@benjaminschwass5853 2 года назад
Great Work Martin - Keep it up!
@amscientific6
@amscientific6 2 месяца назад
This is the Exact Build, I want to do!
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